Feeding America's poor - why food stamps won't go away | Channel 4 News

The USA may be one of the richest and most dynamic economies in the world, but one in six Americans receive help with their grocery bills in the form of food stamps, funded by the federal government. Economics Editor Faisal Islam reports.
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[@randy109]

My younger sister is 54 years old. She has a University degree and has been an accountant for most of her adult Life. Well, at age 48 she became extremely ill with Hepatitis C. While on the "Transplant List" she was SO sick she could hardly use the bathroom without help. So, from College to her illness she made about $50K to $75K as a CPA and now she is on Welfare (Disability) and Food Stamps. She worked hard, paid a lot of taxes and now she is barely hanging on to Life following a successful Liver Treatment last year. Why should she be JUDGED for using her Food Stamps? We shouldn't judge any of those less fortunate than ourselves. How would YOU like to depend on the Government for your next meal?? Judge Not, lest Ye be Judged. There but for the Grace of God go I...

[@carollynch8319]

People don't like to see others get something for nothing. They are too jealous to realize most people with health issues and disabilities would trade anything to be healthy and not need government assistance. I'm just glad it exists because you never no what can happen tomorrow. I'm praying for your sister.

[@yakojjy]

+randy109 Yeah, my mom was a single mother trying to raise 2 boys. We were on food stamps for a year or two just to help.

[@snarky77005]

+randy109 I understand disability. What angers taxpayers are people gaming the system or people that take welfare then do nothing to better themselves or their earning potential. There is way too much of that going on.

[@PsychicsRfake456]

+randy109 Sorry to hear about your sister but keep in mind some people need welfare and some are just bums. I know a woman who has been and welfare for over 10 years now has 2 kids with 2 diff dads, has made no attempt to find a job and better her situation, she would rather drink wine at the bars. and yet tax payers are forced to pay for this. it is welfare bums that give the people who really need it a bad name

[@ellenlee1]

+randy109 YOUR SISTER IS LUCKY TO HAVE YOU. FAMILY IS A BETTER SAFETY NET THAN THE GOVERNMENT. YOU CAN'T DEPEND ON GOVERNMENT. YOU CAN ALWAYS DEPEND ON FAMILY.

[@hughhaefner5486]

A terminal illness caused me to lose everything. House, car, savings. Everything gone. It can happen to anyone. I worked my entire life from 14 years old until 60. Boom! Catastrophe changed everything.

[@carolynwheaton8547]

I think of a positive thing each day my eye sight,hearing.Or I will become depressed.🚶🏻

[@TheRealThickiminaj]

This is so sad. ANYONE who is working a job should be able to afford food and rent without worry.

[@masterpalladin]

time to bring back homesteading

[@wturner777]

But unfortunately in a capitalist society it's not always the case. Right now over 78% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck and one emergency away from being homeless. A lot of people, even most of my relatives, must rely on government assistance just to get by. Now that's sad.

[@SuzanneTegroen]

They can stop taking federal money from us people than

[@spiritanimal7516]

That's how it used to be.

[@RandallHallKaizenReiki]

Two workers doing the same job, one lives alone and the other supports a spouse and six children. How do you equate those two living standards? There is no reason the two employees shouldn't be paid the same.

[@harrystouffer5692]

no one in the world should go hungry! with the waste of food in America it is discussing!

[@ellenlee1]

+Harry Stouffer YOU HAVE FREEDOM IN AMERICA. FOOD IS NOT RATIONED LIKE IN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD. DO THESE AMERICANS HAVE MONEY TO WASTE? EVEN PEOPLE ON FOOD STAMPS.

[@MyCatsChannel841]

So true 😢

[@SpudForceable]

Alot of these people on SNAP already work full time for shit wages. How bout instead of looking to blame the individuals on food stamps, we instead look at the far greater issue of stagnant wages? Of course I don't expect most people to do that, it's far easier to blame the poor than examine the deep structural issue we have in this country that causes tens of millions of Americans to use food stamp.

[@MyPedorro]

+Oh Juliana! And graduate with a 100.000 debt?

[@MyPedorro]

+Salsa23PR Sterilize everyone with an IQ of less than 120. Does this mean you?

[@johndoe-rm7sv]

+SpudForceable or the 10+trillion dollar wars of the last 15 years.republicans love paying taxes to kill people but not feed them.lets not forget prisons ,boy do they love prisons :D

[@princeoforange3813]

john doe we hate prisons, we love the killing of the prisoners though

[@chicnoir29]

Tessie Well for a single healthy person with a well running car it's much easier to work 2-3 jobs and be able to cover all your bills. Now a family with two 40+ adults and one-two young children working 2-3 low wage jobs, see how far that gets you.

[@jordandior3191]

I get SNAP (I refuse to call it "food stamps") in the amount of $192 a month. That works out to only $48 a week for food, even less when there are five weeks in a month. I literally can't afford meat or chicken or fish with that amount, so I decided to go vegetarian. I'm a diabetic so I can't buy cheap carby food. All I buy is eggs, spring mix, veggies, strawberries and a few pantry staples. You CAN eat healthy using SNAP. And I don't feel the least bit ashamed for having SNAP, either. I paid my taxes for 30 years so I'm getting back what was MINE to begin with.

[@dhivchannelglobalentertain8108]

Jordan Dior good for you

[@debbieframpton3857]

Ishop grocery stores mark down meat section and markdown section I eat a salad almost everyday for lunch and that is usually from markdown salad mixes you might check your store for some of these mark down items to help stretch your budget

[@black4vcobra]

They aren't stamps anymore but you are on the dole. You should only be ashamed if you refuse to provide for yourself. If your health or age prevent you from providing for yourself then you are who the program is designed for.

[@kellyrabe5180]

I was on snap after college i was making $8.00 an hour working full time i got $75 a mouth and i was happy to have that

[@Scriptorsilentum]

Type 2 diabetes here. I'm lucky I work full-time as a trucker and don't need snap. That said go to any truck stop whaddya get? Greasy salty hot dogs, salt-stuffed sandwiches with white flour only. Thank gawd my truck has a frigging fridge and microwave. Yer right it's NOT food stamps it's called SNAP for a reason. Good luck.

[@lynndutt2219]

As I read the comments that condemn food stamp users, my heart grows heavy. We're all aware that there is a small portion of the population that abuses the program. This is called the 'cost of doing business;. A nation is responsible for their poor. Without food death is soon to follow. This is not acceptable to me. I'd rather my tax contributions go to feed the hungry than to pay for wars and crooked governments. Judge not, least thee be judged. A very famous man spoke those words when he walked the earth.

