Ferrari 488 GTB vs Porsche 911 Turbo S: turbo supercars fight it out

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@jdclover
@jdclover 8 жыл бұрын
I looked at both these but, in the final analysis, went with the used Fiat Panda option.
@ICEMAN-lo2bk
@ICEMAN-lo2bk 8 жыл бұрын
+jdclover Think I found James May's KZbin account. Only person in the world who would choose a Panda over a Ferrari.
@SparkySlow
@SparkySlow 6 жыл бұрын
jdclover me too a Dacia duster
@miguelberetta7887
@miguelberetta7887 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect decision
@MrYoumitube
@MrYoumitube 8 жыл бұрын
This is a easy decision, get both cars. I would use the Turbo S as my everyday car Mon to Fri, then on weekends use the Ferrari. Now all I need is the money.
@888mf4
@888mf4 7 жыл бұрын
I think that most people with a 488GTB have a daily car like a Range Rover or Porsche 911. The Ferrari is a weekend car as you've suggested whereas the 911 can be used daily. However, the Ferrari offers more thrills and looks way better.
@mashedt8rs290
@mashedt8rs290 7 жыл бұрын
i don't get rich people and range rovers they are just over priced jeeps if i were rich i would go for a nice 4 door Mercedes or BMW it just makes a lot more sense
@alexkafr
@alexkafr 6 жыл бұрын
MaSHED T8RS I had BMW and Mercedes and I can tell you the maintenance cost isn't worth it. And you need a lot of maintenance for those brands.
@SicoSniper
@SicoSniper 6 жыл бұрын
Trust me...Land Rover is worse than those brand when it comes to maintenance..
@exoticwhipsbroadspipesandbags
@exoticwhipsbroadspipesandbags 5 жыл бұрын
SicoSniper1912 Lexus IS very reliable
@imgonnaruletheworld
@imgonnaruletheworld 8 жыл бұрын
misleading title... was expecting both cars being put against each other on the road, not under the perspective of two journalists...
@AyaxRo
@AyaxRo 8 жыл бұрын
+Mohammad Alqarawi Completely lol... "Fight it out" ...
@anish11215
@anish11215 8 жыл бұрын
^^
@MrPaganizonda
@MrPaganizonda 8 жыл бұрын
I love honest quality perspective with quality content rather than boring drag race, those cars are not evo vs sti where u can simply just show the numbers and time to prove which are better.
@jesuscrust6043
@jesuscrust6043 8 жыл бұрын
don't worry, we are all in the same boat
@motomanb2
@motomanb2 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up
@siraff4461
@siraff4461 8 жыл бұрын
Buy the Porsche, rent the Ferrari.
@ХвърчилХвърчилков
@ХвърчилХвърчилков 4 жыл бұрын
Nope..Ferrari...
@alexandrefernandes9233
@alexandrefernandes9233 8 жыл бұрын
Well... in the Porsche you can take 3 girls!
@alipapito2467
@alipapito2467 8 жыл бұрын
So why not?
@enthused7591
@enthused7591 8 жыл бұрын
You can in the Ferrari as well, you'll just be forced to be more creative with the packaging. I'll take the 488GTB
@alexandrefernandes9233
@alexandrefernandes9233 8 жыл бұрын
Legal transport... LOL
@billystutz55
@billystutz55 8 жыл бұрын
I like your style!
@johnulmerRacing
@johnulmerRacing 8 жыл бұрын
Two of them would have to be sans legs.
@VossenWheels
@VossenWheels 8 жыл бұрын
Both are just stunning....
@julianob.a.6365
@julianob.a.6365 8 жыл бұрын
I'm a Porsche guy, but I have to tell, the 488 is gorgeous.
@NuclearGrizzly
@NuclearGrizzly 8 жыл бұрын
As an engineer I could never own a car from a marquis who's motto is "If you can afford the car you can afford the repairs and maintenance". Probably why I own three 911's.
@Dgannt
@Dgannt 8 жыл бұрын
+NuclearGrizzly So I guess the motto didn't scare you. I assume as an engineer you feel brave enough to buy three 911's as long as you can fix all the problems yourself. If you get tired of that, sell all 3 and buy a real sports car, a Ferrari. The repairs will end and you only smile :)
@NuclearGrizzly
@NuclearGrizzly 8 жыл бұрын
Fast Er My '73 is heavily modified and still reliable. My '97 Turbo S has nearly 200k on the clock and never left me stranded. My '15 Turbo S has also been fantastic. I had a '11 Turbo S that was OK. But of course not nearly as bad as anything ever made in Italy. Unlike Ferrari Porsche takes care of recalls as soon as there is a problem. Unlike Ferrari that took years to admit that their 458 occasionally would burst into flames. I owned a 360...or as i knew it the money pit. It was beautiful garbage. I've lost track of how many times I've picked up or dropped off my former business partner at the Ferrari dealership (in my 911 of course) for a repair on his POS 458. This is his second 458 and both have been beautiful garbage. I see my mechanic once a year. I see his every couple of months. And each time I hear "If you can afford the car you can afford the repairs and maintenance".
@aristosachaion_
@aristosachaion_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@Dgannt "The repairs will end" No they won't. 911s don't need repairs because they never break.
@NuclearGrizzly
@NuclearGrizzly 4 жыл бұрын
@Aykut I still have all three of my 911's. In these past 4 years I have had zero break downs and only regular maintenance. The only thing major was that I had to clean the SAI on the '97. Something that has to be done every 20k-30k miles. In the past 4 years my cost of ownership for all three has probably been less than what a Ferrari owner pays for a single 3 year service.
@Vincent_Gambini
@Vincent_Gambini 8 жыл бұрын
I would take both of them. They are both equally exceptional road cars in their own right, the 911 for is stunning Swiss watch engineering excellence; the Ferrari for it passionate, stunning beauty, its sheer modern-day automotive brilliance, and its unique and joyous driving experience.
@w-james9277
@w-james9277 8 жыл бұрын
I'll take the Ferrari please.
@o3tomas
@o3tomas 8 жыл бұрын
The presenter is right. If I drove the porsche blindfolded I wouldn't be able to tell it's turbocharged. I doubt I would make it to any conclusion before I hit a lamp post.
