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@mattm77982 ай бұрын
What's amazing is Dark Messiah of Might and Magic got first person medieval melee combat right in the mid 2000s and so few games have done so since...
@LordSkunk7072 ай бұрын
Literally still waiting for another one. Or something that comes close. I want to learn game dev just to make my own at this point lol
@hossburger122 ай бұрын
Exactly
@Ronuk19962 ай бұрын
Few games during the ps3 era did third person gunplay well. Maxpayne 3, Vanquish and Gears of war 3 did well but most did not. Its hard to pull off FPS. Melee.
@peterk27352 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same, it’s still the gold standard
@shabladooo2 ай бұрын
oh, the joys of just kicking orcs into spikes… closest thing is the jump kick from Dying Light
@dregnoff93612 ай бұрын
I think this trend of not letting folk use they're recorded footage forcing them to use the same B roll footage across several channels is really dumb and pointless I'm interested in ur game, see the exact same footage across all my review channels does nothing for my excitement however
@Jojo-nq3bp2 ай бұрын
people like ign can play the game bad; it's best they curate it sometimes
@zackeryh2502 ай бұрын
@@Jojo-nq3bpI don’t think that is the issue. I think it’s closer to the fact that without a day 1 patch, there are lots of bugs in any project. The reality is that the more people play a demo, the more likely something will break. One bad issue before launch can drastically affect sales. Also, some news outlets would probably go out of their way to break the game to generate traffic
@bm-ye1jj2 ай бұрын
This isn’t a new trend it’s been a thing for a long time
@brandont43222 ай бұрын
Using they are recorded footage
@Estarvia2 ай бұрын
Well, given how some previews on other sites for other games have turned out real bad before due to how bad the game was being played, I do understand the apprehension. But yeah, generally I agree that it can also have the effect of making the previews potentially less effective. They probably just want to avoid the risk entirely
@ohnooze18712 ай бұрын
They need to push the date back and clean it up
@danfoster67572 ай бұрын
The games already been pushed to next year unless you want a further delay
@Shadowsteel2 ай бұрын
They still have another 5 months or so to clean it up. I feel like that's enough, if they delay it again all the hype for the game will die down.
@Toma-621Ай бұрын
@@danfoster6757 I definitely do, 30fps targets in a first person game is Bethesda levels of oversight
@danfoster6757Ай бұрын
@@Toma-621 That I agree with although not sure if that will be release then patch 60 later
@simplydawson1061Ай бұрын
@@danfoster6757eventually they gave the outer worlds a 60 fps update on the series x. Still 30 on the s though:/
@PsychoRavager2 ай бұрын
So rare to see a channel that gets early access like this and actually speaks about what's bad and terrible pertaining to the gameplay and performance without leaving out what's good and great still in spite of the shortcomings. Kudos on that!
@chrishaugh16552 ай бұрын
I still can't get over the idea that someone on their design team thought a giant, semi-transparent yellow circle surrounding a yellow number was a good idea for an aesthetic standpoint. It's really horrible looking.
@mchonkler72252 ай бұрын
I heard you can turn the damage numbers off but still, the UI in general looks terrible imo.
@FriskyDolphin2 ай бұрын
Good thing I never play with damage numbers 🙂↔️
@Tike222 ай бұрын
See the thing is I don’t mind the dmg numbers at all, player cyberpunk with them, but the yellow circle behind the crit numbers definitely looks bad and I don’t want to completely turn off that while setting to not see that.
@peterk27352 ай бұрын
What bothers me more is that you have a mini map, so why have these red arrows all over the screen pointing at the enemies.
@alexmikhylov2 ай бұрын
and the number font is extremely fugly
@MetalGamer6662 ай бұрын
Avowed reminds me of Outer Worlds more than I was expecting. I mean... Outer Worlds is not a bad game, but I was expecting more from Avowed. Aside from the gameplay, though, I expect it to be good.
@maboilaurence82272 ай бұрын
I personally didn't care about Outer Worlds, I knew its gameplay wasn't my cup of tea, but I found its writing to be very disappointing compared to Tyranny, PoE and Pentiment. I am used to super janky games, but bad writing is a deal breaker for me, hope this game delivers in that regard atleast, even though Sawyer not being involved is a red flag.
@dathunderman428 күн бұрын
@@maboilaurence8227Sawyer wasn’t involved in Outer Worlds either except for the design of a few weapons.
@Draclord3513 күн бұрын
@@maboilaurence8227that's one area where Obsidian has almost always delivered: writing... Although I think PoE2 was not as well written as the first one and probably the first Obsidian game where I felt the writing was mid.
