Festool Kapex KS 60 Mitre Saw in action (2 of 2)

[@sorenvocamen7081]

Peter, your videos are the best I could find about the saw. You know what you're are doing, you are a very good presenter and I think you're a nice guy I like listening to. Thank you very much! All the best from Berlin, Germany

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Soren, Thank you so much. Greatings to you and your family and all the best for 2020. Peter

[@williamsmith9026]

ive already got the big daddy kapex but, watched the video because i knew i would learn from it. and i did.. the tip about trenching will be taken i liked the way you clamped the zero clearance fence with the notch cut out as well. videos like this give the appearance that i know what im doing and make me money. thanks for taking the time to make them. they are a priceless learning tool to some of us

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi William, Many thanks. The zero clearance idea works so well that I am now using it for all angled cuts on my KS 120. Cheers. Peter

[@jhamilton4173]

Peter, your reviews are just excellent...I wouldn't think of buying anything Festool without your "blessing". Thank you for all your thorough work. I hope Festool appreciates you!

[@NewBritWorkshop]

You are very kind. Many thanks. Peter

[@chopwhite1654]

Best Kapex review I have seen !

[@alansimpson596]

Thank you, Peter for demonstrating this superb machine. I've become a Festool fanatic but the KS120 was just too big for my needs so the KS60 is just perfect.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Alan, If I were starting from scratch it would be a close call for me but I am settled with my KS120 now. Peter

[@alansimpson596]

Thank you, Peter, for your reply. I think you're correct as from an early stage I was taught to buy the best one can otherwise you end up buying twice. That adage has served me well so I'll probably not deviate from it. Looking forward to your next upload. Best.... Alan.

[@bighands69]

+Alan Simpson It depends on what you need the saw for. Other brands may just be as suitable for your such as Dewalt. I own Festool myself because I need accuracy and clean cuts.

[@sashanelson8917]

Hi Peter, 10 minutes after unboxing my new ks60e I found your video and have to say I'm extremely pleased with both. I shall certainly be watching more of your videos. Thank you very much. Perhaps at some point I shall research how to get the loans for your mitre table. Keep up the good work. Sam

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Sasha, If it is plans you are after... In order to get plans or to contact me via email I need your email address. KZbin no longer has a private messaging service and so in order to get in touch you need to place a comment on this or any other video with your email address. The KZbin software should identify and send it to the spam folder for The New Brit Workshop. Nobody will be able to see your email address except you and me. I will then delete your comment so that it does not end up in the public domain and I will then send the plans. Were we to do this the other way around then my comment, with my email address, would appear for all the world to see. Peter

[@offcuts4146]

Just brought the ks60 and its such a nice saw to use. Had an erbauer that done me proud for 7 years. Dust extraction is very good on this saw

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Martin, If I did not have a KS120 already and was looking for a new mitre saw the KS60 would be top of my list. Peter

[@offcuts4146]

I was worried about limitations but it cuts a bevel on 7 inch skirting no problems. Think its worth paying extra having a double bevel saw also was looking at dewalt single bevel but paid the extra for festool

[@davidqueree]

Thanks Peter. Your an absolute legend. I always enjoy watching your videos. 👍🏻

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Wow, thank you

[@pauladventure]

brilliant video, so much better than others that just keep mentioning the make & model in every other sentence! shall be ordering mine tomorrow on the back of your review, carry on the great work.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Paul, Many thanks. Peter

[@James9187]

I have watched a few of the reviews you do Peter, very professional indeed ..

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi James, Many thanks. Cheers. Peter

[@jamesrouse3001]

Love your film. So clear. You come across so well.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Wow, thank you!

[@SteveZodiac777]

Very impressive - the dust collection looks very good. Thanks for an excellent review.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Darrel, Yes dust collection is excellent. Peter

[@chillyspoon]

An excellent pair of videos - thanks

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Fergus, Many thanks. Peter

[@Eorlingur]

Very consistent and high quality on your videos as usual, thank you Peter. Regarding the clamps, I had a similar reaction to yours when I got them with my track saw kit. They have however grown on me and I find myself preferring them to the quick grip ones for several applications. It is probably very subjective, but the solid wood grip and the sense of control when tightening them makes for a very pleasant experience.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Rikard, I suspect that the one that I had with the kit was slightly defective as it would bend at an odd angle when being tightened. I have arthritic joints and I find twisting a small clamp quite tricky when my wrists are playing up. It is good to know that the clamps are popular. Peter

[@DavidStanton]

Thanks for the compliment Peter!