@morelelfrancel6603
@morelelfrancel6603 7 жыл бұрын
Sarcasm
@SteveC-Shaman
@SteveC-Shaman 7 жыл бұрын
Actually, he's full of shit. The turbos are VERY obvious. Tip the throttle in just that extra little bit, the wastegate closes and the car kicks you in the small of the back suddenly. It's not exactly lag, it's more like when you ask for more than the motor can give on its own, the turbos make it very plain that there's plenty of boost available, in the language of violence.
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 8 жыл бұрын
"I can't think of a single reason why you'd ever want to go faster than this" I'm pretty sure in 1-2 years time, there will be another Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche etc... that will change your opinion.
@patfromozZ
@patfromozZ 8 жыл бұрын
+Alan Bowers Yep.....and if you look back to old reviews on the 458, 430 etc. I bet they all say the same thing.
@Jirinoshi
@Jirinoshi 8 жыл бұрын
+Alan Bowers Exactly, and if he doesnt want to ever go any faster than that, then he should get a camry.
@MrRedRye
@MrRedRye 8 жыл бұрын
I'll take the Porsche and the £35k thanks, more my style and less showy.
@dk6403
@dk6403 7 жыл бұрын
If I could afford the 488, £35k is nothing. I'd buy both cars if I were that wealthy.
@deano3206
@deano3206 6 жыл бұрын
The main reason I bought the 991 TS due to the latter
@atticus6572
@atticus6572 8 жыл бұрын
I'd take the 911. Hopefully I'll be able to afford one in 10-15 years time.
@AdoIf88HitIer
@AdoIf88HitIer 8 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@AdoIf88HitIer
@AdoIf88HitIer 8 жыл бұрын
WHY DO YOU LAUGH? HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAA IM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SOORRRRRRYYYYYYYY HAHAHAHAHAHA
@ziggyfreud5357
@ziggyfreud5357 5 жыл бұрын
Go for it Atticus. Get to the dream. I had to wait 25 yrs !!
@ConstantineJoseph
@ConstantineJoseph 8 жыл бұрын
Ferrari for me
@AhmedMagomedov93
@AhmedMagomedov93 8 жыл бұрын
Turbo S
@khunopie9159
@khunopie9159 8 жыл бұрын
+Ахмед Магомедов In Soviet Russia Union, car choose YOU
@Dgannt
@Dgannt 8 жыл бұрын
+Ахмед Магомедов Yes, as your daily. 488 GTB as your special sports car to excite you.
@TheFede8888
@TheFede8888 8 жыл бұрын
Good car...but.....not this time
@zissou6928
@zissou6928 7 жыл бұрын
It's obvious you havent been in either
@deano3206
@deano3206 6 жыл бұрын
I have the 991 TS but would still like the 488 too!
@minatureone
@minatureone 8 жыл бұрын
My brain says turbo S however heart says raari? Hmm
@alessandrob8507
@alessandrob8507 8 жыл бұрын
+Jack cooper it's FERRARI for christ sake
@mikey_fixed
@mikey_fixed 8 жыл бұрын
Haha I was thinking the same thing, I drive a 997 911 GTS... and I still say rarri too
@adrianlee2357
@adrianlee2357 8 жыл бұрын
Just buy both
@MrElnuno
@MrElnuno 8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Da Re. Glad I'm not alone. I drive a 997.2 4S and I'd have that 488GTB every day. Fells like cheating on your wife a bit, but I thinks it's gorgeous.
@zatharos6427
@zatharos6427 8 жыл бұрын
No. Say Ferrari properly it dont say it at all
@tonydmty1234567
@tonydmty1234567 8 жыл бұрын
More Steve Sutcliffe videos, period! ":-)
@Zemjang
@Zemjang 8 жыл бұрын
Beautiful vid. Will take the Porsche. Thanks. :-)
@dubai0097150
@dubai0097150 8 жыл бұрын
is this based on opinion ? put them on a track and lets see what the Ferrari got , but if its about everyday practicality and overall daily usibility the best supercar for daily use is well known to be the 991 turbo S .
@masterp-lw2dg
@masterp-lw2dg 7 жыл бұрын
my heart when he changes gear in that ferrari. the emotional experience is more than falling in love.
@tuta123seb
@tuta123seb 8 жыл бұрын
Im not a fan of porsche's simplistic design,i mean i love how it looks but it's not gorgeous like a mclaren,ferrari,lambos ETC
@FearTheBlades
@FearTheBlades 7 жыл бұрын
It's an acquired taste
@skylerssupercarlife348
@skylerssupercarlife348 5 жыл бұрын
It gives you the option of having all of the exotic supercar fun with none of the attention.
@aristosachaion_
@aristosachaion_ 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't care less about the attention, but I'm very much a fan of my $300,000 car not breaking down.
@fedegrass
@fedegrass 8 жыл бұрын
Yes of course Porsche 911 turbo s is a nice car...But it's nicer to see it through Ferrari's mirror =D Ferrari is the Supercar !!!
@tykara3404
@tykara3404 7 жыл бұрын
fede grass lol turbo is much faster
@atomevo1984
@atomevo1984 6 жыл бұрын
The Porsche is the Gentlemen of the Supercars. BUT: The Turbo S always brings his power and performance on the asphalt, all year round in every season.
@16h46
@16h46 6 жыл бұрын
fede grass turbo s better
@mehdiadlany
@mehdiadlany 8 жыл бұрын
Amazing review by two amazing reviewers. Thank you, gentlemen. I'd pick the Porsche 911 Turbo S in a heartbeat for its power and its understated design.
@xXDigitalLeoXx
@xXDigitalLeoXx 8 жыл бұрын
Can I get both? Hell I'd be happy if I ever got one of them.
@gattaca7965
@gattaca7965 8 жыл бұрын
If you'd have enough money to buy either one of those cars then who in their right mind would buy that boring porshe lol? I mean seriously. The Ferrari 488 GTB is a proper supercar and it's just completely on another level in every aspect, the looks, the sound, the performance...everything is just perfect. Ferrari 488 GTB for me please!
@marconico
@marconico 8 жыл бұрын
I hate hearing people talk about usability when talking about supercars.
