Fiery Vigil

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The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered

The History Guy: History Deserves to Be Remembered

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@homerdelossantos2206
@homerdelossantos2206 15 күн бұрын
It's strange when watching the History Guy and I clearly recall a time when this story was current events.
@mikenixon2401
@mikenixon2401 15 күн бұрын
Whew, I'm not the only one.
@fearthehoneybadger
@fearthehoneybadger 15 күн бұрын
I saw the sign for the last movie at the Clark Airbase theater: "The Last Days of Pompeii." Sense of humor to the last.
@000scubasteve
@000scubasteve 15 күн бұрын
Makes me feel old.
@000scubasteve
@000scubasteve 15 күн бұрын
I was in highschool when this happened
@RobertStewart-i3m
@RobertStewart-i3m 15 күн бұрын
I remember when this happened. Ended an era for us sailors
@Niftynorm1
@Niftynorm1 15 күн бұрын
I was a Hospital Corpsman on the USS Proteus and took part in Operation Fiery Vigil. It was a shock to return to Subic which we had just visited in May and now it was total destruction. As a repair ship we immediately started fixing equipment and clearing roads. When the ash was falling it reminded me of Chicago during a major snow storm. It was everywhere, in our lungs, it plugged air filters on vehicles and without precautions it could be tracked everywhere. It was abrasive and caused many breathing problems. Clark was totally shut down and Subic along with the naval air station at Cubi point were in dire straits. We conducted medical and dental clinics for the Filipino population when ever possible and they were extremely grateful.
@Scot-p1v
@Scot-p1v 15 күн бұрын
‘Insidious’ is the only proper word for volcanic ash I can think of. We visited Mount Unzen in Japan some time after the eruption. It was fairly quiet by then, but ash plumes started strengthening around the time of our visit. There was ash in the gutters of the town of Unzen-and we were awakened by the owner of the inn we stayed at pushing several inches. ash off his roof. Abrasive and potentially corrosive, it doesn’t do engines any favors, certainly.
@Shadowkey392
@Shadowkey392 6 күн бұрын
I’m a little envious of you. I’ve always wanted to see a volcanic eruption in person.
@TulaneAve
@TulaneAve 15 күн бұрын
I was there as a Marine for all the events discussed and the whole operation. Good coverage of the events. The problem was indeed ash combined with the rain. Locals unprepared. We were providing aid in town immediately and throughout the recovery.
@Maxtyur
@Maxtyur 15 күн бұрын
Congratulations 🎉
@eldonhoward7925
@eldonhoward7925 15 күн бұрын
Thank you for your service.
@Bull-cat741
@Bull-cat741 15 күн бұрын
Thank You for your service. You are part of the Greatest Generation, and I wanted to thank you for your comment. It helped The History Guy's great true story come alive for me. God Bless You ❤️🇺🇲
@rockhopper01
@rockhopper01 15 күн бұрын
We were there, NAS Cubi Point. VMA(AW)-332. We got our planes and bolted out in time, but we left 2 dudes who were in alcohol rehab. 😂
@bradleyalexander5821
@bradleyalexander5821 15 күн бұрын
Many thanks TulaneAve. You folks served our country well. God Bless. 🎩-Tip
@bruceweidner8560
@bruceweidner8560 15 күн бұрын
I was a junior officer onboard USS PELELIU during Fiery Vigil. When we arrived at Subic Bay we were using Night Vision goggles on the bridge to attempt to peer through the falling ash. As an LHA we off loaded Marines and engineering equipment and on loaded civilians and the entire maternity ward from the base hospital. I have lost count of how many births took place on our transit to Cebu. A number of buildings collapsed on base as the ash mixed with torrential rain resulted in raining cement. On top of the weight, the ash was very caustic knocking out electrical systems base wide.
@David-nx2vm
@David-nx2vm 15 күн бұрын
I was in the Air Force in Korea at the time. We received units, people and equipment from Clark. Most of the equipment had to be discarded - it was ashed-out and useless. One of my coworkers was one of the 300 cadre left behind to get equipment out, household goods shipped, etc. they cleared a minimum operating strip at Clark so a senior DoD official could fly in and assess the situation. He didn’t make it off the airstair before he declared we were out of there. Didn’t matter how the Philippine senate voted, our decision was already made. Anyone on leave or TDY from Clark were told to go to the nearest Air Force base and sign in as permanent party. Guys on leave in North Dakota did not go to Minot, they bought commercial tickets to warm-weather bases and signed in there. Fun times.
