High precision Festool Domino jig - Part 1 of 2

A jig to acchieve high precision when using the Festool Domino machine on narrow parts.
Check out the new improved fence with integrated flip memory! • Festool Domino jig Par...
Also see the modified Festool clamps to keep them in the up-position • Festool Rail clamp mod...
Dimensions can be found here drive.google.c...
...and the router bit used for the T-slots here www.axminstert...
CMT router bit 950.004.11 is also suitable for the T-slots.
...sorry for the focusing problem, didn't see it until I filmed all sequences….

[@Hand-i-Craft]

Hello Carmonius, I've just posted a link to this video in my comments / community section on my channel. I cannot thank you enough for such an ingenious design. As someone who only has one functioning hand it has made my Domino jointing life so easy and now saves me so much time 😀. Best wishes and thank you sir, Leo

[@harveysmith100]

That is one of the best jigs I have seen in a long time. Thank you for learning English to a good standard.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks! Don't miss the improved fence video (linked in the description), it makes the jig a bit more user friendly.

[@rbrown2925]

Very nicely designed and presented, thanks. The only change I might make is to use toggle clamps mounted to the movable (triangular) fence. They could save a lot of clamp twisting, especially if there were a lot of pieces to cut that were the same thickness.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks! Yes I'm aware of that, for larger runs toggles are faster. Problem is the put a load on the jig which needs to be quite beefy if using toggles. For shorter runs the difference is not that much, especially since the rail clamps doesn't require any fiddling to adjust to different workpiece thicknesses and widths.

[@thefilthelement]

I got tired of using the Festool included attachment for small parts very quickly. This is very helpful, thank you!

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

You're welcome! I got tired of that accessory the first time I tried to use it🙂

[@thomasstapel6824]

I have a domino also. Your a great teacher. The explanations are thorough and complete.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks Thomas!

[@clars7146]

...so happy I stumbled upon this. This is the same idea that popped up in FWW 279 tips. The cut t- track ideas are endless. Thanks for sharing and changing my thoughts on how I make my jigs now. Now off to the shop to make my domino experience more pleasant. Oh and thanks for 279!!!

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks!...#279😀. That was quite some years after I first tipped FWW about the routed in t-tracks but finally they were convinced. Agree, it totally changes the clamping solution for jig building. My cross cut sled was "first out" in my shop and there it's really useful and beats all other clamping concepts. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6bSoqeBaLFgg7s

[@clars7146]

@@CarmoniusFinsnickeri ... Domino jig table set up and working amazingly… Thanks again! I can now take off the button that makes the domino hole a little larger! 🤠 I love any woodworking project where I can be concerned with thousandths of an inch and feel confident that I can achieve that accuracy!

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

@@clars7146 good work! Did you make the improved fence as well? If you like thousands I recommend you also check out my digital edge guide for the router....and fence for the router table but that's not as innovative🙂

[@clars7146]

@@CarmoniusFinsnickeri ...I did not make the newer fence.. I work to the spacer block not cutting a spacer after. I will see how it goes. I will check out your router fence. I attached 4 legs to aprons for a small table..16 dominos no marking, all on the tight setting, all ended up flush....perfect!!! Thank you

[@AngieWilliamsDesigns]

This is a great idea. I've been needing a clamping table for my domino. I like that this is portable and everything about it.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks! This table has helped me on many projects so far, I can really recommend it☺

[@danielrisberg2112]

Vilken lysande idé! Ska precis köpa en Festool Domino och inser ju nu att ett sådant hjälpmedel måste man ju ha. Toppenvideo!

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Tack Daniel! Vet inte om du såg länken på slutet där jag förbättrade anhållet lite några dagar senare. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZukZo1uobaJsMk

[@danielrisberg2112]

@@CarmoniusFinsnickeri Hej! Nej, det missade jag. Ska kolla det. Tack för tipset! Hoppas du lägger upp fler videos!

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

@@danielrisberg2112 Nya videos kommer lite allt eftersom. Superjiggen tog lite kraft men nu är jag på gång igen.