@xI2aiizza
@xI2aiizza 8 жыл бұрын
feel free to use a viper acr as your daily then :)
@thepineappleburster4439
@thepineappleburster4439 8 жыл бұрын
Well, not every person who buys a supercar can afford to buy an impracticle one and a comfortable one. Just sayin
@aristosachaion_
@aristosachaion_ 4 жыл бұрын
"If you can afford the car, you can afford the maintenance" is a dumbass statement to live by.
@marconico
@marconico 4 жыл бұрын
@@aristosachaion_ totally agree.
@johnlearoux
@johnlearoux 8 жыл бұрын
funny how if some one were to say "i would rather have a 911 tubo than a 488" everyone would be like "oh so would i" and praise the commentor, but if someone were to say "i would rather have a Z06 than a 488" floods of Europeans would swarm in and tell you how wrong you are and how inferior the z06 is, how closed minded of people.
@GranDaddo
@GranDaddo 8 жыл бұрын
+john learoux I think that will change once Corvette will make bigger numbers in EU. Im not fan of US interior styling, but I do admire progress they have made from C6 onwards and kicking EU ass from time to time. Like in many examples, EU cars tend to be coky and smuggish resulting you getting less for money and bigger revenue for them. We need to praise more US cars to actually get more from our cars in future.
@stevehash158
@stevehash158 8 жыл бұрын
+Reptilius Maximus LOL what do you have a in USA?? fastest car in the world emn no quickest car in the world NO fastest around corners NO best intrerior NO NO NO.. YOu got nothing except makeing cheap cars ONLY IN USA doh in Europe a C7 vette is the same price as Turbo S-488-458-lambo-maclaren etc etc.. So you make cheap cars in USA that works great no doubt but you are so far off on anything in EU that`s scary.. The reason for this is that no company has the balls to go against the American ppl and start to make expensive cars of course this means more expensive cars and thats where the Achilles heel is...
@oldschoolracinggames5729
@oldschoolracinggames5729 8 жыл бұрын
+john learoux american cars are shit. so shut up and drive your fucking corvettes and vipers.
@griimey7787
@griimey7787 8 жыл бұрын
Im American and Id rather have a 488 than a C7 Z06. You gotta think about it, a Corvette is worth a lot of money. Especially a Z06 which can be what around $80K-$90K. But a lot of people can acquire a Corvette with a lot of hard work and a good paying job. You dont have to be rich to get one basically. Now a Ferrari on the hand which costs $200K-$300K, you gotta be rich and even for most mid class people that would be too far outta reach or just out of the budget. You might be able to get an older Ferrari but a newer one would cost a lot plus all the expenses after buying it. I agree that the Z06 is a world class supercar for performance but if someone gave me the option between the two id take the 488. If it was my money and i was making a decent amount id get a Vette or a Viper. If was filthy rich id get them all haha!
@stevehash158
@stevehash158 8 жыл бұрын
+griimey Yess but thats what i said they work in USA and tey`re cheap there but not in EU.. So you get bang for your buck... IN EU they`re not good laptimes wise of course they do good in USA thats LOL... in EU and the rest of the world it`s no better then a Gallardo 507bhp V10..
@hendradi3031
@hendradi3031 8 жыл бұрын
Vote for 488 GTB.
@fearedlegend
@fearedlegend 6 жыл бұрын
Great review by the best presenter. I really respect this man’s opinion. The Turbo S takes no crap from any car. It’s the standard by which all other super cars are measured by.
@hovnojede010101
@hovnojede010101 8 жыл бұрын
If I had to have only one car for everything, I'd get the Turbo. Magnificent. Good vid, too, guys.
@slaWterCH
@slaWterCH 8 жыл бұрын
I'd have the Porsche. I want a car to drive, not to look at and worry about the milage. Both brands have better, non-turboed models however.
@ionianfalcon
@ionianfalcon 8 жыл бұрын
you are going to worry about the Porsche milage as well. Its also a very expensive car like the Ferrari...
@JoJoJoker
@JoJoJoker 8 жыл бұрын
+ionianfalcon Ferrari owners are very weird about mileage & color. That's why they are all in the same ugly Ferrari red with 3,000 miles than something in an interesting color like say, Dino Rosso with 30,000 miles.
@ionianfalcon
@ionianfalcon 8 жыл бұрын
+Abe From an cant argue with that. Im just saying that both cars are expensive which means that even the porche owners are going to be cautious about the milage.
@SenszR
@SenszR 8 жыл бұрын
+ionianfalcon Well no, you wouldn't worry about mileage as much with the Porsche. You don't worry about the mileage just because "the car is expensive".
@DreamyWoIf
@DreamyWoIf 8 жыл бұрын
If one has money to buy a car like this 911, or 488, then the mileage is one of last thins on their mind.
@noticiasdeultimahora8290
@noticiasdeultimahora8290 8 жыл бұрын
The way these guys talk, a lot of suspense hahaha, love it, Great video
@Bugumir
@Bugumir 8 жыл бұрын
I'd take a second hand 458 over these compromised supercars any day of the week.
@roskataqv
@roskataqv 8 жыл бұрын
+Bugumir +1
@fatdoi003
@fatdoi003 8 жыл бұрын
+Bugumir 458 speciale please
@HexaSquirrel
@HexaSquirrel 8 жыл бұрын
"Compromised" is what way is a 911 Turbo S "Compromised"?
@fatdoi003
@fatdoi003 8 жыл бұрын
Daniels30 maybe is the rear engine layout
@zatharos6427
@zatharos6427 8 жыл бұрын
The 911 Turbo is not comprised. Thats the Carrera. As for the 488, that takes the cake
@r_starchild2157
@r_starchild2157 8 жыл бұрын
This was not a REVIEW, it was just super bias opinions on the Ferrari and a stat sheet for the Porsche. Just wrong.