@TheXiconhoca2 ай бұрын
It has been confirmed by the developers in interviews, but has ANYBODY seen how the game looks and feels like, in 3rd person? It's like they mentioned it in passing and never show it. I love the PoE series and will definitely be playing this, i just wanted a bit more..variety? And some 3rd person thoughts as well. Like, i just want to play a Cypher and do cool shit, by reading people's minds.
@EuDirijo0512 ай бұрын
I came to the video looking for footage or information about this. There is a very short footage of the 3rd person perspective in a recent trailer but in it the character is moving very slowly and looking around the wall of a cave. We can barely see how good the animations are, but the slight movement they do seems kinda junky. We need more footage
@Bigchungus19872 ай бұрын
No cipher class
@Andyman2692 ай бұрын
Probably because the game wasn't designed with 3rd person in mind, 3rd person was only added later
@loadishstone2 ай бұрын
Well every game is NOT FOR YOU. They don't put their passion into games to make everything about what @TheXiconhoca wants. From a design and artistic standpoint trying to design for two totally differe game modes is stupid and I hate that attitudes like yours exist because you force devs to cater to a mode that they know is totally against their vision and ends up chipping at both modes.
@loadishstone2 ай бұрын
@@Andyman269 THANK YOU. I don't even know why Obsidian caved. We are going to hear so much bitching about 3rd person because it's obvious it wasn't built with it in mind but was a marketing decision.
@cam-the-bassist2 ай бұрын
My biggest gripe currently is that they've opted for three fantasy trope classes instead of the range of creative classes they could have chosen from the pillars series. Cipher for example is super thematic, cool conceptually and mechanically, and it ties in to the world building. Chanter would be awesome too. Monk and barbarian sound tropey but in pillars they had really cool execution too IMO
@mattm77982 ай бұрын
To be fair, in first person, it's harder to make multiple classes feel right. That's alot easier in 3rd and isometric.
@Wunderkind042 ай бұрын
I'm genuinely disappointed there's no Cypher. If you're going to focus on the verticality of this game, how could you not include Cypher, blasting enemies around?
@degreeskelvin30252 ай бұрын
There might be Cypher and barbarian like skills in the game
@XiLock_Alotx2 ай бұрын
@@mattm7798didn’t know that. Is this just an educated guess based on years of playing video games or what?
@davidtreece39222 ай бұрын
I'm just glad they chose ranger. I wanna be aragorn in every game I play ever lmao
@mattyb29442 ай бұрын
From what has been shown here, the Living Lands does look really gorgeous
@304enjoyer32 ай бұрын
Nah
@koenuffing44162 ай бұрын
Sure does
@bobcatinsag739Ай бұрын
Yes
@Thrive20032 ай бұрын
Since it is a GamePass title I will for sure be playing it day 1. Hopefully some of the glaring issues can get hammered out sooner rather than later but it looks pretty entertaining overall.
@mattspeer012 ай бұрын
Thank you for your service as a future “beta” tester for the launch. Even on GP I wouldn’t touch this for at least 6 months. There is about a 99% chance it will be a disappointing, buggy mess at launch.
@Thrive20032 ай бұрын
@@mattspeer01 need a refill there, bud? Your glass is looking half empty. No reason to try and squander someone’s excitement over a new release. With it on GP, no harm no foul if it’s a rough launch, I’ll just be out a little time. Nbd. I genuinely hope you’re not going around to various videos spreading your negativity, let people be excited. Let people enjoy things. I genuinely hope you’re able to find something that brings you joy.
@WilliamRivera-n7z7 күн бұрын
@@mattspeer01sounds like you’ll be bored because every game comes out is like this now a days lmfao
@sandman13472 ай бұрын
I'm just a boomer from the 90s so don't mind me but I am actually looking forward tot his game. I don't think it will be perfect or anything but it looks chill. IT's the freedom to create your own character and develop them the way you want to that matters most to me these days.
@WilliamRivera-n7z7 күн бұрын
I mean there is no perfect game and hasn’t been for the longest time tbh.
@PrecariousHusk2 ай бұрын
KCD2 definitely seems like a better buy for Feb.
@Ronuk19962 ай бұрын
I like Grounded games more anyway not a fan of fantasy but KCD2 as game looks better either way. There is also a massive amount of fantasy games lately so gamss like Kingdom come, Mafia old Country and even GTA6 as Modern crime game will all stand out more in 2025.
2 ай бұрын
no doubt. This will go to my "get on sale" category
@taylan55792 ай бұрын
@@Ronuk1996 I don't see enough difference between kcd1 and kcd2.
@EmmanuelTurner2452252 ай бұрын
There is no definitive better here. Buy both or the one you like more.