[@LickorishAllsorts]

Thank you for explaining at the outset what you were going to sho - a blessed relief.

[@pctatc66]

Just wanted to let you know I bought the Lee Valley version of your table which as I understand you get a little piece of. I originally wanted to buy the Woodpeckers version but decided I wouldn't support out right thievery. Well done..

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Nice move Dean, hope you will be satisfied with your Domino table.

[@alanwojcik2213]

That is a great jig !!!! I will be making one for sure. Thanks for your input on how to use it. Great job !!!!

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks Alan! Good luck with the build, in case you missed it I made an improvement to the fence kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZukZo1uobaJsMk

[@bobd.]

Nice jig for working with small parts with the Domino. Thank you for sharing. Now, off to watch the rail clamp modification video. :-)

[@jimh472]

0:49 "the most expensive joinery machine and have to build a table for it". Comedy hits (hurts) best when it's true.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

😁

[@EddyCarroll]

Excellent, well thought out jig! Lots of useful ideas that can be applied in other situations too. Thank you!

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks Eddy, glad to hear.🙂

[@JDDupuy]

Outstanding. I will be making one tomorrow. Needed it a few weeks ago and came up against the very problem. Thanks for sharing this idea. Much appreciated!

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks! If any qestions during the build just ask and I will try to answer...and check the improved fence film before building🙂

[@JDDupuy]

@@CarmoniusFinsnickeri Just finished mine tonight. Now to build the improved fence. What a great jig to do small door frames and picture frames. Thank you so much!

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

@@JDDupuy Great work, I really think and hope you will find the jig very useful.

[@barryirby8609]

Very nice, well thought out. Also watched the modified fence video and it is worth the effort. Thank you for posting both.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks!

[@peternikitopoulos8776]

OUTSTANDING! Well done. I"m always in complete awe of people that use their creativity and ingenuity to create jigs like the one you did. Thanks for sharing. You should seriously consider copyrighting that design. I suspect Festool will come out with a new "Domino Table" accessory that they will charge a premium for. Your design is that good.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Hi Peter, sorry for late response, for some reason I don't get notification on all new comments and therefore miss them. Thanks for your compliments, I'm usually not a man of great words when it comes to my own inventions but in this case I actually agree😊. This IS a great jig and the first of it's kind as far as I know. Copyright will not be enough though, a patent would be needed and that is something I don't have economic muscles to go through.

[@CogentConsult]

Excellent jig! Well made! Great instruction! One question: on the but-joint frame, why couldn’t you simply have found the exact center of the end grain piece and extend that line across to the side grain piece and then just line up the center line of the domino to those lines. That’s what I do and I get perfect butt joint alignment every time.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks! If I understood your question correct; The whole idea with this jig is to get more exact result than if aiming for layout lines, and also save some work with not needing layout lines since the jig handles that. If you use your method for the butt joint with perfect results you should get perfect results also for a miter joint(?). I didn't really get the center thing, but many times I want the joint off center, if there's a routed rabbet towards the inside of the joint for example.

[@malcolmkey7524]

I love this design. I notice that Veritas have copied your design! I hope you get royalties from their sales. You deserve the credit... Thank you.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks! Yes Veritas are paying me royalties.

[@webbmac]

. @CarmoniusFinsnickeri That speaks to the character of Veritas/Lee Valley. Seem like great people.

[@bigdogmn73]

Very cool jig! Nice job and thank you for sharing!

[@andrewnelson3681]

Excellent video. Thank you.

[@israelcharo1563]

Excellent video and very well explained! Question: Any advice on how to get the holes for the domino placed so that the machine is exactly in line with the 2 fences (to the left and the right). Thanks!

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

@@israelcharo1563 Thanks! No better way than measuring as good as you can and use slightly oversized holes. As I show in the video I align the domino with the front of the fence faces when I mount it.

[@noseasmamut]

Amazing, thank you very much for sharing.