@VirusTornado
@VirusTornado 8 жыл бұрын
+Anthony Adams Sutcliffe did a great job, other guy nah
@stevensnow8851
@stevensnow8851 8 жыл бұрын
Anyone who would rather have the Porsche is lying to themselves
@carlitoxb110
@carlitoxb110 8 жыл бұрын
Not me
@kraenk12
@kraenk12 8 жыл бұрын
Not everyone is a show off
@stevensnow8851
@stevensnow8851 8 жыл бұрын
+kraenk12 if both cars were parked right in front of you, I'm sure you would think twice about picking the Porsche
@ikarugaxx3749
@ikarugaxx3749 6 жыл бұрын
@@stevensnow8851 Yes indeed. Those rare times I meet a Ferrari I feel if I won a lottery that day, I couldn't resist buying one the day after. The Porsche has less of such an effect. The Porsche, you admire. The Ferrari, you love. This is hiw beauty affects us.
@SupercarAdvocates
@SupercarAdvocates 8 жыл бұрын
Which one? Ferrari for sure...!!!
@16h46
@16h46 6 жыл бұрын
Supercar Advocates nah Porsche.
@Damayn
@Damayn 8 жыл бұрын
I'd go for the Ferrari hands down as it's just a touch more special and the Porsche however is just well a 'Porsche' just doesn't have that wow factor like the Ferrari does imo..
@chele089
@chele089 8 жыл бұрын
It might not have the wow factor when you look at it. But after driving them back to back you will have your wow-factor handed to you by the Turbos speed.
@MNMaveRick
@MNMaveRick 8 жыл бұрын
Which turbo? They are both turbos, which means neither will ever sound as good as a normally aspirated engine and a Porsche 6 cylinder will never sound like a Ferrari, even the subdued turbo. They both perform great, so it comes down to wow factor and a Ferrari never has its wow factor handed to it, while the 911 continues to be the same stretched out Beatle it has always been.
@chele089
@chele089 8 жыл бұрын
Rick Pihl Well one of these cars is actually called 'Turbo' so it is obvious which car I'm reffering to. Besides that, the Porsche is faster than the Ferrari in every measurable instance. Objectively the Porsche is the better car. If you base your car buying decision soley on looks and sound you just buy to show off. If thats the case, the Ferrari will definatly fit you better. I'm not saying the Ferrari is slow, or even a bad car because it is simply not. But the Porsche is just faster.
@MNMaveRick
@MNMaveRick 8 жыл бұрын
To say the Porsche is somehow measurably faster is to count tenths of seconds that will never change the experience of the lighter feel of the Ferrari compared to the heavy feel of the 911. No real world test will favor either cars performance in any major way, it comes down to the driver in every case. Objectively, they are too close to call in performance and the difference is not enough to choose the ugly 911 over the Italian piece of art and yes, the sound makes all the difference in the world and the 911 sounds like a vacuum cleaner. I will say that the turbo has also ruined the Ferrari compared to the 458, but not nearly as much as how the turbo compromises the flat six.
@chele089
@chele089 8 жыл бұрын
Rick Pihl You're a little biased I think. The Porsche is not ugly but it doesn't try to be a beauty queen either. You're right, the Ferrari is pretty. But the Porsche follows one simple philosophy wich is form follows function. And if you think about it, that makes a lot of sense. Ever sat in a 911? The dropping hood in the front and the realtively big windows give such good visibility, especially on track. Also, Porsches all-wheel-drive system allows the 911 Turbo to reach up to its full potential come rain or shine. The Ferrari is a nice second car but the Porsche is a first car, one that one drives every day. You also gotta take into account that the Turbo is Porsches Grand Tourismo type 911, layed out for Autobahn comfort and sheer speed. If you want a raw car from Porsche, buy a GT3 (RS). And that one provides plenty of lovely sounds.
@jskikkimb9419
@jskikkimb9419 8 жыл бұрын
I love these watching Steve review cars. He is excellent, and conveys the experience thoroughly.
@JMartinni
@JMartinni 8 жыл бұрын
Porsche really needs to make a new GT2/GT2 RS
@DaZe8014
@DaZe8014 8 жыл бұрын
+J. Martinni There will be a 991.2 GT2!
@JMartinni
@JMartinni 8 жыл бұрын
+Jordan Probably, yeah. There are prototypes/mules driving around. They just need to finally put it in production.
@stevehash158
@stevehash158 8 жыл бұрын
+J. Martinni YESS i agree this is getting to heavy to compete they need a GT2RS and it`s comming ohh YESS it`ll arrive in 2017 or 2018 so we have somthing to look forward to and i am guessing it`ll be a killer... GTRS class thank god and the new 911Rand GT4 CAyman actually they`re doing quite a bit for customers LIKE ME tthat want REAL carswith fewer electronics 6 speed light chassie ohh thats whats sports car should be about.. But POrsche know what they do they make a different car for every needs who else can we say that about?? being a sportscar buis=?? i can`t think of one brand..
@marcelk3847
@marcelk3847 5 жыл бұрын
And they did
@AGC828
@AGC828 7 жыл бұрын
Reviewers call the Turbo S "..the everyday supercar". Which to me is an oxymoron. How can a supercar be driven everyday? :) Supercars are supposed to do one thing well...go FAST and handle with precision. Not to be comfortable on less than perfect roads. The Turbo S is a GT car that does most things well if not better than most. But it lacks the "experience & sex appeal" of the 488. I think a 1st time driver of the Turbo S would leave the Turbo S impressed and with a small grin. He would leave the 488 wanting to smoke a cigarette. :))) If you had to choose ONE car to own. If you could only choose ONE dream car to put on your bucket list. You had days to live...I think the clear choice would be the 488 GTB. :)
@alexandrefernandes9233
@alexandrefernandes9233 8 жыл бұрын
If passion drive you, go to the Ferrari. If rationality drive you, go to the Porsche.
@chrissorreda4982
@chrissorreda4982 8 жыл бұрын
At any given time, a 911 Turbo S will always be one of the fastest car in the road. Rain or Shine.
@storck08
@storck08 8 жыл бұрын
The 488 GTB is so much more special than the Porsche that I could never take 911 Turbo S over it, altough I respect the engineering of the Turbo S very much. Porsche is a mainstream comany making few hundred thousands of cars every year, with Macans, Cayennes etc. They use Audi parts including engines, the Ferrari compared to this is a company from another planet. If I would be going to spend circa 250-300k euros on a car it has to make me feel very special so it's a 488 GTB for me.