@SilentSpringzzz2 ай бұрын
@@taylan5579it does look little bit better but i rather improve in mechanics and be stable. Vegas was just ‘the same’ but was best rpg there is
@andrewk.30892 ай бұрын
This is one of those games where I'm less hyped the more I see. Really wish they never switched the art direction :(
@XxW4RB0RNxX2 ай бұрын
They never changed the art direction it looks like deadfire
@andrewk.30892 ай бұрын
@@XxW4RB0RNxX pretty sure they made a huge change in art direction from the reveal trailer to a year or so later when they started putting gameplay a little closer to launch. I think that's been a part of the story of this game's drawn out development
@mattm77982 ай бұрын
Same...the initial trailer looked like Elder Scrolls 6, and then we got gameplay footage and were like, oh it's like ES4
@nd84902 ай бұрын
Outerworlds art style looked like ass, so what made you think this would be any different?
@cmr20032 ай бұрын
The first teaser looked like a comeback to the first game's darker art style, but it seems like they finally opted to remain with Deadfire's more luminous and colorful style. If the storyline is dark and mature, I think it shouldn't be that much of a problem. Fantasy doesn't always necessarily need to be set in a dark woodland. We'll see.
@FilthyCasua12 ай бұрын
After playing games at fps over 60 fps returning to a 30 fps will feel like watching a slide show
@reapov26652 ай бұрын
Very dramatic
@Xsetsu2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I can't do it. 40+ with VRR should be the floor now. It doesn't fix everything but does fix most of the problems. 30FPS is just too low with modern high refresh rate monitors/TVs.
@jimd67422 ай бұрын
Yeah, 30 fps was fine until I got 60. I will never go back. I simply don’t play 30 fps garbage anymore. Makes me feel like I’m having a seizure trying to play a 30 fps game now.
@PlasmaPony2 ай бұрын
30 FPS lock is a deal breaker for me especially if it can’t even hold that. Every time I have tried to play a game on fidelity mode I always switch back to performance. Even something slower like BG3 didn’t work for me since the dialogue scenes seemed noticeably choppier. Playability over graphics every time
@peterk27352 ай бұрын
Man, I built a new PC last year and got a 144hz monitor, fuck 30 FPS, 60 is the bare minimum😅
@theolong66892 ай бұрын
Game still looks like it has potential and could be really good if they polish it up. The combat looks pretty clunky though but it may feel more fun to actually play.
@Entertainment-ev6ob2 ай бұрын
2024 and developers still can’t get first person melee combat right. Has absolutely no weight.
@mattm77982 ай бұрын
Right!!!! Dark Messiah of Might and Magic got it right in the mid 2000s...it's like this weird blindspot developers have where they can't or won't get first person melee combat to feel right.
@Entertainment-ev6ob2 ай бұрын
@@mattm7798 even mods for Skyrim have made combat solid. Ridiculous
@HorizonMatter2 ай бұрын
What do you think of some of the melee combat in Cyberpunk?
@Entertainment-ev6ob2 ай бұрын
@@HorizonMatter haven’t played cyberpunk but it’s not a game designed for melee combat anyways
@makiiavely2 ай бұрын
@@Entertainment-ev6obwell it might not be the star of the show but it's pretty solid for being a first person "RPG" with how fast you move and jump and the feedback is good enough to feel nice. Definitely better than skyrim and the footage we've seen from Avowed based of weight and feel alone
@نونيم-ي4ح2 ай бұрын
For a game that was in development for such a long time I was really hoping that obsidian would take this game to the next level, and while it does seem to be good like the outer worlds i feel that its a bit unambitious and small compared to POE 2 and even KCD 2 which is its main competition.
@peterk27352 ай бұрын
@@نونيم-ي4ح Obsidian have always made amazing RPGs, but I’ve never felt like they were particularly innovative in the gameplay itself. KOTOR 2, NWN 2 and New Vegas were built on top of BioWare/Bethesda tech, Alpha Protocol was very janky, and POE/Tyranny felt not much different than playing Baldur’s Gate 2 back in 2000. Compare that to Kingdom Come, Witcher 3 or Baldur’s Gate 3….these games made me feel like I was playing something new and exciting
@maboilaurence82272 ай бұрын
I'm really starting to think this is being developed by the B team, Sawyer isn't even involved apparently.
@Vaytra2 ай бұрын
The game seems quite pretty, I love a colourful game but the combat weirdly seems a bit...weightless, floaty or something... It feels like you are slicing at the air in front of the enemy, and not actually hitting them. By contrast KCD 2 seems to hit harder, and have more weight in it's 1st person combat, it feels a lot less floaty. Avowed does seem a lot more in the Skyrim style...but something about it already feels little...outdated maybe? I hope the story and game are so good, that it doesn't matter in the end, but I'm hesitant.