[@MrCWilliams1982]

Lynn Dutt Amen!

[@RavensCatnip]

Lynn Dutt...Amen!

[@wendyellis3738]

Lynn Dutt really cant say why I know this but there r a hugh population abusing the system

[@TG021873]

Being stupid isn't a excuse to get a handout,.

[@mstoni269]

I agree. These replies are so cold hearted. People are poor, no matter how hard they work, in this country. It's amazing how stupid some people are. You allow corporate welfare, tax breaks for the rich etc but won't vote for your neighbors to eat? The opioids are really working!

[@markbrown5117]

THis woman with red hair is correct. People judge you and they might need FS themselves in the future.

[@faithrada]

The Universe does have a way of humbling the overly proud. Things are often not how they appear.... so ... yes, judge NOT.

[@quents]

but she wanted ice cream that day boohoo lolxxx

[@bb.w7450]

Good ...go to work ,they got day care ..use it..

[@johnjohnson9358]

If you want "ice cream" pay for it using your own money... Using EBT to pay for it is abuse of the system.

[@wise4124]

Who care if someone judge me spend my food stamps

[@pedroperez236]

No shame in the game be helpful to people in need

[@seecanon5840]

In 2015 when I did our taxes, we made $115,000. my husband was laid off because the company was bought by another company. He was 56 and couldn't find a job in 2015 or 2016 that paid what he made at his old job. Unemployment ran out, no health insurance and we applied for SNAP. We get $283. a month. I used to spend that much on eating out a month. We buy meat mostly and some fresh veg then go to a pantry to fill out the rest of the meals with potatoes, canned stuff and sometimes bread. Meat is important as well as the almond milk I drink, lactose intolerant. I've returned to making from scratch and actually eat better than I did when I ate out. Go figure. It's the humiliation of using them. If we didn't need them, I would say give them to someone who needs them. Now, I'm the someone who needs them.

[@Eric345]

See Canon Why didn’t you guys save and invest? Idiots!

[@fmartin59]

@@Eric345 STFU. You don't know their situation.

[@debbiesullivana1795]

Food stamps are a great help. I don't get $200.00 a month but what I do get I'm greateful for them. I still have to shop for groceies so by the the time stamps come in, my shopping is done. The stamps go for milk, bread, vegetables and articles I need until I get my check. Thereare people who sell their stamps immediatly when they get them. These are the people who need to be moinitered not people who buy food with them. One thing about Food Stamps is they should take into consideration, the elderly, people with medical conditions such as diabetics, cancer patients. Food stamps keep a lot of people from going hungry. So what if a mother buys her kid an ice cream. Does anyonr know how many people sell food stamps to buy drug?

[@smug8567]

You know those were my mother's dying words, but when your covered in 3rd degree burns, and one foots caught in a bear trap your gonna start talking crazy.

[@caryn9561]

The farmer's markets don't except them

[@timothyharrison5338]

Debbie Sullivan A I'm a disabled veteran and I get 200 a month and it's the only reason I can eat!! Before food stamps I was dumpster diving for meals!

[@timothyharrison5338]

claire bigelow I'm a disabled veteran and I get food stamps , never used them to buy drugs! I like eating to much!!

[@caryn9561]

@claire bigelow How do you buy drugs with a card?

[@GeckoHiker]

I'm in the US, retired to a rural area of the country. There is a sharp divide between four classes of people where I live. There are university and medical professional workers who would never look down on somebody using SNAP benefits. There are the skilled trade workers who do look down on them, and I've heard some pretty bad diatribes in grocery store lines. There are the working poor who are on some level of SNAP, and some level of disabled and seniors who qualify for SNAP because of their income, then there are those who are chronically unemployed and are professionally on welfare, for Section 8, food stamps, and AFDC. I'd say that 99% of the people in my area who are receiving any benefits are white. There are no manufacturing jobs in this area. Ranching is big, but you have to own the land to be successful at it. There are many business people who prey on everybody else, but I've never heard any complain about SNAP recipients. There's just nothing here to build an economy on unless somebody else is paying for it. That's the sad truth about the state of the union.

[@kadensmike8190]

Thank you for giving an intelligent explanation of what life is like for you living in the USA. I do wonder why more Americans do not support a higher minimum wage. It seems as though big businesses could pay their staff more - they make huge profits...

[@dianerose7631]

Yeah my country usa is a joke 😂

[@maryannknox7158]

Living in poverty should not be embarrassing I was a Nurse all my adult life I Refuse to be embarrassed 😳

[@terryrattler5855]

Trump want to cut food for good he can't do that at all

[@BeyondChange]

8 Years later and times are now tougher. It's getting tougher every Year.

[@scoreanarrangement6635]

Every time I watch this I always feel sad for the young woman who just wants to treat herself to some ice cream every now and then.

[@laurieannyandabyrd5402]

Welfare, is for the poor...not those that want to be comfortable. IF your NOT a citizen NO you should not get any assistance.

[@DjSpeccs]

Laurie Ann Yanda Byrd you mean you’re, learn correct English before you talk about being a citizen!

[@rbear4574]

@yes man I was in the workforce for 60 years and I can't even get SNAP to help buy food. I make do with I get. There are so many seniors who can't make it from month to month on SS. But yet you see young people who can work a 40 hr job using SNAP just so they don't have to work as hard. I would go back to a full time job or even part if I could but with a bad heart I'm lucky if I could do more then 3 or 4 hr per day.

[@johnschramm1880]

This SHOULD be common sense.

[@likehellweareanxiouslywaiting]

🙏🏻👍🏻

[@szqsk8]

Not everyone in this massive country will, or ever will have high-paying jobs, that's not reality. Before the Recession my 60 year old husband made a good living till his company split the state in 2008. Then we went bankrupt then lost our house in 2012. I had to go on Food Stamps for the first time in my adult life at age 52 in 2010. When I went to apply I expected to see a room full of really destitute looking people in tattered clothing but everyone in there looked like me. All ex-middle class folks who never thought in their wildest dreams they'd be on assistance. I used the EBT card for 1 year then stopped then switched to recycling money and change to buy groceries. EBT was nice to have temporarily but not forever. I couldn't take that. My husband finally found work this year (2015) after seven years of searching (50% pay cut) so now we're digging ourselves out w/$4OK in debt to still pay off. That's the new economy.

