Ffion Davies Fires Back at Incels & Fights for Fair Pay for Women in Jiu-Jitsu

[@TheFarmMMA]

Jiu jitsu is the same for both genders, if you stall, your boring, if you scrap and scramble its rad af

[@Blomph1]

Its almost more impressive with women because its mainly technique

[@JhonJairoBernal-i3j]

Of course you can train Jujitsu and be feminine. Lying down with others of the same sex and hugging them on the floor is very feminine, that's why jujitsu is for women and for gays.

[@TheUrbanBeekeepers]

you're

[@jamesmccusker2260]

Shut up

[@M-dv1yj]

No. It is not the same at all.

[@thuuryn6249]

Looking forward to the CJI 2025 women's bracket 🤙

who ?

[@__________o____________]

👎⛔️🚫

[@alfiesolomon3531]

@@__________o____________ Amanda Leve, Danielle Kelly, Liz Clay, Bea Mesquita, Luiza Monteiro, Jasmine Rocha, Helena Crevar ( if Danaher allows), Mackenzie ofc, Kendal Reusing, Nicolini, Margot Ciccarelli to go on a savage full moon battle against BMF Ffion Davies...could be fun to watch

[@ItsSliWill]

@@__________o____________fuark arp 😂

[@EfrenMartinez-t4w]

Thanks Homeskillet 🍳 Note to self. I only recognize about 3 of those names. #oldasswhitebelttears​@@alfiesolomon3531

[@HoboGardenerBen]

Seems like the talent pool isn't as deep as the men. But the best way to make that happen is to incentivize natural talent and the hardest workers to choose grappling by making it profitable for the female athletes. Ffion puts on a great show, and there is rising talent like Helena Craver. Now seems like a great time to pay grapplers well, the sport is ready to explode in popularity because of CJI. ADCC built the vibes over the years but CJI has initiated a new era.

[@dvces]

Yeah, they can make it super profitable by doing onlyfans collabs

[@HoboGardenerBen]

@@Pler1978 I hear ya, but the only way to get better lady athletes is to incentivize them in some way. I don't mean as much as the men, of course, just for their own pathways to profit to exist.

[@andrewcastaneda9382]

As a man with daughters, thank you

[@Gamingniqqa]

Imagine them getting railed

[@B-RaDD]

Yes ^^^^^^

[@LumpyLumpybudz]

Probably an illegal alien.

[@McMuffin74]

😂

[@papamosko3946]

As a man with sons, condolences

[@yamjam7434]

People need to STOP making this about women and man. The ATHLETE who draws eyes gets paid more. THATS IT. And ffion DRAWS EYES. And should get paid more than other ATHLETES MAN OR WOMEN who draws less eyes than her. She probably does anyway

[@JR7SQUARE]

This, that’s it. Is that simple. People often make this complicated by making this about gender inequality where it really isn’t. Either people want to see you or they don’t.

[@yamjam7434]

@@JR7SQUARE EXACTLY. People don’t whine when women celebrities make more money than some males. They get it in celebrity business but can’t seem to get it in pro athlete business when ITS THE SAME SHIT. People watch=money that’s it no make no women. THANK YOU for understanding seriously it amazes me how some people don’t get this

[@M-dv1yj]

She is good for a woman and I still don’t want to see her grapple🤷🏽‍♂️.

[@M-dv1yj]

@@JR7SQUAREbut the talent pool is disproportionate across gender lines. You’re the one making it about gender. If it was about skill we would not even know her name.

[@GregMcL]

"If it was about skill..." It is about skill, and that's why we know her name.

[@shwheat6315]

Ffion Davies is a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu juggernaut and a GOAT and a badass hope to see her compete more in gi and no gi 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@gregluke8992]

How about clothes or no clothes

[@mantalksatfridge6811]

Gotta say it must be a pretty ordinary coach saying that different judo throws aren’t for women. Judokas like uta abe have some of the most diverse throwing in the sport, and huge throws as well.