[@godfreyglyn1117]

Fantastic ideas and execution, thanks for sharing.

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[@Stillnapie]

This is outstanding! I will be making a version for my Domino 700XL. Thank you for sharing!!!

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks! Very interesting, haven't even thought about a 700 version of this jig but I guess with some tweaks that shouldn't be any problems. Check the improved fence film before you start building🙂

[@matonmacs]

Seriously cool. Folks are linking your video since Woodpeckers just came out with a similar jig, but I really like yours. One possible helpful change is to use the Microjig matchfit system which would let you not have to have the threaded inserts. Thanks for the idea!

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks.

[@billystray7007]

I wouldn't call it similar; it's pretty much a direct copy

[@dimitrimitropoulos]

yeah, what Billy Stray said: it's a shameless ripoff.

[@WelshRabbit]

Wow, how did you manage to get a Domino with the original pins? Mine, and every Domino I've tried to buy since acquiring my current one, has those not-quite-worthless "paddles" or flaps. The pin-model is SO much better. Brilliant work on your jig.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks! I bought the machine second handed (but rarely used) and it had the old style pins. I think Festool had to change the pins due to patent conflict with Mafells duo doweller machine.

[@normanboyes4983]

Congratulations. Like all great ideas it is all so simple to view in hindsight. Excellent work.😀👍

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks! Agree, not one of my most complex jigs but very useful.

[@frankslittleworkshop]

Great vid and jig. Just watched Leo on "Hand-i-craft" using it to great effect. This is a fantastic tool to fit his working methods. You have my sub and I'll enjoy watching your other content. All I need now is a Domino 🤣😂. Thank you 😁👍🇬🇧

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks for your kind words, glad you enjoyed the jig and video.🙂

[@rasmo243]

Great looking jig

[@CFAinNoVA]

well designed jig and explanation.

[@markscheiner3952]

Excellent jig and great video.

[@richthomas5013]

Really great jig as are some of your other videos. I see you haven’t posted in a while. I hope no one in your life is ill and that you’ll return to providing this kind of valuable content.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks Rich. Well...usually winter season is when I make new movies so no worry summer has been slow. But unfortunately you are right, we have some serious illness (not Corona and not me) in the family and it will probably take a while before I make new videos.

[@richthomas5013]

@@CarmoniusFinsnickeri I’m deeply sorry to hear that. I’ll put out energy for you and your family for a speedy resolve. Take care.

[@WasimBarri]

Love the jig. Would a memory stick also work with butt joints rather than using digital calipers?

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks! Memory stick will work on all user cases. Or make the improved fence with integrated memory stick kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZukZo1uobaJsMk

[@Kosh42EFG]

Excellent design.

[@jcguzek7033]

VERY WELL DONE

[@MagSun]

You could incorporate hold-down-clamps to the fence to not fiddle around with the T-track clamps.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Toggle clamps? Well. You would need two clamps at the miter side of the fence, two clamps at the straight side and two clamps on left and right side of the domino. That means 8 clamps in total. Also, toggle clamps put a lot of force between the parts which risks to bend the base and/or the the fences. With track clamps this force is taken up within the clamps and there is no risk of bending. To add to that the rail clamps are easier to adjust for various thicknesses of wood. But sure; if this was a production jig, only handling one type of cuts and size of wood, it could make sense to beef up all parts and go for toggle clamps. Quicker but less flexible

[@edwinj1510]

Pure Genius!! I was having trouble making picture frames with my thin stock, and referencing consistently, and keeping them stable without a jig. Please contact me if you want to sell me a jig.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks Edwin, yes this jig really shines in frame making. Sorry but I'm not inrerested to make another jig. I'm a cabinet maker and that's where I spend most effort and time. Jigs I make to simplify or increase accuracy in my daily work. It's a quite simple build where not much can go wrong, can't you make your own?

[@johncbrownmd]

So I looked at the Woodpeckers videos and they definitely copied your idea. You do deserve credit for this jig and I applaud this great idea for small wood Domino joinery.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks! Yes I also think they "borrowed" some ideas from me...🙂.