[@FMHammyJ]

+szqsk8 I am happy to hear that your luck has changed for the better. My parents were children of the Depression, and always told me there would be another one......I used to laugh thinking that while there might be downturns....prosperity would last forever....how wrong I was....things may not be as tough as the thirties, but it's as you say...."the new economy"...

[@ellenlee1]

+szqsk8 can you please educate me. what is recycling money and change to buy groceries? you spend the money and it comes back to you. its recycled. ???????

[@szqsk8]

+hoover lee Recycling money = money (not a lot) you get for taking empty plastic water bottles and soda cans to the recycling centers all over town. I was digging plastic bottles and aluminum soda cans out of the neighbors trash, the gas station trash, basically any trash can I could find with recyclables in it. Buying groceries (and gasoline) with change = using only coins instead of dollars which sux. We had a little cardboard box we would put the coins we got in change and we literally lived off quarters for a couple of years. It's the pits going to the gas station every other day to put $1.00 worth of gas in your car.

[@ellenlee1]

+szqsk8 thanks, i would never know you could collect that many cans and bottles to pay for all your food. must be a lot of work. i would rather take a job. any job than look for cans. people can do anything to survive. she gave up her ebt card and looked for cans.wow!

[@szqsk8]

+hoover lee I was collecting cans/bottles because there WEREN'T any jobs. I'd rather have been working in an office than digging through the trash. The unemployment rate was 15% in California at the time. The can money was enough to put a gallon of gas in the car, groceries (thank God for Trader Joes). Not a way of living I recommend. I was homeless at 52 after owning homes all my married life and never thought I'd be. I work part time in a surgeon's office (I got the job because I knew someone who knew someone) and I can't believe how many older/elderly patients we have who are homeless.

[@maryannknox7158]

There is Extreme poverty in America

[@randy95023]

As an addendum to my prior comment, I'd like to add that people that DO Work and don't make enough to feed their family, then God Bless them. Give them enough to 'fill the gap'. I respect all Labor. Just because I earn triple the minimum wage doesn't mean a person working for the minimum wage doesn't work just as hard, or harder than I do. In the USA today being educated AND willing to work doesn't mean you will ever get that Dream Job. If a person is unable to work then this country is plenty rich to feed them well. We live in a "dog eat dog" capitalist society and musn't forget the "dogs" that are eaten while glorifying the success stories.

[@megahappy2bemeIntheStarz]

and that poor dog might actually save the fat cat's life one day say with a blood transfusion, from the only available match or if the poor kid had an education maybe that poor person could find the cure for a disease the fat cat has. If the GOP and any of the like minded continue to think only in self-centered dog eat dog terms than consider what I've stated. Leonardo Da Vinci was born poor to a single unwed mother too.

[@Scriptorsilentum]

Federalist society types would say "Starve." Bastards.

[@adamantium2012]

If I were given only $200 for food to spend per month or $6.70/day, I could easily make that work. The pre-packaged foods are mostly junk, stay away from them. Buy large packs of lean protein like ham, chicken, or beef, marinate them if needed, freeze them, and make rice dishes, sandwiches, breakfast burritos. Add lots of salad or steamed vegetables as sides. I personally make vegetable/nuts/fruit/protein smoothies to get the nutrient I need regardless of what I'm eating. Bunch of kale or spinach costs $2, get bags of nuts (pricey but lasts months), seeds (cheap and goes a long way), and bananas are only $2 for a whole bunch. Add some protein powder and milk and you've got yourself a super nutritious shake for maybe 50 cents per serving. Being creative and not eating microwave food will not only stretch the food budget but make you healthier and more productive.

[@dcg590]

Most people are too lazy to cook. They buy tons of garbage with their free money and are overweight and the kids have adult health issues before their in their teens costing tax payers even more money for their medical treatment. I don’t blame the kids. They have no choice. Lazy parents are to blame

[@patriciafaure3150]

I don't go around trying to find out what people eat, drink , sleep or what they buy their food with I could care less. At least I do know they have food nor do I mistreat people because they are in need of help .I simply hope for the Best for everyone.Thank you

[@thekeyboardess1150]

I tell you what : $7/hour work (minimum wage) is just RIDICULOUS. This is not a decent wage, it's a poverty time-bomb. No wonder so many hard-working Americans depend on foodstamps.

[@corymodzeleski7191]

I've been on and off food stamps (mostly on) since I was 18 and I'm 30 now. My mental health disabilities make it difficult for me to really make too much money.

[@danclark1348]

Malnutrition causes obesity. Why so many hungry children have large bellies. My weight going up because of eating cheap food. That will cause more walking difficulties for me.

[@jerilynbridges1740]

When I see folks on food stamps, I don’t blame the folks getting the stamps, I blame the low wage companies that leach off those paying a decent wage! I see no reason to pay for a company who says that they are going to start using robots! I certainly wouldn’t shop there!

[@scar3xcr0]

Numerous studies by our government and NGOs have shown that food stamps are one of the best ways to get people out of poverty and have numerous other benifits. They act as a trickle up economic stimulus, unlike tax breaks to the wealthy that often are sent to overseas accounts, spent on forign goods, or just saved. With food stamps the majority are spent every month. At this point the money passes to the retail busineses that sold the products, many of which are small businesses. These businesses reinvest the money in more products to replace the ones food stamps bought, improvements to the store and increased employee hours. Many large corperations benefit as well most notably walmart who is one of the biggest advocates for the food stamp program because it is such a large contributing factor to their sucsess. Most food sold here is made in the usa so food product manufacturers also benefit from the program. That food has to be grown by some one and most food on our shelves was grown here so the money trickles to the famers who use it to reinvest in their farms and improve their conditions. Far more money is given out to farms as subsidies than as food stamps. But the rich are the real welfare queens. The govt only charges $5 an acre per year to many mine companies and they can take anything they find. Military hardware is often bought at prices that are ludicrously high becuase of the connections and crooked dealing between government officials and the arms industry. Everyone still remembers when they bailed out the banks with billions of dollars because they were "too big to fail" and then they executives who screwed the pooch and caused a recession gave themselves bonuses. The govt gives out far more handouts to the wealthy and to corperations that made corrupt under the table deals and are screwing the American public to this day. You realize food stamps are good if you actually understand and appreciate capitalism.