[@MuayThaiDreadlock]

Cant wait for Ffion and Helena

[@israelCommitsGenocide]

watching juiced up women might as well just watch the guys

[@AlexStrimbanu]

Ffion you did amazing! top quality skills shown - you deserve all the success! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿💪💪💪

[@devilordx]

I love jiu jitsu so much thank you Craig, Seth and the whole CJI team ! thank you history was made. The Women’s division is a must at CGI 2

[@sidifmiin4418]

Thanks a lot Ffion you are a breath of fresh in this sport , you are an inspiration to me

[@WizardofOz83]

Great match! Thank you 🙏♥️

[@anonymous_end_user]

Don't blame the dudes. Just like the NBA, It's the women who aren't supporting and watching at the same rate as men

[@ifthatthenthis3797]

Women don't like sports lol why would they watch don't blame anyone and be grateful you get to do jitsu and people pay you at all

[@joebeast15]

@@anonymous_end_user exactly. The people that view this woman’s matches are more than likely 95% men. Can’t stand this woman.

[@godisnotinvisible]

​@@ifthatthenthis3797 "Women don't like sports." 😂

[@TheStrengthScholar]

​​@@godisnotinvisible There was a study done on this and men watch sports at nearly twice the rate that women do and the 19% of men reported that they watch sports on a daily basis and only 1% of women reported they watch sports on a daily basis. So not only are there nearly double the amount of male sports fans those male fans also watch at a dramatically higher rate than women do. So the guy you were mocking was completely correct. On average women don't like sports. As a matter of fact 39% of women report that they don't watch sports at all and a further 23% of women report that they watch sports less than once a month.

[@crystics1439]

@@TheStrengthScholar "incel noises" Ffion probably

[@ChrisF-fx5du]

She is super tactical and a killer

[@AdriaanNothnagel]

I never thought you would win that lady from Brazil. I always get the impression that the Brazilians are invisible when it comes to BJJ.

[@MeghanWhite-d1g]

i want to see an interview between Fiion, Mackenzie and Gabi with Alex

[@Mr5uper5onic]

Loved your match, very exciting

[@AbdullahMikalRodriguez]

This is the WNBA fallacy. Women don't make less because of discrimination... they make less because the sport is about how much attention you can bring to the fight. It's not about "who's suffering" the most. Women's BJJ doesn't garner as much attention as men. That's just the way it is. Unlike the WNBA though I do think women are extremely entertaining and skilled in BJJ. There isn't the same skill gap as there is with the WNBA example. Women are very good at BJJ. There just aren't a lot of them competing. In the future more Women will compete in BJJ at a high level and we will see pay increase for everyone. But if it doesn't equal the men that doesn't mean your being discriminated against...

[@Linkgt]

Thank you. Someone that makes sense and not a simp.

[@PauIdenino]

I-incel!!!!! How dare you! (sarcasm)

females try to guilt trip you into watching

[@joebeast15]

She’s a typical left wing loon talking about stuff she has no clue about. Anyone that uses the term “toxic masculinity” and “wage gap” unironically in a sentence I simply can’t take seriously.

[@samurai74785]

I agree with all of that until you said women are very good. They aren't, but that is often why it can be entertaining as its funner to watch due to the scrambles and lack of skill comparative to men

[@GeorgeMcG90]

Top scrap Ffion. Hopefully see you as number 1 seed next year in CJI's women's bracket. Legend!!

[@molnoob3451]

Who is she arguing against? Gordon Ryan is supposedly the incel?

[@alanyt2000]

If you don't know it might be you

[@israelCommitsGenocide]

literally nobody, she does this a lot.

[@israelCommitsGenocide]

literally nobody she does this a lot. (commented again since the smallhats filter is deleting my posts)

[@miguelladinodevera614]

Ffion, u will have to be the favorite for next year's CJI. The women's division is gonna be gunning for u since ur the only woman to win in CJI so far. That alone is enough to be inducted into the future CJI Hall of Fame.

[@someguydoingtheinternetgood]

​@Pler1978 chill out bud, this dude is just some horny indian who wants fion to see him. no need for the life story

[@Scrunchy05]

@@Pler1978 I dont know what you're talking about "boring" superfight lol I agree with all the other points of there not being enough interest in the womans event to create a whole bracket but it seems like you have exterior motives if you called that fight boring. There was alot more absolute closed guard stall fest in the mens brackets. Round 1 with dern and ffion was literally a fluid hard jj match and scramble. The second round was literally ended in less then a minute with ffion doing a headlock hip sweep directly into a armbar. Idk how you could call that boring lol

[@uneedamuracle]

Same thing I’ve been saying for years about the WNBA that no one talks about… the talent pool is too small to even consider justifying equal pay. How many women train BJJ compared to men worldwide? 1/10? 1/50? 1/100. In basketball it’s probably similar. Most high schools can’t even field a girls basketball team.