[@fgriffintx]

Very nicely made jig! I had planned to use dominos in my frames, but not having tried it yet I now realize it will be tricky without some alignment jig. It seemed like you were using the smallest setting on the mortise width - maybe you mentioned it. I assume you flipped to the other side half way through was to keep the frame pieces always with the same side up.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks! Yes, narrow setting on the machine, especially for mitered frames this is important to prevent the parts from sliding in the glue up. Also I keep the reference surfaces downwards towards the jig base. If not using my "flip the fence method" you would need to perfectly center the domino thickness wise and that is very difficult. My method is not sensitive at all to offcentered joints.

[@dsdragoon]

Wow! a great idea! Thank you!

[@MagSun]

There is an accessory for narrow stock. On miter joints, the Domino has to be closer to the center, doesn't it? The jig looks very nice though!

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Narrow stock accessory would only handle the end grain cut side and there is some fiddling involved with it. Long side cuts are not helped by that accessory. For the miters, the exact domino location depends on a lot of things, wood width, length of Domino and if there is to be a groove for a picture or something else on the inside etc. This is not an instruction video where to position the domino, I only show how to place it in excatly the same place in both parts.

[@ThisTall]

This is impressive. For adjustability, would it be possible to mount the domino with the top support down at 90°, then mount to the table upside down so the bottom surface of the top support is now facing up and flush with the table surface? If it is, it would allow you to adjust the height of the domino by the tools adjustment, instead of removing it to add shims.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Needed to read that a few times but now I get what you mean. It's a very clever idea🙂. Though I would be quite worried about flex and inaccuracy and loosing angle setting, with the machine "hanging" only in the top support. My gut feeling is that It's a much less stable and reliable solution. But, very smart and it could be worth doing a trial of it.

[@rodv7779]

Fantastic work, mate! What a phenomenal jig! I will definitely be building one of these. I see that Veritas has created a jig pretty much the same as yours and is charging a ton of money for it. It is definitely worth it for you to copyright and patent your inventions. It would be well worth your while! I am sure you could licence your ideas and have someone like Fast-Cap, etc., pick up the manufacturing/marketing end if you are too busy? Just a thought, and I wish you all the best, sir! Thank you for the great video and ideas on how to improve the quality of artistry!

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks! I'm well aware of Veritas version, they contacted me and pay me royalty. For a one man business like mine, patents is just to heavy and expensive to handle. I'm primarilly a cabinet maker and want to stay that way rather than ending up selling plans. When I have something good to share I do, although without major interest to profit from it. I made one exemption though which is my new Superjig where I will sell plans and have build videos since it's a bit more complex than my other jigs. Btw, I think Veritas price is ok, woodpeckers version is more than twice of that.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Btw, don't miss the improved fence flipper video for the Domino Jig, well worth the effort if you build from scratch.

[@rodv7779]

@@CarmoniusFinsnickeri, I have watched that video, and you have now gained a loyal subscriber. I am glad that Veritas has stepped up to the plate and is definitely more of a reputable company in my book compared to Woodpeckers. Thanks so much!

[@johnschotz1614]

Fantastic jig!

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks☺

[@dorlevin1684]

You just blew my mind🙏

[@alexmunteanu1309]

Riktigt bra jobb! Tack, var väldigt lärorikt! Jag sätter igång med min imorgon!

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Hoppas den blev (blir) bra!

[@bengtssontypee]

great jigg and video!

[@6BlackWings]

awesome! would love to see a video where you build the jig.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks! Well it's a bit too late now to make that video😐. I think it's a simple jig build but since many ask for plans etc maybe I do some build videos in the future when I make new jigs.

[@lobird23]

excellent jig and video.

[@nosby30]

Love it, Excellent job!!!

[@KarelKubela]

Very well done!👍🏻

[@foamx01]

Great Jig! I'm going to make one today. I have a question though. I've looked all over the internet for the base plate dimensions. Specifically the spacing between the 2 M5 mounting screws. I'm going to grab a set of calipers and measure but thought I'd ask if you know where I can find those specs on the web?

