FFXIV - The Retainer experience

retainers are the storage units of the game, that and the chocobo saddlebag help you keep any item you find in FFXIV
but retainers also have the ability to go out into the world and bring tons of useful items!... sometimes
but dont be too harsh on them, maybe they would be more motivated if their pay wasn't exclusively in ventures
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[@dahrimar]

You get a crystal when the item your retainer would have brought back is Unique, and the same item is already in your inventory, and since you can't have two of them because they're unique, it defaults to random crystal instead. (As far as i know)

[@BirdCyclops]

oh damn thats really interesting!

[@DoppelgangerTH]

@@BirdCyclops so that just adds to the "You dont pay us" with "You already have that something we found"

[@loomingdeath1758]

XD man i been sending them retainers to grab me up them crystals .-. I never thought about how important crafting is lol

[@ayanhart]

I think it's only for ARR it does that. For either ShB or EW it's Bombokos it gives you and for another it's the Stuffed Alphas - we had a joke in our FC that one guy was making a Bomboko cult, so whenever a retainer gave us one we'd mail it to him.

[@loomingdeath1758]

@@ayanhart Got a friend she made a carbuncle cult. XD Every time I walk in there Carbuncles everywhere.

[@Volkaru]

Fishing retainer: I brought back this friend while I was out! Battle retainer 1: I felled a god that took a whole party to kill not long ago. Battle retainer 2: Here's an entire roof. Don't ask me from where.

[@sedathecat]

My battle retainer straight up says she's off to rob some people. She hasn't brought me roofs yet, but it wouldn't really surprise me if she does.

[@williek08472]

Mining retainer: I got a rock

[@Gamemaster-64]

Mine give me houses. No wonder why there still plots.

[@lancesrage]

Stolen name day cakes

[@Nihonguy]

My botanist retainer brough me 2 seperate roofs and it doesnt help that shes a lalafell, shes the ONLY ONE whos brought me roof's like...what demon have I hired?

[@mistarot]

You're paid in experience. Now go get my that Rebel Coat!

[@loomingdeath1758]

god damn XD that was vicious

[@DoppelgangerTH]

Horrifying unpaid intern vibes

[@realdingo]

Straight up got a rebel coat, urban coat, and calfskin jacket off of ventures. My boys got ripped off😢

[@mewfangirl1052]

I always kinda figured that the Ventures were what they turned into the Vocate in order to get paid in gil for the amount of work that they did. :P

[@kylethomas9130]

Kinda like paper money.

[@Kittykunoichi]

Wouldn’t it be cool if it could be exchanged for Gil or discounted meals and inn room or something? Hmmm…

[@Felinius]

I always assumed they just gave you a cut of the adventurers they were mugging.

[@dawk7]

@@kylethomas9130 Ventures can get you goods and services.

[@protectorpaladin4358]

The expressions, and exaggeration you do with your characters keeps getting better, and better man! We love to see it!

[@BirdCyclops]

thank you! i had finished this video yesterday but was unhappy with how it looked so i re-did it i am now satisfied with the result lmao

[@luckyday5721]

I think ventures could be realistically be just something you need to give for them to preform those services and they probably get paid by whatever government they are employed in. We get seals and other weird currencies so who knows.

[@honeydarlinggaming9156]

I assume the ventures are like. Exchangable for Gil by the retainers. Like tokens of completed work or something. Otherwise eoreza has leaglized slavery and that... Yeah i don't like that.

[@Jackal2664]

@@honeydarlinggaming9156 If you look at the item description it mentions that ventures are basically cashed in for proper payment via the company you hire them from.

[@deeeebeeeee]

I enjoy the venture joke, but I'm glad it's just that haha. Yeah, Ventures are exchangeable and we just use them as a consistent payment method. Kinda like an IOU or a bill that the retainer than gets paid by the employer

[@Chichaetomate]

math time ventures are 200 grand company seals each you can also buy duck bones at 600 seal each each duck bone can be sold at 360 gil meaning 1 venture is 120 gils now you use 2 company seal to send your retainer for an 18 hours trip 2 ventures are 240 gils divided by the 18 hours their salary is around 13.3 gil per hour on the huge expedition and 240 gil if you send them on the quick explorations

[@BirdCyclops]

with that much gil it would take only a few days of work to buy a meal! nice

[@JS-kr8fs]

@@BirdCyclops Inflation is really out of hand. Back in my day, we could afford a house, two kids, two cars, a garage for both, and three square meals on 8 gil per hour.

