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Robert Baker

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29 күн бұрын

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@RobertBakerGuitar
@RobertBakerGuitar 28 күн бұрын
What's your favorite G&L Model?
@michaeltoren
@michaeltoren 28 күн бұрын
Rampage, but I always wanted an L2000.
@-cobainism-
@-cobainism- 28 күн бұрын
rampage! edit: lol i was editing this and was gonna say “cuz of jerry cantrell and then you said it as soon as i typed it in the vid 😂
@markmcdonald5711
@markmcdonald5711 28 күн бұрын
Lefty F-100 I got in 1981, double humbuckers, great sounding guitar. Lefty George Fullerton model I got in October 2004 for my 50th birthday, it's a copy of a 1957 Strat but with a 5 position switch. My favorite Strat, gotta love G&L's. The fact that I grew up in mid 60's in Placentia, CA right next to Fullerton where the original Fender factory was and the G&L factory is right down the road from there on Fender Ave. might have something to do with it.
@hansvandenhurk7497
@hansvandenhurk7497 28 күн бұрын
I had a Comanche hollowbody strat which was build perfectly. I could not get used to the sound and after two years I sold it again…
@ErnestoGennariNeto
@ErnestoGennariNeto 28 күн бұрын
S-500 and ASAT Special. Sold my strat and my tele and kept the G&Ls.
@eddieholmes3236
@eddieholmes3236 28 күн бұрын
G&L are massively underrated.
@swissarmyknight4306
@swissarmyknight4306 27 күн бұрын
My G&L not-strats are the best strats I've ever played, were very economically priced, and are my main guitars.
@thierry18
@thierry18 20 күн бұрын
They are slightly more popular with bassists, but I think the problem is the headstock: it's hideous
@sawdustcrypto3987
@sawdustcrypto3987 20 күн бұрын
​@@thierry18I was going to reply the same exact thing you just did until I saw you already said it. I can't bring myself to buy one and it's only because of the headstock
@GabeHelma
@GabeHelma 17 күн бұрын
​@thierry18 it looks like a woman on her back. if you see it like that its not so bad😂
@sawdustcrypto3987
@sawdustcrypto3987 17 күн бұрын
@@GabeHelma It looks like a pregnant woman to me!
@1man1guitarletsgo
@1man1guitarletsgo 28 күн бұрын
Fender himself did the same thing with the pickup in the P-bass: a humbucking pickup, with one coil for half the strings, and the other coil for the other half. Single coil sound, but hum cancelling.
@hughschick6847
@hughschick6847 27 күн бұрын
Exactly. It’s always been better sounding than stacked ones. Artec makes a fantastic J bass pup that uses this construction. And Fralin makes strat pups w that method too.
@jacqueslegault5593
@jacqueslegault5593 27 күн бұрын
Split-coil !
@PlayWithYourThumb
@PlayWithYourThumb 27 күн бұрын
As did Musicman with the bridge J pickup on the Caprice. Its not staggered but is wired EA DG as two humbucking coils.
@marcraygun6290
@marcraygun6290 27 күн бұрын
Wasn't fenďer xii the same
@stamppedals3536
@stamppedals3536 27 күн бұрын
@@hughschick6847Amazing info I was using p Bass pickup for Strat. Should try These
@TylerJohnstonGuitar
@TylerJohnstonGuitar 28 күн бұрын
Leo Fender went on record many times saying G&L guitars were the best guitars he ever made. Everybody should try one at some point.
@SixStringSlinger1
@SixStringSlinger1 28 күн бұрын
Just because he believed that doesn't make it true for everyone. but I personally think they are just about equivalent to Fender. My Strat is still my favorite guitar though.
@TylerJohnstonGuitar
@TylerJohnstonGuitar 28 күн бұрын
@@SixStringSlinger1 That’s why I said people should try em, not drop everything and buy one. I’d personally be hard pressed to find a guitar that takes my attention off my Kramers.
@dpajc056
@dpajc056 27 күн бұрын
Try where?! Never seen one in person
@TylerJohnstonGuitar
@TylerJohnstonGuitar 27 күн бұрын
@@dpajc056 I’ve seen used G&L’s in plenty of Guitar Centers, Sam Ash, stuff like that.
@hughjanus5518
@hughjanus5518 27 күн бұрын
That sold me. I dont like what Fender has become but want a classic start style guitar and I've always been eyeing G&L and now I know why.
@rikou4214
@rikou4214 28 күн бұрын
Fender's biggest rival turns out to be Leo Fender himself.
@RobertBakerGuitar
@RobertBakerGuitar 28 күн бұрын
The ultimate story arc
@Robstafarian
@Robstafarian 24 күн бұрын
@@RobertBakerGuitar George Fullerton and Leo Fender (in their CLF Research era) also originated Music Man guitars, including the bridge design and the 4+2 headstock, after the former Fender employs who started it as an amp company decided they wanted to get into guitars. The Ball Family's bad behavior (to put it mildly) when they took over Music Man led George and Leo to found G&L Guitars, and Sterling Ball has kept the tradition alive (See also: PMT's patented Guitar Max, which EBMM turned into their Game Changer without authorization).