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks! I measured with a caliper, doesn't need to be super precise, make the holes oversized so you have some wiggle room to align the domino to the fence when you mount it.

[@foamx01]

@@CarmoniusFinsnickeri , 50mm is the magic number for anyone else making the jig :-)

[@foamx01]

I finished the jig and used it for the first time last night. It's a game changer for narrow/small workpieces. Thanks for much for sharing your design!

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

@@foamx01 Yes it is🙂. Nice to hear that you finished the build and are satisfied with the results.

[@geraldlalonde5992]

Would there be plans that I could get to make this Jig?

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

No plans unfortunately. A few reasons to this, to start with it's a quite simple build and should be possible to make without plans, there is some extra info and links in the video description. Secondly, since Veritas started producing this and pay me royalty it would be like shooting myself in the foot to release plans. If you build your own and have questions just ask.

[@PSModernKitchens]

Great idea! Maybe you can install a tape measure or metal scale on both side of center line?

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks ! What would the purpose of the tape measure be? I don't see any real use for it, exact flipping of the fence is the key here and referencing a tape measure which is referencing the center line is just not good enough.

[@philipchristian9935]

I was thinking to make a file for this to cut on a cnc. Wondering if you would be fine with me doing that and making it available for others to use?

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Fine with me, go ahead. If you do it I would go for the microjig dovetail clamps as they give a better clamping interface. (Those clamps were not invented when I made this jig)

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Btw, you can maybe mention my video if you make it publicly available, I appreciate all traffic I can get.

[@philipchristian9935]

@@CarmoniusFinsnickeri yes definitely will link your video! Thanks and appreciate it

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

@@philipchristian9935 Thanks!

[@moontide3278]

Great, Thank you!

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Don't miss the fence flipper video, it makes this jig even better.

[@sedivyvlkodlak]

Hello, thank you for this great idea. I'd like to build it for myself, but the Axminster bit for t-slots is out of stock (and will be in stock maybe at the end of the year). Do you know about some alternatives?

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Hi, yes I have a few alternatives. #1. For t-slots that match the rail clamps, cmt router bit 950.004.11 is said to fit. There are probably other M8 t-slots cutters rhat also works. #2. You can use the matchfit dovetail clamps and suitable bit. #3. You can make the base out of 2 layers, then you dont even need a t slot cutter. Make the wide part of the upside down T in the top layer, before gluing the pieces together and the narrow part afterwards. Good luck and just ask if any questions during the build.

[@sedivyvlkodlak]

@@CarmoniusFinsnickeri Thank you for the quick answer. I'll try the CMT router bit. I really like your inventions. And thanks for the willingness to help.

[@sedivyvlkodlak]

@@CarmoniusFinsnickeri Sorry for the basic questions, but could you please tell me what buttons do you use (some link) and using which bits you create the holes into the triangles?

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

@@sedivyvlkodlak you can use just about any router bit for the holes in the triangles. The holes doesnt need to be accurate in any way. For the knobs, I used some from the local hardware store. You can find these cheap on aliexpress for instance, search for star knob. The only tricky part to source was the thumbscrew in brass which needs to be smaller than the thickness of the triangle fence. I bought these ones. a.aliexpress.com/_vKGk4l

[@sedivyvlkodlak]

@@CarmoniusFinsnickeri Hello, so I finally built my jig! I have Domino 700, so I had to change the design slightly. I also do not have your latest system for mirroring the triangle .. I created something that is easier to build. It is probably not so precise as your method, so maybe I will upgrade later. I made some mistakes when building the jig, so it does not look as great as your one ... but it works. So I will use it for some time and then probably build a new one so that it also looks so nice and I'll probably also try your system for mirroring later. Thanks again for your great idea and support.

[@Wood_Slice]

Simply perfect. Love your design. Do you sell plans for it?