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi David, Many thanks and it is down to your excellent work. Peter

[@antonoat]

Thanks for sharing this Peter, it's appreciated. PS I didn't know if you realised Osmo now make water based wood filler in a variety of colours, I've used it and it's very good indeed, zero shrinkage, sands easily to a lovely Finish and colour matches very well.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Many thanks for this. I have been using Osmo water based fillers for 10 years. They are excellent. Here is the video that I made in 2012: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5-zf6ioZ8Zno7c Cheers. Peter

[@ronh9384]

Hello Peter. Another quality video. Very informative as usual!

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Ron, Very many thanks. Cheers. Peter

[@mikes6844]

Thank you Peter another informative and practical analysis, when I saw the KS60 had been released I was very interested but had no idea how it compared with its big brother. I do now! Happy Easter Mike

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Mike, Many thanks. Peter

[@smitmachinale8281]

Thanks Peter, I got mine today!

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Excellent. Peter

[@jwmc41]

Thank you, Peter, and you didn't say you guys once!

[@DRJMF1]

I was considering using a sliding mitre saw to cut accurate mortises or rectangular trenches. I needed a 2 inch deep cross cut mortise in 4x4 inch fence post. In hindsight, following your great video research, do you think it best to use a handheld circular saw and guide 90 degree protractor to get better results ? Iam worried that the expensive big sliding mitre saws have not so rigid saw arms which would introduce unwanted inaccuracies. Fabulous trench work on the smaller saw. ThAnk you.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

I only used the KS60 for a week or so but I really do like it and expect it to do all you need. Peter

[@fishermanspratfishfilletfe3133]

Can it be micro adjusted if it doesn’t cut at 90 degrees? TIA

[@NewBritWorkshop]

The tool should be able to be adjusted if it is not cuttiung at 90 degrees. Take a look at the user manual. I only borrowed the saw to make the video and cannot help any further - sorry. Peter

[@davidbuchan2224]

Hi Peter, I'm making your bevel/mitre joined drawers with my KS60. It is not quite 45deg - the inside corner of the mitre join is lightly open when the saw is tilted over to its preset 45deg setting. I have looked everywhere - manual, youtube, chat rooms... looking for info on calibration. Tons on the KS120 - nothing on the KS60. Do you happen to know how to adjust it?? I'll keep my fingers crossed.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi David, I only borrowed the saw for a few days but... I have looked at the manual on line and it may be adjusted in the same way as the KS120. Adjustments are covered in the following US manual: www.festoolusa.com/-/media/tts/fcp/festool-usa/downloads/manuals/717270_a_kapex_ks120_us.pdf Take a look at page 22 and onwards. Peter

[@bridevalley]

Hello Peter, your review of the KS 60 inspired me to purchase one so thank you for your excellent review. You mentioned that you have plans for a mitre saw station. Is it possible to see what plans you have available? I don't seem to be able to find your website... I really enjoy all your videos. Your presentation style is refreshingly clear and thorough. Thank you again for helping me learn so much!

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Many thanks for the kind remarks. In order to get plans I need your email address. To find my email address go to my main KZbin page, click the "About" tab and that leads to my email address. I am told this has to be done on a PC. Cheers. Peter

[@bridevalley]

@@NewBritWorkshop Ah, thank you Peter, that explains why I couldn't see your email address; I was using my tablet...

[@adminoffice2197]

Hello. Some advice if it’s ok regarding the 60 / 88 or 120. For standard 90x35 or 45 house framing and a little larger 200x100 laminated beams ( obviously have to turn them over on most of these models. My real question is the 60 suitable. It’s not a contractor job saw for me, I’m building/ renovation a couple units so pro work but low levels of use. I see your vid it powers through a solid Jarrah and pine like it’s nothing. Thanks so much

[@NewBritWorkshop]

It is a particularly good saw but do look at the Festool web site where you will find the maximum depth and length of cut at various angles and compound angles. If the saw can cover the range you want then it will do the job perfectly. Otherwise look at the KS120. Peter

[@gavjav1]

Hi Peter great review, really fancy the KS60 E SET, How do I get your free plans for the mitre station

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Gavin, In order to get plans or to contact me via email I need your email address. KZbin no longer has a private messaging service and so in order to get in touch you need to place a comment on this or any other video with your email address. The KZbin software should identify and send it to the spam folder for The New Brit Workshop. Nobody will be able to see your email address except you and me. I will then send you the plans and delete your comment so that it does not end up in the public domain. Were we to do this the other way around then my comment, with my email address, would appear for all the world to see. Please let me know which plans you need each time you get in touch. Peter

[@shanehertzog5812]

Hi peter have you used a festool electric hand planer ,I haven see you on utube showing how you test this planer.I thought about buying one. thanks for your emails.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Shane, I have asked Festool to lend one to me but it could take a while. Peter

