Fencing with the long sword 2012

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Back in 2007, when we released our first video "Fechten mit dem langen Schwert", videos on youtube had a really low resolution and 4:3 format.
So if you liked this video, you can watch it again now. In the best quality we were able to pull from the old material :)

[@thiagodunadan]

If I saw a Hollywood movie with those proper techniques and those proper clothes, I would be so happy.

[@oolooo]

Me too .Sadly , they think the rules from lightsaber combat apply here .

[@haijyvelho]

+Unusual Stranger . Well it's probably also that they can't just teach the actors proper longsword techniques. It's easier to just make big over-swings and "cool" spinning movements and whatnot, they don't want to hire an actual historical martial arts teacher to teach the actors to use a sword. I guess Hollywood combat sells better anyway, if they found out that realistic historical combat gets them a lot more money, they'd probably do that instead.

[@thiagodunadan]

***** That's the thing: we don't actually know if realistic combat would sell, because Hollywood never tries it.

[@haijyvelho]

Thiago Monteiro Yeah well, "if it works, don't fix it", the normal Hollywood fighting style works for them and gets them money so why try anything new... They really don't care about historical accuracy or realism either.

[@TheNathanX100]

The thing is martial arts teachers teach people to hit their opponent whilst in film they still have to actually entertain and in doing so they forget about the whole realism thing. It would be good if they choreographed a fight and then asked a real swordsman what they thought of it and improved from there.

[@JeetKuneDoBelgrade]

Pro's. Nice demonstration. Serves to show Western Fencing as IT IS - a martial art. Not hacking and slashing with armour on, without skill whatsoever. You can see proper footwork here, attack by drawing, very often deflecting rather then simply blocking with sheer force. This is real martial art, not a child's game.

[@zoolkhan]

@Stefano Dawg in these days it is hard to say what filtered in which direction as modern day HEMA practitioners often start with kali/escrima before they grab steel. The basic training drills upper and lower gates from escrima are very valuable for HEMA practitioners too. --- Also, as i understood the spanish have not taught the philipinas to fight - they rather have forbidden them to practise martial arts as they were subduing the natives - like good spaniards did evrywhere. There was no point in teaching them how to mount a resistance. Makes sense? So it is unlikely they go that art from the spanish. The story goes that because swordplay was forbidden, the philipinos swapped the machete type swords and knifes for sticks and continued training swordplay that way. And that is why we use sticks in kali-escrima training today. But the techniques are just camourflaged blade techniques.

[@jordanwilson5964]

Even when they did fight with armor on they still used proper technique, unlike m1 global.

[@TesticularDancer]

My favorite video on KZbin. Really an immaculate display of swordplay here.

[@physical_insanity]

Kristopher M If you like this, then you'll love Longsword by Adorea Olomouc. It's the best damn swordfighting video I've ever seen.

[@adamschaeffer4057]

I must have watched this a hundred times, no doubt. These guys are so badass they don't even bother with the masks and gloves, but very clearly they are coming within inches of putting each other's eyes out.

[@silafuyang8675]

Agreed. This video is a treasure, real inspiration.

[@beerrunner8153]

The lost art of sword fighting is not lost at all. Thank for the good fight. And teaching.

[@REDWOLF5652]

God, I love seeing more historical longsword battles! I started German longsword back in 2006, and it felt like there were only a handful of us--but now it seems Western martial arts are finally starting to get more notice, and it's amazing!

[@traikentercept7074]

The music is amazing.

[@dexter432432]

I hate it when movies show longswords as slow brutes with no skill just strength

[@adrianvasian]

***** not really...

[@ibramovi8844]

dexter432432

[@ZegohsOfZegCrew]

+matt mc Hopefully through practice practitioners realize the manuals are just rough guidelines.

[@Ghastly_Grinner]

Well im most people's mind there is no room for europeans long swords as the Asian martial arts cult is so strong

[@inigo5460]

@@Ghastly_Grinner yeah, these weebs think katana can penetrate ANYTHING lol

[@dukenukemthreed]

Germanic swordsmanship is beautiful simplicity, inspired by war, refined by Hans Talhoffer.

[@dukenukemthreed]

Needless to say I hit "subscribe", great video.

[@RenMagnum4057]

Its germanic? I thought it was English.

