FFXIV Story Skip Feature Should Be Implemented By Now... Kanima Talks About New Player Experience...

FFXIV story is one of its strong part but at the same time, not the only good aspect that the MMORPG offers. The problem is how long the story and the fact that it is mandatory for players. With Endwalker wrapping up the 10 year saga, Dawntrail could have been the fresh start which allows player to skip through the earlier story. Adding this as feature will help in letting new players join the game when they have no interest in narrative.
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[@yamifalcon]

I do think a lot of the early story should be condensed to ease the onboarding but skipping the story outright is against this games core design.

[@CL-jq1xs]

Eventually the skip must be implemented. Imagine another 4-5 expansions down the line. No matter how much you condense it wouldn't work assuming you want the story to stay coherent and be paced well. Condensing doesn't fix the issue it only delays it. At that point you are asking people to clear 10 expansions worth of incoherent and badly paced MSQ. The reason why people care about the story being a core design is because the story good. If the story is bad then it is considered bad design in people eyes.

[@kanimaxiv]

I don't believe story is the game's core design because you can remove it entirely and the game would still be amazing on multiple aspects. Story is definitely one of those aspect but its the only one that is mandatory. Ultimate raids is one of the best aspect for example but only a small subset of players engage in it and these players play the game only because of ultimate raids for example. The same can be said for story. Also yeah condensing the story is a band-aid which is good but doesn't fix the whole issue. Unfortunately for a lot of potential new players, 2-3 digit hours of story even while skipping just makes them turn away from the game. And if your argument is let them leave, then that's unfortunate cuz I want more people to play this really good MMO...

[@airget]

In terms of story, yes this could have been a good starting point for players however given the nature of the content it's an awful starting point for new players. The dungeons/trials/raids require knowledge of the game which is not something you'll get if you pick it up at 90 and try to start with 7.0, you'll have a bad time and most likely stop playing because of how much you are getting curb-stomped. If they want to have a new jumping point they have to figure out how to teach players the mechanism behind mechanics so they aren't blindly running into content with no idea as to what they are suppose to do.

[@kanimaxiv]

That's why I specifically said that its only story skip, kind of like buying story skip and not job boost.. They'll have to level on their own but doing combat content with choices like dungeon grind, PoTD, etc are more interesting to non-story enjoyers and they learn mechanism of the game through dungeons.. Story never actually teach any mechanics anyway. I agree with you though that if you just pick up at level 90, you'll be entirely clueless, get curb-stomped and quit because getting curb-stomped is not fun. That's why job boost is a no go but story skip is need in my opinion.

[@newbielolgaga]

based take. story is like 10% of the game lmao, you won't miss much. So many good point to skipping both job and story: You get to play with friends who are already max level and you can have fun playing with them on the most recent content. And even after skipping, the game has a new game + system that allows you to replay the story. So you can play endgame already and still play the story whenver you want. Also, leveling a job from 0 to like ~70 takes foreever, and you won't even learn how to play it. Just boost a job, go on a dummy and train your rotation, and thats it. The game is easy enough so that people can do that lmao

[@bigtimetimmyjim6486]

If I story skipped and then did the full DT experience, I would think that the story I missed was similarly half-baked and contrived, which would be a real shame.

[@kanimaxiv]

It would be but a lot of people probably would say the same for base ARR.. And you can always go back with NG+ to experience it anyway.. The feature is more aimed towards people that don't care about story and want the combat, raids, etc which is a lot of people.. But the moment they noticed that they need to spend 2-3 digit hours just skipping story, they just gave up.

[@kingrushy4533]

I would have bought it 6 times over for Dawntrail, this story is terrible

[@kanimaxiv]

I wouldn't say its terrible but its obviously extremely hard to top HW or ShB. The pacing is just too slow and boring on the start. But yes the option to skip older story should still remain in my opinion.

[@NewAnderL]

Imagine skip everything and the only new thing you got is the dogshit story of Dawntrail...not a good starting point...

[@kanimaxiv]

if you skip everything, you're skipping Dawntrail story anyway so it doesn't matter lol Jokes aside, a lot of players would probably say similar thing if they just do base ARR so Dawntrail might still just be cooking.. Its cooking but the stove is not on Deadge

[@gamingrigz5856]

Lemme just buy this game known for its incredible world building and story telling and just skip all that...seems like a good choice.

[@tank_dempsey]

As someone who got to heavensward like, 3 years ago, stopped playing, and came back recently, I don’t think skips should be incentivized at all. Apart from how good the story is, it gives you ample time to get a feeling for how to play your class. In the last like 2 weeks I’ve went from heavensward to the end of base shadowbringers, and I’ve never been more in love with the game. While I get some people aren’t interested in the story, there’s a lot of other MMOs out there for those people. It’s the core foundation of the game and I think providing a story skip would lead to any new players coming in being way more likely to drop the game way sooner. Edit: I get what you mean about recommending the game to new players, but if you are recommending the most story driven mmo on the market to someone, you should be aware if they will care about the story or not. 200 hours in an mmo is nothing as we all know lol

[@kanimaxiv]

I get your point but I disagree that story is a core foundation of the game.. Story is at least 9/10 and I'm a story enjoyer myself but if the story were to be removed, there are a lot of other great aspects of the game that a lot of people can enjoy.. Skips shouldn't be incentivized but the option should be there imo. My point is that we would have more players in the game, with their own respective enjoyment on specific content type. Your argument of "they're more likely to drop the game way sooner" is invalid because when they heard about 200 hours story, they didn't even bother playing..

[@tank_dempsey]

@@kanimaxiv I mean you can disagree, but I think in this scenario you are just wrong if you say the story isn’t a core foundation of the game. And you can say my argument is invalid but that doesn’t make it so lol. There’s already a free trial. From a pure numbers standpoint there are substantially more casual players than not (both current player base and potential new players) and most of those players will be more heavily impacted by story than anything else. Yes new players are important but if you lose almost every new player you get within a couple days or weeks what would it matter? That is my point