[@chrisflux57]

Couple of things....... 1. The American market have the Bosch GCM 10 GD although cant see any mention or talk of it releasing in the UK market! Do you have any knowledge on this at all? 2. I’m looking for a 10” Mitre Saw but can’t afford the Kapex 120 but would have stretched to the Kapex 60 if the depth of cut was 80mm plus (even though 8.5” blade). I’m after a decent accuracy saw but feel the only decent ‘sturdy’and precise ones on the market are the Glide 12” 🙄 120 and 60. When I say I’m after a cheap one so that in a couple of years I can get say the 120 or it’s replacement I mean I was thinking of say a bosch gcm 10 Sd say £410 but I’m not convinced that it would give me great precision 🤔 and feel why not spen £250 and get similar precision? Also why doesn’t anyone seem to mention the Kapex 88? If you can answer (or begin to answer) these that would be great - make yourself a ☕️ it might take a while 😊

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Chris, I will answer both posts here. The design of a mitre saw is blade size dependent. The bigger the blade then the bigger the frame, the motor and so on. But the Festool design criteria started with what people working in wood on job sites really needed. They wanted portability, accuracy and a reasonable range of cut sizes at different mitre and bevel angles. The KS 60 is a good compromise in that respect. When I did my own study to settle on my choice of mitre saw the Kapex 120 and the Bosch Glide were the final pair that went head to head. The Kapex won despite it cleaning my wallet out. I have never regretted that decision. Guys on job sites want portability and accuracy and the Kapex wins on those scores. I never did see the point of the KS88 as it was not much cheaper than the KS120 but did not have as good a spec. The real bottom line is what your analysis produces, not mine. You will have some requirements that may be irrelevant to me and vice versa. Once you have made your choice and spent the money you have to live with it and human nature will make you defend your decision until you replace the product. Good luck. Peter

[@chrisflux57]

New Brit Workshop Appreciate the quick response. Whenever I buy something I generally want it to cover all areas in terms of quality, precision and something that will last, unfortunately I’m not in the trades but do look for something that will last incase I want to build furniture going forward and precision is the key here! Anyway like everything there’s always a better one! Only recently looked in to the Mitre saw market and honestly was pretty shocked to find you could pay up to £700.00 for a machine and it still have movement left to right on the downward action if only by a couple of mm’s. Although it emptied your wallet so to speak I bet you felt satisfied 👌🏻 Once again thanks for the reply and like every honest viewer of your videos, you do a really good clear informative job 👍🏻

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Chris, Buying a mitre saw is a big thing for most amateur and DIY people and so one has to look carefully. I paid the full price for my Kapex long before I even thought of doing anything on KZbin. I am working on my next workshop notes video which is likely to come out in about 3 weeks time. In it I show the mitre joints that I have created for a pair of chests of drawers - they are absolutely perfect and so only require glue (no screws or dominos) to make a strong and attractive joint. Cheers. Peter

[@chrisflux57]

New Brit Workshop Yes there’s nothing like the feeling of perfection 👌🏻. I’ll look out for the video.

[@hgohlke]

Are you planning to do a comparison between the two kapex saws you have?

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Henning, The KS60 is packed and will be collected early next week. So, I am unable to do a comparison. This may help... In my view the KS120 is a more sturdy machine which is suitable for any environment. It lacks the 60-0-60 of the KS60 which would almost swing it for me if I were doing that sort of work all the time. The KS60 does a better job of trenching but has a smaller area for stock support. If you have tried a KS120 for any length of time you would probably favour that machine. However, for the person in a small workshop or road warrior (shop fitter, kitchen fitter or 2nd fix) then it would make sense. Peter

[@hgohlke]

Hi Peter thank you for your detailed answer! I think it will than be the 120 for me, unfortunately:)

[@peterschut63]

Another great video (both) Peter. I would love to get the plans for my new workshop but when I placed my email address here I could see it. So I removed it. Is there another way?

[@NewBritWorkshop]

You and I can see it but nobody else. Peter

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Do not be clever and use "dot" or anything like that as that could allow it to be visible.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Peter, The plans are on the way. Good luck. Peter

[@peterschut63]

@@NewBritWorkshop fantastic thanks

[@joshy3602]

Hi peter, does the ks60 fit on to a dewalt mitre stand? Thanks

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Josh, I do not have access to a Dewalt stand and so cannot help. Peter

[@martindickerson9376]

Peter all brand new machines cut fantastic when new I would like someone to show what these machines cut and how they perform should we say in one year after having constant use perhaps then we would find out how good these machines are really like ?