[@loorawlzthomas4889]

Thank you! Something worth reading scar3xcr0 you get it. Everybody that's all knowing needs to read this.

[@ssssaa2]

You literally don't pay income tax if you are below middle class. I used to make 15k a year, got more money back from the federal government than I paid in.

[@danilasad]

The 'so-called' American dream became a nightmare! : (

[@joevillaflores1298]

You can't punish people because they are poor... nor take away something that help them because someone is using it in a negative way. Why do people rely on food stamps....? its because you rather invest to companies than to your people.

[@johnschramm1880]

Can't feed em, don't breed em.

[@maryannknox7158]

Without food stamps I wouldn’t eat at all

[@autumnsangria]

Keep judging other folks, and see where it gets you. It's real easy to put people down sitting behind a computer screen. If they use three to five dollars for ice cream, so the fuck what!

[@autumnsangria]

I'm not stopping you from buying ice cream! Guess what?! You don't get to be the morality police! If all you can concentrate on is five dollars on ice cream. Then you might try, oh I don't know, getting a life!

[@theuglykwan]

The Sheeper If they splurge on something it leaves them short elsewhere. They could buy steak and lobster and then starve. Instead of judging them I'd say the ensuing hunger at the end of the month will be a greater punishment.

[@maryshaffer413]

I'm taking them as long as there there and I qualify. When I worked and made over the limit it never occurred to me to watch others spending them in front of me and grumble about my taxes being spent. It's billions even trillions being wasted on military industry but only a small percent on trillion dollar budget in 2015 being spent on food. I rather buy an Apple than a bullet.

[@heyitsablackguy9553]

I'm tired of flipping the bill for the military industry!

[@Reddeadrobin1]

I know this video is older but not much seems to have changed. I worked all my life. Single mom, two girls, now in college. Didn't use food stamps. Now I have been declared disabled by my doctors and I am on disability. I can no longer work hard to do it alone and my state will not help me. I do not qualify because I refuse to lie on my application like so many others do. I LITERALLY, LITERALLY eat peanut butter sandwiches twice a day with a glass of chocolate milk. The other meal is usually a different sandwich or cereal. The only problem I have locally with someone on food stamps is when after they pay for their food with the EBT, they pull out an inch thick piece of $100's and pay for the tequila, cigs and 20 more t-bone steaks. That is where the stigma comes from. Oh and they walk out in their brand new shoes to a brand new car. That's what's wrong. The government needs to work smarter and help the right PEOPLE.

[@kimwright6377]

Our country is dumb.Why would we as taxpayers and our government create something that you don’t expect people to need and use?(food stamps)?And when people use them you put them in a category and make it a negative thing.smh

[@victoriabardsley8097]

With the costs of so many things like food and housing getting higher and higher, and with fewer jobs paying a wage people can live on, it's no wonder more people are using food stamps, WIC, SNAP and food banks.

[@_.devll.je0]

I work to take care of my daughter and sometimes there just isn't enough money coming in. My daughter needs electricity in the house.. She needs a roof over her head she needs clothes and pampers so if I can get assistance helping out with food why not.. People talk bout People using snap but I use snap and I work to pay my bills sometimes you just need a little help.

[@GIitchclan12]

+Cierra Thompson Yeah, but don't think that you deserve it or that its something to stay on for an extended amount of time.

[@johnreed4388]

are you getting child support from the biological father? I am not against food stamps and helping people but it is not meant to be a long term solution.

[@MC-bd5ub]

Don't have kids then if you can't afford everything for them. Simple concept.

[@wendyellis3738]

Cierra Thompson Does the fathere pay child support?

[@wendyellis3738]

Mark Chavez ...ohhh how true love this comment

[@rogueuniversities6866]

Regarding the lady who said about ice cream - it's important for people to live, not simply exist. A bit of ice cream every so often can help lift someone's mood and is particularly important for some people if their day has been awful. Think of it like a cheap medicine, used in moderation.

[@paulod27]

When are people going to start realizing that capitalism is corrupt and rotten. People are suffering.

[@ellenlee1]

+no hassle be a socialist and everyone suffers equally.

[@ssssaa2]

capitalism is fine, you can do both social spending and a capitalist economy. Most countries do.

[@muzikismylife2913]

As long as we get paid minimum wage that hasn't gone up in years and the mortgage rates keep going up, the ppl are going to need help. It's another way to keep the poor down. We need to think of the children that are being made to suffer.

[@ssssaa2]

Don't work for minimum wage... those jobs are intended for teenagers and people who just want something to do part time that isn't really much work. If a company makes you do more for minimum wage, then quit and get a job somewhere that doesn't.

[@wturner777]

@@ssssaa2 I agree. Nobody is forcing anyone to work for minimum wage.

[@carlgharis7948]

@@ssssaa2 are you STUPID. You go get anouther job tomorrow. We need to STOP exploiting people for cheap labor.

[@carlgharis7948]

@@wturner777 let's stop exploiting people for cheap labor.

[@ssssaa2]

@@carlgharis7948 I am not talking about political stances or laws here, I'm just saying as a person to another person that working for minimum wage long term is a terrible idea and there are tons of ways to make more in the USA. We can't change the laws, but we can change our actions. I'm not against political change but that doesn't mean it is going to happen, it might not, doing nothing and assuming some law will improve your situation is stupid when it might not happen.

[@allenshinn3407]

I got food stamps an ebt card in 2015 and this year too. I lost my job this year in 2018. I never misused my foodstamp card. 192 dollars a month in foodstamps now. My dad i live with gets 335 a month in foodstamps, and he retired around 1998. In 2002 my dad got foodstamps and still does and has too, or else we will go hungry.

[@billbo1852]

How come all the stampers are fat with cars

[@carlgharis7948]

Fat because junk food is cheap. Healthy food is expressive. People are often car poor because lack of public transportation anouther issue we need to fix

[@jackchorn]

Its interesting that large companies like Walmart encourage their employees to get on food stamps. Walmart does not offer a discount on their food to employees. It seems to me that if the Government (the citizens) are asked to make this effort to feed the population- that the major Food companies and large grociers should also bare a little burdon. Instead they are they themselves are making large profits off food stamps. Why would we not make a erminent coupon- a percent by oth large Food ompanies and Large Chain stores? This could be 10% of the total-which would be a big difference on $200.00 a month.