@Idk_anymore_7664
@Idk_anymore_7664 13 күн бұрын
@@RobertBakerGuitarToo real
@MichaelWinter-ss6lx
@MichaelWinter-ss6lx 10 күн бұрын
Not without reason were they so scared of Leo Fender. When CBS bought the Fender company, they gave him a real bad contract, stating that for ten years Leo couldn't start or even help any other git-/amp-company! A lot of '50s to mid '60s innovations came from Leo Fender. Most of the tone controls in our modern amps, even HiFi, come from him. Not sure he invented all, but he was the first in America to implement that all. 🚀🏴‍☠️🎸
@maverick_trail
@maverick_trail 27 күн бұрын
Robert - you completely missed the point of the PTB circuit. It's not meant to be played on "10" - you start on "5" and dial them in to the tone you want (push or cut the bass and treble). You can get everything from vintage Strat tones to P90s and a lot of really usable tones in between. As you get into the larger MFD pickups, the tone changes are more dramatic. This was the genius of Leo Fender.
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 21 күн бұрын
I'd say the starting point is more like 7 on each dial, but otherwise agree.
@fredmachine
@fredmachine 14 күн бұрын
Oh really? Thought since they're passive controls they'd take away a bit much at "5". But I could see having them at like 7 or 8 by default. I actually put that circuit into a Partscaster, but ended up with the knobs on 10 most of the time anyway.
@jasonstrohm9425
@jasonstrohm9425 27 күн бұрын
I’ve had a custom shop Comanche for 9 years. It’s clear, cuts thru, and has an empress wood body just under 6lbs. The bass cut knob is very versatile. Killer guitar
@stamppedals3536
@stamppedals3536 27 күн бұрын
Ash body?
@jasonstrohm9425
@jasonstrohm9425 26 күн бұрын
@@stamppedals3536 no I ordered mine specifically with Empress wood for the body. Very light weight
@guitfreaker
@guitfreaker 28 күн бұрын
IMO, the G&L slayed the Strat. Much clearer, louder, and less harsh in the high end.
@adamfstewart81
@adamfstewart81 28 күн бұрын
And less noise
@stewarttomkinson3356
@stewarttomkinson3356 28 күн бұрын
Yes, the majority of the reason I don’t like ceramic pick ups they’re just so biting and tribal is just off the hook sometimes
@beefnacos6258
@beefnacos6258 27 күн бұрын
Pickups in g&l are wayyyyyy better
@sirtogii5216
@sirtogii5216 27 күн бұрын
As a noob I have to agree. Maybe, just maybe it sounded a little too clean and clear? I'm thinking the Strat would fit better in a smoky bar, some dude sits on a stool in a corner and just plays a bit. Then again, nobody smokes anymore so that vibe is probably not valid...
@stewarttomkinson3356
@stewarttomkinson3356 27 күн бұрын
@@sirtogii5216 🤡👍🏻
@SG-qm7to
@SG-qm7to 28 күн бұрын
My opinion, and I stress OPINION, you may need to clean your Strat, cuz the G&L just pooped all over it! Again, just my opinion.
@bluematrix5001
@bluematrix5001 27 күн бұрын
100% Robert's strat sound fizzy and with bad saturation when he plays dynamically harder
@Cosmo__Kramer
@Cosmo__Kramer 27 күн бұрын
Yea I thought the g&l sounded better
@ChrisShortyAllen
@ChrisShortyAllen 27 күн бұрын
That's not an opinion. More an unbalanced insult lacking an intellectual basis.
@MickH60
@MickH60 27 күн бұрын
@@ChrisShortyAllen What ? I bet you're fun at parties....! Totally unnecessary and rather childish comment...
@tylerdurden3754
@tylerdurden3754 22 күн бұрын
@@ChrisShortyAllen ChrisPoopAllen
@shonkornfeld
@shonkornfeld 27 күн бұрын
1. G&L is not Fender's biggest rival, not by a long shot 2. The "tone" controls are a Bass Cut and Treble Cut, significantly more usable than standard Tone controls IMO
@vincentl.9469
@vincentl.9469 22 күн бұрын
I thought G&L IS Fender?? it's not a rival
@justafase
@justafase 22 күн бұрын
@@vincentl.9469 It was founded by Leo Fender (and George Fullerton) but it is not owned by Fender.
@vincentl.9469
@vincentl.9469 22 күн бұрын
@@justafase I see. Those Z pickups seem to be a cross between the original Fender wide range humbucker and stacked noiseless single coils
@DrNoClu
@DrNoClu 21 күн бұрын
​@justafase you could say that G&L's are cousins with Fender
@IndigoJo
@IndigoJo 15 күн бұрын
@@vincentl.9469 They are the same structure as the P-Bass pickup, just they are for a six-string.
@johnnyrandom100
@johnnyrandom100 28 күн бұрын
That switch to bring in the neck with the bridge is a "Gilmore" mod.
@jvin248
@jvin248 28 күн бұрын
And a Tele middle switch position.
@PaulCooksStuff
@PaulCooksStuff 28 күн бұрын
Gilmour. #pedantmode
@JohnLloydDavis
@JohnLloydDavis 27 күн бұрын
I regularly remove the middle tone pot from my Strats and put the switch in there for the mod. It's such a great tone.
@jeroenwoeltjes6823
@jeroenwoeltjes6823 27 күн бұрын
@@JohnLloydDavis I changed the electronics on my strat a bit where I have 1 master tone and the second tone knob is now a knob where I can dial in the amount of the neck pick up. Works very well
@JohnLloydDavis
@JohnLloydDavis 27 күн бұрын
@@jeroenwoeltjes6823 That's a good idea, not thought of that.