@HexaSquirrel
@HexaSquirrel 8 жыл бұрын
Ferrari use Fiat parts... I'd rather take Audi parts than Fiat ones.
@farnum3297
@farnum3297 8 жыл бұрын
+storck08 lol.. Porsche is mainstream? for who ? for the 1% of the 1% ? last time I checked not too many people can afford 100k+ cars .. you might be confusing a preowned Cayenne V6 with a brand new 911 Turbo S.. and btw, a 911 Turbo will eat alive on daily drivabillity AND performance on track cars that are double the price from very exotic names .. speaking of exotics, what do you drive if Porsche is so mainstream ?
@storck08
@storck08 8 жыл бұрын
+far num 100k+? Macan starts at less than 55k and other cars from that price range will be added to Porsche lineup in the future years.
@WahabGoldsmith
@WahabGoldsmith 8 жыл бұрын
+storck08 They don't use audi engines, that's lamborghini
@storck08
@storck08 8 жыл бұрын
+Wahab .Goldsmith (MrTTBiggestFan) Yes, they do. V6 turbo is the engine used in Audi and in Porsche. Diesel engines used in Porsche are also from the VAG.
@mariodecristofaro9492
@mariodecristofaro9492 8 жыл бұрын
Ferrari over everything. Shouldn't be compared to the other cars.
@johnryan6658
@johnryan6658 8 жыл бұрын
+Marietto You're right because other cars are more reliable and don't set themselves on fire.
@mariodecristofaro9492
@mariodecristofaro9492 8 жыл бұрын
John Ryan Fire is the blood of Ferrari's heart. LOL
@theflanman1986
@theflanman1986 5 жыл бұрын
They wouldn’t even let people test their laferrari against mclaren and Porsche because they are cowards who knew their best car wasn’t in the same league as the 918 and P1. Cowards
@serjiang
@serjiang 8 жыл бұрын
If i spent $200k on a car, then realized for $40k more I could've bought a Ferrari. I would instantly end myself.
@GraveUypo
@GraveUypo 8 жыл бұрын
+serjiang then you'd never buy a non-ferrari car because you can get a used one for much, much less than that.
@sundew2007
@sundew2007 4 жыл бұрын
Ferrari is JUNK owned 2, now 2 Porsches, both are much faster than any Ferrari
@haseebchowdhury4307
@haseebchowdhury4307 8 жыл бұрын
it currently has 488 views......
@adityajethi7250
@adityajethi7250 8 жыл бұрын
it will eventually be 911 sometime later...lol
@haseebchowdhury4307
@haseebchowdhury4307 8 жыл бұрын
aditya jethi lol true
@DIVADNOMIS1313
@DIVADNOMIS1313 8 жыл бұрын
I'd much rather have a full spec Turbo S cabriolet, than a bog standard 488 GTB.
@webcrawler9782
@webcrawler9782 8 жыл бұрын
on the porsche the flappy pedals are on the wheel which is way better
@South4153
@South4153 8 жыл бұрын
if you'd know how to drive a car properly you'd know that you don't shift while cornering because of the weight transfer. sooo actually it's better in the ferrari where they are stationary but hey believe what you want(:
@webcrawler9782
@webcrawler9782 8 жыл бұрын
South4153 Sebastian Vettel knows how to drive a car and he said he prefers pedals on the wheel.
@South4153
@South4153 8 жыл бұрын
+coawler oz "he said he prefers them" does that make it better then? wow what a good point
@webcrawler9782
@webcrawler9782 8 жыл бұрын
South4153 his opinion is worth more than yours
@South4153
@South4153 8 жыл бұрын
+coawler oz only problem is i was talking facts not opinions. learn how to argue
@fernandofragoso4118
@fernandofragoso4118 7 жыл бұрын
Both awesome but i would pick the Ferrari. There is something in it.
@virtual_kamikase
@virtual_kamikase 7 жыл бұрын
You can trust Steve Sutcliffe, this guy has a lot of knowledge about sports cars, that's why he chose the best one!!
@Veyron640
@Veyron640 8 жыл бұрын
488 driver.. Spare me, you bloody chap...
@setle400
@setle400 8 жыл бұрын
I just love when Steve talks about cars! :D
@PKmode
@PKmode 8 жыл бұрын
Every time I hear "Porsh", I die a little inside. Have a little respect and pronounce the family name correctly.
@Giitzerland
@Giitzerland 8 жыл бұрын
I'd have no problems taking the Porsche, it's beautiful, powerful, and a genuine daily driver with class, and smile creation on tap.
@fredhassenDogtraining
@fredhassenDogtraining 8 жыл бұрын
FYI- The 'boot' of the 488 is almost twice as big as the Turbo S. You definitely got that wrong. I have a 458 and a Turbo S and EVEN the 458's boot is almost twice as big as the Turbo S. It's just a long standing wives tale.
@jermaine5073
@jermaine5073 8 жыл бұрын
porsche was getting under my skin, i can tell!!!
@FacitOmniaVoluntas.
@FacitOmniaVoluntas. 8 жыл бұрын
That Multipla though
@SilverSurferrrrrrrr
@SilverSurferrrrrrrr 8 жыл бұрын
Bruh what the fuck is up with that Multipla 😅😅😅
@asianskywalker
@asianskywalker 8 жыл бұрын
Bulletproof my arse! porsche reliability is usually towards the bottom in reliability surveys.
@asianskywalker
@asianskywalker 8 жыл бұрын
www.whatcar.com/news/honda-named-uks-reliable-used-car-manufacturer-2015/
@Dgannt
@Dgannt 8 жыл бұрын
+asianskywalker It's statements like this that made others, specially Porsche fans, to actually believe in this "perfect Porsche quality". But we know better.
@kilogone8781
@kilogone8781 8 жыл бұрын
Same thing are also happened with McLaren,Ferrari,Lambo,and other exotics...
@asianskywalker
@asianskywalker 8 жыл бұрын
true but the japanese manage to make not only fast but reliable cars too e.g Honda NSX, Toyota supra, Nissan Skyline. All have proven to they can handle high mileages without breaking down all the time.
@kraenk12
@kraenk12 8 жыл бұрын
Porsche traditionally is among the most reliable brands...especially compared to other super cars.