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Martin, Most reviews are done with new machines and so it is an even playing field. I do agree that long term tests would be useful and hope that others may fill this gap. I have had my KS120 for 5 years and it is as good now as it was when new. Peter

[@blindhowlingdrunk]

I'm just retiring my old Makita after years of sterling service, a lovely saw. i would buy another tomorrow, but, apparently the new ones have accuracy issues. I will miss the great big table surface. I've lugged that saw on and off site 5, 6, 7 days a week for almost 20 years, a true industrial machine. Festool are ok, but have loads of faults. for instance, Ive never had to change a lead on a Makita tool.EVERY Festool I've owned has had leads replaced multiple times. Leads are over priced and poor quality. hence the detachable lead built in. It's an earner for them to be sure.

[@neilgillies6943]

Good video, thanks - saved me having to RTFM :-)

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Neil, Well done. Peter

[@MultiWarrior63]

Thanks Peter, nice video buddy

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Ken, Many thanks. Peter

[@Desewhgrfdewq]

how is the dust collection? Nice vid

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Excellent - it is shown in the video. Peter

[@عاوزافهمليهكدا]

Thanks for the arts, culture and knowledge you offer (how much are they priced in dollars) and you can send me one like it?

[@NewBritWorkshop]

I do not sell things - please use your search engine to find what you want. Peter

[@عاوزافهمليهكدا]

@@NewBritWorkshop شكرا لك

[@l.k.1011]

Does anybody know if the 27mm hose (e.g. from the CTL mini/midi) also fits the KS60? Thank you!

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Yes, it should but a 36 mm hose would be better. Peter

[@l.k.1011]

@@NewBritWorkshop Thank you for your quick answer, Peter. Lukas

[@jd8603]

Thx again Peter for the clear explanation. I think this one is going to be the one I go for. The 120 is just somewhat big for my needs. Thx again 👍👍👍 how you brits say cherio 😂

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Dave, Excellent choice. Cheers. Peter

[@Anakena3]

Awesome review ! Thanks o

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Glad you liked it!

[@colmohaonghusa6883]

Great video, great presentation skills. if I post my email address here is it not public? Want to get the plans referenced here

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Colm, In order to get plans or to contact me via email I need your email address. KZbin no longer has a private messaging service and so in order to get in touch you need to place a comment on this or any other video with your email address. The KZbin software should identify and send it to the spam folder for The New Brit Workshop. Nobody will be able to see your email address except you and me. I will then delete your comment so that it does not end up in the public domain and I will then send the plans. Were we to do this the other way around then my comment, with my email address, would appear for all the world to see. Pete

[@colmohaonghusa6883]

@@NewBritWorkshop Thanks, I have reached out to you on LI

[@666russevans]

looks like a nice bit of kit but they are very expensive

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Russ, It is difficult to compare like with like as the quality of construction, the accuracy of cut and ease of use need to be factored in as well. Also, having the acknowledged best dust collection on the market makes a huge difference. Peter

[@bighands69]

If you want accuracy then it is going to cost. For many people they do not require accuracy what they need is a reasonably clean cut that looks ok. And that then can mean a cheaper saw. Festool are for detailed accuracy orientated carpenters, Joiners and cabinet makers. When buying festool people can most certainly be sure of its quality. Like the way Mercedes used to be before they went mass market and cheap cars. That is the alternative for Festool creating cheaper tools that more than likely will not be as good.

[@jasonmccann9350]

Brilliant

[@crisilinca9290]

Greetings! I just bought one and the bevel is not 0° - is there any way to adjust it ? If no .... really bad. I will return it

[@NewBritWorkshop]

The great thing that you are able to use is the 30 day free and no quibble return policy. Under the 3 year guarantee you would have been able to get Festool to pick it up, repair it or replace it and then return it to you and all free of charge. Peter

[@chrisflux57]

What prevents it cutting deeper than 60mm? Is it the blade size? So disappointing! Seems as if they have purposely fitted it with a smaller blade otherwise I wouldn’t mind betting the sales of the 120 would diminish!

[@bighands69]

No. At that price point for them to guarantee quality they have to set limits that enables to achieve quality. Going deeper could mean a less accurate cut.

[@puschuim]

It's not accurate, the 45° bevel function is not straight. Check before you buy. I returned 2 of them

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Mine was spot on. Peter

[@bighands69]

+ywein Ryon You made this exact same statement in another video. And I am sure it has the exact same wording.

[@siriosstar4789]

At twice the price of competitors , it is not twice as good . There isn’t one thing , except the pretentious prestige illusion , about festool that makes them worth the excessive price.

[@NewBritWorkshop]

Hi Sirios, I take it you have no Festool kit at all - you should try it. Peter

[@siriosstar4789]

i have , hence the disparaging comment. Careful with the assumptions .