[@sixthcairn]

So, like, two eggs and change per hour. Yikes.

[@SeiaiAnkoku]

Then there are some Retainers sent on 1 hour Ventures. They're making good gil! Work smarter, not harder.

[@Nyx685]

Minimum height aura girl retainer: (brings me A GIGANTIC AF TELESCOPE) Me: Uhhh how did you--- Retainer: Fell off the back of a carriage Me: Um, did-- Retainer: BACK. OF. A. CARRIAGE.

[@sonicroze]

I actually imagine the Retainers actually spend the Venture Tokens like John Wick spends his assassin coins. Like, behind the scenes, he's off getting cool suits and staying at swanky hotels. I'm really convinced my Retainers are retired Warriors of Light and just break into dungeons and property and steal this stuff. It's only when they're feeling lazy they're like "Here's a single Earth Crystal."

[@MaelraJade]

Your retainer spends their ventures ... on their own retainers! It's like a pyramid scheme.

[@Firestar4041]

I mean with Rowna, i dont doubt it :'v

[@theKungfuBunnyshow]

Retainer: I got you a Roof! Me: Where, How....? R: Secret :)

[@Wyrvenfire]

does it atleast match the walls you stole yesterday?

[@Sunari]

Sometimes I imagine they get together with other retainers to fight duties, steal bits of peoples houses, and sometimes they get together for lunch and bring us leftovers or a to go meal. I still feel insulted over single crystals when the gatherers can bring back a bigger amount in 40 mins to one crystal for an hour exploration >.>

[@stormychu5677]

meanwhile Retainer #1 brings you a retainer coffer containing general purpose black dye to sell.

[@thew00dsman79]

Still waiting for my Red Onion Helm

[@nyminenemine]

I love the lunacy of retainers stealing doors and windows, but my favorite so far is Bacon Bits. The flavor text basically says your retainer made it in a fugue state and I have SO many questions.

[@agorilla7137]

iirce Ventures are given by the city states, which your retainers are properly employed by, in response to you doing jobs for them. That's why most levequests can get you ventures. The retainers themselves are paid by the city.

[@JS-kr8fs]

A Venture has the value you put on it. Not a corporation, not economics, not some government treasury official. Think of it like rare art or baseball cards. This is the cutting edge of a new, daring field of societal valuation.

[@sedathecat]

Oh god ventures are NFTs.

[@sleepythemis]

My retainer, spitefully peeling the entire roof off of somebody's house in Shirogane after being paid a worthless currency and told to fuck off for an hour:

[@emeraldpichu1]

It's very simple venture coins are Eorzea's version of a solid you pay someone a solid and then they pay that forward and on and on until everyone gets a favor retainer just means you're someone's "helper" That's why you get venture when you do "favors" for the beast tribes.

[@xantouke]

And then on the opposite side they'll come back with the strongest obtainable raid weapon in normal content. Or literal housing exteriors. And you look upon them with fear in your heart.

[@Deboratlas]

"Hey I paid 40 of those things to get you a proper education in axe-swinging, you better be grateful."

[@HituraRael]

My retainer experience has been nothing compared to PotD. I keep getting random people's underwear.

[@BirdCyclops]

what

[@Nyx685]

The Panty Raid: Savage

[@AdiG1]

"Buddy, I got two of you guys! Why can't you be more like T'hiccstola?! She ripped off a roof!"

[@Chumpersonable]

One of my retainers is on boring but steady and dependable crystal farming duties. The other is on the far more volatile quick venture duty, which SOMETIMES nets me a crate full of two jet black dyes that some asshole will pay half a million gil each for. I have a favorite retainer.

