Rolex Submariner WORSE Than A Blancpain (mostly) ! ADs Getting New Inventory ?

[@mountainhobo]

Perhaps I grew up in unfashionable days when pride and self respect were still considered desirable qualities, but whenever I hear about "establishing a relationship with a salesman" to purchase something, it makes me cringe. If there is a price, and I bring the money, and the salescritter wants me to crawl up his a##, I say f# 'em, there are other fish in the sea.

[@JizzyNinja]

Yo I totally agree, it is so fucking sad to see people talk about AD relationships and the lengths they go. Like taking them out to dinner, thinking it will get you watch😬

[@lonewolfemcquade8133]

Agreed 👍 it's total bullshit. If they think I'm going to do that just to take my money it's not happening. I rather pay after market prices before I stoop to that level but then again I have a Explorer 1 that I got back in 2007. That was nothing like it is today

[@djjr9803]

It all depends on the market. Any (luxury) product that is sold through an independent distributor (ie the AD for Rolex) where demand significantly exceeds supply requires a potential buyer to find ways to become a preferred customer for the seller (ie the distributor). Anything else is delusional. Put yourself in the shoes of the AD. How would YOU decide who to sell the next hot SS Rolex to ? And don't tell me it is "first come first serve".

[@JizzyNinja]

@@djjr9803 I disagree that any luxury product fundamentally means the buyer has to find some way to be preferred. I understand the position of the ADs, but we are talking about mass produced products when it comes to Rolex, not some hand made boots that have a strict production capacity due to the limited folks who can make them. We have second hand dealers showcasing dozens of “limited supply” products at once, I have a hard time seeing this as a pure supply and demand issue and all evil individuals flippers supplying them and not the ADs themselves. I understand the difficult spot ADs are in, however, the luxury shopping experience is having a nice drink while looking at products in a nice space, not taking the fucking salesman out to dinner after you where in a store with nothing in display, in the hopes that eventually they will pull something out the back for you. So I guess there are two sides of luxury now - those who enjoy being treated well as part of the buying experience as they spend their hard earned money on something special, and those who want to eat some salesman asshole for the honor of spending their hard earned cash on a mass produced product. There are so many better options out there in this specific case too, that I’m not necessarily blaming ADs (specifically who aren’t selling to grey market) but rather the sad customers who think it’s luxurious to be treated like shit to be parted with thousands of dollars. It’s just not a luxurious experience.

[@mountainhobo]

@@djjr9803 "where demand significantly exceeds supply" - But herein lies the key. It is all an illusion. It is not a necessity, and it is not even a truly rare, handcrafted item that simply cannot be had in greater quantity. The scarcity is only in the mind of the buyer. It is a spell, a trick. The moment you stop believing in the spell, it disappears.

[@BigDudeSuperstar]

dude, balance of sound in this video is off. I'm getting mostly sound on the Right channel.

[@wolfcommander6009]

😬👍

[@hambone988ubet]

Same

[@atthelord]

For anyone who hasn’t actually seen a Blancpain FF in person, I urge you to actually try on on. I agree, yes, it feels a bit more delicate, but it feels so so good on the wrist!

[@philippm2750]

It's also wears big, at least on my 6.5 inch wrist.

[@gyang333]

That's a good point. Though, now that I think about it, I have never seen a Blancpain AD before. They must be rare.

[@zhaowei3025]

Sorry they are overpriced junk by the Hublot man . A resurrected brand that died for a good reason .

[@tdaveniii]

I tried the Blancpain FF and the Glashutte Sea Q Panorama Date. . . and picked the latter.

[@Rhardebeck]

I have a Blancpain 50 Fathoms and wear it everywhere and even dive with it. I don't feel it's a delicate watch and it's sure the heck accurate with a great power reserve

[@inlandwatchreviews5745]

I have a longines spirit 42 mm with 4 straps . It’s like having 4 watch’s. Stainless bracelet, leather nato , leather dress strap, bark n jack nato .