[@TheCrimsonIdol987]

@@RenMagnum4057 With longsword, there's usually two main traditions taught: 1. The German Liechtenauer tradition, which is a tradition started by Johannes Liechtenauer in the late 14th century. 2. The Italian Fiore tradition, which is a tradition started by Fiore dei Liberi in the early 15th century. The reason is that they are the most complete systems of longsword. Of course both Liechtenauer and Fiore covered other weapons, and the two schools of thought are very similar, so much so that you can just call it different interpretations on how to use the longsword. The main difference between the two is the mindset: 1. In the Fiore tradition, you first stop the opponent's attack, then kill him. 2. In the Liechtenauer tradition, you stop the opponent's attack by killing him.

[@RenMagnum4057]

@@TheCrimsonIdol987 Cool. Thanks for the info

[@TheCrimsonIdol987]

@@RenMagnum4057 No problem mate! Cheers!

[@KnightedDawn]

In case anyone was curious, here is my best effort at figuring out the techniques they're demonstrating: In order (often multiple exchanges are the same thing, so this is not "per exchange"): Variation on Schnappen? (this is explicitly mentioned in Fiore, too) Zwerchau (which appear to be interspersed with some more deflection & cuts) Absetzen More Schnappen; these are somewhat similar to Fiore's colpo di villano More Absetzen Nachraißen Various Half-swording techniques Presumably Durchwechseln, followed by some Schnappen-like counter Mutieren (upside down, as it were) Duplieren (in theory. I think) These are kind of like Absetzen, but I'm not sure what they are Krumphau Blade grab (found in Fiore) Sword wrap (found in Fiore) More Schnappen-like exchanges Pommel strike (from Fiore) This looks like something out of Meyer, but I'm not familiar with it. Might be one interpretation of fencing from Fiore's posta di donna More Nachraißen Disarms involving the half-sword (some of which could result in throws) Abschneiden Note that these are all best guesses based on approximation, and they probably don't even use many of these interpretations any more. Please let me know if you feel I've missed anything or made any mistakes!

[@fred4800]

You again

[@KnightedDawn]

Again?

[@fred4800]

***** We have talked before.

[@saadfromnemesis2533]

You are awesome, friend.

[@Judicial78]

Video needs to be on a 10 hour loop.

[@winterprison833]

Just imagine, you're out for a walk in the fog, then you hear metal off in the distance, you follow it and see these guys doing some medieval scrapping

[@BoydWillemsen]

Next time someone makes a movie in the medieval times, they should consider calling up some experts to make the fights seem somewhat realistic instead of these RPG-fights in which the one who hacks and slashes the most wins. Or of course, the one who makes the most dramatic turns and hops.

[@KandiKlover]

Watch lindybeige, he does a good job making fun of movies that do that shit lol

[@fred4800]

I completely agree with this post but I have to say that there are several films with realistic historical fencing techniques. A prime example would be the last samurai.

[@parkourunity2339]

boyd willemsen see some polish medieval movies for example kszyzatsie ( I dont know how to spell it)

[@Shoegazebasedgenre0.]

boyd willemsen it would be risky if hollywood tries to make a realistic european battles because the techniques is just dangerous to looks so realistic.even with a prop armor..knights could be hurt because in reality,they would ratter use a blunt force against armoured opponents or knights and there's a high chance that they would dizzy,unconscious,or even vomit.perhaps there would be another way to film a realistic medieval combat on screen..but it wont be so real or fast as we expected and i agree with dramatizing bullshit.they can put the "drama" in other way like before the battle,or after the battle

[@gsimon123]

+TerrionGaming I'm in total agreement. As a filmmaker myself I'm very interested in trying to implement realistic sword fighting into a movie one day. It is just so fluid and different than mainstream hack and slash. This looks so much more efficient and dangerous.

[@EmanuelNadera]

I love seeing half swording techniques truly beautiful!

[@pixiekawai]

where were these heroes when they were fucking up the swordfighting in Game of Thrones... This would have been great!

[@MNGN101]

+Even Mehl Amundsen Yes, I would have loved to have the duel with Arthur Dayne end in 6 seconds.

[@GonzoTehGreat]

@@MNGN101 Sword fights BASED on historical techniques can still be dramatised and drawn out. They don't need to end brutally quickly unless this serves the story. The difference is that genuine skill is involved and audiences are treated to a bit of history.