[@E_Gfree]

Nahhhh I disagree here. What kind of logic is this? Ffion is “fighting for women’s pay and representation” while choosing a tournament where only 2 women competed against each other. ADCC did more for the representation of women this year because… there were actually a lot of women competing…. Remember this has nothing to do with how good she is. Simply, objectively, her message is a little muddied when choosing a comp where only she and another get compensation and there is no woman’s division. Only a men’s.

[@haythamrushamba838]

@@Pler1978Jesus christ you must suck the life out of everyone around you

[@thomasparkes5707]

I watched for Dern, but I learned who Ffion was

[@nuggert]

@@thomasparkes5707lol

[@ScrewYou_]

Craig described the concept about Ffion-Mackenzie match-up: you invite two of the best in there to get people invested in it. It's like if you want to popularize football in USA - you make Barcelona-Real Madrid, not Osasuna-Watford) That was the whole point of this match. As for women in BJJ - strength-wise, yup, not the same. The scrambles may be fire though, cause dexterity with females is just different.

[@briangamingclashroyalmadde5286]

​@@Pler1978 no one cares what you think goofy you're the typical bjj sheep same as old man complaints u learned from your pill abusing daddy the filler is what normalizes the wrestlers and expands attention on the sport yall cry about wrestlers not being big enough draws to complain about money but don't want them to use THERE platform to express it go watch adcc and destiny mysoginstic cuck

[@burry218]

-60 Women's bracket bouts be wild

[@gilbinman9873]

CJI was amazing. They should do more events throughout the year leading up to the yearly main event.

[@mattcollins9499]

You're a legend Ffion!!!

[@Illustrator76]

Everyone is free to do what makes them happy. I have zero issue with women doing Jiu-Jitsu, but I personally don't like rolling with them for various reasons, and none of them are the fear of getting "beaten." As others have said, 2 good women BJJ players (Ffion and Mackenzie) does not suddenly make women's BJJ relevant. More female BJJ players are needed to step up and become known in order to increase the talent pool and put on exciting matches that people want to see. Caitlin Clark (and a few others) have brought more excitement and interest to the WNBA, and that's why that league is getting more eyeballs on it now than it ever has before. Will it ever rival the popularity of the NBA? No, but people are interested in the WNBA now more than they've ever been in the past, because certain players have shown up and captured the fan's attention. And as far as BJJ women being "girly girls" vs. being more "masculine", again, do whatever the hell you want to. It's your life, but just understand the ramifications of your actions. Most "masculine" men probably have zero issue with their woman doing BJJ, however, what they don't want is that woman now thinking that BJJ makes her a badass or the "man" of the house and trying to use that to emasculate her boyfriend/husband, or just generally be a complete pain in the ass to deal with.

[@MrNanomonkey]

Found the incel 😂

[@Illustrator76]

@@MrNanomonkeyThanks for calling yourself out. You're certainly not talking about me, because I said I had no issue with women doing BJJ or being how they want to, I just simply stated that there are positives and negatives to every decision you make in life. If you like being the "woman" in a relationship and getting p*gged to oblivion every single night, have at it, but most tradition "masculine" men don't. Real men want to come home to peace and tranquility, not having to argue over every single thing because the other side is trying to show how much of a "badass" they are. And for the record 🤡, any man who isn't willing to put up with that kind of mess is VOLUNTARILY celibate, not the other way around. Get your insults right.

[@PauIdenino]

@@MrNanomonkey Great argument

[@joebeast15]

@@MrNanomonkeyI agree with this guy and I’m married with two kids. Am I an incel too?

[@Illustrator76]

@@joebeast15It's comical how that term gets thrown around so freely isn't it? Refusing to put up with behavior that a man finds unbecoming from a female is actually being VOLUNTARILY celibate, not the other way around. Internet trolls don't use logic though, so I'll let that dude remain in his mom's basement thinking he got a "sick burn" on me 🤣.

[@PauIdenino]

Women's pay shouldn't be artificially increased for the sake of it. They should get paid relative to how many people watch them.