@888mf4
@888mf4 7 жыл бұрын
Bit of an odd road test to have two journalists testing different cars. In addition you can't really compare a 911 Turbo S to a Ferrari 488. The Porsche has a rear engine layout and 4WD. I would compare the Ferrari to another mid engined supercar like the McLaren 650S or even the new 720S. The Porsche doesn't have a direct competitor which is why it's been so successful over the years but I would say an Audi R8 comes closer as it is also 4WD and German. The R8 is also roughly the same price once its loaded with options.
@tigerinsofia
@tigerinsofia 8 жыл бұрын
The 488 is a large step backwards from the 458...sorry but the 911 Turbo S is ahead in every aspect.
@Dgannt
@Dgannt 8 жыл бұрын
+tigerinsofia In what aspects? Design? drivers car? Drama? Excitement? Agility? Special? Sorry but most people pay all that money to get a sports car that thrills them, not one that is "practical", or to use as a "daily". And something that is special and makes them feel special when driving it. Not a car that looks like any other of the 10-12 models that most can't see the difference between them. And a modern sports car that has such a harsh ride in 2016? Sure it can be used daily. For 2 days before your back gives up.
@OLIBLACK9009
@OLIBLACK9009 8 жыл бұрын
I`ve enjoyed every sec of this video, great job guys.! thank you!!
@rockinginafreeworld3256
@rockinginafreeworld3256 8 жыл бұрын
The only thing wrong with the Ferrari is you need your own break down truck.
@alexflorence3582
@alexflorence3582 8 жыл бұрын
Ferrari any time, any way, any life. Legend vs. others.
@davidef.8764
@davidef.8764 8 жыл бұрын
people say the 911 is an everyday sports car but they rarely use it as such....and it's overtly stiff ....enjoy life, get the Ferrari
@davidef.8764
@davidef.8764 8 жыл бұрын
+IIproductionsII of course u see more 911s, they make unlimited variants, start under 100k, various dealerships and production isn't capped like Ferrari. Point is although an amazing piece of engineering, it's not a Camry and if you really want to have fun behind the wheel, the Ferrari is the way to go. reliability and servicing is expensive on both
@davidef.8764
@davidef.8764 8 жыл бұрын
+IIproductionsII they aren't more reliable, they seem more reliable. older Ferraris had annoying service intervals while Porsches didn't but they've had their share of issues. You can match the sound and sense of occasion of a Ferrari. Porsche is good for a semi everyday sports cars.
@innerhammer
@innerhammer 8 жыл бұрын
+Davide F. Porsche says 70% of all the cars they have ever made is alive and kicking. I mean, from the very 1st car they made to today's cars. Now that's reliability.
@davidef.8764
@davidef.8764 8 жыл бұрын
I could argue that a Corvette is more affordable, easier to maintain, cheaper to run. These are passion cars. People tend to take care of them
@innerhammer
@innerhammer 8 жыл бұрын
I think we have way too much Corvette talk and way too much GTR talk on KZbin.
@melcanuck5951
@melcanuck5951 6 жыл бұрын
Ferrari is a supermodel. Porsche is just average for looks.
@the_freedom_quest
@the_freedom_quest 8 жыл бұрын
WHERE IS THE DRAG RACE ? Come on guys...
@mightyjoe3849
@mightyjoe3849 3 жыл бұрын
I'll take the 488 GTB all day everyday! What a gorgeous machine!
@mightyjoe3849
@mightyjoe3849 Жыл бұрын
Well......I drove both since I wrote the above. Both great machines.....for real life. I've changed my mind. I'll take the Porsche instead!
@windurst007
@windurst007 8 жыл бұрын
Ferrari nel cuore.. Ferrari forever !!
@clairebannister4749
@clairebannister4749 8 жыл бұрын
Agreed Steve - and it's not such a show off - if you had it in a grey it would beautifully discreet. A great car to hop in and drive to the south of france in on a whim.
@adrianlee2357
@adrianlee2357 8 жыл бұрын
I'll take the Porsche thanks.
@hipogresia5908
@hipogresia5908 7 жыл бұрын
Ferrari 488 GTB 0-250 km 12'9 seconds - Porsche 911 Turbo S 0-250 km 15'7 seconds 😱
@truthkeeperfilms
@truthkeeperfilms 8 жыл бұрын
Benefits of the Porsche: Endlessly more reliable. Can be used daily. Launched as much as you want. Stronger transmission.
@arnoldrocheteau4497
@arnoldrocheteau4497 8 жыл бұрын
Don't be silly, Ferrari engines are superior! transmission too!! F1 knowhow!! compared to 2nd rate races Porsche competes in! too much brainwashing by UK media I think.
@thepineappleburster4439
@thepineappleburster4439 8 жыл бұрын
+Arnold Rocheteau So, you are saying, on the internet, that LeMans and the WEC is.., a 2nd hand race franchise?? And that Ferrari is superior because of F1 experience? Well, i don't know how long ago it was Ferrari won a championship, but i can tell you that Porsche did the past years..
@truthkeeperfilms
@truthkeeperfilms 8 жыл бұрын
Arnold Rocheteau - Have you talked to a Ferrari owner? Do so, then talk about reliability. Ferrari's are NO WHERE close to a Porsche in reliability. For goodness sake, Porsche topped Lexus and Toyota for reliability a few times.
@v_alexiadis
@v_alexiadis 8 жыл бұрын
Absolutely the Ferrari.
@lazowayne
@lazowayne 8 жыл бұрын
i drove the 488 two days ago... its a fantastic and beautiful car! anyway... id take the turbo s :) its just a more practical car
@joshuawakeley217
@joshuawakeley217 8 жыл бұрын
+Mister911 cool story bra
@absolutium
@absolutium 8 жыл бұрын
It's unlikely that if you get the 488 is gonna be your only car.
@Dgannt
@Dgannt 8 жыл бұрын
+Mister911 So you take practical over beauty and excitement? In a supercar? Btw, the boot of that 488 is bigger than 911T boot. And a harsh ride is not exactly what you want in a "practical" car.