2 ай бұрын
yeah, thats because KCD actually simulates contact and physics of objects. Your hit does actually hit the opponent, you can even see where and how you strike. In this, you just do your animation, it plays out, it deals damage, enemy loses hitpoints and shows blood spatter animation in the air - and thats it. Number 1 rule of any meele combat for any dev is: HIT REACTION IS THE KEY. You can have best combat mechanics, but unless players get proper visual and audio feedback for getting hit on enemy, it will feel bland, hollow, worthless. On contrary, you can have really basic light, heavy, block mechanics, but if enemies can be knocked to ground, sent flying by uppercuts, staggered by shield bash, parried and riposted, it will feel great!
@ZainAhmad-jl4vt2 ай бұрын
there are hit animations on enemies no different than in kcd
2 ай бұрын
@@ZainAhmad-jl4vt they are nowhere near that level. They play some random stagger animation, completely disjointed from the attack
@JayRacer2 ай бұрын
Valid statement
@DankyKang962 ай бұрын
Are we watching the same footage?
@Sunflowrrunner2 ай бұрын
I'm still really hoping they can shore this up. The PoE games have such great lore and PoE2 especially is one of my all time favorites.
@malicwilson19652 ай бұрын
Its the game where the dev said 30 fps was good scary statement
@ashleejones5862 ай бұрын
Remember when developers would release ACTUAL demos of their game, that included at least a couple of levels from the game that would actually tell you if you wanted to buy it or not? Now, you have to pay them to beta test their games for them, and they still release broken games.
@peterk27352 ай бұрын
@@ashleejones586 And you know the demo you got from the gaming magazine was the same thing the people writing the preview in said magazine experienced. So you could see if they were being honest or just bullshitting you
@ashleejones5862 ай бұрын
@@peterk2735 yuuuuuuupp. god, I miss those days
@Rowman-q6z2 ай бұрын
Nothing will give me that first time joy Skyrim gave me as a kid
@CompleteProducer842 ай бұрын
Same. And I was way late to the party, first playing Skyrim when it released for Switch. And it STILL gave me an unquenchable feeling of wonder
@longboy56392 ай бұрын
Yes, You are not young enymore
@nexarath2 ай бұрын
I kinda envy you. By the time I played Skyrim I have played so many infinitely better games it took years and a heavily modded game for me to finally trudge my way towards the end. IMHO one of the most overrated games in gaming history, but I'm truly happy for people who have experiences like what you describe.
@mikevismyelement2 ай бұрын
That's because you were a child. I was 19. Skyrim was mid until the DLCs
@t.t62942 ай бұрын
@@nexarath back then there was nothing like it. it really revolutionized open world rpgs but with today's standards it falls short on many aspects
@mr.carter05212 ай бұрын
KCD 2 releases a week before and makes this look like a 360 game.
@Pegla432 ай бұрын
Wow, I just noticed congrats on 1M subs, well deserved!
@murranji37052 ай бұрын
Cutting all the varied classes from pillars down to the basic fighter, rogue, wizard is really kinda sad. Balders Gate 3 shows that Pillars style isometric rpgs with deep quests, stories and maps definitely have an audience. I dont know if this skyrim lite direction is going to work out for Obsidian.
@bellissimo45202 ай бұрын
5:24 - There's a "Skeleton Preist"? Maybe they should also spell-check their monster names before release?
@loadishstone2 ай бұрын
God forbid humans make mistakes. I'm sure you've NEVER fucked up in your entire career.
@ReasonbyNightАй бұрын
@@loadishstone And that on an unreleased game! How dare they do that?
@IlIlllIIIllIIlIIlIIАй бұрын
it's all placeholder at this point. All the text in the game will go through many rounds of localization and translation before release, there's no reason to do any of that when it's still changing.
@mrhawkeye2932 ай бұрын
This is the first video I’ve seen that makes me excited to play avowed. The exploration looks incredible.
@machoadanАй бұрын
Its sad when you mentioned the performance issues because Outer worlds (for me) had no issues on launch. Let's hope they can fully optimise the full release product.
@nejiefelipe2 ай бұрын
Im a little concerned with the combat in this game, it does not seem natural or good, especially the wand... hope for the best tho because i love both pillars of etternity.