@ljmiller96
@ljmiller96 28 күн бұрын
I like the treble cut and bass cut circuits. They don't work like anything else, so you can get tones you can't reach on other guitars.
@tesco24
@tesco24 28 күн бұрын
Reverend guitars also have this
@frankscassi4960
@frankscassi4960 28 күн бұрын
The treble cut is actually a regular tone control, the bass cut is simple but cleaver, because if you put it wide open it's completely bypassed for 'regular" tones, so that purists can still have it on their guitar without problems
@Robstafarian
@Robstafarian 24 күн бұрын
@@tesco24 Reverend uses a different treble-bleed circuit and a different bass capacitor.
@frankscassi4960
@frankscassi4960 11 күн бұрын
@peterg5383 you can get real close but it's not quite the same. For example I use the bass cut knob to clean up fuzz pedals, EQ pedals might introduce buffers and other stuff that wouldn't work just the same. I have to agree, though, that EQ pedals are some of the most useful tools a guitarist can buy, and many people would spend a lot less on other stuff if they bought and properly learnt how to use EQ
@Robstafarian
@Robstafarian 11 күн бұрын
@peterg5383 Connecting to an EQ pedal introduces effects that a guitar's tone controls do not.
@craiger2399
@craiger2399 28 күн бұрын
I like that the pickups were less scooped. Even the neck had plenty of mids, which is a nice difference from the scooped strat neck pickup.
@francizabukoveczabukowski
@francizabukoveczabukowski 28 күн бұрын
To properly compare the neck pickup, slightly turn down the volume and bass knobs on Comanche. This is the secret of the PTB system, made by the genius Leo Fender. G&L guitars with MFDs and Z-Coils are not meant to be played exclusively at 10. There is a whole different wonder world down there, hehe.
@markcollins3424
@markcollins3424 27 күн бұрын
This! Love z-coils
@maverick_trail
@maverick_trail 27 күн бұрын
100% correct. This review was not a good representation of what the Comanche can do.
@michaelmenkes7233
@michaelmenkes7233 27 күн бұрын
that bass contour literally dials in any given era or model of Fender pickup. I can also make my Skyhawk HH go full strat or tele when coil split using the bass contour. In H mode they are modern and great sounding pickups, but is rare to find an H with a good sounding coil split.
@hearpalhere
@hearpalhere 26 күн бұрын
+1 for the PTB system being really cool. It's a genius idea really.
@michaelmenkes7233
@michaelmenkes7233 26 күн бұрын
@@hearpalhere Reverend does it too. The genius of it isn't that hard to figure out. Different capacitors filter out different frequencies. I believe the same value capacitor is in the treble bleed circuit.
@once-and-future
@once-and-future 28 күн бұрын
Once you get used to the bass rolloff, and when to use it, you'll find it becomes pretty key. One of my first mods on a stock guitar and my go-to for anything home assembled is that PTB circuit
@Frewster
@Frewster 13 күн бұрын
A lot of pros use treble boosts, bass cut seems like another way to get there to me. Love that it's built in and not a separate box at the start of your chain.
@TedSchoenling
@TedSchoenling 27 күн бұрын
G&L is by far the best evolution of what Fender should have been. Leo really put his best into these.
@rcannonp
@rcannonp 28 күн бұрын
A friend of mine had an S-500 in the late 90s. I still think about that guitar. It was the best sounding Strat that I’ve ever heard.
@ihavetonsofthese
@ihavetonsofthese 28 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for covering this. To my generation at least, I feel like G&L haven't done much of a job selling themselves and talking about the innovations that Leo made while with them. Like you, I was only really familiar with Cantrell's use of the Rampage. They'd do themselves a great service to put out a video explaining all the improvements Leo made to his classic designs and promoting the hell out of it. Otherwise I think lots of players assume that (like with the headstock) many of the changes were more of a matter of copyright or brand distinguishment rather than technical innovation.
@douglasaxtell
@douglasaxtell 28 күн бұрын
I’ve got three G&Ls; Legacy HB, S-500, ASAT Bluesboy. They are each unique and excellent guitars. You should check out the ASAT Z3 too.
@GoranPantic
@GoranPantic 28 күн бұрын
Try bass cut on fuzz - very useful. Also useful for muddy overdrive pedals if you wanna clean it up
@dannyllerenatv8635
@dannyllerenatv8635 28 күн бұрын
G&L's pickups and designs are genius. Now I will say, that something I like about vintage staggered single coils is that what happens to be their biggest shortcoming is also one of their biggest strengths if that makes any sense, and that would be the quack and chime they provide. However, it also helps if you're someone who uses compressors on your pedalboard. That immediately fixes the downfall of vintage staggered pups.
@MHowieDoC
@MHowieDoC 28 күн бұрын
When I finally decided to invest in a strat style guitar my research lead me to buying an S-500. (The asian models use the same pickups as the Fullerton models.) It's got everything a fender does plus extra tones and bigger output. I eventually got an ASAT Special to get a T-style guitar without being stuck with too much twang. The jumbo MFD pickups are a unique design worth exploring.