[@MNGN101]

@@GonzoTehGreat Except these techniques completely contradict the idea of a "drawn out" duel. I'm glad the show-runners aren't wasting their time trying to find ways to apply techniques that were meant for fast, 1 on 1 duels to drawn out fights scenes with multiple people, all the while trying to convey emotion and tell a story.

[@GonzoTehGreat]

@@MNGN101 These techniques are being demonstrated. That's why they typically demonstrate only a single cut, followed by a parry and a counter. An actual duel wouldn't necessarily be that short, especially if the combatants were of similar skill. You might be happy to accept poor, fantastical, Hollywood style, fight choreography but some of us would prefer them to try and bit harder and aim a little higher.

[@knightshousegames]

The real OGs remember the 4:3 aspect ratio version This video was probably the video that made me aware that HEMA existed. When I first saw the video I thought the costumes were kinda weird, now I understand why the costumes look the way they do. When I first saw this video, my swords were mostly wooden. Now I own steel swords, and a little bit of armor. I was interested in swords and stuff, but mostly because of Zelda, LotR, and Final Fantasy. Now I am writing my own fantasy RPG that is more low fantasy informed by this sort of style. I am grateful that this video exists still, I still come back to it from time to time. Thank you.

[@logi4840]

Imagine Game of Thrones had this accurate sword fight

[@4hedgesfamily]

I honestly don't know if I can move my longsword that fast. Watching this, I see so much I need to learn! Thank you for demonstrating the techniques so clearly, and showing how they can be built on. If you can, please produce more videos.

[@zoopyjoobles]

This video makes me so happy.

[@Valor06]

I practically watch this video at least once a friggin' week, it's just so damn good.

[@windosa2006]

Seriously some of that shit looks hollywood worthy af. Why aren't they doing it like this in GoT or other shows/movies?

[@PandemicalShade]

The actors are all amateurs and would never be able to imitate this high-end swordplay without injuring themselves :-( There's only one possible solution to this: Only cast actors in fighting roles who are PROFICIENT at sword fighting!!!

[@windosa2006]

Hexates It's 2016 mate. Totally possible to have people like the ones in the video be the doubles and then later on CGI the actors head on the body. Also, don't underestimate actors. You should watch some "Making of" Videos on good movies. Some actors train really really hard with real skilled martial artists to make things look real.

[@PandemicalShade]

Maverick CGI is a really good point. I would love to see this happening via CGI.

[@SedgeSedgicus]

calm down, Ian.

[@b19931228]

Complete newb to swords play and martial art can reproduce these moves with proper coach and instructions in a few days or so. Not that they can actually fight with a sword efficiently in the real world or tournament after only few days. But a planned fight scene should be alright. That's why some film or TV series are starting to hire HEMA instructors. They're not hiring those people to train actors into actual swordsman or something in the like.. they're there to train actors into doing some legit-looking moves in a controlled fashion.

[@dylanfontaine591]

idk why this gets me so excited.. it's like i just wanna jump up, grab my waster, and spar with my mate! maybe it's due to me loving the fluidity of their exchanges, even though this is a step demonstration, i know these are pros of the art

[@funnysecksnumber6998]

Hammaborg's videos does the same for me mate

[@lindgrenland]

HIYAH! HIYAH! I love this. Why can't movie duels portray this at least somewhat? God I love the longsword grappling moves. That could be made to look really cool in movie fights, while also being somewhat realistic

[@swlucas]

I'm going to join the chorus here... this is a beautiful display of swordsmanship. As someone with no European fencing experience, I found the way the entire sword was used, along with grappling and entrapment techniques eyeopening and heart-racing. Really great stuff!

[@FernandoRamos-ec6bv]

We need more action-packed movies that take place in Medieval Europe, featuring people fighting with long swords like they're master swordsmen.

[@fafasminguela4333]

Fencing,in its purest state. Una...maravilla

[@Atristiel]

Wow, 1v1 duels must have been really quickly over and done with.