@clippedwings0Ай бұрын
I can see why people are comparing this to KCD2 (release date, first person perspective, RPG), but the settings are so different, I think the comparison is apples to oranges. KCD2 is in a purely historical fiction, medieval setting with only two combat elements for them to get right: melee and crossbows / early firearms. Avowed is in a fantasy setting with gods, monsters, and magic. They have to combine not only melee and ranged weapons, but also a variety of spell effects and the ability to mix and match. It just seems obvious to me that one of those two combat systems (and worlds) would be a lot easier to perfect and get running smoothly.
@Bronkowitsch2 ай бұрын
-play as an Godlike -vibrant graphics -chaotic HUD -boring fighting I don't see me playing this. Didn't like The Outer Worlds either...
@ZeroHxC072 ай бұрын
@@Bronkowitsch but everyone talks about obsidian! They wrote new Vegas bro! They know what they are doing!
@ZainAhmad-jl4vt2 ай бұрын
what's the big deal about playing a godlike? colors look beautiful, hud is customizable, combat looks fine.
@ZeroHxC072 ай бұрын
@@ZainAhmad-jl4vt because playing a godlike is already restricting you in an rpg. The character isn’t even voiced so you are not getting a Geralt situation. Being a character with crap on their face is just dumb.
@ZainAhmad-jl4vt2 ай бұрын
@@ZeroHxC07 you can customize how obvious your godlike features are going to look and that would effect your how character percieve and treat you. You have a story in the game, and being a godlike is a part of it,. even the courier of new vegas had his own tale behind him.
@astolfo23052 ай бұрын
@@ZeroHxC07 played new vegas its overrated its pretty mid
@XiLock_Alotx2 ай бұрын
Sounds like it genuinely needed the delay
@plainluke7222 ай бұрын
Definitely
@ZeroHxC072 ай бұрын
@@XiLock_Alotx it needs to start from scratch like bloodlines 2. All of this games are corporate garbage. 0 soul, terrible decisions.
@puppethound2 ай бұрын
What I can't wait for, is the amount of builds you will come up with. Love this channel. Always my go to channel and website.
@digitaldevil75222 ай бұрын
Wait, did you say you have to play as a Godlike?
@Lucitaur2 ай бұрын
Seems like this will be yet another game where the player is the chosen one and will have their ego wanked on each step they take. >_>
@lothara.schmal50922 ай бұрын
@@LucitaurGodlikes aren’t that special tho. They’re just food for the Gods, and that’ll probably come into play in the story.
@Lucitaur2 ай бұрын
@@lothara.schmal5092 Oh, that's good then.
@maboilaurence82272 ай бұрын
@@Lucitaur On the contrary, lore wise Godlikes are sometimes met with courtesy if of celestial heritage, but mostly distrust by common folks, especially when born with death marks.
@superhetoricАй бұрын
@@maboilaurence8227 being restricted to a certain type of character in an rpg is ridiculous
@bluewizzard88432 ай бұрын
Looks great. I am sure I am going to have a blast with this game. Thanks for the preview.
@TheLoneCourier20772 күн бұрын
I hope they fix the hud, it feels like I'm playing overwatch or something but worse. Definitely not what I'd want from a game like this.
@High_Rate136Ай бұрын
One thing I haven't seen mentioned is how the critical hits have an exclamation point after them. That is really clever. The screen looks cluttered with the quest bar on the side.
@mastery79012 ай бұрын
I can do with Avowed while waiting for Elder Scrolls 6
@piercehead722 ай бұрын
Not worried about performance particularly because that’ll change up to (and after) release. Also, playing on PC. I am also worried about the combat though, and I really want to want to get it, as I loved the earlier games, and the world they created.
@Seer_Of_The_WoodlandsАй бұрын
are there settings to adjust the UI / HUD ? to hide some things etc. the screen looks a little too full for my taste at times.
@THEbROCKol2 ай бұрын
Is there some kind of directional parry/block? Seeing those arrows from the border of the screen whenever a blow is coming makes me think about something like that is in place
@SeanTxty2 ай бұрын
It actually looks more fun from the footage you showed vs. the little bit I've seen previously. I would rather they made another POE game, but I will definitely play this and probably enjoy it... I'm sure I'll be wishing it was a true POE3 the whole time I play it, though.
@Gustavo-gh8ym2 ай бұрын
The performance issue is a complete puzzle to me, this game is far from looking next gen and yet it is what it is... What the actuall hell ??
@Maynard05042 ай бұрын
another high contrast game. developers should hire camera crews and editors to tell them how good lighting and color correction looks.
@adamdavidsoddities85732 ай бұрын
Did you actually mean contrast or saturation? Personally, I don't mind high contrast, but heavy saturation is a turn-off for me. I like a muted canvas with certain colors popping. Like, for example, only seeing vivid colors with magic.