@Abbeville_Kid
@Abbeville_Kid 15 күн бұрын
I spent 40 days at home and called AFMPC. I told them to leave me there and ended up spending the next four years, stationed a half an hour from home.
@susfu4988
@susfu4988 12 күн бұрын
Clark Air Base Ash Warrior here. June 1991 was not a boring month at Clark, that’s for sure!
@dallyre
@dallyre 10 күн бұрын
I left Clark for George AFB about 10 months before the eruption. I sure was worried about all you guys/gals I had left behind. I got to see some of the aftermath via home movies as one of my buddies followed me to George after the evacuation. He had remained behind as one of the security detail and helped with packing personal belongings...
@dennisg-ski7829
@dennisg-ski7829 5 күн бұрын
I was there. Aircrew (Flight Engineer) on the UH-1N Huey.
@antiquatedflatulence1607
@antiquatedflatulence1607 15 күн бұрын
My Dad had been stationed at Clark Air Force Base in 1967-69. RIP Pop 1929-2011🇺🇲🫡🇺🇲.
@stuckinmygarage6220
@stuckinmygarage6220 15 күн бұрын
Lots of our dads went thru there. 👍🇺🇲. (I forgot: some picked up wives along the way.)
@chrisjuhl801
@chrisjuhl801 15 күн бұрын
I had a relative in the navy tell me that the day before the blast, a scientist was running by the base commander and asked if he had jam in his back pocket. Asking why, he replied, if you don't leave soon, your a$$ is toast.
@angelachouinard4581
@angelachouinard4581 15 күн бұрын
Sounds like scientist humor.
@brentbackman2911
@brentbackman2911 15 күн бұрын
My wife was a kid in Porac, just south of Angeles City when the eruption happened. The stories she has told me of that time are worse than any horror movie I have ever seen. Her dad saved pictures taken then. My heart absolutely melts with sympathy when I see her with a blend of confusion and sheer terror from that time. She buries her head deep into my shoulder for reassuring comfort every night as a result of this experience.
@WhiskyCardinalWes
@WhiskyCardinalWes 15 күн бұрын
I remember this and the closing of Clark and Subic Bay. A bunch of us were sitting around the O Club talking about how they wanted us out, but the Philippines didn't think about how hard their economy would crash without the U.S. military there. They got their wish, their economy tanked, and the Chinese started looking at them. 20 years later they were begging us to come back.
@WhiskyCardinalWes
@WhiskyCardinalWes 15 күн бұрын
@@johndrennan5933 Their huge flag isn't doing much to protect them from Chinese fishing fleets in their territorial waters. That huge flag isn't doing anything to keep the Chinese Coast Guard from telling the Philippine navy to go pound sand when they sail around unstopped in their territorial waters. The Chinese aren't doing any negotiations, they are sailing in and taking what they want.
@justinriley8651
@justinriley8651 15 күн бұрын
​@WhiskyCardinalWes ya but that flag is big.they don't like Americans, but they sure do like our American money! nobody turns it down!
@robinseibel7540
@robinseibel7540 15 күн бұрын
It's weird how us Americans feel so superior to other nations and look down those, like the Phillipines, who don't enjoy our permanent presence; yet, I rather doubt any of my fellow Americans--especially the Keyboard Patriots,--would look kindly on other nations having permanent bases in the US. Graciousness and humility are apparently not American traits, and judging by the comments some have posted, neither is respectfulness.
@biggtrux
@biggtrux 15 күн бұрын
​@@robinseibel7540And you even gave yourself a ",like". 😂🤡
@natquesenberry6368
@natquesenberry6368 15 күн бұрын
​@@robinseibel7540There are multiple joint US/Foreign bases in the US where foreign military units are permanently based. Usually for training. The Luftwaffe has for decades trained its pilots in Texas at Sheppard AFB and in New Mexico at Holloman AFB. Royal Marines operate an installation in the desert west of Yuma, Arizona. The Republic of Singapore Air Force bases F-15s in Idaho, to access training space at Mountain Home AFB. There are others as well. Mostly because air space is available and training is easier.