@lazowayne
@lazowayne 8 жыл бұрын
+Fast Er its my opinion. i own a 911 (997) and i can use it for almost everything. i dont think you can use the 488 every day. or... i dont think i WOULD use it every day. to be honest, the rarri is the better looking car but thats it.
@keonmartin5656
@keonmartin5656 8 жыл бұрын
+Mister911 whats ur job because i would love to afford a supercar
@immers2410
@immers2410 8 жыл бұрын
From someone who has owned both marques, there is no comparison. Ferrari makes a statement like no other, save a Lamborghini.
@sw1000xg
@sw1000xg 8 жыл бұрын
Why do they always say for special occassions when it comes to the Ferrari? So its not an everyday car then? You buy a car to drive and love. Not just to take out every now and then so on that note Ferrari loses to every car out there and IS NOT the every day car! A real stupid mentality filters through the car world!
@durrantmiller8810
@durrantmiller8810 8 жыл бұрын
+sw1000xg Because most insurance companies will only cover a few thousand miles a year on cars like Ferrari. If you go over the limit they won't cover the costs of an accident
@ikarugaxx3749
@ikarugaxx3749 6 жыл бұрын
You can use it everyday and run 20.000 kilometers a year with it. But do you even imagine what the running costs are? There's a class of people who can afford to buy such cars and use them moderately. Then if you are a multi - millionaire I agree with you, no reason to not use it all the time.
@aristosachaion_
@aristosachaion_ 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure if you know this, but Ferraris have a reputation of catching fire or breaking down when you least expect it. That's why it's not an everyday car. You can drive the Turbo S forever and it'll never fail you.
@RetiOrchid58
@RetiOrchid58 8 жыл бұрын
+Auto Express, how would the Maclaren 570GT compare, if you added that to the mix? The Maclaren and the Porsche are my favourite cars of this category, the Porsche wins for practicality again, but I'm guessing the carbon mono-tub gives the Maclaren a nicer ride.
@shivanshtiwari7052
@shivanshtiwari7052 8 жыл бұрын
I will take ferrari
@henningsouz2833
@henningsouz2833 8 жыл бұрын
thank you. and oh.... More videos with Steve, please.
@tedtheturbot
@tedtheturbot 8 жыл бұрын
porsche 200 kilo heavier but 40k cheaper that you can easily use as a daily driver - no brainer take the porsche every time
@DonLee1980
@DonLee1980 8 жыл бұрын
+scomberscombrus no, the actual curb weight of the Ferrari is around 1600kg. Ferrari usually give out only the dry weight, without the sat nav, power seats etc, then assume you paid an extra 100k on carbon fiber options. In reality, these 2 cars weight is definitely within 100kg if not less.
@Jinsun202
@Jinsun202 8 жыл бұрын
+Honfy Lam Actual kerb weight of the Ferrari is 1,525 kg. Porsche is 1,675 kg.
@DonLee1980
@DonLee1980 8 жыл бұрын
Ex Cop lmao. so after you read all what I said, you go to the Ferrari website and just take their number still? The latest road test showed the 488 at nearly 1600kg. Porsche, like other German manufacturers claim curb weight WITH driver in the car.
@Jinsun202
@Jinsun202 8 жыл бұрын
+Honfy Lam Kerb weight includes the weight of fluids - Porsche does not include this, Ferrari does. Of course I took the official manufacturer figures! Maybe I should just make them up in my head like you do! "LOL"
@DonLee1980
@DonLee1980 8 жыл бұрын
Ex Cop lmao. just because I give out info that you don't know doesn't mean it's "made up" Ferrari first claimed the Laferrari to be 1350kg. Then the actual curb weight is 1585kg. now look that up on google, wiki, anywhere. I guess everyone else in the world just make up numbers. Ferrari is the most honest brand in the world. That's why they don't allow people to test their cars with stop watches or scale weights...
@MagicAyrtonforever
@MagicAyrtonforever 8 жыл бұрын
I guess I'm just a Porsche guy! Ferrari looks stunning though.
@spartank1337
@spartank1337 8 жыл бұрын
488 but only because that porsche is not a gt2.
@VirusTornado
@VirusTornado 8 жыл бұрын
+karim kovalenko GT2 literally murders anything that's not a P1, LaFerrari, or 918.
@mitul.323
@mitul.323 8 жыл бұрын
+VirusTornado Including the driver.
@ErwinSchrodinger64
@ErwinSchrodinger64 8 жыл бұрын
LOL! The GT-2=widow maker.
@VirusTornado
@VirusTornado 8 жыл бұрын
***** GT2RS is actually quicker than a Carrera GT
@VirusTornado
@VirusTornado 8 жыл бұрын
***** oh widow maker
@roomfactor
@roomfactor 8 жыл бұрын
Ferrari of course, just for that sound!!!
@fun364
@fun364 8 жыл бұрын
it's sad that they couldn't REALLY compare them...most likely a stipulation made by Ferrari, smh.
@QuickQuips
@QuickQuips 8 жыл бұрын
570gt is also a viable choice. It's focused on being practical and should be in between them price wise.
@w-james9277
@w-james9277 8 жыл бұрын
+QuickQuips The 570GT is a sports/GT car. These are supercars.
@QuickQuips
@QuickQuips 8 жыл бұрын
+W-James The classifications are pretty fluid, and there's no clear definition on what a "supercar" is price and performance wise. Top Gear Magazine preferred the 570S over a 911S when comparing it alongside an Audi R8 Plus V10. I can't imagine the GT's changes like cast iron brakes or nicer interiors would deserve reclassification.
@w-james9277
@w-james9277 8 жыл бұрын
QuickQuips The 570S is more of a supercar because of its performance. The GT is a completely different animal.
@sylenzyostampa
@sylenzyostampa 8 жыл бұрын
Ferrari is simply Ferrari ..with engine and all components original Ferrari factory. ...porsche have al components from vw audi. .
@danesebruno
@danesebruno 8 жыл бұрын
Did you see the button behind the Ferrari's steering wheel? The button comes from Chrysler
@mzhp317
@mzhp317 8 жыл бұрын
So Ferrari has all Fiat parts? Just stop talking shit...
@mzhp317
@mzhp317 8 жыл бұрын
+NameSchema100 yes that's exactly my point? I don't know why you are replying to me...