@richiebohr5421
@richiebohr5421 27 күн бұрын
The Z-Coil pickups are awesome. In addition, the G&L Dual Fulcrum bridge is one of the best out there. Extremely well thought out and built and it feels wonderful. I have one of the earlier Comanche's from 1989 with the different body style and it's been a workhorse since I bought it brand new. The ASAT Specials are also a different but fantastic take on a Tele. Once again, on the ASAT, Leo outdid himself on that bridge design and the MFD large pickups sound amazing. For a radio repair guy, Mr. Fender came up with some incredible stuff for us guitar players, starting with Fender, then Music Man and finally G&L.
@kyzor-sosay6087
@kyzor-sosay6087 22 күн бұрын
Well said.G & L guitars are fantastic.
@bluematrix5001
@bluematrix5001 27 күн бұрын
Wow the G&L has more "Note" definition and cleaner/clearer Mids, the Fender is more blurry on the mid and has some fizzy, distorted tone, specially when Robert plays harder ...I really prefer way more the sound of the G&L
@nicksburson1
@nicksburson1 27 күн бұрын
The bass roll off is important for those pickups because they sound too full to match with normal single coils. Roll off a little bass and a little volume and your pretty much there. Or just enjoy it for what it is with everything on full
@jvin248
@jvin248 28 күн бұрын
The "Bass Contour" (Reverend Guitar's name for it, they have a slightly different circuit but same function) is good for Fuzz.
@fruitfulprudence
@fruitfulprudence 28 күн бұрын
Yeah I love this feature personally on my Legacy, great for heavy overdrive style sounds for sure
@Robstafarian
@Robstafarian 24 күн бұрын
I have a partsocaster project paused for other work which combines the G&L PTB circuit with per-pickup volume controls and a trio a Railhammer Humcutters (Neuvo 90 set neck and middle, Heavy 90 bridge); some other features will give it more than 1,000 tonal options with which to use those five knobs (two concentric, one standard).
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 21 күн бұрын
@@Robstafarian And the pot that isn't concentric, you can make a push-pull to add an invisible switch to bypass the treble roll-off circuit if you want that icepick-in-the-forehead bright bridge pickup sound.
@Robstafarian
@Robstafarian 21 күн бұрын
@@mal2ksc I have not been able to find a push/pull or push/push 1MΩ C (reverse audio) taper pot from any vendor. I know part numbers from various manufacturers, including my preferred manufacturer Bourns, but no one stocks them.
@apostolosbakopoulos5225
@apostolosbakopoulos5225 28 күн бұрын
i have a fretless authentic 2007 butterscotch blonde usa comanche and i also have a replacement neck with stainless steel frets. the trem, the wood, the construction, and the pickups are fantastic. the two things i did was 1.shielding it with aluminium tape and 2.changing the circuit to a master volume (without the stock treble bleed capacitor) and i also changed the to 2 treble cut tone controls. one for the neck and one for the hotter bridge pickup. the middle pickup has no tone control. also the value of the two different capacitors is fine tuned for each pickup. i used lower capacitance values from 0.22, so the tone controls only cut a smaller amount of treble. just enough for making the high gain sounds smooth but never muddy. i also got rid of the mini switch, because it gets in the way of my fingers and once it caught my pinky between the knob and the switch. the guitar is built like a tank. the neck pocket and the trem inserts are superior to any other guitar in any price range. also the wood grade is closer to fender custom shop and has nothing to do with mass produced fenders. this does not mean that fenders or other stratocaster copies are not good. but G&L is certainly better made in its price range, compared to anything else i have seen and i dont say it lightly. i have played innumerable guitars in 43 years, especially pricey or, custom or, original vintage models and only in the 5k and up of very few custom build makers there is a neck pocket and a sturdy bridge like that. thanx for the demo.
@k8923
@k8923 28 күн бұрын
Interesting. I like the Z pups. More bite, mid range growl. Maybe you should keep this one Robert!
@cliftonwright7081
@cliftonwright7081 28 күн бұрын
I played em for many years. Still love em. Your playing sounds great on the opening track!
@garrysimmons111
@garrysimmons111 27 күн бұрын
I wanted a Strat in the mid-90s. I ran the racks at every local music store checking out Fender American Strats. Then I played a 1996 G&L Legacy (USA made). Done deal. It just had something special. Still have that guitar and it's in excellent shape despite lots of play time over the years. The Reverend Jetstream 390 has my attention (3 P-90s) as a vaguely strat like thing that's not a Strat.
@Rickyeldiablobobby
@Rickyeldiablobobby 21 күн бұрын
Also been playing my P-90 equipped Reverend a lot lately too! Out of curiosity how do the tone circuits compare to the Comanche? Obviously different pickup types but I love the bass roll off on the Reverend and was curious if they are comparable at all
@joshnorris5547
@joshnorris5547 28 күн бұрын
I have an HSS Chapman ML1 that just had a 3 way toggle stock. Slapped some Duncans in there, and added a toggle just like that, but for the middle pup. Basically wired it up as a 2 pickup axe and then bring in the middle pup with the toggle for in between tones, or all 3 pups at once in the middle position.
@nathanreese6268
@nathanreese6268 28 күн бұрын
G&L's trem bridge is awesome, I've had quite of nit of success keeping it in tune even with some decent bending.