[@joebeast15]

Which is of course far fewer. Am I the only one that can’t stand this woman? Anyone that uses the term “toxic masculinity” and “wage gap” unironically in a sentence I can’t take seriously. She’s a typical left wing loon that talks about stuff she doesn’t know anything about.

[@HerculesLoyd]

Normally I would agree, but the mens pay was artificially increased to a million dollars, so why not.

[@PauIdenino]

@@HerculesLoyd How was it arfiticially increased though? That's how much money they bring in.

[@Storytelling_at_Scale]

I found her match more entertaining than much of the 80k+ men’s that’s for sure

[@HerculesLoyd]

@@PauIdenino it’s literally not. CJI undoubtedly lost a ton of money. They didn’t even have a streaming deal and had minimal sponsors. It was only possible because it was financed by very wealthy anonymous backers. At this stage it’s literally a charity organization, same as the WNBA except actually exciting.

[@stylejitsu]

Great fight!

[@JoeBarrow021104]

100% just be you and keep kicking a$$.

[@felixr.6438]

I love to watch Ffion, simply because she always goes for the kill.

[@billypersistent6127]

"Anti Incel" may not be the best B Team branding decision.

[@Fredrikbb]

She's very PC.

[@MrCk1234567890]

@@Charles-Gradyincel spotted lol

[@MrCk1234567890]

@@Charles-Grady if someone getting called an incel bothers you that’s pretty embarrassing for you lol

[@thomasparkes5707]

incel just means involuntarily celibate why u making fun of the ugly niggas​@@MrCk1234567890

[@rafaelcastillo8573]

Sensitive much??

[@CIRCLEOFTONE]

I think Gabi vs Craig just became the Forrest Griffin vs Bonnar of JJ. Gabi imo should be an ambassador like Forrest is post competing at CJJ from now on. As a Welsh boyo is great to see Ffion destroy...Her adrenaline/pre-workout is evident in this video 😂

[@田中一郎-u5c]

Jujitsu means the Dancing Octopus battle (笑)

[@candelariotorres4590]

Nobody is pushing women’s grappling to the back burner. If you want more pay, you have to bring more eyeballs to the game.

[@ÉdouardBrasseur]

Thats not how it works

[@teejay8222]

Selective reading?

[@alasauerkraut]

meaningless drivel

[@PauIdenino]

@@ÉdouardBrasseur That's exactly how it works

[@joebeast15]

@@ÉdouardBrasseuryes it does

[@cgaspara]

I think fighters need to realize they’re in the business of sales as well as fighting. Look at Ronda Rousey she made more money than 95% of the males in the ufc.

[@nicholasnj3778]

she should run her own event, women's only and split the profit (and thats income after expenses, rent arena, security, pay refs etc) with all the women, if the event make a $5 million profit and there are 96 competitors they will all make what they deserve

[@liukang85]

yep

[@israelCommitsGenocide]

haha theres the answer but you know she wont cause they would NEVER get as much of a draw without men there.

[@evr0.904]

They should do that, but they will lose money. Guaranteed.

[@jxxxhy]

But then they would have to borrow money from men 😂

[@ishmael_03]

Yeah, and get women to support her which will never happen because women like seeing the best of the best compete which is always men! 😁

[@ciobanucatalin6187]

your fight was great ! really really good fight...if all women fights would be like that, I am all in to pay them even more !

[@sheagiesler]

Honestly , in this sport, id say the women are just as entertaining, makes sense.

[@Monscent]

Ffion vs Chris Cyborg would've been more fun!

[@liukang85]

agreed

[@millerino6343]

We love you Ffion. CJI really brought some of the most important athletes in the sport to the spotlight. So lovely

[@WesternBlur]

Those darn incels and all their power. I’m glad they weren’t able to victimize this famous woman. That would be so unfair! They are just so used to getting their way, Im glad someone was able to stop them!

[@sharlah4057]

Agreed. Incels! They only have a voice on the internet because they're on their keyboards ALL DAY making thousands of negative comments cursing anyone who goes outside! Get some vitamin D incels!

[@Name-ql7jf]

If this video upsets you, it’s about you.

[@liukang85]

😂😂😂😂

[@PauIdenino]

@@Name-ql7jf If the comment upsets you, it's about you.