[@carlgharis7948]

EXACTLY places as such need to stop exploiting cheap labor

[@vickysparks7011]

When I think of people like my family...living just like this...it makes me SO ANGRY to think that our government is doing everything it can to support immigrants and giving aid to every other country out there with their hands out. Not to mention veterans and our military. And don't even try to tell me that immigrants get nothing...because a "Latino" woman can come to the US illegally...pop out a baby...have the bill paid by Soonercare...then get WIC...food stamps...low income housing...the kids go to school free...and the whole time the boyfriend or husband is working for cash...and these people are living better than myself and other people in these documentaries. Illegal immigrants AND legal immigrants have bankrupted our social services and our school system. When will it end ? When will our government help it's own people living in poverty ??? When is enough...enough ??? When do they stop and say...wait a minute...we cannot help you until we help ourselves ??

[@bs4real]

You ARE aware of the fact that alot of those immigrants you hate are children WHO WERE DRAGGED HERE AND HAD ZERO CHOICE IN THE MATTER?!!!

[@bs4real]

Clearly you know nothing about immigration here in America.LEGAL immigrants have EVERY GODAMMNED RIGHT TOget help as they've paid taxes into the system!!! So blame somebody else for YOUR poverty!!!

[@bleuskye8124]

Not to be rude but people need to learn how to shop. Spend your food stamps wisely. Rice, beans cheaper cuts of meat, potatoes. Buy store brand. There are many ways to making your food last longer . Education is the key.

[@David-so9ct]

Its sad to see people so ashamed just because they don't want to starve.

[@joannehuangjy]

maybe americans should stop buying junk food and start saving that money to fill in last week

[@DanielBMaximoff]

The person behind me in line can say whatever he/she wants, it's going into my system not theirs.

[@Eric345]

Daniel J Maximoff People like you ruin the economy. How about you get a job that pays for your food. Instead of relying on taxpayers!

[@ravenratz1182]

@@Eric345 how about you just mind your own business?

[@samtheobald4011]

Food stamp make people lazyno want to work because they have free foodPoor people OK not far lazy people👨🏽‍🦳👨🏽‍🦳. O k

[@DanielBMaximoff]

@@Eric345 Buddy, someone like you have absolutely no clue what those two concepts are.

[@Eric345]

Daniel J Maximoff What capitalism? I know everything about it. Is not a perfect system, but it’s the only one that works best in practice.

[@anniebattholomew9430]

It’s pretty sad that these people are not getting enough to put food on the table to feed their families. They deserve more because they work hard for their money.

[@cljoe35]

2:13 beautiful sad lady.

[@aminlion4092]

this gold card is not bad from the government

[@a.citizen7668]

People who need food stamps should get them. No one should go starving in our rich country, especially people who paid taxes for years before some downturn in the economy or illness affected them financially.

[@louiswoodardjr2038]

A. Citizen + Amen To That 🗽🇺🇸🗽🇺🇸🙏🏾

[@casperblackcat1975]

A lot of people who are on food stamps actually do work but they don't earn enough to fully support themselves & someone can be working 2 or 3 jobs & they still need help.

[@Aussie1961]

all food stamp money should be for American only produce, trump should make this law, America needs jobs and plenty of them...…..

[@faithrada]

Greed is going to be America's downfall. Capitalism COULD Work.. ** IF ** those who controlled the economy were Compassionate and Honest. However, when approx. 10 human Beings control OVER half the world's wealth... SOMETHING is VERY VERY WRONG. As a species HUMANS have FAILED.

[@thorthunder3227]

You get 16 cans total of food for four people for three months in Tennessee.

[@natw5040]

This is America

[@leathledood221]

the problem that is happening is that people are becoming extremely dependant on the government. and that is what the government wants. if its populace is dependent on the government, then the government can force us to do whatever the government wants. and thats the road were going down here people.

[@AdmiralBison]

well it would help if the financial and economic system wasn't so geared and pushed by politics to favor major stake holders, mega corporations and the 1% that more jobs with livable wages (and the continuing fight to increase the minimum wage), social, financial and health benefits for the working middle class it would make them more independent of government. There is also this perceived growing culture that people would rather mooch and get free handouts instead of working is over blown -especially with the likes of Fox news and Republican Conservatives pandering to corporations. most of these people would rather be able to have good food, a good paying job instead of having scrounge and eek their way. being poor, living on food stamps is not so easy sailing A lot of these people were lower middle class treading in water and have been made redundant with mounting debt, they are just slowly sinking. It's not that unfeasible either that a lot of posters here on You tube can become homeless or are living like these folks. Heck I lived like that for a while leaning on welfare benefits to support me a few years before things started getting stable and I'm just working contract in IT.

[@Mandragara]

The problem is mass deregulation and the free flow of currency in and out of your country. When you let the rich run the show, this is what happens.

[@AdmiralBison]

***** and who is going to regulate the economy? Like I mentioned the financial system is geared towards the rich major stake holders have the power to lobby congress on a whole matter of financial issues. nothing wrong with free flowing currency. it's the basic economic model of the money wheel. it is how it's manipulated that's the issue. no doubt there is a debate about increasing the minimum wage being argued by Democrats but Republicans are against such a proposal, while McDonald's raked in 4 billion in PROFITS the year before - so a lot of the large companies can't plead poverty when it comes to paying the proposed minimum wage increase. Also the United States stands to prosper from refined gas extraction in Alaska, but I doubt the wealth of this will be distributed fairly.

[@Mandragara]

Duane Locsin Government needs to regulate more. Free flow of currency means all your businesses go overseas where the labour is cheapest, people just game the system.

[@AdmiralBison]

***** that depends on who is going to regulate it. There is the issue where a lot of big companies are doing a tax loop hole called 'inversion' where they establish their headquarters outside of the country to like for example Ireland (in the case of Apple) as to avoid paying the company tax levels in the United States while still benefiting from being an established US company. there is an estimated $2 trillion dollars in lost money into the US economy with these "foreign" owned companies. Of course they are going to game the system but it is higher then that because it is also a political issue. The current Democrat administration are trying to close this loop hole, but Republicans are adamant on fighting it. D-increasing minimum wage- R- against it D-more government reg. wall st./banks R- claim it is over reach D- push for affordable health care act - R- say it is a socialist movement but do not provide a solution to mounting health care cost for the lower class D- push for more skills for the Science and Mathematics - R- big proponents of privatization of schools and dumbing down Maths and Science

[@ludwigvanbeethoven5005]

Whatever happens there in the US will eventually be imported here into the UK (or the UK of A if you prefer), so I find this news item quite disturbing since it is a form of social branding. America is one of the richest Countries in the World and yet 50 million people are dependent on food stamps. The point is this - there is absolutely no need for poverty whatsoever. I know of a way to solve the poverty problem. Identify those areas within the jobs market where there are known skill shortages and retrain all unemployed people with all the latest and most needed skills (while paying them a decent living wage at the same time of course). You might ask yourself why politicians don't do that already? Well it's because they would much rather waste taxpayers money propping up tyrannical political regimes in foreign lands or wasting billions of dollars (pounds) trying to conquer the World in the form of unnecessary pointless wars - that is the reason - Corporate Fascist interests come first before the welfare of the people.