[@MajorCoolD]

It all comes down to the fighters... dont forget that what you see there is choreographed and 'slowed down' for the viewers. It all depends on how agressive each of the combatants are. Naturally people will usually fight more agressive in training fights with blunt swords than they would do in a real fight with sharp swords, at least you'd think so. Of course it all depends on the situation. You can have fights were a skilled and determined, agressive swordsman can take down an enemy in a blink of an eye (though unlikely because while leathal most swordstrokes are not immediatly fatal), while some could go on for minutes with the opponents circling around each other, looking for a gap in the enemies defence or thinking how to approach him, all while constantly changing guards and trying to intimidate the enemy or to encourage him to attack you when you think you have a chance of countering his blow. That's at least the theory, in truth you hardly have time to actively think about it. So yeah so some fights could be over really fast, while others can last very long... all comes down to how eager the fighters are to gamble with their lives.

[@joshridinger3407]

MajorCoolD Sounds about right. What you wouldn't ever really see is a Hollywood/stage fight bashfest. But a circling standoff with occasional pokes? Probably quite common.

[@Atristiel]

***** Forgive me grand master but my entire life I have assumed that being intimidated and being rational are two different things.

[@Atristiel]

Natasel But your muscles lose their power, you struggle to think straight and you start to suffocate, easy kill with every minute/second depending on the loss rate.

[@Cosmoline]

***** Not many of us have been in sword fights against a man who has human blood on his blade and every intention of adding ours to the mix. I think many would turn into frightened women!

[@PetrKulda]

This video is perfect, got me hooked back in 2008, hwen i found it. Keep good work guys.

[@WarriorOfHonor16]

Gosh those ducking parrys at 1:40 are just so cool. Stuff like that - it just blows your mind. So practical - but I'd never think of it! I've started fencing but this stuff really is what intrigues me.

[@PanosGkece]

All I could think of as a gamer and hobbyist game designer was how it would be possible to implement these moves in a video game.

[@sootheater]

Panos Gk the real question is why hasn't this happened yet! xD

[@PanosGkece]

sootheater Well Kingdom Come: Deliverance is trying to do it but they still need to come a long way.

[@Appletank8]

sootheater Because Hollywood. /s

[@17MrLeon]

Panos Gk Long way you say? They are already as far as any game has ever been and their combat I think is already complete.

[@PanosGkece]

Jirka Dusek You can win by mashing the attack button untill you run out of stamina and then retreating to replenish it. It still needs tweaking...

[@grndragon7777777]

Omg 4 years. Thank you 🙏 beautiful

[@KingTairun]

..and that why we love the long sword

[@JimBCameron]

This really brings to life many of the old renaissance manuscripts & shows many comparative techniques from many of the south east Asian systems. Thanks for uploading. :)

[@XH3llBoundX]

Immer wieder schön, und immer wieder ein Quell der Inspiration und des Ansporns mit dem Training weiter zu machen.

[@Vedzmin]

One of my favorite fencing videos!

[@MikoArcher]

Best! Лучшие, просто лучие. Wow. Thanks! Many many thanks for this!

[@natesturm448]

Just closing my eyes and listening to that ring is so satisfying by itself. Then open them and see fluid but easy to follow attacks and it's like icing on a cake.

[@demomanchaos]

I would love to see some more stuff from you guys.

[@zenku41]

Wow, this was amazing, I also love how well the sword fighting is matched with the music, great video

[@AlexanderWernerJr]

Oy! I'm the composer of the music, thanks for your positive comment. If you go to my KZbin channel there is new music I've just published, please feel free to browse my videos and my new homepage.

[@simonlimon7052]

Beautiful sword play!!!

[@romanstaniszewski1030]

BEAUTIFUL ! PLEASE MAKE MORE !!!

[@Zerpentile93]

Looks awesome and it's interesting to see how they fought back then.

[@hdckdsadd]

I keep coming back to see this video :)

[@mizucallow1662]

Awesome techniques and videos.

[@ohshipman]

"class" is the only word i can conceive to describe the maestry of this technique. amazing.

[@danieleb588]

love the music!!

[@ElAdvenimiento]

Please, upload more videos! Your technique is awesome!

[@DD-ye9bb]

Anyone else love the sound those sword make when coming into contact with eachother

[@locolopelocolope]

OMG that steel sound .... Great vid !

[@ESherwood22]

Wish these guys would do more videos.

[@Native_love]

WOW! Absolutely beautiful! Thank you!

[@EternalShadow1667]

Epic. Brings back some nostalgia.

[@rmartine01]

Excelente maestros

[@boutet01]

Magnifique. Je vais venir vous voir à votre école. Merci

[@justsomeguy3931]

This is awesome, I wish the people who made melee fight scenes on TV would consult you.

