FFXIV Lore- Keeper of the Lake & the Battle of Silvertear Skies

[@OtakuChan7]

Garlemald: "Conquering Eorzea will be quick and easy, in and out, 20 minute adventure." *Immediately curbstomped by a dragon horde*

[@kilrathi827]

"What we need is a Short, Victorious War." -Garlemald, probably "Haha, no. Surprise!" - Midgardsormr

[@eternalsummer8409]

Garlemald be like “let’s invade eorzea, oh fuck a dragon” a few years later: “let’s invade eorzea, oh fuck another dragon”

[@gratuitouslurking8610]

Shadowhunter: If I had a gil for every time Garlemald's invasions have been stymied by dragons, I'd have two gil. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird it's happened twice. Resistance Fighter: So apparently Baelsar's Wall just got attacked by a big-arse dragon! Shadowhunter: Goddamnit...

[@acgearsandarms1343]

I think with new information we got, I have a potential idea how Midgardsormr can create a new form. The issue is his soul is so dense with aether, to make a suitable form for it of a comparable level to his old body is going to take many, many years. Centuries in fact. It’s said that their kind is born of great aether. To even hatch a newborn dragon would take an aether rich environment and indeed take a lot of time. In the MSQ, we see how dragon eyes are incredibly potent with a lot of them. That even one can sustain a great wyrm of the First Brood. So by similar logic, I think that to make and sustain a form would take aether and time, which he has both of in spades. And he’s often said not to be idle even if he’s out of action as of now.

[@gratuitouslurking8610]

As seen in the cutscenes of Keeper of the Lake, Midgardsormr still retains both eyes to boot, something that Nidhogg lacked for much of the events of Heavensward prior to postgame. Between retaining both his eyes, his state as being Father of the First Brood, and the latent aetheric density of the Mohr Dona area, it's probably more surprising that he hasn't managed a new form yet. Though being able to craft the minor forms he has probably shows he's on a still slow but possible path for recovery.

[@SniperKing-O]

I hope we get to go to the 8th Umbral Calamity timeline one day so we can see Midgarsomar again and see how he has guided the remaining inhabitants on that version of the Source. 😢

[@acgearsandarms1343]

@@SniperKing-O That’s not going to happen even if that happens. It took like 200 years in that timeline. Regardless, why would you want countless deaths and suffering purposely to happen?

[@SniperKing-O]

@acgearsandarms1343 I meant go to the 8th Umbral Calamity timeline via the Crystal Tower on the First. It's practically our own personal time machine, so if we could figure out how to use it I would be cool to visit that alternate timeline! xD

[@pipeisreal]

@@SniperKing-O it would be cool to see a living midgardsormr guiding a population and to see what heroes spring up from that timeline, but unfortunately i think it would undermine the message and the sacrifice the 8th umbral timeline had to make. the whole deal was that they had no idea if sending the crystal tower, an important artifact that many people objected to sending away because it just might help their own timeline, would work. some people thought that since they didn't immediately disappear, they failed, but others thought that maybe time travel just didn't work like that. so while i wouldn't want the WoL specifically to visit that timeline, i do wish we got more short stories regarding it

[@TheMexRAGE]

About Midgardsomr deal with hydelyn to settle on Etherys: FF7 Rebirth also have an instance of an alien people (the gi tribe) settling on another planet (and ff7's lifestream is the inspiration for ff14's aetherial sea), their planet was destroyed and they had to flee and settle on FF7's planet, but when they die they couldnt enter the lifestream, they asked the steward of that planet (the cetra) to allow them to enter there when they die, but they were denied and now they remain as undead ghosts on the surface waiting for true oblivion... So what if Midgardsomr deal with Hydelyn was for her to bind Midgarsomr and his brood into Etherys Aetherial Sea, so they could go there when they die in exchange for protecting silvertear lake?

[@17Master]

Why are we spoiling Rebirth in a XIV video?

[@gratuitouslurking8610]

As one of those locations tied to major 1.0 events, it's always nice to see the details past the events of the MSQ. Though honestly, Midgardsormr himself is a character that could easily deserve a video all to himself with the sheer aetheric depth that he affects the lore of 1.0, Mohr Dona, Heavensward, and Omega.

[@AnchorJG]

I feel like this needs a part 2 sooner than later, because what he does when he meets the WoL is arguably more impressive than everything before.

[@antarath517]

I can't help feel a little sad we probably won't get many dragons in Dawntrail, since we've already got tabs on the seven first brood

[@25xxfrostxx]

We still don't know what happened with Tiamat after she left with what was left of her brood after Pagl'Than. I wouldn't be surprised if we catch up with her at some point soon and we could get a Meracydia curveball in Dawntrail. The answering roars to Vrtra and Azdaja's call at the end of 6.5 have to be leading to something.

[@acgearsandarms1343]

⁠@@25xxfrostxxShe went back to Meracydia with her brood. Also getting to Meracydia would take months by ship. Gameplay wise, not sure how long it would take. They make it seem like minutes in actual in game time. I really think Meracydia should be saved for another expansion.

[@xandirnich_237]

​@@acgearsandarms1343lest we have another Stormblood situation.

[@kurojester4513]

@@xandirnich_237 I doubt it. Rural is big enough to host an entire expansion. One of the reasons stated for splitting Stormblood like they did was because they realised Gyr Abania in the lore just wasn’t large enough to host 6 zones. We already seem to have wildly different zones for Dawntrail already so adding another continent wouldn’t make sense.