[@Name-ql7jf]

@@PauIdenino I don’t have an issue with women, just weirdos. You don’t have an argument, so you borrowed mine.

[@codingtranquility]

That finish was bonkers

[@smashmusique]

I don't understand how the word incel has replaced the word troll or hater. it's not the same meaning. There is a crisis about incel, which just means involontary celibate. People are getting lonelier statistically and now it's used as an insult?

[@sk-wq5lu]

it's a way to control male behavior. just the modern day virgin insult.

[@erikustinov]

How can somebody be “involuntary” celibate? If you can’t get laid, you can’t get laid lmao

[@jawz2005]

Although mens mental health shouldn’t be a joke for many unfortunately it is

[@drunkpaulocosta]

​@@erikustinov it mea s they can't get laid despite trying. Which causes them to degrade mentally. The problem is Ffion is the female opposite. She thinks men owe her attention. When the reality it's the a woman's job to attend women sports. He'll bring the kids and ya husband if ya want. But not attending events is why the women's game doesn't make money

[@MrShoblang]

​@@sk-wq5luno it's not. No ones trying to control male behaviour. Incels are just wanks who hate women

[@jonathandebruyn6781]

Add a women's division, replace the heavyweights with lightweights, and move the semifinals to the last day.

[@StrappinYoungChad]

Semifinals were on the last day, you mean quarters?

[@jonathandebruyn6781]

@@StrappinYoungChad Yes! Whoops.

[@Goon.29]

I'm all for just weight classes and no gender separation. Pay would be equal then since there would be no gendered tournaments/matches.

[@Jeroen4]

Put butts in seats, get paid more. Children get this.

[@deco2132]

If more women watch BJJ then female BJJ practitioners would get paid more. Men generally like watching other men compete.

[@SoyMasol]

Women watch women compete in BJJ all the time. The problem is getting women showcased. There are some matches but they get overshadowed by showing the same three guys competing against each other.

[@sharlah4057]

I had a Flo grappling subscription for a while which I purchased specifically to watch a female friend compete in ADCC. They didn't save her final match in the archive so I only saw the last half live and then couldn't go back to watch the whole thing. On KZbin you WILL see more women watch BJJ. Flograppling is shite and STUPIDLY expensive!

[@dfpguitar]

Every female combat sport except boxing is exciting to watch if the talent and dynamism is there. Female boxing just looks pitiful compared to mens because upper body strength is so much less. And only two minute rounds. Female kickboxing, MMA, jiu jitsu, judo and wrestling are all rad though.

[@evr0.904]

Jiu jitsu people don't watch jiu jitsu. It's not a profitable sport.

[@primusucks_]

fuck yeah CJI > ADCC

[@Omidion]

Man not sure who thinks the women BJJ is boring...they probably didn't watch a single match. The amount of aggression from women is insane, they are vicious. Always worth watching, since the rules are the same as for guys, so there is not handicap for them, you are just watching martial artists, nothing more.

[@markwrenn5965]

She looked so impressive at CJI.

[@PB2001PB]

whining is so pathetic. You get paid if attract paying customers. Nothing else.

[@MrShoblang]

You speak with a lot of confidence for someone with no clue

[@herbthompson8937]

​@@MrShoblangI guess you don't understand how economics work.....

[@Dunskies118]

Hells yeah!!!Get girly girls into bjj with a banging instagram, I think only girls can get girls into bjj. Tryed to get my wife into bjj for evvver. She came with me to a competition and met some girls at my gym and boom shes interested in taking classes now. Keep killing it.

[@jhick07]

Great super fight, highly entertaining

[@StuntTriple]

I think women's combat sports is just as entertaining as the men. I mean there's weight divisions and separation to get everyone on a level playing field. With the explosion of women's wrestling in the US I am excited to see some of them transition to Jiu Jitsu!

[@Shiftdougler]

You get paid what people are willing to pay you

[@TheStrengthScholar]

Nothing I hate more than self victimization. This isn't about her being a woman I'd be just as annoyed if a black dude was talking about "breaking barriers" being a black man in BJJ even though I'm black. If you want to get paid more money then become so entertaining you can't be denied dont whinge about what's fair or how much you "deserve_

[@liukang85]

Welcome to 2024 where it's alright to use profanity directed specifically at males, but apparently it's still all about respecting others

[@hari9885]

😿 👶

[@misterinvincible]

@@hari9885 🤡

[@PauIdenino]

You're a horrible person if you call a woman the W word, but it's fine to use the I word.