[@adrianvasian]

2021 and still amazingly awesome :D

[@lucentcloud6388]

one of the best HF video ive seen in my life

[@indignanta4154]

Woo hoo! Good job! Looks like really solid practical moves!

[@interfector036]

Pay attention, D&D. THIS is how you use a two-hander.

[@letummors922]

***** No two hander in this video..

[@17MrLeon]

***** one and a half-hander

[@qwormuli77]

How come, that in these responses the only one with actual information is the one calling himself "World's Biggest Booty Hoes"?

[@jollyleprechaun5436]

I'd say a longsword is a two hander. It's used in two hands most of the time anyway. I'm also assuming your not referring to a montonte/zweihander, which are of course two handed, but a bit bigger in size. Longsword is used two handed is what I'm getting at.

[@physical_insanity]

Longswords would typically have a space in between both hands on the handle to allow for greater rotation. If both hands are together on the handle, then your wrists meet a lot sooner when you spin the weapon.

[@dukesofdevon]

Superb video guys, really enjoyed it.

[@grailknight6794]

old but gold!

[@markthomas741]

Mesmerising!

[@mcvit]

Dieses Jahr legt ihr ja richtig los ;-) Schon zwei Videos. Weiter so!

[@BuzzardBlitz]

Loving the locations ;)

[@badlaamaurukehu]

This is an excellent exposition.

[@ulyssesdacruss5555]

This was one of the first HEMA videos I found on the internet. :)

[@francescomidknight8621]

very impressive, amazing techniques

[@gr8sword]

Still an awesome video!

[@Sylentmana]

I can't stop watching this video. Real European sword fighting is way more exciting than anything Hollywood can cook up.

[@gatogato3748]

bucket list

[@urbansilat]

Thank you for this great video (^^.Youre channel is awesome.

[@im50yearsold]

Those overhooks at 1:25 are awesome.

[@ghostexorcist]

This is poetry in motion!

[@LeonM4c]

Love this video and also this is the most gangster piano track I've ever heard

[@hectornonayurbusiness2631]

Still watching this in 2018

[@gabrielrodriguez2153]

I would love a game or movie with moves like that

[@patrickGforce]

Très beaux mouvements!

[@catboyzee]

Damn, that's crazy. Amazing skill swordmen had to possess...

[@lkvideos7181]

only that the opponent won't simply stop when struck down once ( depending on impact zone of course ) but may still be able to deliver a fatal blow before he dies that's why when striking him/her down you should retreat quickly or try to block his sword as well. Allways be catious.

[@scratchy996]

LKVideos that's exactly how HEMA works, after the kill blow, you must counter the opponent's next blow for your point to be valid.

[@ArmorySmithWorkshop]

Красиво!

[@grndragon7777777]

Thank you

[@manueltoloza6007]

Gotta love that 'ting' sound

[@SGVB22]

i'd love to make videos like this with someone someday, this is so cool!!!!

[@VictorC1891]

This is awesome !!!

[@skhturner]

That was outstanding

[@milky0candy]

Beautiful..

[@Teutororo]

So impressive !!!

[@alexmunoz7114]

This needs more views

[@vincenttrujillo6143]

Very awesome.

[@HipposHateWater]

In the meantime, there's more than 5 HEMA clubs in Seattle alone :)

[@SicaPictures]

Ihr benutzt ja an manchen Stellen Fechtfedern... das ist mir vorher nie aufgefallen! :) ..einfach ein großartiges video!!

[@EgilSea]

Good work, good style. By the way, what swords did you use in this video?

[@talleman1]

Still the best.

[@Justthisguyyouknow]

It's been a long time since I checked, and I don't have my library anymore, but I'm pretty sure the German fechtbooks that survive show a lot of this "rough and tumble" style of fighting... punching, kicking, pommel strikes, etc. It's not just Fiore! :)

[@specopwotan6879]

Genial! Brauche mehr solche videos!

[@L8bro]

Thank you!! More please!! :)

[@MrAlexH1991]

Those duck-under parries, though... I had no idea there were techniques like that in HEMA. They’re straight 🔥

[@hamzayildiz1362]

Awesome video

[@haffoc]

Looks like you guys put in a lot of practice to make this video. Great work.

[@naranjazizimo]

Amazing

[@gryff42]

This looks so much spectecular than what we see in movies.