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks! No plans, there is some additional info in the video description if you want to build your own. It's a quite simple build and many viewers have built one without detailed plans.

[@ajlohn]

Incredible! what is the size of the threads on the face?

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks! The threaded inserts? Those are M6 but you could of course use other size. If you refer to the threads in the bottom plate of the machine those are M5.

[@michael.schuler]

Thank you for clever innovation and excellent video. Could you please tell us model/product number of the Axminster bit that cuts T-slot for Festool clamps that you refer to at 3:58? Also, in case you haven't heard of it, you may like to check out Ramon Valdez's recent product, Domino Dock, which also transforms Domino into stationary machine suitable for small parts, although IMO not with the level of sophistication or application as your table.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks Michael. The link to the router bit is in the video description, there is also a product no for a similar cmt bit. Press the arrow down to the right and you will find it. If I built this today I would change and go with the microjig dovetail clamps. I checked the Domino Dock and realized I had seen it before, I would say it has a bit different area of use and is not as allround and precise as mine.

[@michael.schuler]

@@CarmoniusFinsnickeri Thanks for your quick response. I am aware of the Matchfit Microjig system and have made several shop fixtures, etc. with it. However, as I work primarily as trim carpenter on site, I have been trying to develop a system of lightweight portable benches in which it would be desirable to accomplish two characteristics that may in the end prove incompatible with each other: The first is that whatever dovetail or T-slot groove system I settle upon be universal throughout my system, i.e., able to accommodate either Festool style or Microjig clamp heads everywhere, so that whichever style clamp I have on the job can be used. (I especially favor the Festool and Bessey quick action ratchet type clamps.) The second characteristic is that the groove system not require either work top thickness greater than 19 mm or additional reinforcement form below, as you have rightly seen the need to do with your table, in order to avoid that the work surface become too weak. As I say, I'm not sure these two characteristics are compatible with one another. So far, it looks to me that the Microjig system requires groove depth of only 10 mm, due to the strength characteristics of the dovetail shape, whereas T-slots required for typical track clamp heads must be at least 12-13 mm deep in order to avoid leaving insufficient material either above or below the slots. Another KZbinr, roughcutprince, has experimented with alternately configured (10 degree) dovetail grooves that will accommodate both Microjig and Festool/Bessey clamps. I have not yet tested his ideas or conclusion that such a dovetail slot is strong enough to resist premature wear or immediate failure, but his solution looks very promising. In any case, as a fellow craftsman and innovator, I'm glad I stumbled onto your channel. Subscribed.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

@@michael.schuler Thanks for your thorough explanation. There is also an option to file away a little bit of material on the festool clamps to make them fit the microjig dimension dovetail tracks. There is a video about that mod on youtube.

[@michael.schuler]

@@CarmoniusFinsnickeri Thank you. That seems like it might be a better and more efficient solution, as I will be spending far more time cutting slots than it would take to file a few clamps, and I also like the Microjig dovetail cutter with its integral softening of the top edge of the groove. Have you done this clamp modification? Does it compromise the fit of the Festool clamps in the guide rail slots at all?

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

@@michael.schuler no haven't done this mod as I have had no reason to. I own both clamp types and they are very close at hand in the shop. Here's a link to the video kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmKqco18payGp5I

[@chris-murray]

Great idea!

[@Psychlist1972]

Found this due to the Woodpeckers video discussion. Cool projects here. Subscribed. :)

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks and welcome!

[@dixie002]

Brilliant!!!

[@DocRonSnyder]

Genius. Bravo.

[@HolisticHealthEducation]

Gut gemacht! Daumen hoch 👍🏻

[@markaseltine4025]

Would you be able to leave a link to the t-Slot bit you used for this?

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Sure, here it is www.axminstertools.com/eu/axcaliber-tee-slot-cutter-for-track-clamps-101972?glCountry=SE&glCurrency=SEK If you live outside eu it might be easier to source the microjig dovetail clamps and corresponding router bit. Identical concept just different geometry.