@mzhp317
@mzhp317 8 жыл бұрын
+NameSchema100 it's allright, because I totally agree with your comment
@Sapphire4459
@Sapphire4459 5 жыл бұрын
Yeh the Ferrari engine is a tuned up Fiat 500 engine
@flynnparish9833
@flynnparish9833 8 жыл бұрын
Both cars are great. Now how do they compare to the Dacia Sandero?
@einseinseinseins
@einseinseinseins 8 жыл бұрын
Let's wait for the GT2 RS: Turbocharged, aero-kit, RWD, lightweight
@alfisti93
@alfisti93 8 жыл бұрын
+eins Yeah, lets wait. Because it'll struggle against the future 488 "speciale". (or whatever Ferrari is going to call their hardcore 488 GTB version after f355 edition fiorano, f360 challenge stradale, f430 scuderia and 458 speciale...)
@kraenk12
@kraenk12 8 жыл бұрын
Just like it "struggles" against the normal 488. Just for your info..it's the faster car already.
@alfisti93
@alfisti93 8 жыл бұрын
kraenk12 Oh really? If "faster" in your world actually means slower, then yes. In any other case: No. 488 GTB top speed: 206mph 1/4 mile: 10.3 secounds 0-100mph 6.1 secounds 0-200km/h 8.3 secounds 0-300km/h 25.6 secounds turbo s top speed: 204mph 1/4 mile 10.5 secounds 0-100mph 6.5 secounds 0-200km/h 9.4 secounds 0-300km/h 30.2 secounds At higher speed the Ferrari leaves the awd beetle for dead. Just for your info.
@absolutium
@absolutium 8 жыл бұрын
+alfisti93 Excellent post!
@alfisti93
@alfisti93 8 жыл бұрын
In Aere Edificare Sarcasm? I like ;)
@vegafiedmedia
@vegafiedmedia 5 жыл бұрын
Did the lip fall off or was that a different clip? at :35 you see the turbo S lip...then you dont.
@daveschozer6166
@daveschozer6166 8 жыл бұрын
911 Turbo S, is KING
@ShawnFX
@ShawnFX 5 жыл бұрын
whats the specific name of the blue color on this Porsche?
@coureurdebois
@coureurdebois 8 жыл бұрын
as much as i like the 911 turbo S the 488 GTB simply beats it in near every way. now with that said i do still prefer the turbo and Porsche name plate over that of the Ferrari
@oxxXXXMICHAELXXXxxoo
@oxxXXXMICHAELXXXxxoo 8 жыл бұрын
+justin bouche with the porsche you get more for the money
@coureurdebois
@coureurdebois 8 жыл бұрын
+Mhunter Rhunter well thats always the answer, but at the end of the day whatever you choose will be compared to the Ferrari if you like american cars and you want a super car, you would pick the corvette Z06 or viper, if you like german super cars you would go with the R8 or Turbo S, if you like British super cars you would go with the Mclaren 570s or 650s, if you like Japanese super cars you would go NSX or GTR, but no matter which you choose they will always be compared to the Ferrari.
@JamaicanMeCrazy
@JamaicanMeCrazy 8 жыл бұрын
+Mhunter Rhunter how often do you get to say that :)
@ashtonmurch2142
@ashtonmurch2142 8 жыл бұрын
+Mhunter Rhunter I think if someone is buying these cars they don't give a shit about money lol
@oldschoolracinggames5729
@oldschoolracinggames5729 8 жыл бұрын
+justin bouche youre are not fan of 911. Because real fan would never write such bullshit like Ferrari beats Porsche so0mewhere. BEcause that's not true.
@digi051669
@digi051669 8 жыл бұрын
good comments by Sutcliffe. If you can't afford both, the Porsche would be the pick for it's practicality. 488 is nice no matter what you say. I tested one the other day to see if I wasn't to change my 458 and it's an animal compared with the 458. sounds pretty dame good when I tested it. emmmm. both epic
@medaminemajid4801
@medaminemajid4801 8 жыл бұрын
Im with Steve the porsche is Just Windows maker it's has the power to pull the univers
@columbretes19650821
@columbretes19650821 7 жыл бұрын
Always the same excuse .... the 911 can be driven every day.... keep it for you, I will stay with the Ferrari
@SmallBlogV8
@SmallBlogV8 8 жыл бұрын
The 488 doesn't sound that good. It's quieter and lower than the 458 and only makes one noise. Certainly no opera singer (a terrible cliché anyway)... Also, why has the UK motoring press collectively started quoting torque in Newton Metres (NM) instead of lb/ft? I'm sure they do it in mainland Europe or whatever, but having only heard lb/ft for the last ~15 years, I have no barometer for how much is a lot of NM, especially as it doesn't relate to horsepower as closely.
@johnjackson12
@johnjackson12 8 жыл бұрын
+Mikeado66 750nm equates to 553lb/ft, which is an insane amount of torque! For a rough calculation in your head you want to knock off around 25% of what the nm torque is. And i agree the 488 doesnt sound that great IMO. I know it will be massively faster than the 458 but speed isnt everything, sometimes its the drama and noise of how it gets there which counts
@ПИПАЕ36
@ПИПАЕ36 8 жыл бұрын
Flat plane crank V8 never sounds good(Na and turbo).
@penalozaur
@penalozaur 8 жыл бұрын
Right on bruh, it's firing order is like a 2xL4, so no sound quality, just brainless (loud) noise. But, being flatplane allows it to have twinscroll turbos and separate the exhaust pulses, lower lag etc. Such effort is expected from a know how monster as Ferrari.
@Lostsage01
@Lostsage01 4 жыл бұрын
I never realized Ferrari seats could be moved that close to the steering wheel 😆
@abidmalik3345
@abidmalik3345 8 жыл бұрын
TURBO S!!
@davidhayes4814
@davidhayes4814 8 жыл бұрын
Between 1980 and 2000 supercars gained 30% more power and nearly the same weight. In the last 15 years, they have gained a similar amount of power for no gain in weight. Many are now a fair bit lighter and are ridiculously fast.That Porsche is accelerating faster than gravity.
@speedyferrari
@speedyferrari 8 жыл бұрын
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