[@swethabhakthanfanclub4509]

We wanna hear more about the Cartier jlc movement

[@metal4bld]

I’m nuts. It I’m leaning towards a blancpain and just telling people I got it at Walmart or something until someone who actually knows calls me on it.

[@joshblackmun]

I got a Pepsi from my AD at retail a little over a week ago. I also got a Sea Dweller in May 2021 (same AD). I waited 2 years for the Sea Dweller and 3 years for the Pepsi. Went into my AD monthly to visit and talk watches. The Sea Dweller was my 1st purchase. I did buy (2) Panerai’s in between the Sea Dweller and the Pepsi which likely contributed to the Pepsi allocation.

[@ChawnCrawley]

Good job. The machine is pleased with you.

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

@@ChawnCrawley LOL

[@diavalus]

I don’t know about others, but I am not willing to do these things to buy a watch. People are loosing their minds over this.

[@midas1929]

Lubrication might help and make it faster

[@rickyhawkins7407]

I learn so much by watching your post. I’m very new at this but your videos keep me from being taken by unscrupulous sales people, and understanding what they are talking about as far movements and intricacies of different watch makes. Thanks for your efforts.

[@Bemjji]

Rolex quality can trick you because the bracelet is so solid.

[@WrongTimeWatch]

I could totally see wearing my Submariner everyday as my only watch. I would really like to buy a Pepsi GMT from the AD at some point though.

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

Seriously the Pepsi would turn me into a one-watch guy forever.

[@ronmexico6241]

Why? Blu red gmt has been sold for years, why now?

[@WrongTimeWatch]

@@ronmexico6241 I have wanted one for many years now. Finally have the means to buy one, and they are near impossible to get from the AD.

[@Profanity92]

Yes, actually I would like to hear more about the ETA vs Cartier MC. I hope you do another video about it, and feel free to toss in more caliber related content :)

[@michaelvandergrift133]

Inquired about a steel Sub december 2021 and picked it up three weeks ago. First luxury watch, no prior relationship with my AD. What's the big deal? Makes me think the hype about not being able to get a Rolex is bunk.

[@TheBleepHole]

I think it really depends on the market you’re in. For example, an AD in South Dakota probably runs things very differently than an AD in New York.

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

@@TheBleepHole Plus the Sub is not a Pepsi

[@user-iz9co4qf6z]

Hey Frederico I've been using your technique of dressing down my dress watches by using simple straps and it's allowed me to wear them with more casual clothing. Thanks for the idea 💡

[@PhotoDaveJax]

Many complaints about prices for Miami GP. And I agree.

[@mrbud8524]

Love my New Omega Seamaster 300 42m blue dail it's a must have in any watch collection keeps better timing than my Rolex Submariner .

[@ALL-il1sw]

And que the haters in 3, 2, 1

[@kingkongbundy2380]

It really isn't hard to build a relationship with an AD without buying other items first. I got my Subdate in 5 months with no prior purchase history..

[@lukeblankenship8424]

Same. 7 months for me. 2 in person visits, 3 calls and one email.

[@kingkongbundy2380]

@@lukeblankenship8424 Exactly. A few nice visits and conversations, and a few emails. The AD was very nice. The day I picked up the Sub, I expressed my interest in a Pepsi and was advised I "should" hopefully receive a call in 4-6 months. No prior history, the sub was my first Rolex, and the AD was pretty open and honest.

[@ronniep9272]

@@kingkongbundy2380 you lucked out with your AD, most Rolex suppliers want you to have an extensive purchase history to land a submariner.

[@kingkongbundy2380]

@@ronniep9272 That "could" be the case but another local AD that I had also been talking to reached out to me just this past week after 8 months and offered me a submariner date as well. No prior purchase history with them other than having 2 watches serviced with them in the past that I did not even purchase there.

[@ronniep9272]

@@kingkongbundy2380 it really depends on where you live. Here in the UK in the London area they won't even put your name on a list without purchase history. It's the same with AP. I'm after a 15500 Royal Oak but I have no chance.

