Feminism Against Progress

[@metsfanal]

I love that Mary Harrington is one of the few modern thinkers who accurately recognizes the escalation of technology as the true source of societal changes. The sociologist Lewis Mumford breathtakingly highlights this concept when describing the effect of the clock, perhaps the first step ushering in the mechanical age, on humanity: "[T]he effect of the mechanical clock is more pervasive and strict: it presides over the day from the hour of rising to the hour of rest. When one thinks of the day as an abstract span of time, one does not go to bed with the chickens on a winter’s night: one invents wicks, chimneys, lamps, gaslights, electric lamps, so as to use all the hours belonging to the day… Abstract time became the new medium of existence. Organic functions themselves were regulated by it: one ate, not upon feeling hungry, but when prompted by the clock: one slept, not when one was tired, but when the clock sanctioned it.”

[@nobledarkmoon]

The next big transformation is DNA in technology. DNA insertion that mimics sperm into eggs will make males inferior at that point. Cloning followed by surrogacy in class warfare. The power spike will occur at this point, and where are the restraints?

[@mikewalsh9041]

Excellent discussion. Progressivist culture, and the political class, works tirelessly to replace the horizontal relationships that unite people into traditional social groups with vertical ties that bind atomized individuals to the State and to its handmaid, corporate capitalism. Politically, their goal is to replace citizens with clients.

[@Paul.Morgan]

Thanks for this engrossing discussion. In his book Shadows of the Mind the physicist Roger Penrose argues that minds are inextricable from physical brain matter. He makes a scientific case in principle against the AI belief that consciousness could be 'uploaded' onto a computer. If he's correct then our minds could never escape our embodiment and transhumanist immortality is impossible. To put it another way souls and bodies are inseparable in life.

[@MorePlausible]

Great exchanges. I see a new wave (or tide?) of a more cohesive feminism in care-based feminism and feminism against progress. Mary Harrington is a breath of fresh air - I am certain that fact that she is not a typical academic and therefore more "normie" has fine-tuned her views to the real world. Nina Power has been highly intriguing since I noticed her work in 2021. Nina is sincere; she is a person that does not say what she thinks is untrue. I bought her 2000 book One Dimensional Woman and have enjoyed it tremendously.

[@LauraKamienski]

Thank you for an absolutely brilliant discussion! I spent a lot of time as an academic philosopher, and I’ve often said, with regard to the gender cult, that it’s really based on the oldest philosophical dilemma out there. The dispute between materialism and idealism. Of course, Descartes was one of the most famous philosophers who tried to reconcile this, and we can think of his reconciliation. Is creating a kind of meat, puppet idealism. And as pointed out in this discussion, the material always comes back to limit. And because Descartes wrote when he did, he had the goal to appease the church and prioritize idealism. So I think he got it wrong when he said cogito ergo sum, I think, therefore I am, when in material reality it is, I am, therefore, I think, and this does not negate the possibility, or probability of spirituality, and or a soul so to speak. Again, thank you for this discussion.

[@KristinP-zi2dj]

Gender is about dualism. anything else is hedonistic.

[@LauraKamienski]

@KristinP-zi2dj Dualism is fundamentally idealism, which philosophers unsuccessfully tried to reconcile with material reality.

[@KristinP-zi2dj]

dualism is fundamental,@@LauraKamienski

[@benaiahwright937]

Mrs. Harrington is freaking brilliant.

[@KristinP-zi2dj]

Emily never embraced Christianity, folks.

[@iamanomas]

Rent a womb and hire a nurturer would be a simpler way to see it. This is a hard to grasp conversation.

[@jessies16]

Jessie Smith