[@americanIDOLfan11111]

Or just do what America did from 1850 to 1912, which was it's most prosperous time.

[@ludwigvanbeethoven5005]

***** Same thing happened here in the UK under Thatcher's Tory Government of the 1980's. Reagan & Thatcher were united in their hatred of all things Socialist, and because of this our respective Countries moved further away from Social Democracy, and more towards the policies of the far right and Social Darwinism.

[@ludwigvanbeethoven5005]

***** Well I totally agree with you - 100%.

[@ludwigvanbeethoven5005]

***** I have a much better idea. Give all the unemployed £100,000 pounds each and ask them which part of Scandinavia they would like to start their new life in. With that sort of cash we could make new lives for ourselves in an egalitarian Social Democracy like Finland or Iceland - and be rid of fascist Tories like Smith forever.

[@dcg590]

They don’t do that for a number of reasons. One being the people don’t want to work Another being keeping them poor is easier to control them

[@thorthunder3227]

In Tennessee you get 269 dollars for a family of three with income of 949 dollars each month.

[@terrybrady8588]

Mostly the people using the cards DON"T look hungry.

[@Demomar86]

Wtf.. I work for my food

[@Dakotaangel1]

Would much rather my taxes help feed people over waging war on the rest of the world. That being said if fast food corps and Walmart etc would pay a living wage and health care was made universal, the whole food need might be lessened

[@elviaknoll4705]

Channel 4 News - can you please UPDATE this file with information about where we are at NOW in 2020? or make a new video?

[@wayneerickson4366]

snap benifits can also be used to buy garden tools and seeds I wonder what % is used thst way?

[@cierraaaaaaaas]

capitalism at its finest

[@snapenightmare7030]

because communism is so great right?

[@cierraaaaaaaas]

Snape WorstNightmare youre the one who mentioned communism not me

[@VCYT]

No, but only slightly worse it seems these days.

[@tunbadly]

You mean mercantile capitalist (credit, interest) and industrial capitalist (poor provides raw labour while the rich delivers the goods).

[@kelleyjerred8032]

I have owned my own business as a single mom from a poor family plus work a weekend job $7.50 an hour I see so many times people who get welfare quit their jobs all the time or show up late, I'm sorry work 7 days a week and you will be making more money.

[@VintageEntertainment606]

The will cut your food stamps, increase your rent, and stop your medical benefits for a $1 above minimum wage.

[@user-qu8qg6ti8g]

More money has to go to food , medicare , education in all countries including the U.S. less money on weapons and more on people and children.

[@judithnizigama7141]

we are together to feeding people need we are a part of that kind of job. and together we change live for many people in the world I thank God for this Amazing work. thank you so much. Judith Nizigama Canada.

[@sickdeckster3677]

how are people fat while only using food stamps?

[@johndoe-rm7sv]

+BadBeat69 u can buy a lot of junk food for 200 a month lol try eating healthy tho.not easy

[@yakojjy]

+BadBeat69 The average money people get for foodstamps is roughly 2 dollars per meal. Less than 6 dollars a day. If you are that poor you're not going to be buying lean meat and fresh vegetables. You're going be eating the only thing you can afford, ie fast food, little debbie, Hostess, frozen food, and all the other inexpensive unhealthy food. Really isn't that hard to figure out.

[@cierraaaaaaaas]

because of the type of food poor people eat. you can eat crap and save $$ instead of eating better. carbs fill you up more than vegetables.

[@kwatlington1]

+BadBeat69 I ask the same question. They must sleep all day and eat all night.If the government stopped this fuckery..... I bet that fat guy would be thinner because he had to mow a lawn or two for money. He just watches tv with his mommy all day

[@musicmakesyoustrong]

People on food stamps should only be allowed to buy cheap HEALTHY foods that fill them up so they don't starve. For example beans and lentils which are super nutritions and cheap. The government shouldn't pay for white break and cookies, that's insane. Cookies are not needed for survival, they are luxury.

[@terryankevmiller470]

What amazes me is that it's okay to give a bunch of rich people two trillion dollars but it's a problem for most people to see people getting $100 or $200 is per month on food stamp..... Something is wrong with this picture

[@anneshirleyduncan]

The majority of people that are on food stamps are very hard workers! Some of them are working two and three jobs just to make ends meet. Because it's very hard to find full time jobs in some places. That lady is right people do judge people that get food stamps. In my hometown I know of four companies that shut down without giving their employees a notice. One company's employees were told at 8 am that the company is closing for good a 4 pm. Two companies just left a note on their door saying that they were closed for good. Their employees didn't find out until they went to work that day. That they no longer had a job. The last company (a local pharmacy) had been in business for 30 years or more. The owners sold the company to Walgreens. They didn't tell their employees either. These are just a few examples of how people end up needing food stamps. Not everyone is lazy or trying to get over on the system. They need our compassion and understanding not our judgment.

[@joejudge8276]

These people aren't the primary beneficiaries, their employers are. Corporations, the elite, are the biggest welfare loafers going. Low wages mean more profits for the company. The usual argument is that Mom&Pop shops can't afford to pay a living wage. Granted. But Multibillion dollar international manufacturers, retailers , and food corporations certainly can. Meanwhile the rest of us foot the bill. And not just for food. Lack of health insurance sends them to emergency rooms. They can't pay, so the middle class does in higher costs. And what are the social costs of latchkey kids left on their own because both parents have to work? We judge the working poor for using EBTs but are outraged at the suggestion that the rich pay their fair share. We have become so warped that we actually believe the problem in America is that the poor have too much money while the rich don't have enough.