@markiszak
@markiszak 27 күн бұрын
Absolutely on the G&L bridges. I have a ‘97 legacy special and I hardly ever have to tune it. Just so well designed and made. Easy on palm too when resting on the bridge or palm muting. Rock on, time to go play the guitar now haha
@jeffreyeagen4896
@jeffreyeagen4896 28 күн бұрын
I have a G&L Asat (tribute) with the MFD pickups. If you haven't tried those pickups yet you should. They are different. Also I just saw a clip from G&L saying they are bringing back the Rampage.
@GuitarGuy4647
@GuitarGuy4647 22 күн бұрын
More Rampages with Kahlers please.
@PerfectCircle91
@PerfectCircle91 11 күн бұрын
​@@GuitarGuy4647Took the words right outta my mouth! A GOOD quality, well set up Kahler trounces a Floyd for heavy handed players and you don't have to fight them all the time like the stupid high tension/ metric fucking foot pounds of pressure that Floyd's require😂😂😂
@ernestkaiser6893
@ernestkaiser6893 27 күн бұрын
I worked for G&L back in the mid 80's, back when metal was at its peak. Leo didn't cater to the metal heads at all, and I was playing a BC Ritch. Thier fretboard radius was always too small, and I could never get good action out of them. On the other hand, they were very well made to last a lifetime.
@migueldemaria3830
@migueldemaria3830 7 күн бұрын
The BC Rich or the G&L had a small radius and bad action?
@clarkgriffith5705
@clarkgriffith5705 28 күн бұрын
The z coils are pretty cool. They're really humbuckers. Bass side gets a coil, treble side gets a coil. Clever way to get him cancelling.
@mhedderl
@mhedderl 28 күн бұрын
G&Ls are amazing and super underrated. Their passive treble bass circuit is so flexible and useful. I have 3 G&Ls; a Comanche, ASAT Special, and SB-2. ASAT Special is a tele on steroids. If you haven’t played one highly recommend it. Bet it becomes your favorite t style guitar. I don’t play my 71 strat anymore and sold my 75 tele deluxe after getting my G&Ls.
@rickjohns689
@rickjohns689 27 күн бұрын
That thing is sweet. I modded my strat with a similar tone expander. I use a no load pot, and wired it to the hot wires of the bridge and neck pickups. At 10, it is off, as the no load disconnects completely. But as I roll it back, it blends in the pickups in. Some interesting sounds are found through the middle of the range, and at 0, it is a straight connection.
@RomainG6409
@RomainG6409 28 күн бұрын
I have G&L's since 2008 and a Comanche since a few years ... on the same price range, they are far better than the Fenders in my opinion (subjective but hey you asked 😉)... and the thing which is great (like with some Sterling by Music Man (that is also a brand Leo Fender co created) or Schecters') is that the entry level ones (made in Asia) have ALL, US mechanics, bridges and pickups ! which means that there is no need to buy a Made in US model as to have the best sound out of it ! If you want to test others, I would recommend the Fallout model which is an incredible light and small versatile guitar with its P90 and a splittable Humbucker but as well the ASAT Telecaster thinline model with two single coils ... a beast ... I have all of them 😃
@JoelWetzel
@JoelWetzel 27 күн бұрын
Mine is an ASAT Deluxe Tribute (T-style archtop HH w/ coil split) from Indonesia. Its bridge is the most comfortable for palm muting I've played; kudos to G&L.
@oldasrocks9121
@oldasrocks9121 27 күн бұрын
Split coils, like the 2nd Gen PBass pickups. The passive tone circuit stuff is pretty geniusy.
@Tognar
@Tognar 27 күн бұрын
I own a Comanche. And I like to say it’s a single coil guitar for people who mostly play humbuckers.
@b.rodclark334
@b.rodclark334 28 күн бұрын
Even though I have stacked humbuckers in my Strat, I would love to tango around with a Comanche or at least have those pickups loaded in a Strat or even a Tele!
@Robstafarian
@Robstafarian 24 күн бұрын
Check out a Tribute Series Comanche if the neck is not too small for you. Have you considered Bill Lawrence's pickup designs via Wilde Pickups (still made by his widow Becky and their daughter Shannon)? I plan to load an HSH partsocaster with an L-500C (originally, the L-510 neck pickup) in the neck, an L-298SM (noiseless strat-style middle pickup with an AlNiCo VIII bar magnet), and an L-500R (originally, the L-500 neck pickup) in the bridge; the neck and bridge in series should approximate an L-500L (originally, the L-510 bridge pickup).
@riniones
@riniones 28 күн бұрын
the Comanche has more lows and more highs than an average strat so you really need to work those T&B cut controls to get it to sound closer to a strat
@pzupich
@pzupich 28 күн бұрын
I had a nice ASAT Classic. I like higher output pickups and those are built somewhere between a Fender and P-90. I put an ASAT Classic neck pickup into a tele I built. Didn't realize I'd have to route the guitar deeper to fit. (the bar magnet is at the bottom with adjustable allen poles.)
@JoseCarbia
@JoseCarbia 27 күн бұрын
@RobertBakerGuitar the neck is two pieces, but not in the traditional way. The neck is made and then splitted in two halves to introduce the truss rod.
@fanbladeinstruments
@fanbladeinstruments 15 күн бұрын
Bass players have known about that pickup coil configuration for literally 7 decades. The Precision bass was groundbreaking, earthshaking, and unsurpassed. I don't understand why guitarists haven't adopted the Zs in massive numbers.