[@NicoSmets]

That's a wonderful jig. Thank you for sharing

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks! Hope you also find the improved fence video☺

[@mikehewitt6484]

Excellent 👍🏻

[@antkn33]

Brilliant

[@MrReza656s]

The great Idea of yours is stolen now by Woodpeckers. Great Job bro.👌

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks! Yes that's old news by now, the woodpecker version vs mine was a hot discussion topic when they released theirs.

[@MrReza656s]

@@CarmoniusFinsnickeri But it doesnt change the Fact that you are a genius in your field👌

[@nomark1978]

this is so nice!!

[@phd7800]

You know it's good when Woodpeckers copies your design and sells it for $700.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Yes that's a decent verdict.🙂

[@CP-du3ci]

brilliant

[@matthewbyington2418]

Did Woodpeckers rip this off?

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Heavily debated on several places including their youtube release films. Make your own opinion🙂

[@Beethovenviolin]

An old fashioned horizontal boring machine w two dowels is much faster, simpler, cheaper, more stable and proven strong. I own a domino 500. Good for its portability for use on the jobsite and for joints that require more stability than usual such as ironwood with sepo dominos and two part epoxy exposed to the elements.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Yes? This jig was mainly to simplify a few things the Domino already can do, for those who rather extend/improve the use of their Domino than buying a horizontal boring machine.

[@Beethovenviolin]

@@CarmoniusFinsnickeri yes the table does that and the combination works for a hobbyist or for a few joints. My contribution is toward a production shop where time is money.

[@billystray7007]

Are you aware that woodpeckers has copied this jig almost exactly? And they are, of course, selling it

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Yes, I got the news yesterday and it's discussed in comments below.

[@tscottedgingtoniii]

Are there plans for your jig?

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

No detailed plans but It's a quite simple build. I have pics with dimensions, send me an email and I will att least give you those.

[@mikewardleworth8261]

Hi Carmonius...could you send me pics and dimensions please My email is [e-mail] Many thanks

[@carlcarley8371]

@@CarmoniusFinsnickeri hi could you send me plans for your jig please? [e-mail]

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

@@carlcarley8371 there is a link to my google drive in the video description. I placed the pics with ruler dimension reference there.

[@paulrigby9972]

@@CarmoniusFinsnickeri could you send the information to build this jig to [e-mail] Many thanks Paul

[@MrWookie1981]

Did you sell this design to Woodpecker?

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

No they just stole the idea...

[@MrWookie1981]

@@CarmoniusFinsnickeri That sucks. I remember watching your vid a couple years ago then got the email of the new woodpecker tool today and instantly reminded me of yours so thought I would ask.

[@Psychlist1972]

@@MrWookie1981 Same thing I just posted to the WP video: As crappy as it is to consider, if the design was not patented (which is super hard for individuals to do), then there's no actual stealing here. But yeah, this is clearly a refinement of that design. He doesn't sell plans or anything, though, so it's no more than when Rockler or WP or Woodcraft or similar come out with a table saw sled or shooting board. There's no damage to him or his business. Also keep in mind that there are tons of KZbin videos showing copies of WP designs being sold for cheap. So I guess it cuts both ways. But it would have been nice if they could have acknowledged inspiration at a minimum. Unfortunately, lawyers will just about always advise against that.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

@@Psychlist1972 For me it's not a matter of money and when I wrote "stole" I didn't have money in mind. As you say I have no patent for this and I never had money or world fame in mind when I invented and presented this jig. It upsets me a bit though that woodpecker pretends this is their innovation. "The idea for the MortiseMatch came about when a few of us were trying to use the Domino on some narrow, mitered frames." The Domino was released 15 years ago, and I have a hard time believing it took 13-14 years for woodpecker to try the machine on narrow stock and see room for improvement. It's pretty obvious they have seen my movies and copied a lot of it, especially the main innovation how to flip the fence from right to left side, my final version in the link below. Some companies offer royalties to innovators even if they don't have to do it legally. In the long run I think that's a better solution for the company, doing it as woodpecker did here is not good for the reputation. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZukZo1uobaJsMk

[@Psychlist1972]

@@CarmoniusFinsnickeri Yeah. I get that. Legally they didn't have to do anything, but it would have been a pro move on their part to at least acknowledge the inspiration. But I know corp lawyers just about always insist that no one do that. Also, I missed the part about them claiming they just came up with the idea. That's a whole new layer, and I agree that's pretty crappy. The solutions are way too similar to have been something someone at WP came up with independently. I was on the fence (no pun intended) about getting one. This tipped it against getting the WP jig.