[@rickydargence5948]

@@25xxfrostxx I think the dev team will probably tackle Meracydia next expansion and THEN maybe we'll go the the 13th ? (Years will go by faster to them while we adventure here so they world will be partly healed by now? But then again, why would we go there unless another evil out of nowhere appears there)

[@MrSpiderspider12]

What if Warrior of Light's adventuring stories told to Venat had a play in Midgarsorm attack the Garlemald Greatest Ship, and now Hidaelyn is moving him as a chest piece in order to guide the WoL?

[@felinewanderer89]

This was a good refresher on the story. Thank you.

[@bendonatier]

I feel like this story is incomplete without the last hurrah of the Agrias, not as the flagship of the empire, nor the final resting place of the god of dragons, but as the Cradle of the Eighth Astral Era. After the Warrior of light, and in fact much of civilization as we knew it had fallen to black rose, and the eight Umbral Calamity, the Garlond Ironworks used it's wreckage as a fortified base for their experiments with time travel. And of course generations after the fall of civilization, when they succeeded, and sent the crystal tower to the first, Midgardsormr awoke from his long slumber, congratulated the son's of man, and swore now to protect them as they rebuilt humanity.

[@romancy4073]

i love these so much do u plan to make some for i would love newer ones like troia or alexandria

[@maxkid6446]

This is the site of some of the most important events of ffxiv professor

[@Mizra1985]

This is my favorite dungeon from ARR!!

[@KenjiShinomori]

Thank you for covering these dungeons :c I started in 2015 and honestly I dont remember much of the story anymore, so this is wonderful to reexperience.

[@Skjolvar]

Considering how strong Midgardsormr is, it makes you wonder who the strongest of their kind is in their history let alone if their lifestream existed or not, maybe with the song of hope we'll go there and help the dragons reclaim it?

[@hozerius5590]

About to do these quests in the Realm Reborn content again with another character. :)

[@GmaerXQ]

With the Aether he siphoned on the journey to the Star, and what we know of the Short Side-Story about the people of the 8th Umbral Era, i imagine his soul trying to enter the Aetherial Soul would be like trying to pour a Gallon into a pint mug. Does make us wonder just how much Hydaelyn told him about the WoL.

[@bigfoxki]

Does dragons' aether actually return to the start though. Since they are considered aline, the planet could just treat them like Gi Tribe in FFVII and not allow them to return to the aether sea. And speaking of which, there was no dragon in the 89LV dungeon.

[@SynodicScribe]

If you're asking if a dragon's aether/soul returns to the Dragon Star upon death. That Star is a husk, there's nothing to return too. We've no evidence suggesting dragon souls leave the Source.

[@Gloomdrake]

I’m pretty sure Meteion said that the souls of dead stars were being sent to Etherys. I think that kind of implies that, while each planet has its own self-sufficient aetherial sea, they’re not actually self-contained ecosystems in the grand scheme of things

[@althelor]

​@@Gloomdrake that would track with the celestial aether currents that were briefly mentioned when we were studying zodiark's creation. Granted I'm not sure how that interacts with the concept of the star being sundered since it doesn't seem like any souls in the lifestream of etheris would be exempt from the sundering.

[@Gloomdrake]

@@althelor Hydaelan did move Minfilia to the Lifestream on the Source from the First, implying the Lifestream was also Sundered

[@siyrean]

@@Gloomdrake she was hoarding all the dead in her nest, when we defeated her i thought she freed it into the universe so that life would spring up once more.

[@StartouchArts]

I had NO idea there was more to the Battle of Silvertear Skies cutscene! Where did you find it?!

[@kandiesky]

It's from the FFXIV 1.0, search for "Final Fantasy XIV Midgardsormr vs The Agrius"

[@StartouchArts]

Google-fu provides nothing except the one in ARR, unfortunately.

[@boop2908]

how did Gaius survive the Agrias?

[@SniperKing-O]

Imagine being Gaius, ready to conquer Eoreza with your state of the art giant warship and a giant flying mythical space noodle somehow comes out of the blue to screw up your plans. 😂

[@TobiGame1]

I wish to know what was he doing during the alagen times.

[@flyfreemeru]

so many people don't know the history of this place

[@dullahandan4067]

Is it ever mentioned anywhere why the Ascians never tried to grab Midgardsormr's eyes for anything? Edit: Nevermind. If Midgardsormr was draining Hydaelyn like a parasite aka 'drinking deep' then better to leave him there doing so.

[@acgearsandarms1343]

Don’t think they can. He’s not as accessible as you might think and he is presumably under Hydaelyn’s influence. Her influence prevents Ascians from coming and going in certain places.

[@magpie_jazz]

My guess is that he could be there slowly (and safely) absorbing aether to restore himself for centuries.

[@acgearsandarms1343]

@@magpie_jazz Aether naturally flows in certain areas. So I think that’s a likely scenario. He’s not sucking the land dry like a primal either so definitely not burdening the land.

[@gratuitouslurking8610]

@@acgearsandarms1343 As stated multiple times, Mohr Dona is also known to being RICH in aether as well, which probably helps in Midguardsormr's purposes.

[@acgearsandarms1343]

@@gratuitouslurking8610 Indeed.

[@vincentbeton]

I cannot help but wonder if it is just a coincidence you release this on Easter and then repeatedly call Midgardsomr 'King of Kings'

[@SynodicScribe]

It's a coincidence. Midgardsormr has many MANY titles and that's simply one of them. I willfully used his titles instead of repeating his name over and over as not to sound too monotone. lol