@chrisggoodwin777
@chrisggoodwin777 27 күн бұрын
I've played quite a few of Leo's Big 3 (Fender, G&L, Music Man) and I've always preferred G&L and MM over Fender. The fit and finish have always been superior, and tones have been clearer and fuller, both on guitar and bass. As stated, just my personal opinion and preference
@bks252
@bks252 27 күн бұрын
I have a 2004 G&L ASAT Will Ray Special that has custom Z Coil pickups. The guitar body is Swamp Ash with skull inlays for fret markers and also has a b bender. It is a stunning guitar and plays and sounds like a dream.
@escargotomy
@escargotomy 6 күн бұрын
About 15 years ago I was on the look for a "silent Strat" and it came down to the Comanche and PRS NF3. I loved both of them even though they sounded quite different, but both checked all the boxes for me. It finally came down to weight and the PRS was over a pound lighter so that's the one that came home with me. No regrets to this day, but I could still see getting a Comanche if the weight and the price were right.
@joermnyc
@joermnyc 28 күн бұрын
The MFD pickups are built like P-90s, but designed to sound like tele (ASAT classic), strat (S-500) and now jazzmaster (Doheny) pickups. However they have more output, so if you ever wanted Fender pickups to be louder, check out G&L.
@happygster922
@happygster922 27 күн бұрын
They are definitely louder 😂
@Robstafarian
@Robstafarian 24 күн бұрын
None of the MFD pickups is built like P90. The MFD pickups have a bar magnet underneath each coil which is magnetized on the vertical axis (rather than the lateral axis as in P90 and humbucker bar magnets): they get their volume from their flux density and their treble extension from their low winds. You can see the basic structure in US Patent 4,220,069 granted to C. Leo Fender on September 2, 1980.
@johngraves2185
@johngraves2185 28 күн бұрын
I have a Legacy Special in the same honey burst as the one you’re playing and it’s awesome! As others have mentioned, G&L has all of the things Leo wanted to change about the Strat and Tele, implemented into these guitars. They rock!
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 21 күн бұрын
I like the bass cut circuit enough to have built one for myself. I reversed the position of the Treble and Bass knobs though, as I'm using a push-pull pot in the Treble spot as my Expander switch. (Well sort of, it just brings in the neck pickup regardless of the 5-way setting so sometimes it has no effect.) Finding a C-taper 1M pot for the bass control was hard enough, they don't seem to exist in push-pull configuration. B-taper 250k pots on the other hand (which is what the Treble bleed uses) are widely available with push-pull switches in them. I want the sticky-outy knob as far from my right hand as possible so the treble goes in the bottom slot and the bass goes in the middle.
@Ottophil
@Ottophil 28 күн бұрын
I played on of these in colorado in 1998, i totally forgot. But it was z coils for sure. That guitar sounded good to my very untrained ears. Id love to try one again
@mtguitar5150
@mtguitar5150 28 күн бұрын
I never tried one but the bass knob might be good for cleaning up mud or just sharper attack when needed. Maybe I'll wire one up on one of my lying around guitars
@ethanhitchcock5431
@ethanhitchcock5431 28 күн бұрын
I had a Comanche years ago , mine had a Butterscotch finish , Rosewood neck , & black pickguard w/black Z-coils , and I ended up trading it for something else...for what I cant remember ..then I probably traded that too ! I got mine for the same reason , I had to hear those strange/cool looking pickups ! Thanks !
@utahprepper8925
@utahprepper8925 27 күн бұрын
I've had my ASAT Classic for 20 years or so. I love it. It's better built than any Fender I've ever owned.
@jasonalmgren3050
@jasonalmgren3050 28 күн бұрын
I have a tribute series limited edition Commanche. I love it. What a fun guitar to play.
@LocrianDorian
@LocrianDorian 27 күн бұрын
Always loved the Comanche, those pickups just look too cool, man, and it's a great design. Not a big fan of the G&L headstock but for this guitar it looks right.
@danielparsonsmusic
@danielparsonsmusic 6 күн бұрын
A few years ago I bought a secondhand Tribute S-500 (import, made in Korea) and while it didn’t have the Z coils it did have the same switching and tone controls. One of the best used guitars I ever bought - I especially loved the bass control. To my ears, it dialled in a sound reminiscent of “Long Cool Woman” by the Hollies
@ethanhitchcock5431
@ethanhitchcock5431 28 күн бұрын
Im curious about the ' Blues Boy ' too !
@theoversouls
@theoversouls 27 күн бұрын
Every G&L I've ever picked up were ridiculously heavy (for me, anyway).
@TheRCAirMarshall
@TheRCAirMarshall 27 күн бұрын
About a year ago I went on a quest to find a core PRS Silver Sky. Found one, went to play it, and it was sitting next to a Fullerton made G&L S-500. I knew the history of G&L, but had never played one. Just for kicks I got it off the wall and played it as well… I went home with an S-500 that day instead of a Silver Sky. It’s the best playing, best feeling, best sounding strat I’ve ever played. The fretwork is outstanding, and the tonal versatility is also fantastic. Someone else mentioned and I’ll say again, these MFD pickups are HOT and very responsive. The volume knob alone can take you from 60’s vintage sounds to a modern single coil sizzle. Love the S-500, best Strat Leo ever released.