[@33rdmusic64]

Ronald Reagan made it a stigma.... good ol' trickle down republicans politics.....nice

[@koko-ib3yq]

Yeah people judge you because you buy soda,ice cream,sweets, and cakes with it.... If you are on food stamps...you don't need deserts or sweets...

[@Jovanna3313]

If i was getting foodstamps. I would buy alot meats, rice, etc.

[@acajudi100]

Happy at 76, I can still afford to support myself.

[@shelleydunfee7189]

My big fat neighbor who is on welfare and unemployed just announced she's pregnant. This makes 5. The other 1 just had her 3rd. There's your problem,baby machines and dead beat dads.

[@hoodman420]

food stamps/ebt is not ment to pay for all of your food needs, it is a supplement of food. this is made so those who are on it will at least try to get off it. those who complain about its not enough should try harder to get off of the system. they won't feel as if people look down on them or that they are taking a handout. i am a single father of 1 and make just above the limit to receive these benefits( had to look up the cut off line to make sure about this first before i commented )and i have never applied nor will i ever try. i will work harder or more to find a way to keep off this, also i do not get any child support so you know. i am considered low income by my state and county and i live within my means. i have nice things i saved for and take care and pride in what i have and instill this in my son.

[@johndoe-rm7sv]

+hoodmobbin the people judging them dont care if they work hard.also how do u improve your economic standing if your hungry.i hope u do apply if u ever really need it,u have a kid

[@carollynch8319]

I noticed that the most harsh critics usually don't qualify for welfare. Instead of being jealous that you don't qualify be thankful that you don't need it and stop criticizing those who do.

[@carollynch8319]

+jfsfrnd read it again.

[@ellenlee1]

+Carol Lynch WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PERSON THAT MISS THE CUT OFF BY $1 DOLLAR. SHOULD HE LOOSE THAT $1 DOLLAR TO GET $200 DOLLARS WITH A GOLD CARD? EVERY ONE WANTS FREE MONEY. HE WORKED. MADE $I TO MUCH. WHO CAME UP WITH WHO QUALIFIES. WHY NOT JUST GIVE EVERYONE $200 DOLLARS SO EVERYONE CAN EAT BETTER.

[@ellenlee1]

+jfsfrnd not free money than give me free food. money don't grow on trees most people have to work for it. we're all slaves to money. even donald trump.

[@rbear4574]

1easy way to stop people from selling their food stamps use a picture ID on every card.

[@lourdesabreu4537]

The problem is spouses who share a card or mom to send kids to run errands with the card it's a good idea in theory but it's not exactly good in practice

[@coolmotion1199]

As long as it is given to Americans that in need.

[@1212matt]

Want to taste crab legs? get a food stamp card, that is the only way to afford such a luxury....

[@jejune40]

After free rent, utilities, healthcare, childcare food and money, what incentive is there to work. Count all that together and they are raking in $60,000 a year. They'd be fools to work.

[@AdmiralBison]

the benefits do not offset the costs of daily living and a lot of these people were lower middle class, yes with children schooling , mortgages or rent, bills and loans. Welfare is not glamorous and in no ways a replacement to financial levels needed to support a middle class. When you have a shrinking middle class that is the major driver of the economy of a country start to shrink and is not being support then there is big trouble ahead. As if the Global Financial Crises in 2008 wasn't a sign that a serious look and overhaul of our financial economic situation was required, but the impact of wealth distribution, government management and income disparities will continue. I can wager then anyone of us posting on You tube could become redundant and it wouldn't take long for us to be relying on food stamps, lower health costs, emergency housing or leaning on relatives for support.

[@Mandragara]

Then why do you (presumably) work? Also, why do these people look so unhappy if their life is so easy?

[@LoveAndSnapple]

And most people believe that food stamps are a lifelong benefit. Unless you are on disability or something that really prevents you from making your own living everyone is on borrowed time. Like right now, the government is no longer providing unemployment benefits.

[@synapse131]

If only. The best one can get for a family of three is about $700 in the best states and $175 in the worst, for one year (most states it's around $200-300.) The only indefinite benefit is food stamps for families with children. I'm on SSDI for a very severe disabling condition and after I pay for rent, health insurance, utilities, etc. I have less than $100 for food and all other needs. I get no rent assistance, food stamps, transportation assistance, and as I stated, I still have to pay for my health insurance. You have it all wrong.

[@americanIDOLfan11111]

Most people don't know how easy it is to live free of the government... so they don't even try. And LoveAndSnapple, unemployment is nothing like welfare... unemployment is insurance that your employer pays the government while you work, so when you lose your job, you get 6 months worth of pay (it was moved to a year's worth of pay during the recession).. but welfare is forever, as long as you stay within the criteria to get it.

[@wildcurlgirl5439]

SALE THE EXPENSIVE HOUSE AND CARS YOU CAN NOT AFFORD.... NOT FOOD STAMP NEEDED.

[@theuglykwan]

House prices collapsed so there were people sitting on negative equity. You'd have trouble selling during that time. I tried to sell mine at 40% off and no takers. My friends sold theirs and saddled with the debt they still owed as the sale price didn't cover their original purchase price. They are still paying that debt off but the price has now more than exceeded the previous high. If they hung on to it they'd be gold now.

[@RuRaynor]

And if you're a renter who takes the bus, what then?

[@burly636]

Do this kind of story now! Things are even worse. I don't condemn foodstamps, I was there once.

[@emeraldkimble7602]

As transportation limited I have to pay twelve dollars in cab fare to get groceries one can get done food with 12 bucks cash

[@backeast2283]

Why are these people eating better than I do?

[@JinStyles]

why don't you?

[@kwatlington1]

+Tax Mule true... I work two jobs.... no government help....

[@Tusuperbis]

I work very hard to be a productive citizen. I know for a fact I don't have as many groceries in the house as the people I know getting food stamps and welfare. They all the time telling me to join up with them and rape the system like they do. They always inviting me over for dinner.

[@annettemasden3382]

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[@ssssaa2]

@jfsfrnd 200 dollars per month means approximately 6 dollars or so a day for food, which is only 180 but tax makes 200. That is enough to eat very well for 1 person, decently for 2 people, and if you really had to stretch it, could make do for 4 or 5 people but it would be rice and other stuff like that at that point so not good. To be blunt 200 dollars a month is not that much money, like 2400 a year, and if you can't earn 2400 dollars more a year somehow... then you probably aren't trying very hard. One part time job will literally make several times that. 5 hours a week will make that much.

