Festool Domino Layout | MultiMark Jig

[@warrenbarnes6629]

Welcome back and as always love what you and your buddy's are doing over on Green Suiters Podcast.

[@BenMarshallDesigns]

Thanks, Warren!

[@lundyswoodcrease5876]

That’s clever! Big Ben is back!!

[@BenMarshallDesigns]

Yep!!! Glad to be making content again

[@MrLydo617]

Accurate repeatability is key!! Love it Ben I think this will be a big help to people!

[@BenMarshallDesigns]

Thanks, Mike!

[@andrewbrown8148]

So happy that I found this video. I picked up a Domino XL 500 this past Christmas and this jig will go great with it~! Still getting used to it, but that's the fun of it, right? Thanks for this great idea~!

[@BenMarshallDesigns]

Enjoy!

[@workshopdojo]

Very nice 👍🏽 I love your channel, nice to see you back putting out videos.

[@BenMarshallDesigns]

Cheers! Great to be making content again!

[@christopherkoopman7278]

Great video. Makes Jason's video's look like armature hour.

[@BenMarshallDesigns]

I mean...he is an amateur so... only fitting that he makes 'ryobi' quality videos

[@christopherkoopman7278]

@@BenMarshallDesigns Keep these videos coming they are great. Loving the podcast as well you guys are hilarious.

[@BenMarshallDesigns]

@@christopherkoopman7278 thanks!!

[@chriscianci317]

So simple so helpful

[@BenMarshallDesigns]

Yep!

[@bobhinden7813]

That looks useful. p.s. Nice cat!

[@BenMarshallDesigns]

Thanks Bob! That’s roux! My blind shop cat

[@EricGrayEricLeePhotos]

My Domino included wings that literally accomplish this same thing (actually faster because there's no marking required). This would really be very useful for biscuit joiner or dowel users who are required to do layout by hand. It's a good jig, just marketed to the wrong audience I think.

[@BenMarshallDesigns]

Yep the cross stops. Sadly those aren’t included in both versions of the DF500 (although they’re pretty inexpensive). I have the cross stops as well, but have rarely used them. Just another alternative

[@risby2]

I've use those wings but sometimes when attaching red wood face frames to the plywood carcass the dominos wouldn't line up. so this jig should do the trick.

[@BenMarshallDesigns]

@@risby2 The cross stops certainly require a mental adjustment to the concept. At the end of the day, the cross stops require a mirror reference point along the joining edge to be used properly. Obviously marking the plunge location is super easy and straightforward. However, in a high production environment, it might be more beneficial to use the cross stops. I certainly need more practice with them! Glad you think the jig will be helpful!

[@chrisr8996]

It seems a neat idea, but since you only need to make the first Domino off your reference face (!) on the tight setting you really don't need any exact markings or precision, because the mortises in the one piece only roughly need to match their counterparts in the other piece (you've got 6 and 10mm lateral play on the medium and wide settings respectively). And because the first ones on either part are done using the Domino's little flag stops you have the necessary repeatability to get your faces flush without measuring (or marking)

[@BenMarshallDesigns]

You’re completely correct about having one tight and the rest loose. I’ve found that people have their preferences with how they do their tenons. There are some people that like to do all tight tenons, which makes this jig suitable for them. There are also some that will do one panel all tight and the other all loose. I wanted a jig that mitigated errors in those few times when I wasn’t thinking properly in the moment!!

[@chrisr8996]

@@BenMarshallDesigns fair point, it's easy enough to create a mess with the Domino if you lack sleep 😄 One advantage I do see with your jig in hindsight is the fact that you can simply swap parts of the same dimension (if you wanna hide blemished surfaces etc.) because the Dominos will all be at basically the same position on every single part

[@BenMarshallDesigns]

@@chrisr8996 yep, and that’s the point behind using the jig. I wanted a fail safe to prevent those rare occasions when my lack of focus got the best of me. Even if I’m being an idiot, the jig is a barrier to stupidity 😆

[@risby2]

Thanks, what size of Domino's are you using in 18mm ply

[@BenMarshallDesigns]

These were 5x30

[@chrisr8996]

Generally speaking the same as for any other tenon, 1/3 the thickness of your material (i.e. 6mm would be ideal for 18mm)

[@BenMarshallDesigns]

@@chrisr8996 true. However there are no 6x30 dominos. I like using a 15mm plunge with 18mm material, as I don’t have to worry about switching plunge depths between face and edge plunges. Makes the process quicker and removes possibility of accidental through tenons

[@chrisr8996]

@@BenMarshallDesigns good point, definitely reduces the possibility for errors. Won't make much difference in strength for most general applications anyway

[@BenMarshallDesigns]

@@chrisr8996 yep! Appreciate the comments!