@DankyKang962 ай бұрын
There is literally nothing wrong with it, it’s an art style they’ve gone with. Not everything has to be dark and drab.
@TheBrick534Ай бұрын
I think I'll enjoy Avowed since in these types of games, I love the exploration and dialogue more than anything. As long as combat is serviceable and isn't complete dogshit, it's a buy in my books.
@AWearyExile2 ай бұрын
I loved PoE I and II and really didn't like Outer Worlds (very easy, combat wasn't fun) so I'm torn on what Avowed is going to be like. The UI is also very garish, IMO, though not as bad as what I saw of the new Dragon Age.
@papap65572 ай бұрын
As long as I can turn off those damage numbers, yeah, I'll definitely be giving this a try. The PoE world and lore are fantastic, so I'm always down for more.
@davancee21462 ай бұрын
Keeping it real
@mrnoname51628 сағат бұрын
Do i need to have an internet conection to be able to play, or can I play offline as well?
@Darkbelisar2 ай бұрын
I’m hoping that this game turns out well. I really enjoy Obsidian games. The Outer Worlds was a wonderful, contained experience. I am not expecting a 10/10 game, but I am looking forward to playing it. I love exploration and a good story.
@dp27thelight92 ай бұрын
Narrative will make or break this game. Can't really judge the game until it's beaten.
@chubbybehem0th2 ай бұрын
Well, that's a bummer. I was very excited to play a battle mage in this game. I really hope they figure this out by launch.
@cooperm2112 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing these - it's helpful to get good objective insight for these before release
@kylerobinson61022 ай бұрын
I am pumped for this game and I hope the extra time in the oven makes it worth while in the end. Lets go Obsidian!!!
@verglasviq2 ай бұрын
Did you happen to see any skills from the Chanters class in Pillars? I was really looking forward to playing a bardic knight in a Skyrim-like game :(
@Weaver0x002 ай бұрын
10 seconds into the video and omg the UI is utter garbage. 30% of the screen is taken up by that junior web designer doodoo. Also, 30fps in 2024... Need I say more.
@b00giZm2 ай бұрын
Seriously, the UI looks like it was stripped right from a shitty MMO.
@milkyway72162 ай бұрын
Thankfully every UI element in Avowed are toggle-able.
@peterk27352 ай бұрын
@@Weaver0x00 Seriously how big does the boss healthbar need to be??
@saevvyth2 ай бұрын
It's crazy that they decided performance should take a backseat after we have seen developers get shut down entirely after putting out games with poor performance; because they are not salvegable after people already decided they suck. Even crazier still that they apparently made the decision to not care about performance very early on: they set a target for 30fps with no intention of going to 60. It's so wild. It's like they are stuck in 2009 or something. I wonder if they understand this will cost them a lot of players that would have otherwise been interested. I am one of them. Easy pass for me.
@loadishstone2 ай бұрын
What developers have shut down because of poor performance lmao? That's something you made up. Developers shut down because gamers expect way to much, games get bloated as fuck price wise and gamers bitch about below inflation prices.
@sieda6662 ай бұрын
I'm excited for this game, although 75 percent of that is due to the story and world established in PoE 1 and 2. I expect combat to evolve slightly as you level up and get more powers/interesting equipment. Starting as a level 1 mage in most CRPGs for example feels a bit underpowered, but usually by level 6 or 7 you start to see them come into their own especially when you add enemy damage resistances in the mix.
@bellissimo45202 ай бұрын
When it comes to combat, "Dragon's Dogma" is still my favorite RPG. Both physical and magic combat.
@GyroZeppel2 ай бұрын
Actually?
@spacecowboy71932 ай бұрын
Am I crazy or does first person melee look goofy as hell? Holding up a sword and an axe like it’s time for dinner. The swings look like rock ‘em sock ‘em robots. It’s so bad. The combat looks like Skyrim which was bad when it came out in 1943. And then you tell us the performance is bad? Seems like This shoulda just been a walking simulator with choices.
@longlostcoder63222 ай бұрын
1943 lol
@saevvyth2 ай бұрын
Yeah, the lack of interest to refine combat as well as the decision to not care about performance are going to sink this game. I lost all interest after this video (and searching other sources to see if this was accurate; which it apparently is. They straight up said they decided very early on to not even attempt going for 60fps. Like what... how old is their mindset).
@unscathedpotato2 ай бұрын
Funny boi. Made me chuckle
@cmr20032 ай бұрын
What you say about the mage being difficult to use surprises me, as it was pretty powerful in Skyrim, or at least with the builds I created.