[@MagSun]

11:55 can't you just leave the last butted piece clamped down and align the fence to that?

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

No. The fence is flipped using the center of the cut (which is centered around the guide pins on the machine) as reference. Using the work piece as flip reference would only work if the domino cut is 100% centered in the work piece. My method is more flexible (cut doesn't need to be centered in the work piece) and also more reliable. Also your suggestion would only work on 90 degree joints, miters or any other angle it would not work.

[@MagSun]

Oh, my mistake, I see it now. Maybe a self-centering contraption could help? Like a center finder where you can leave one of the two sides as a fence for your blue parts, then switch it over to the other side. Just thinking how to avoid possible mistakes using measurement tools and sacrificial pieces.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Check the new film for the fence flipping, solves all problems. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZukZo1uobaJsMk

[@bundchund]

Bro woodpeckers stole your design

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Yes I just received the news in another comment.

[@girthbrooks39]

*3rd Most expensive joinery machine in the world* ...... both Lamello and Mafell make joinery machines that retail for more than the Festool, at least in the states. Rare is the time I've been able to say Festool cost less than the competition lol. In the U.S. Festool is almost always the most expensive product when compared to similar offerings from other power tool manufacturers however oftentimes festool products stand alone in terms of in class competition with no direct competitors. It also must be said that the festool products which can be compared apples to apples with competitors are almost always of a quality far better and usually packed with innovations and features not seen on any other tools which sort of places them in the same class in name only.

[@chuckmeister6518]

I like and buy WP tools - I love American-made quality. However... when I saw the MortiseMatch I thought... wait a minute-- I've seen that before, At the very least, WP should acknowledge your very clever design. Its disappointing that there was zero nod to your ingenuity. Theirs is clearly based on what you created.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Thanks and yes I agree with you.

[@MagSun]

14:00 when the price is thicker, use two Dominos? More stability and no need to adjust.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

If it's thicker than 30ish mm that would be an option. Thinner than that (depending on domino thickness) the two dominos would collide. Center of cut is 10mm up, if using 6mm domino the upper edge of cut is 13mm up. In a 30mm thick part that leaves 4mm material between the dominos, in a 26mm part it leaves 0mm gap between them.

[@sharpfocus5]

21 Thumbs Up !!!

[@anthonyevans3207]

I came here so I could build one of these. No way am I paying Woodpecker $700 for your idea.

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

Agree🙂. Build your own or buy Veritas at half woodpeckers price.

[@thomasstapel6824]

WoodPeckers is selling a tool that looks remark like your tool. Theirs is called Mortise Match. Dude did they steal your idea?

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

It was heavily debated when their version was presented a few months ago and I wrote my view on things in the comment section to their video. Sure they "borrowed" some ideas from my jig.

[@richthomas5013]

Great jig but you should always remember people look at everything in your camera frame. Next time, zip up your pants. SMH

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

I hope most people focus more on the jig presentation than my crotch but I will try to improve my zip closing skills.👍😃

[@richthomas5013]

@@CarmoniusFinsnickeri LOL You now have one more subscriber.

[@KotrEnt]

i hope woodpeckers paid you for stealing your design

[@CarmoniusFinsnickeri]

No they are not. There's a long debate about in in the comments to their videos.

[@rbrown2925]

Very nicely designed and presented, thanks. The only change I might make is to use toggle clamps mounted to the movable (triangle) fence. They could save a lot of clamp twisting, especially if there were a lot of pieces to cut that were the same thickness.