[@joebeast15]

It’s funny how anyone that says anything bad to her is an incel. I don’t like her and I’m married with two kids

[@drunkpaulocosta]

​@@PauIdenino nope both are bad... catch up dummy

[@ihatesjws669]

If you don't bring in the money then you shouldn't get the pay.

[@trident272-m6q]

Maybe if Ffion cried less and stopped trying to make this a men-vs-women thing then more people would want to pay to see her

[@ScoopTheMighty]

It was a great match!

[@MrZachgonz]

A female bracket would be great.

[@jacquedegatineau9037]

Ffion should organize a tournament with the top 32 female grapplers with 1.5 male superfights and see how it goes.

[@SayCheeseAndDie01]

Sounds hot, I’d watch.

[@stevenslawson8926]

Great interview. Awesome to see her let her full personality shine. I watched the match live, and it was amazing jiu jitsu. The girls 100% deserve their own well paid bracket. At CJI 2. I'll buy 2 tickets tomorrow for CJI 2. B-team get through your post event party binge, god help anyone parting with Craig. Then immediately start looking for funding for CJI 2. Dana White should personally write a $5 million check, or Joe Rogan. Or Zuck. You 100% deserve a second production.

[@killercour]

That match was a lot of fun

[@ivokaltchev8510]

Ffion is extremely good at JJ, and also very positive and well spoken.

[@tom18807]

Ffion is a beast in comp. 🔥🔥🔥

[@tarriverblues]

need a CJI women's bracket

[@kitman]

Let the market works itself out

[@ErnestoRodriguez-ym5qf]

Great grappler aside from that blah blah blah, crying women sports fair pay blah blah blah cry more. Leave politics aside, focus on the sport

[@SB-wj6dw]

Yeh, I want a free Lamborghini, doesn't mean I'm entitled to it and if i don't get it, iv been victimised and hard done by. That's not how life works. And in general, the tougher and stronger a chick gets, the less attractive she is to men. This isn't an opinion, this is nature.

[@harrison39]

Ffion was great loved her performance

[@Kuwaitisnot_adeployment]

Where does she argue online I can't find any comments from her anywhere. I'm a fan but I was going to mess with her a little bit.

[@shervm.6597]

naw u a weirdo

[@drunkpaulocosta]

She probably uses an alternative so the bad shit she says doesn't come back to bite her. She's probably the one pretending to be a dad thanking Ffion for basically shitting on men for no reason. All because of a few dorks with Jo job who were mean to her.

[@KaninTuzi]

One thing about jiujitsu is that the women are just as exciting to watch as the men ✌

[@LumpyLumpybudz]

No they aren't. This person is clearly a progressive sodomite

[@austingravino5897]

Ass ass ass🍑

[@millizaable]

They are so flexible, some of the tactics don't work like arm bars and such... Even in her match she had to chicken wing the arm bar in order to get gal to tap...lol..

[@M-dv1yj]

No they are not. Other than watching the fake Brazilian get beat and watched. Gabby vs Craig . I don’t want to see women fight or grapple at all.

[@DeadlyCrypto]

@@M-dv1yjbro you are under literally every comment spewing hate. How small is your pp?

[@haasklaw764]

Female sport is literally charity 🤣

[@HowardJunssen]

Facts

[@Uberkoolsound]

Great message for females

[@yutakasama2024]

She gonna try to turn bjj lgtbq give her time

[@millizaable]

What are you talking about... BJJ.. is already gay...lol..

[@SayCheeseAndDie01]

A sport that looks like BJ can’t get any gayer

[@genoface]

@@millizaableright!? I’m in the arms of a man more often than my wife is in my arms. Granted I’m being strangled, but still…

[@Storytelling_at_Scale]

Bro we’re gunna have to have a word with you about that…

[@drunkpaulocosta]

As Craig says. The best base for BJJ is being g gay

[@ThomasKynes-fb8mi]

Would love to see her start her own comp. Its completely possible. She has the name. The gender communist framework with which these issues get framed with is actually destroying male female relationships. Its presented as seeking justice which is understandable, but is poison in disguise. She's demanding men recognise her, which isnt a great way to get what she wants. What if men dont feel drawn to watch her?that means the men have something wrong with them? If there is a reason she gets paid less, i hope it gets explained to her or corrected and she gets properly paid. Calling people names is ridiculous. Good luck to her, but the resentment and ad hominem attacks are dumb. Not every phenomenon in society is applicable to marxist theory and because of evil. She is talented and I hope she makes a good go of it.