[@zman8340]

Hey Fed still killing it brother , all that hard work and gains is really starting to show . Chanel has been straight fire 🔥. I’d love to hear more about that 1904 .

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Another great video brother 👏

[@daneschreuders6762]

Hey Fed, definitely keen to hear more about your thoughts on the Cartier movement

[@johncaron4888]

Well, I built a relationship with a watch store / jewelry store (they are ADs for ROLEX and some other high-end brands, by bringing them watches for repair that I bought on the internet, and buying watch straps from them. Also, I am patient, if they are real busy. I leave and come back later. I have been doing this about 7 years.

[@IntellectualTerritory]

The only Blancpain I want is the no rad the story is just to cool. For some reason they do not make this watch in the catalog is bizzare.

[@thijsruiter4407]

Cartier santos has a 1847 mc, not a 1902

[@impexRQ]

Blancpain Fifty Fathoms titanium 🤗🤗

[@NRecob]

I really like the Fifty Fathoms in Titanium with the big date but $17K???

[@dumabalrog]

At a quick glance I read that as "backpain" and was like got damn lol

[@federicopedata2950]

Blancpain is for sure much better than a Rolex

[@watcheswork1217]

We want to hear it!

[@Raph.Bogaert]

Really interested in the story about the jlc reject movement in the Cartier 👌

[@diavalus]

Same, I wish he’d make a video about this asap!

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

Seconded

[@sergebernard]

Yes

[@Giuseppe_est.2008]

Yes please Fed make a video of this JLC movement reject or gently saying second-third tier… thanks and keep it coming Fed.

[@alexanderalwayslate3855]

Fed how confident are you with being able to go into a Rolex AD and be able to buy a watch there and then? That would be great if that is the case?

[@jileel]

Holy shit you've lost alot of weight! Congrats bro!

[@dsvillalva]

Fed you gave more love to the Submariner than I was expecting!

[@eyeheartsushi2212]

I noticed that too

[@WIS7802]

Γεια σου Φρεντερίκο ! Ωραίος !

[@PaxGamingHD]

Where are you from?

[@federicopedata2950]

The Rolex is not bad.. it’s just Better Blancpain.. much better😉

[@mrbubbles6961]

Holy shit! Nice watch Fed!

[@mas3974]

Very informative and relivant channel.

[@thewatchzealot]

Man, Fed. You are looking good, my man.

[@djdeckstar]

The fifty fathoms is too big, there needs to be a standard edition that is 40mm. The mil spec is the perfect size I wish they weren’t just a special edition

[@TheLeeattwood]

Beautiful watch Fed 👍🏻🇬🇧

[@ricklloyd278]

Had my submariner 30 years had it scuba diving swimming never one problem great watch

[@rassf1]

The moment I put the Blancpain 5050 (Fifty Fathoms Titanium Grande Date) on my wrist, I knew there was no comparison. It will be my next watch no doubt. I think it better compares to the Sea Dweller rather than the Submariner but it is head an shoulders better than both in terms of quality, in my opinion. I can see Fed's point about toughness, but remember that ceramic is easier to scratch than sapphire.

[@archiegoodwinjr]

Good points, especially about FF and SD being more comparable. I can believe that the FF's sapphire bezel is more scratch resistent than the SD's ceramic. But the SD's movement is probably as tough as a Timex's. Sadly, as Charlie Munger states (and as I experienced), you can't wear a Rolex for fear to being robbed. For that reason perhaps the FF makes more sense for everyday wear.

[@fallingwickets]

dont leave charleston without a scoop of ice creams from Jeni's. worth every single calorie

[@DBravo29er]

Looking LEAN AND MEAN, Fed! 👍🔥

[@EddyTeetree]

BP for me but as a skin diver and surfer it’s a SEIKO Padi. WTF dives with a $10k watch?!?

[@slimbomania1]

Fed spot on as always - also with the mustache, very nice!