[@MomoMonsterAnimations]

The retainer revolution is almost upon us XD

[@Review_Bruh]

Stumbled upon this channel cuz I've been curious about FF 14. Don't know much about the game but your videos are pretty enjoyable! Wish one of my friends would get it with me tho since I've never played an MMO and would not want to jump into it solo.

[@BirdCyclops]

i hope you get at least one of em to play along with you! and im glad you like my work

[@tetsuotakahashithe5thpilla708]

Its the thought that counts! I burn thru so many crystals that i could honestly use any i can get my hands on. But if you wanna farm crystals for me THAT much. You can get them hourly for me, kay? 😊

[@NekoThaky]

You should've touched on the fact you can send a fisher out on a quick venture and bring back like gear from the 13th

[@thornangel16]

Imagine the retainers going wherever they go to get their loot and being subjected to RNG as the WoL while ALSO having to compete with other people retainers AND a deadline limiting their ability to grind. How good their loot is depends on how much luck they had that day.

[@ShadowStarGaming]

I was expecting a Stuffed Alpha, my retainers constantly bring me those xD

[@BirdCyclops]

god i wish they gave me more of those

[@ShadowStarGaming]

@@BirdCyclops At least you can desynth them and the mats are at worth at least more than Stuffed Alpha itself, right?

[@HeroValios]

I always figured the lore was that your retainers get paid on a set, per job rate handled through the venture registry. You pay them the venture, they cash it in at the registry desk and get paid since it's proof the job is complete. And since you can only gain ventures in certain ways, including levequests, grand companies, and trading with tribes - the proceeds they get paid with are just a pool of funds drawn from the results of the service you've already done. You're not paying them directly, just giving proof of completion which gets handed to the venture registry for pay!

[@sniper-jp8qe]

@Adan: I hope you have hoovered the picture and read the minion-text of the fat-cat-minion... Retainers... Retainers are scary.

[@BirdCyclops]

i did! and ive never looked at them the same! :D

[@drexfivemorning3930]

Fear the retainer revolution!

[@DVeritas]

Saw this a few days and didn’t understood any of it. Now that I can hire my retainer, I watch it again and makes me laugh out loud. 😂😂😂 hilarious thing.

[@zdt222]

I'm pretty sure when i unlocked my retainers there was a bit of lore text saying they get paid in ventures, which they use to buy Room/board/exchange for goods at the person who you talked to to hire them.

[@ComingSoonEntertainment]

They get paid?! That's better than what we did with our off-screen hirelings back in ESO. We just got mail from then every 24 hours with free shit, and a short snippet of what adventures they had. One hireling I had went to Black Marsh to the fabled "wamasu scale treatment" technique. Turns out it was a local saying for something impossible. But yeah, it was good to get free stuff for everyday. Wamasu are giant lightning spitting lizards that look like a cross between a croc and a dragon.

[@BirdCyclops]

oh my god LMAO what is going on over at ESO???? sounds crazy

[@GamerGod353]

I like to believe they use ventures to get food and just living in a nice place.

[@BirdCyclops]

god i wish i had ventures

[@dannywolfpero]

Retainer can bring up the issue of payment with the Retainer Union and then get back to me.

[@lelakurayami3727]

I love your FFXIV videos xD

[@BirdCyclops]

thank you!

[@AmunRa1]

I mean I'm giving the Flames rare weapons and armor from literally other worlds in exchange for these ventures so they BETTER be worth something

[@ShxpxRok]

Meanwhile a retaininer bringing you the roof of a mansion. Look dude I have a cottage where is that going to fit? xD

[@StellariumSound]

Ye the retainer vocate mentions that the ventures are essentially chits that retainers turn in for payment. How much payment is anyone's guess.

[@user-yg7sh9fh2y]

"If you don't pay them, don't expect high rewards" by Steve from Minecraft.

[@Puddingskin01]

"Oh Hydaelyn don't you call me, 'cuz I can't go, I sold my soul to the Venture store."