@michaelmenkes7233
@michaelmenkes7233 27 күн бұрын
The Silver Sky is intentionally not versatile. John Mayer was copying an old Strat with really really low output pickups which are useless for anything but being John Mayer.
@TheRCAirMarshall
@TheRCAirMarshall 24 күн бұрын
@@michaelmenkes7233 that’s a really good point. Thanks for the comment. 👍
@michaelmenkes7233
@michaelmenkes7233 24 күн бұрын
@@TheRCAirMarshall no problem. The counter would be that G&L finishes might be seen as rudimentary compared to a USA made Silver Sky, but G&L pickups are amazing. Any HH model will have coil splits and the BTS system and get you a range of classic Fender tones as well as a a very good humbucker tone
@TheRCAirMarshall
@TheRCAirMarshall 24 күн бұрын
@@michaelmenkes7233 I dunno about that. I have 2 G&L’s, an S-500 in this deep transparent red, looks fantastic. And an L-2000 bass in metallic blue that’s also pretty sweet looking. They aren’t the awesome dyed finished you’d find on a PRS, but they’re certainly as good as any Fender I’ve seen, maybe a Custom Shop fender, but I am not a fan of relicing and it seems that’s the only thing the Fender CS is putting out these days
@michaelmenkes7233
@michaelmenkes7233 23 күн бұрын
@@TheRCAirMarshall I love their finishes, but they don't often do the crazy quilt top bursts or throw on flamed maple necks. I have a tangerine sparkle Comanche, a seafoam Skyhawk HH, and a Tribute Kiloton fretless bass with a sunburst over ash veneer. Love all three, but they don't try to compete with my Music Man BFR Cutlass in charcoal sparkle burst with the matching headstock and the crazy flame maple neck in the looks department. I think PRS looks like an 80's pimp hanging with his 50 something cougar entourage after several sleepness nights binging on coke. G&L looks like a guitar.
@thelastscarecrow6701
@thelastscarecrow6701 27 күн бұрын
Backing off the volume a bit and messing with the bass and treble will get you closer to a strat sound, but not all the way there. If you want a Strat, get the Legacy.
@THEScottCampbell
@THEScottCampbell 14 күн бұрын
Those pickups were on mid-60's Fenders. They were also on some Japanese guitars in the late 60's and early 70's. The Seth Lover humbuckers of the early 70's did the same thing but in a standard humbucker housing. It's basically the same thing as a Fender Precision pickup.
@gavitorres-olivares
@gavitorres-olivares 28 күн бұрын
I have a fender strat and a g and l Fullerton deluxe. Both from Corona California 40 years apart. Both amazing I use them both for work everyday
@yachinyphotography
@yachinyphotography 27 күн бұрын
U can find the same 63 strat tone of your fender with that Comanche if u take the time to adjust the bass tones by reducing it. And with different woods. G&l uses some..
@j-day
@j-day 18 күн бұрын
I have the Tribute ASAT Deluxe model which I love. Two splittable humbuckers - get a lot of sounds out of it, and G&L's locking saddle bridge. All I have done is upgrade the nut to bone.
@StylishJet91697
@StylishJet91697 27 күн бұрын
@RobertBakerGuitar I fell in love with a G&L Comanche but I haven’t run into one in over a year. Maple neck in Olympic white. I don’t love gloss necks because I have hot/sweaty hands, but this guitar sounded like glass to me and the feel was thicker but seemingly easy to play on. Nothing like anything else I’ve ever played.
@jasperchance3382
@jasperchance3382 23 күн бұрын
the three pups together really are superb sounding in that G&L
@joesalyers
@joesalyers 16 күн бұрын
I bought a Comanche back in 1999 and it was the most expensive guitar I ever bought at the time. I always like the strat body but single coil made it sound weak but a humbucker or P90 was always too much and the Z pickups were a perfect in between that makes this the Ultimate Stratocaster. Sadly my Comanche was lost in a house fire back in 2004 but I loved it and I'm glad that it has survived after all these years!
@ThePeoplesFabricator
@ThePeoplesFabricator 28 күн бұрын
Gorgeous guitar
@christophervincent8420
@christophervincent8420 28 күн бұрын
Yeah, I played that G&L before. It is really good too. But that one looks exceptional. Eye candy
@Somethingfromtimmy
@Somethingfromtimmy 28 күн бұрын
Jake from Umphreys McGee plays the exact one, they are epic! Got to get my hands on one someday
@insearchoftone9602
@insearchoftone9602 26 күн бұрын
I like that the g&l sounded a lot punchier but bot necessarily brighter. Like it had the same ki d of tone feel but more clarity.
@dougfa3515
@dougfa3515 27 күн бұрын
Beautiful finish!
@ozarkgrandprix5482
@ozarkgrandprix5482 27 күн бұрын
If you like pure single coils the S500 or the Skyhawk may be a good fit, my tribute S500 became my favorite guitar immediately when I brought it home. The MFD pickups plus the PTB system just opens everything up
@erickmartin5667
@erickmartin5667 28 күн бұрын
G&L. George Fuller and Leo Fender. The USA models are fantastic
@sandyturner1911
@sandyturner1911 28 күн бұрын
I wish I had gotten one of these, before they got so expensive. I've always liked them.