@seanbigay1042
@seanbigay1042 15 күн бұрын
I was 26 years old when Pinatubo erupted. That event, coinciding as it did with the arrival of a major typhoon, led to a literal forty days and forty nights of torrential rain across Luzon. It changed the weather all across the world -- I especially remember CNN footage of a bemused Bedouin leading his camel through the normally dry and barren Sahara, wondering at all the green stuff coming out of the ground! Reynaldo Punongbayan was hailed as a hero for sticking to his guns and insisting that Pinatubo's environs be evacuated. He did indeed save untold thousands of lives -- the casualties noted by THG mostly came from a tribe who stubbornly refused to leave, holing up in a cave when the eruption began and subsequently being overwhelmed by the ash and lahar.
@Crazycoyote-we7ey
@Crazycoyote-we7ey 10 күн бұрын
I remember the Snow Storm that happened in Arizona after the eruption
@Crazycoyote-we7ey
@Crazycoyote-we7ey 10 күн бұрын
It caused Gobal cooling from 1991 to 1999
@WhaleGold
@WhaleGold 15 күн бұрын
I remember on local news someone's son was there and said it was the same smell as Mt St Helens May 18, 1980. I live in WA and collected a clear plastic tube of ash off my car hood, which is in my desk drawer less than a foot from my keyboard. Paid attention to news about it because I had been to the Navy Base many times during Vietnam and one trip to Clark. Now stuff I remember is "HISTORY!!!!!"
@EricSwearingen-oi1mc
@EricSwearingen-oi1mc 15 күн бұрын
I was a crewman on one of the USN ships that raced to rescue and evacuate people when the volcano exploded. We made several trips from Subic to Cebu transporting people…even their pets.
@viper2148
@viper2148 15 күн бұрын
My wife, two kids and my golden retriever may have been one of your passengers. My wife couldn’t say enough good about how the Navy treated our family. Thank you!
@EricSwearingen-oi1mc
@EricSwearingen-oi1mc 15 күн бұрын
@ We even had a Great Dane on board on one of the passages. All the crew(when not on watch) slept topside on the weather decks so that the women and child had abed(rack) to sleep in during each three day portage. They all had hot meals in the mess decks…we had battle rations. The relief in their faces made it all worthwhile..they had been through doomsday in their eyes.
@danaburnett1440
@danaburnett1440 15 күн бұрын
My mother, my brother, my 2 malamutes, and I may have been passengers. Just depends on your ship. We were on the USS Lake Champlain. The navy members were more than welcoming of us. I loved the rec room in the rough seas. It was like a roller coaster.
@EricSwearingen-oi1mc
@EricSwearingen-oi1mc 14 күн бұрын
@ 24/7 for a sailor for months at a time…glad you found some enjoyment in it.
@andrewcarmichael8683
@andrewcarmichael8683 15 күн бұрын
I remember this. My wife and I were stationed in Yokosuka Japan. Circumstances led to me planning a trip to Subic Bay for the following month! Then I saw the news and scrapped those plans!
@jerrymarshall2728
@jerrymarshall2728 15 күн бұрын
I'm currently living 20 minutes south of Clark (an hour east of Subic), in San Fernando, Pampanga Province, and the Pinatubo eruption is still fresh in resident's memories. However, good cleanup was performed on Clark, and the grounds, buildings and facilities are good. The International Airport of Clark is becoming a popular point of departure and arrival for travelers! I sure hope Pinatubo never decides to act up again, in my, or Wife's lifetime! We just moved into our new house!
@Milkman3572000
@Milkman3572000 15 күн бұрын
Retired Military?
@paulholmes672
@paulholmes672 13 күн бұрын
@jerrymarshall2728 We only go through Clark when flying back from the US. The only problem is Asiana charges a premium as they know going through Acquino a nightmares.
@mikenixon2401
@mikenixon2401 15 күн бұрын
It bothers me how so much takes place around the world, yet the U.S. legacy media focus battles only one or two political subjects. I confess appreciation for the Internet so I know what takes place around the globe. I thank you, Lance, for reminding us to remember there is more than our little part of the world -- yet it impacts us.