[@garfunklestein7888]

I could totally be misremembering it and it's just a fake memory that wormed its way into my head, but I think I remember the retainer NPC in each city market saying something along the lines that ventures are redeemable by retainers in exchange for gil or other goods/services by the Adventurer's Guild, almost like a company scrip. It could be repeatable dialogue if you talk to them, or maybe it's something they said the first time you meet them, shortly after unlocking retainers early on in ARR. Again tho, might just be me imagining things.

[@loomingdeath1758]

See this is what happens when we challenge our Serv...I meant colleagues when we send them out to hunt...they can go full on common sense on us.

[@Aitherea]

When Endwalker dropped I immediately forced a race change on my retainers. Now I have a bunnyboy harem.

[@Anuca]

I figured it was like retainers turn them in on their own and either get paid from the amount or turn them in for goods and services to put them back in circulation.

[@user-nh2vm6kp8d]

I believe the payment is called a subscription

[@ShinReska]

One of my retainers *LOVES* Alpha Plushies and wants to bring me a new one ALL THE TIME.

[@litsaber]

Hey those ventures are like 2 days worth of quests in a single beast tribe

[@FreedomFighterEx]

Mine keeps giving me a bowl of sweet cream. I am horrified.

[@VaSoapman]

I once got a Calfskin Jacket from my retainer

[@OpXarxa]

far as I recall, I think ventures are a guild-minted currency that retainers can trade in at the guild, and that the whole system was created as an incentive for taking certain jobs, but I'd have to re-read on the specifics point is, you're indirectly paying them in monopoly money that they can trade for actual money

[@SpectreNight]

Lets hope they don't unionize or we may start having to actually pay them in something other than funbucks.

[@yabbles617]

I have a miner who keeps bringing back clothes and jewellery. I think he might be graverobbing.

[@TheStylishSpy]

I'd like to think that 'Ventures' in order to be monetary gain, would be a thing the retainers can turn into the Retainer Vocate for actual Gil, and there's retainers out there that realised they can just get Ventures for doing other things like joining a grand company or doing levequests and they've been cheating the system.

[@kylethomas9130]

You'll get lots of 'exposure,' that's something you like right?

[@Rakaszta]

meanwhile my fishing retainer: HERE'S A HANDFUL OF LEMONS where did he fish for that, do not ask me. It was a waterside exploration, it took him 18 hours to get me 7 lemons... [edit]: and it was not once, nor twice... not even 5 times...

[@SynodicScribe]

Well then I guess some of them are just more passionate about their work. Especially when they rip the roof off a house and bring it back to me.

[@magnusthedemon]

I like it when the come back with peoples property. "yeah i stole this wall from your neighbor two housea down..they dint need it. Is now yours WoL"

[@Arkansym]

We pay in Ventures? Have we turned into Rowena?

[@hethestorm]

iirc retainers are paid from the city states tax reserves, the retainer guide npc had the whole lore dump

[@barzaudplays5586]

Keep it up and it back to the copperbell mines with you -_-

[@callesino9201]

Paid them in exposure.

[@galloviking4766]

Yah know as a crafter I'd be happy even with a single fire crystal. Cuz getting one myself would be a 1000 gils teleport.

[@kateancharn4202]

I have friends who, through getting some of their favorite classes to 90 before getting to Endwalker.... have Retainers that steal regularly from Rowena and also give them level 90 gear they should not have. We are afraid.

[@Bayonette]

Mine keep bringing back windup cars, what are they trying to tell me?

[@BirdCyclops]

hotwheels competition, hotwheels competition, hotwheels competition, hotwheels competition, hotwheels competition

[@humbleebumblee]

Your retainers spend ventures on supplies like food and stuff if I recall correctly

[@Sawolf151]

that is why I "hire" retainers that are way more charming than my own WoL

[@JohnSmith-bn5mi]

Are Ventures useless or something? What do you use them for?

[@BirdCyclops]

the only use for ventures you as a player have is to give them to retainers LOL

[@coldReactive]

I would rather have a single Fire Crystal than a Bom Boko that I cannot sell or desynth.

[@xitrum1902]

You don't want to know where they got those. Or how.