[@cbo21]

Can’t wait for cji women’s division 💪

[@joshsd7767]

Go Ffion! 🎉

[@liwen4652]

"fair pay" is such a tough thing tbh women in combat sports are just no draw at all for me, im a simple moron, i wanna see two brutes fight it out and thats it. she may be the best technically, but if you look like i could beat you (which she does, although i couldnt beat her ofc lol) then im just not interested hard spot to be in. she deserves all the money in the world for what she is and what she is doing, but i wouldnt pay to watch her

[@Exeunt-philae]

You know you're a moron but if you really knew it you'd just have STFU

[@ijustwannaleaveacommentony6511]

craig vs gabi revealed the truth

[@eddyvandijk1302]

Don't mean to be rude, but then you're not a fan of jiu jitsu as a sport. You're a fan of aggression. As you said Ffion is currently the most dominant and technical female grappler out there, anyone that's interested in jiu jitsu will love that. I'd recommend you watch her match if you haven't yet, because that will show you very quickly someone with her size can easily fk you up.

[@rahulbball9395]

Interesting, I thought her and Dern's match was more exciting than many of the male matches. I am definitely tuning in to her in the future.

[@joebeast15]

Women don’t get paid as much for a good reason. Women’s sports will NEVER be on the same plane as men’s. That’s not a knock on anyone that’s just the reality of it. They don’t generate nearly as much revenue and they don’t generate buzz and attention. You know who doesn’t care about women’s sports? WOMEN. So tired of this argument, “women should get equal pay!” Ok when they are the driving force behind the majority of the revenue an event brings in then I’d be inclined to agree but until then, no they should be paid proportionate to that. Don’t know where she gets off insulting fans calling them jncels just because they don’t care about an inferior product on the mats. Even the very best female grappler would get toyed with like a child by a relatively low level male grappler. I’m just a regular guy that trains for fun (granted I’m a black belt that has been training 18 years) and I’m not convinced she could beat ME. I’m in pretty good shape for my age and I’m 215 lbs, she’s not doing to me what she does to women if I’m trying my hardest. It’s a joke

[@chucknorris5476]

Ffion slowly making me less gay (I’m in love with her)

you like the ugliest ones huh

[@MrGenedancingmachine]

Making a comment like that is firmly gay, so you're still all good

[@chucknorris5476]

@@MrGenedancingmachine my black belt is on the horizon still let’s go

[@Kicker-m5n]

Really? For me it was the threat of Monkey Pox.

[@chucknorris5476]

@@Kicker-m5n lmfao

[@letsssgooo4618]

This old ridiculous argument is so annoying

[@nuggert]

Who was in charge of the title of this video 😂

[@BlueCheckThanos]

i can get why it sucks, but where are the female ricksons and renzos, helio gracies, etc. that built this from nothing over almost 100 years. you have to bootstrap the demand, it's the fans (and sponsors, proportional to fans) you draw that are paying you. from whom are you asking for money, and how did they get it?

[@skudzer1985]

She's so cute with her buck teeth. She reminds me of someone from a fairy tale.

[@Ed7501]

Welsh Top Team FTW!

[@DiaryOfaCell]

Is it 2018? I didn’t know the incel meme was still a thing.

[@AfroGaz71]

Craig's a bit slow, he's an Aussie. I can forgive him for troll clickbait 6 years past the date. 😂

[@stoney-wan]

Had to google it lol #FKH

[@hajarivolarazanakotorasold9167]

@@stoney-wan did it too

[@shrimuyopa8117]

Ah yes, nothing better than insulting your audience and trying to shame them into watching you. Also, a lot of white knights in the comments section. Listen to her for a second, she HATES you! She doesn't like the jiu-jitsu community, she is ragging on us right now, in this video.