[@dab7963]

I wanted a Pepsi for my soon retirement. Then I learned about the 5x retail and the begging the AD nonsense. Now Rolex is crashing. I hope it drops BELOW retail and then when I ADs call buyers I will tell them i will put them on my list but it could take a year. Also where are all the "dealers" getting the Rolex stock? Clearly from the ADs. It's all about greed. Rolex customers will just start buying other great watches. Rolex will learn a valuable lesson. You can't keep screwing your clients before they grow tired of the BS

[@erich964]

Isn’t it about resale value. The 50 fathom has worse resale value, but if money is no object, the 50 fathoms is the better watch. But most people will buy the Rolex just based on the brand resale value not on the pure Watch versus Watch. The 50 fathoms is just superior and every way. Again it’s always about money. That’s why the Rolex Will get 95% of buyers

[@Treveljan]

Love blancpain, I would buy a current FF in a heartbeat - I would even wear it as my only watch (I think that would be pretty cool :) ). But that engraving on the side... uh. Like an invicta. No thank you.

[@Leftystrat]

No one really sees it buddy but horses for courses

[@RavesForDays]

Ahahahaha. Was just in Miami for Ultra and wondered if Frederico is also a fellow raver! 😂

[@miki55fathoms19]

Well, that topic should not just be brought up for discussion because Blancpain and not just Blancpain, has always, since the beginning of time, been better than this Rolex. By the way, I have as always wondered about one thing, 99.99% of all Watch brand exists (even the most hated brand "Invicta, though I do not understand why) explanation of what the name means, but, what does Rolex mean ?, can, if not you someone on this Planet ?, Greetings.

[@patrickjeter7928]

Quad-lingual but still says "Yay-ger" for JLC. ;) Love your content man! Just giving you a hard time!

[@edwardb7811]

I have a German Swiss friend who calls it Yay-ger.

[@TheSuperGenius]

Blancpain just humiliates Rolex, on most levels.... I feel sad for Tools who actually pay an idiotic premium, only to find out that 99.8% of humans in the "wild" could care less about a coronet on their watch. (and YES we the remaining .2% ALL wonder if that watch "IS" real, that is IF we bother to look at your wrist instead of our smart phone's!)

[@djdeckstar]

How? The standard fifty fathoms is too big. Also no one cares what watch your wearing, why does the brand change that?

[@TheSuperGenius]

The 50F suits me fine. I do have a man sized (7.75 inch) wrist & I don't sit when I pee!

[@Rhardebeck]

So true but the benefit of Rolex is the resale value. I've had Rolex and the accuracy and reserve are better but it's the resale value

[@Jaggedhalo66]

Relationships hu? I’d never buy a donkey hoping to get on the waitlist for a horse. But that’s just me.

[@evangelos12345]

Γεια σου φιλε

[@newgunguy4176]

What to do when you're in love with watches but, are a broke ass like me?🤣

[@RoaroftheTiger]

Fed, Thanks for another round of Sound Advice. :-)

[@singaporewatchcollector6262]

Noticed lots of dealers talk down Rolex and promote other watches because they know Rolex will sell by itself no matter what but other Brands needs sales speech for them to sell. Nothing wrong but no matter what a submariner is still the OG

[@rodris8461]

The only reason Rolex will sell by itself is because of the hype around the new rich who knows squat about watches, but end up buying Rolex because its a label of fortune..that is all!!

[@singaporewatchcollector6262]

@@rodris8461 not true. Without Rolex there is no luxury Swiss watch industry like today. For the same amount of money you buy a SS nautilus you get a full gold Rolex with change which is not only in precious metal, more recognisable and it’s much more durable. Can’t think of a better bang for buck.

[@ALL-il1sw]

@@singaporewatchcollector6262 Rolex? Bang for buck?

[@singaporewatchcollector6262]

@@ALL-il1sw 200 grand usd for a nautilus 5711 SS you can get 2 full gold Daytonas , a panda and a Pepsi.

[@diavalus]

@@singaporewatchcollector6262 gold and durable don’t go along.

[@Andromahlius]

Il va falloir réviser le français ! :D

[@eaustin2006]

Whay happened to the audio? Trainwreck.