[@bellringer53]

To be fair too our retainers, if we weren't the wol we would be paid in grand company seals so we just got lucky lol

[@NaitomeIya]

Omg the random single crystal! Whenever my retainers give me that sh I wanna slap them hard. xD I have a headcanon that retainers can trade Ventures for some good stuff, but only retainers can actually exchange good sh with them. Any other person can't do anything with Ventures other than pay their retainers with them. And the Ventures you buy off the GC or whatever? They came from retainers trading them in for goods.

[@EndermTheSwordsman]

I wont lie, i felt guilty that i didnt pay mine. So now they have 4,000 gil each anytime they go out on a venture, that way its like im paying for any expenses or luxuries they may want, while on the job. So they learn, and they can pay for what they want.

[@ninaninanina95]

My retainers keep getting mad at me for talking to them while they are on ventures lol

[@BirdCyclops]

LOL

[@BeefNinja7]

Imagine being paid with such a dubious currency. Anyways, I need to go spend my Grand Company seals at my Grand Company.

[@Xport9]

The only real explanation as to why they return to you with such poor quality loot. They aren't getting paid enough. Not to mention, being out there for 18 hours in the field.

[@kylethomas9130]

I sure hope that's not a single work day...

[@a-a-ron9027]

they get a cut from our market board sales, so...on commission?

[@istergamer]

So... what do you do nowadays in xiv.

[@BirdCyclops]

beyond the basic roulettes to level classes i dont have to 90 and doing some moogle tome grind with friends I have been enjoying the challenge of the new deep dungeon (doing it solo) and decided to actually learn how to fish (its been a fun experience, very relaxing)

[@GoddessCynthia]

tbf i do pay retainer 3 10 irl bucks lmao

[@BirdCyclops]

LOL

[@LimakPan]

Don't retainer slots cost real money? Past like two?

[@BirdCyclops]

yeah if you wanna hire more than the first two retainers you get it costslike 4 or 3 dollars a month per retainer

[@ZurichiVonVorst]

The higher the ilvl of your Retainer the better the stuff they bring for there ventures. So that old 590/605 ilvl armor and weapon your not using slap it on your Retainer! You might get something you'll like or something like a 100+ Bombokos and Stuffed Alphas like me...

[@triplespearmint]

Shoulda spent TWO ventures instead of one. Maybe then they won't complain.

[@J-leaf]

Hey being the underpaid janitor (hero) to the people is taxing as hell. Sometimes you gotta let someone taste the same medicine.

[@Firestar4041]

Don't you sass me Retainer #2 I get paid in poetics... ain't nobody using these damn things >:v And topped off i can only ever hold like 2000 of em before my wallet is "full"... tf that work???

[@Zedrinbot]

And WHY do we pay them in ventures? Cause that's the only payment they accept smh my head. I'd pay them in gil if it meant not needing to farm ventures ever.

[@patrickginther8527]

I'm not familiar with FFXIV. Are Ventures some kind of NFT?

[@JayHog1992]

Wish I could experience at least one as free trial, but nope.

[@crimsonpotemkin]

Well my retainers live in my 2 big ass mansions, have gear higher level than most of the playerbase and are better dressed that most players. That has to count for something, right?

[@mareczek00713]

Okay, listen here MFer, I typically tell you to do like 4 quick ventures daily meaning you're doing a 28 hour workweek for 48 ventures meaning I spent 9600 company points on those which is like giving to company 10 pieces of lvl50 gear, basically the peak stuff most people can dream of. With helmet, cuirass, gloves, pants and boots being 5 parts that's like 2 sets of high quality armor weekly - a decent medieval armorer made one top quality set monthly and could sustain a familty with the income and you get equivalent of 8 armors per month, take the compensation up with the company, they told me to pay you with it so they should compensate you for it!!!

[@Firestar4041]

Honestly kinda impressive to just get one... I mean you have to really TRY and not get more than 3's or 5's, on a single gather..... Especially with all the gear i deck you out in.....

[@heliusuniverse7460]

you use ventures to hire other retainers. it's retainers all the way down