@MattMunyon
@MattMunyon 27 күн бұрын
I love the channel and your take on guitars, licks, and playing styles. I never thought about it until this video that you hadn’t ventured into G&L guitars yet. I bought a G&L Comanche with the Z coils like the one you demoed, but mine was a ‘build to order’ from a local G&L distributor and the body wood selected was Okoume. You should give that variant a try if you can. With the Okoume body, the guitar weighs 7 lb 10oz, a full pound lighter than my Player Series Stratocaster, and it sounds fantastic.
@johnfox2727
@johnfox2727 27 күн бұрын
My first guitar was a G&L ASAT special that I brought 20 years ago. Still got it and it sounds great as a slide guitar.
@jvin248
@jvin248 28 күн бұрын
Get the G&L Espanada! Also, have you tried any Reverend Guitars on the channel?
@user-oy7gz5bf2h
@user-oy7gz5bf2h 21 күн бұрын
I LOVE the treble tone knob! It's way easier for me to balance pickups. I used to shy away from the bridge pickup. Now, I can set up a fat bridge tone, but cut through in any other position with a turn of the knob. Both tone controls are interactive. It's a great problem solving tool.
@markcollins3424
@markcollins3424 27 күн бұрын
Love my USA commanche, and love the z-coils. Super versitale. Can sound very strat-ish with height adjustment (move the pole pieces up), and the bass tone control is great for dialing back flub in the neck.
@bjornd9375
@bjornd9375 14 күн бұрын
One of the secrets behind Purple Rain: Wendy played the famous 4 chords with her Rickenbacher330, and she had replaced the pickups with G&L pickups, maybe the big ones from the ASAT
@sirbergersworth
@sirbergersworth 27 күн бұрын
The bass knob is essential with z-coils. They have much more low end than standard humbuckers.
28 күн бұрын
I've had a G&L Fallout for several years now. A true rock machine you should try.
@Scoots1994
@Scoots1994 20 күн бұрын
Because the pole pieces are adjustable you can bring up the power and clarity of the bass strings on the guitar to change the tone.
@bradpirochta9293
@bradpirochta9293 19 күн бұрын
I love the tone knobs. If you cut out the bass, you can almost get a tele sound.
@michaelsmith2785
@michaelsmith2785 27 күн бұрын
Really nice wood/finish on the G&L.
@boogerz
@boogerz 27 күн бұрын
I've always been intrigued by these and the asat special since both have unique looking pickups
@frankie5072
@frankie5072 27 күн бұрын
Not only the pickups being different but also the fretboard wood makes a difference as well.
@PaulCooksStuff
@PaulCooksStuff 28 күн бұрын
8:08 "recommendations for other g+l's I should check out" If you enjoy a Tele with a little bit more snarl its worth trying the G+L with MFD single coils. Not ground breakingly different, you could put hot pups in any Tele, but its worth checking out to satisfy curiousity.
@RobertBakerGuitar
@RobertBakerGuitar 28 күн бұрын
Thanks Paul
@DoppelgangerShockwave
@DoppelgangerShockwave 21 күн бұрын
Here's one other thing you missed, Robert. The pole pieces on the z-Pickups are adjustable, giving you more customization of the overall sound of your guitar.
@SisterRose
@SisterRose 25 күн бұрын
The G&L Jazzmaster style guitars are kind of my dream guitars. I love the look of the Jazzbucker type pickups and they come in great colours
@travismiller7679
@travismiller7679 27 күн бұрын
The strat had that strat spank to it where the g&l had a more balanced contemporary tone to it. Both are great, but for different situations.
@duaneegeberg9879
@duaneegeberg9879 28 күн бұрын
Leo also made magnetic design pick-ups I'm a fan
@MastaFrank01
@MastaFrank01 22 күн бұрын
It seems everyone and their grandma has made a comment on the PTB circuit so here's my 2 cents. I wrote T(Treble) on the middle knob. Then I drew a (-) sign with a curved (->) going clockwise pointing to a (+). I pretty much always leave this one at 10. Anything less has too much treble for my setup and tastes in most cases. The 2nd tone knob I wrote B(Bass) along with the aforementioned symbols (-, ->, +) again. For me it's way too bass heavy with rhythm playing so I almost always leave that at 5 or less when playing a verse and chorus. However, when I go to solo I will crank it up a bit to around 8-10 in most cases. This is the best way I have found to use the system for me. The nomenclature may not be 100% correct, but I understand it which is all that matters. I love tinkering with it at home, but in most live settings I've encountered I just want something that is ready to go without a lot of Jeff Beck-esq tone fiddling and fuss. That goes for my entire rig as well. I don't have time to fiddle with equipment when I'm putting on a show as I'm usually pretty active when playing live.
@bluwng
@bluwng 27 күн бұрын
The G&L is a cool versatile luxury sports car and the Fender is like an extremely cool classic muscle car.
@Krullmatic
@Krullmatic 27 күн бұрын
I've got a Player Plus with the noiseless pickups, and while they sound alright, I like the regular single coils I compared it with my regular Player Strat, and the regular neck single coils had that very familiar Strat sound, while the noiseless kinda does, it just doesn't have that brightness.
@brendancleary9490
@brendancleary9490 28 күн бұрын
I have a G&L Legacy(strat) that i absolutely love and i also have a G&L JB(jazz bass) that's an amazing bass. The Legacy has the same master treble and bass tone knobs and i prefer that over a typical strat
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