[@shadyoptics]

Favorite F1 team?

[@benbill8739]

I really can’t understand all that hype around thé Sub, it’s for me the most overrated Rolex

[@harry-Musk]

Take a look at Triwa, the brand that makes watches from Ocean plastics!! Recently they brought out a watch specialy for Unicef 100% will go to the children from the Ukraine!! Please give this some attention, so when buying this watch 100% goes to Unicef (limited)

[@diavalus]

I really doubt 100% will go for donations as the company wouldn’t sell someone on a 100% loss.

[@harry-Musk]

@@diavalus Ocean Plastic for Ukraine is a 10 piece limited edition watch developed as a statement against the war in Ukraine. 100% of the proceeds are donated to UNICEF to help all Ukrainian children in need. Wear your values. The above is from the website directly!

[@bosullivan5462]

Rolex are so overrated

[@Nefville]

The Fifty Fathoms is like putting square wheels on a Ferrari. I don't know what the hell is going on over at Blancpain but they need to listen to just about everyone and make a non-limited edition 40mm or 41mm or 42mm version. Square wheels on a Ferrari.

[@christophergan71]

What I'll be saying here may be controversial to the watch community and is open to further discussion. I strongly believe that the earth's sustainability agenda should not only be the burden of big players such as Renewable Energy and EV car industries, but that the watch industry can make a huge contribution to greening the planet and lowering its carbon footprint by CEASING the production and sale of battery powered quartz watches. Instead, it should promote heavily the sale of solar / kinetic / mechanical / spring drive movement watches. Similarly, social media influencers can play a significant role by encouraging it's user base to move towards these watch movements instead of promoting quartz watches, no matter how tempting they are in the price point and luxury designs. I say this because the watch industry has a mature technology on these movements especially solar powered watches which can be mass produced to lower the cost further, unlike say the EV car industry currently. Secondly, using battery powered quartz watches requires replacement within 2 years, unlike solar powered batteries which can last up to 2 decades. Ceasing the production of new battery powered watches will significantly reduce landfills in the future unless an effective technology already exists to recycle ALL used batteries completely. Also, batteries used in quartz watches for the short term is akin to using coal to generate energy and carbon fuel for cars. Lastly, it's already bad enough to replace the billions of existing batteries in legacy quartz watches, so let's hope the watch industry will not burden the earth further with new releases of quartz watches! Personally, I haven't been purchasing new quartz watches and am slowly phasing out the use of my legacy quartz watch collections, i.e. I don't replace the batteries in dead quartz watches any more but instead use them as exhibition showpiece purely for their artistic design and aesthetics. Besides, quartz watches are not as fun to wear as alternative movements due to their lack of user interaction which gives a watch a "soul", I digress. Any comments?

[@77Ronin_]

I wear a Submariner and there's no way i would trade with a BlancPain nobody ever heard of 🤣 The Sub looks a lot better too. Plus, i know for experience that my Sub did not have any issues nor i had to service it for the past 10 years, who can say the same about a BlancPain?

[@tdaveniii]

I, on the other hand, would rather wear the watch that doesn't draw attention to itself and that only a connosieur would appreciate.

[@Leftystrat]

Have blancpain ff and the seadweller, blancpain gets more wrist time. People are genuinely interested when making comments about it whereas when I wear the sd the opposite occurs . Strange but true

[@Leftystrat]

Love both

[@ALL-il1sw]

So tell me, do you wait for your car to break down before you service it. Your watch is the same, a service is designed to reduce unnecessary wear which will lead to costly repairs down the track.

[@BFit25]

So one of your criteria is “people have heard of it “? How bout just purchase what YOU like.

[@victorpopescu8891]

Federico you seem to be very set on bashing Rolex in the last few videos... I wonder what the brand did to you.

[@michaels3860]

Fed chose the sub. The world really is upside-down nowadays.

[@FedericoTalksWatches]

no I didnt.

[@LiquidSm0ke]

Anybody struggling to find a Rolex at msrp. Build a relationship with an ad. Visit them monthly and get to know the staff