@Mythos1312 ай бұрын
That worried me too but the Wizards looked just fine on the extensive video Enfant Terrible posted. I don't Fextralife knew how to play as a Wizard.
@mateosilva73742 ай бұрын
I'm very excited to play this game
@StarBoundFables2 ай бұрын
I hope they tweak magic combat based on your observations. IMO, game’s with solid exploration are awesome. Elden Ring’s way of rewarding exploration’s amazing, & SotE’s a bit more empty… but sometimes the reward is an amazing view ❤ As for 30FPS, I’m okay with that. My first computer ran WoW at lowest graphics, & 30 FPS was a dream, LoL 😄
@spiraling692 ай бұрын
So, we are stuck with playing as a Godlike? No other races??? I bet they did that so they didn't have to model helms and other head gear. Character is from the Vailian Republics, but can only play as a Godlike... Ridiculous
@Dsadsasasad2 ай бұрын
I heard we were only allowed to play human or elf early on, not sure if they expanded races to godlike.
@lothara.schmal50922 ай бұрын
Pretty sure this isn’t supposed to be a classic rpg, it’s more of a story game with dog mechanics and choices. Like Disohonored or smth.
@Day1002 ай бұрын
They should delay it again for a month or two and hire some for just optimization. It really seems like Obsidian really needs more people optimizing their 3D games these days.
@wile1234562 ай бұрын
The animations are really good and snappy, they've taken inspiration from skyrim combat mods. Hit-stop and clear feedback. The hitmarkers are kinda unneccesary because its very obvious when an attack lands.
@prestonwinters96562 ай бұрын
Still super pumped they have quite a few months to polish and balance things so still my most anticipated game
@kewlkat27122 ай бұрын
Are there not helmets? I only see 4 slots 2:45
@BlodofUlfhednar2 ай бұрын
He said everyone is required to be a Godlike, which means no head gear because most(?) Godlike have protrusions of some variety from their heads and therefore cannot where headgear of ANY variety. The whole forced race alone is a bummer. Anyway, just wanted to give you an explanation.
@xD-st4gu2 ай бұрын
Waited for so long, should've known after outer worlds combat that avowed was not going to be it
@arkannon16822 ай бұрын
Outer Worlds combat wasn't bad at all. It was much better than all ES and Fallout games combat-wise. I still didn't like the art style and how damn talkative all the npcs were.
@Ronuk19962 ай бұрын
Should non Obsidian are not great at combat.
@hiephiep122 ай бұрын
@@arkannon1682 Are you seriously with a straight face tell me Outer Worlds combat is better than F4 and F76? Half Life from 1998 has better shooting than Outer Worlds and that's saying something.
@304enjoyer32 ай бұрын
This is fantasy outer worlds. Which is bad 😂
@arkannon16822 ай бұрын
@@hiephiep12 I admittedly didn't play F76 and forgot that it existed. F4 I don't know about other builds but my sniper build certainly felt much better in Outer Worlds than my sniper build in F4 and guns generally felt better. Now I still prefer F4 over OWs in general but I am just discussing the combat here.
@deRNmEpRrMmАй бұрын
Regarding performance: I'm pretty sure (just from the footage in the video) that the game is using some kind of real time raytracing. This might be software or hardware based, I don't know that. But real time lighting of that quality level is still quite expensive and not perfectly implemented in many engines. There are a few other things that might lead to the bad performance, but I'd bet that the lighting is a large chunk of the cost.
@badrhetoric56372 ай бұрын
I'm really looking forward to this. I didn't play Pillars as I'm not really into CRPGs, I prefer 1st or 3rd person. With that said, didn't they say this would have a 3rd person choice?
@spikeimperial2 ай бұрын
The thumbnail threw me back to windwakers earth dungeon face that you have to shine with the mirror shield
@darrenthompson79952 ай бұрын
Is it switchable from first to third person?
@tobybll2 ай бұрын
is this game switchable to 3rd person? Cause the first trailers never showed anything about being in first person. This bugs me now
@DiesHorridly2 ай бұрын
In terms of performance I think they have time to get to the bottom of it until they release. I didn't know it'll be close to KCD 2, that's rough as I'm very interested in both games...
@patrickblahАй бұрын
I feel like the mage may finally make me use the extra buttons on my mouse! But the delay was a bummer, but will allow them to polish the game each time people tear apart the footage obsidian has addressed the issues. So I feel like they will use the time to polish and use the community input.
@maunzquisitorfd99872 ай бұрын
Yeah i know Avowed will be a fail when IGN says the Ranger class is the best way to play this game 😬, no thanks but i would play Pillars of Eternity 1-2 again over Avowed.