[@BenDover-kk1dw]

thx mr obama,1/5 of the country is on ebt,while your on vacation and golfing on our dollar.

[@theuglykwan]

He inherited that crisis cos some fuckers repealed the regulations. They are on EBT because he relaxed the rules for that to help them.

[@terryankevmiller470]

Why don't you say thanks Donald Trump for giving all those wealthy who don't need the money 2 trillion dollars

[@blitzkriegcarnage8107]

+theuglykwan , no, he didn't. And he doubled our debt and stole 43 million from us. Wow.

[@egold9081]

at least with platinum you can go to centurion lounge for food

[@leonarddavies288]

Faisal Islam is a box ticker for the BBC

[@PsychicsRfake456]

the reason why people judge you for buying ice cream at the store is because ice cream is a junk food you don't need and the taxpayer is forced to pay for your junk food. if you are going to buy junk food on EBT the taxpayer has every right to judge you. there are lots of people who are not on welfare have to work their ass off, live paycheck to paycheck and can't rally afford junk food for themselves but are forced to pay for the people on EBT

[@PsychicsRfake456]

***** Go away Troll

[@chicnoir29]

TheUnmaskedMagician We should judge people for any and all unhealthy habits they have because people don't exist in a vacuum. Eventually their problems will become our problem.

[@luzfigueroa1550]

Exactly shut up!!!!

[@kerbygator]

SkidRow Get a job, you fat welfare recipient piece of poop. Ice cream is for people who work for a living, not fuckin bums.

[@crobinson2624]

How much in taxes do you pay a Year? Probably not enough, so sit down and shut up.

[@TechniPat1958]

if you want ice cream today, GET A JOB

[@MrDodger3222]

Pat Studer Damn right!!! I hate when people use my taxes for junk food!!!

[@zippyb2447]

Pat Studer Most people on food stamps have a job. The problem is minimum wage pays so little that those workers qualify for food stamp assistance. Companies are using the government and taxpayers to supplement the wages of their workers. What I'd like to see is min wage increased so that people who earn that pay no longer qualify for food stamps.

[@jonathanbain14]

Pat Studer did you not listen to anything in this news report? Are you really that fucking stupid? The reporter just said that this is the 'working poor' - what do you think 'working' means? Christ if you're that dumb maybe -you- shouldn't have a job!

[@MyPedorro]

+Pat Studer I'll take yours

[@MrDodger3222]

Why should my taxes allow food stamp people to buy candy, soda and ice cream?

[@sallyclay1974]

In CT, they give u extra food stamps at the end of the month. On the first of every month, they give u extra, as well. Food is very expensive now. Inflation is affecting everyone.

[@maryannknox7158]

Every one I know are living in poverty and having difficulty just getting by

[@Leemill140]

I would rather starve than go on food stamps or accept money I didn't earn. Just how my parents raised me

[@americanIDOLfan11111]

Well.. it's a good thing there's people like you that take care of the people that don't feel like working.

[@TheCarin12]

Most people on food stamps probably said the same at one stage. Lets see you be so proud when you have a couple of hungry children.

[@GIitchclan12]

+TheCarin12 Its always the hungry children isn't it? Unless you were forcibly inseminated you have no reason to bring children into this. If you can't feed em don't breed em.

[@runkeral901]

Leemill140 Your choice,just don't condemn those who are on food stamps.

[@brandyfelles1359]

Of people like my self grow up I. Foster care was never aloud to get a job or liecon so to say i chose to have the problem that I do that keep me for. Working is not right. Yes I worked on my problem but it has become parent over the last few years that some people will just always be heatful and rude and not have a open mine to why some people. Have no clue on why other chose to judged me when it was the government who raised me. All I ever wanted was a family. And thanks to god I have my son and man I have a family. After all I been throw. It make me sick there. People who judged people like me for getting some help when I trued 18 to get my life to ware it is now. Mabe if u chose to understand ware people are coming from then u understand that u made a chose to be mean and judgemental towers thing u think u never have to go throw or see some someone close to u go throw. Untill u have true insisted please don't put ur rude insitive in put and judgement on others.thanks

[@peternorthrup6274]

Ive been on my own since i was 16. There are 24 hours in a day. Work 2 jobs. I did. Stop having kids!!! Thats the key. But no. Lazy people want the free ride. Work? Whats that. I never went to college. I worked. I so glad all of you have kids and are over weight. WORK. No jobs? Move. I did. LAZY.

[@angelicarcher4832]

I have to use them i am hoping to get off assistance. If I could I would find it very liberating.

[@vanessakountul7639]

I don't get how people who work fulltime need this. How can wages be that low?

[@casperblackcat1975]

Minimum wages are controlled by the states unlike here In Australia where It's In federal law here It's $17 an hour I've heard In some U.S states it's as low as $5 an hour.

[@alison2984]

Rent is seriously pricey and wages are about 7.25 a hr in most states now but most places are part time so u dont end up making alot

[@svetlanikolova7673]

Give THEM GARDENS AND SEEDS AND LET THEM GROW THEIR OWN??? Why are you teaching people to depend on others?

[@danhemming6624]

If you use it with extreme couponing you could do ok. Though the coupons are for odd or useless items.

[@lynettewilliams5857]

I agree but some supermarkets refuse to even accept coupons. So that idea only works in some places.

[@thorthunder3227]

Food stamps should not be governed by shelter cost or any other deductions. It should be done solely on the amount of income only.

[@stereomaster4231]

They said Rhode Island is wealthy??? Hahhh. I live an hour from Providence, commute to Boston everyday. The only rich part of Rhode island is South, near Newport (the mansions, the breakers, etc). Providence, the bucket (Pawtucket), Cranston, etc are full of Hispanic minorities that collect welfare that spill into Massachusetts New Bedford, Fall River, Woonsocket. My ancestors lived down there in the 1800s after coming here from England. My great grandfather, who owned an architecture business in Providence, closed up the ship and came up here closer to Boston in the 1950s during the White Flight. If you go to restaurants in Providence, it won't be English being spoken, and the staff will give you a dirty look for not speaking the Guatamalan or Brazilian dialect of Portuguese. The White people who remain there are extremely blue collar. I realize this sounds racist, but I'm not trying to be, this is all factual

[@Real-ti6ww]

Why are British reporters reporting on the US’s poverty issues....just asking because I’ve never heard us report on their stuff like that?!?