[@refraf8030]

Exactly. Incel is now used to insult men who disagree with what women say regardless of how wrong they are.

[@AhPhoey]

Close to the same skill level, but about 10 kilos weight difference......the talented heavier girl won.

[@danInRealife]

I'm a big fan of Ffion. I wasn't really surprised that she beat Dern the way she did. I thought the CJI event was a success. I hope the next one has more female competitors. I Very much appreciate Fions contribution to the sport. She is also super cute. 🩷💐

[@realitycheck816]

As a daughter with a man , thank you

[@EffectTheRed]

Ffion is the best!

[@seanheisey8645]

The fact that her lashes stayed on during the whole match and made it this far is incredible.

[@JamesDaniel217]

Oh god smh, cant stand feminist movements

[@FredrickHoxinville]

👨‍💻 "Oh god smh, cant stand feminist movements" *opens phub*

[@JamesDaniel217]

@@FredrickHoxinville why u watchin that?? Go meet some women dog

[@mylesmills3614]

What a roll model

[@ronocko]

Is it entertainment or is it a sport? If its a sport and the women go through the exact same tournament style with the same number of matches same time duration etc.. then why shouldnt they be paid equal? If its entertainment and no one wants to watch female *insert sport here* then why should they be paid equal regardless of gender?

[@PauIdenino]

It's both a sport and entertainment.

[@ronocko]

@@PauIdenino I think if the intent isn't non profit then the pay scale should be determined by the amount of eyes you bring on the product, but I have no problem with people going out there and getting paid as much as possible to do as little as possible as long as its not my money.

[@israelCommitsGenocide]

cause people arent going there to watch them, just like with the ufc the women fights are when you take a piss or go make a quick snack.

[@saninmw3]

Lets face it, this jiujitsu is fuqwing BORING. Out of 100 matches theres maybe 2 that are exciting. I love to do jiujitsu its an amazing activity but watching it!? OMG i wanna unalive myself. Sorry fellas, this is it. This is as popular as it will get, golden age of JJ is passing, in 10 years no one will give a f about JJ

[@fdcox1971]

I completely agree. It's a niche sport populated at the highest levels by, let's be honest, unlikeable, almost socially dysfunctional, charisma vacuums. Those personality types will never make the sport attractive to the average viewer or sports fan. And while I love the increasing focus on "complete" Jiu-jitsu (which is really what Judo once was: stand up, hand fighting, takedown/throw, transition to mat, establish control or submission for the win), you are absolutely correct: it's sooooo boring. Unfortunately, the dysfunctional personalities and boring nature of the sport will never make it appealing to anyone other than an enthusiast.

[@andrewtregoning]

Ffion should be a household name in the uk, ridiculous that she isn't at this point

[@M-dv1yj]

Housewife you mean. Corrected ur mistake. She is lucky to have the fame she does.

[@charmainebucco951]

If she isn't fighting in the UFC she won't be nothing more than just a grappler. She's the big fish in the ever-decreasing pond. And fighting in the UFC doesn't mean going to Fight Pass Invitational either. She's just defeated a ranked UFC contender in a graps match. Her ceiling as a potential MMA fighter is gonna get lower as she ages so she either stays a grappler or goes full MMA pro.

[@DeadlyCrypto]

@@M-dv1yjyou get no bitches huh?

[@PauIdenino]

@@M-dv1yj That's crazy 😂

[@joebeast15]

@@M-dv1yj100%. Am I the only one that can’t stand this woman? She’s really thinks who the F she is that’s for sure. Women get paid less for athletic endeavors for a good reason. The amount of revenue they generate is far less than their superior male counterparts. This is economics 101 here. Women’s sports will never be on the same level as men’s sports, sorry but that’s the way it is. You wanna know who doesn’t watch or support women’s sports? OTHER WOMEN. It’s hard to take seriously the best female grappler that would get turned into a pretzel by even a semi competitive purple belt male. I’m a 215 lb black belt but I’m just a regular guy with a full time job and young kids and I’m not convinced she could even beat me.

[@jacquedegatineau9037]

As awesome as CJI was my eyes kinda glaze over every time someone mentions the "gender pay gap" or whatever else we're whining about these days.

[@joebeast15]

She’s a typical leftist loon

[@tarawolf-i4z]

So well said and leading by example