@geraltgrey-mane69513 күн бұрын
How is 3rd person in this? clunky or good?
@gamersgalore65342 ай бұрын
I am starting to agree with notion gamepass is reducing the standards of games being released. The game does not need to be gold standard, just enough to be worth checking out in gamepass.
@quantumwitcher93762 ай бұрын
That's such a stunted narrative
@timbillins18482 ай бұрын
I hope you can turn a lot of that visual clutter off in the menu...i dont need huge damage numbers appearing iver enemies heads, it looks awful
@chaoswolf9452Ай бұрын
after playing games at 60 and even 120 fps, it is really hard to switch back to 30, I play mostly on PC nowadays, so hopefully it runs well on my setup.
@CyberDopamine2 ай бұрын
The HUD is so distracting and attention grabbing. How can you immerse yourself in the Devs art and world when you have giant hit points and street fighter health bars. Its a midevil game not overwatch
@notimportant86432 ай бұрын
5:28 so pretty much like every other video game ever made. Wizards ALWAYS start weak and end up as God's late game
@tatienouorest33582 ай бұрын
I’m Skyrim they start weak and end up slightly less weak
@GrimMrStewart2 ай бұрын
@@tatienouorest3358infinite mana with cost reduction enchantments on destruction spells is pretty OP
@CENmassTER862 ай бұрын
Man its hard for me to go back to 30fps..I recently tried to run through anthem one time and it was jarring. Almost felt like I was dizzy sometimes
@NotMe-z5i26 күн бұрын
Didn't even know this game was a thing. POE 1&2 are some of my favorite games I've played in the last decade. The story and world stuck with me long after I finished them. I not sure I'm liking the feel and look of this one. I've never been a fan of the floating damage numbers in a single player game. Also, get a MMO style mouse and the 1-9 keys for casting will never be an issue....
@ope314Ай бұрын
Looks janky, but I expect it to be fun and I love Obsidian's writing. Just not a day 1
@theobrominator2 ай бұрын
Weird how all the B-Roll footage is combat based but the game is supposed to be mostly a narrative driven one. I am not completely sold on the combat yet, as it looks oddly stilted. Will have to wait and see!
@ZeroHxC072 ай бұрын
The fact you have to play as a godlike is already a massive turn off right of the bat. What a terrible decision.
@AtreyusNinja2 ай бұрын
maybe we can use the helm in this game :3 who know
@jason2089Күн бұрын
I literally listened for Stealth Archer as I was tempted to re-install Skyrim or FO4.
@FlashmanVC2 ай бұрын
Between the HUD and all of the other floating information, the screen is extremely cluttered. Incredibly immersion breaking. That is not a good thing for a first person fantasy RPG
@shadyrebob59992 ай бұрын
I am excited for this game. Love POE and the lore. I heard from other reviewers you may be able to change to 3rd person view? Interested to see how that plays.
@techieg33k2 ай бұрын
Did they let you play in 3rd Person?
@Ajbolt892 ай бұрын
Damn that beginning with the words popping up super aggressively makes it impossible to focus on anything else on screen. Super glad that stops after the first 30 seconds or so.
@dombgoldbrump92642 ай бұрын
I have no idea what it is about the visuals but if someone told me this is a mobile game I wouldn't be surprised whatsoever.
@raykael2 ай бұрын
I'm way ahead of you man, the moment I read the whole "30 fps" shenanigan I already erected a tombstone in my heart on the idea that this game is going to be good upon release...
@ArtemisthempКүн бұрын
Devolper have said that Xbox S is keeping them back from really stretching their muscles. I most likely gonna wait for review to see what they say as I'm not sure I can do a Skyrim now a day.
@yespetto2 ай бұрын
I got used to Elder Scrolls combat as a way to push the story I was role-playing in the universe, and a fun opportunity to experiment with its systems, even though it is not good. As long as this game has that expansive world where you can role-play your character and find your own story, I can forgive the suboptimal combat. If the world is bland like some of Obsidian's have been (ex: The Outer Worlds), I'm definitely going to feel aggravated by the combat. So yes, I'm now a bit more cautious about this game, and will wait for more in-depth reviews that touch on the role-playing systems and lore, otherwise likely getting it when it's on sale.
@AtreyusNinja2 ай бұрын
i was able to play POE1 and POE2 in italian cuz those games were translated, but ATM on steam it say only "english", not even spanish or anything else, i HOPE they gonna translate the game in italian cuz i would enjoy it more
@DerpFisk0151Ай бұрын
I've noticed a trend with fantasy games lately like Avowed and Veilguard where the UI is just so cluttered, and they also have fonts that just don't sit well with me? Anybody else feel this way?