@laserbeam002
@laserbeam002 15 күн бұрын
Absolutely. Couldn't agree more. U.S news outlets totally suck. It's all politics and celebrity crap.
@chainweaver3361
@chainweaver3361 15 күн бұрын
​@@laserbeam002exactly why i dont watch the tv
@30yearsagonow
@30yearsagonow 15 күн бұрын
Operation Fiery Vigil really shows the importance of preparedness. Imagine having to organize an evacuation of that scale under such extreme conditions
@mikemcclure9983
@mikemcclure9983 15 күн бұрын
The Navy has plans for every type of event. They were great when I was aboard the Lincoln. I was on their last or third trip from Subic to Cebu. I was assigned to sleep in pilots quarters. I got into my upper birth and the pilots were sleeping on the floor. I couldn't sleep with them on the floor, so I went to the ready room to sleep and gave a pilot back his rack. They were doing out laundry on the ship and the crew had not washed their clothes for 2 weeks.
@Abbeville_Kid
@Abbeville_Kid 15 күн бұрын
I was at Clark when it happened. I remember it being black as night during the day and raining rocks. I remember and thank the Navy Exchange manager at Subic, who shared his house with me and the guys, the crew of the USS Midway who sailed us to Cebu, and the Air Force family who shared their house with us on Guam, even if it was only for a well needed shower and a nights sleep.
@timstatler7714
@timstatler7714 2 күн бұрын
My sister was a nurse at Clark and evacuated on the Midway as well.
@Abbeville_Kid
@Abbeville_Kid 2 күн бұрын
@ I don’t know how many trips the Midway made, but chances are, we were on the same ship. I was really impressed with the ship and the crew. Except for the guy buying all our Pesos. 🤣
@jayh1947
@jayh1947 15 күн бұрын
Thank You. I spent a lot of time at Subic and flew in and out of Clark. I remember there were slot machines in the terminal at Clark.....................Jay
@philippointon3692
@philippointon3692 15 күн бұрын
I have a very dear friend that I was in the US Navy Seabees with that participated in the disassembly of the bases after the eruption. The stories he told were quite scary.
@brucelytle1144
@brucelytle1144 15 күн бұрын
What do you know! I was on a ship headed to Damam (sp) to pick up some equipment and bring it back to the US. We got diverted to Okinawa to pick up "road equipment" and take it to Subic Bay, to help clear the "ash" (that was about 3 ft deep!). I had been told for many years that I should go sometime, I'd love it. Needless to say, I did not love it! Couldn't wait to leave! 😊
@nommindymple6241
@nommindymple6241 15 күн бұрын
This video makes me wonder where my brain was back in my youth. I was in the Air Force at the time of these events. I remember the eruption of Mount Pinatubo. But, as to the surrounding issues you talked about, I remember nothing. Thanks for the excellent video.
@RetiredSailor60
@RetiredSailor60 15 күн бұрын
To all veterans and active duty, thanks for your service. I was stationed in Norfolk/Virginia Beach at Fleet Combat Training Center Atlantic Dam Neck Operations Specialist A School at the time. I visited Subic Bay in 1986 while deployed on USS Cape Cod AD 43. Still remember the name of the young lady I spent time with during the 4 day port visit, Belinda Rojo
@RocketmanS2K
@RocketmanS2K 15 күн бұрын
I was aboard the USS Nimitz when this happened. We had just left Subic enroute to the Persian Gulf in support of Desert Storm. The eruption of Pinatubo and the subsequent disruption in fleet logistics support meant that we didn't get supplies and mail for 6 weeks.
@JoeCornellisson
@JoeCornellisson 15 күн бұрын
My dad was in the Army Air Forces and was stationed at Clark Field in 1939 to his capture in 1942. He said they would go hiking on Mt Pinatubo on the weekends before the war.
@Milkman3572000
@Milkman3572000 15 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for this History. I was at Subic Bay and rotated home in February 1991. My time in the PI was some of my most memorable. I was 20 yo, and in the US Navy. I remember the communists being an issue and the PI military fighting them across the bay. Theresa Ramirez.. I will never forget You. Now I know the.. Rest of the Story. I am told there is an American cemetery still at Clark AB...and American retired Military still take care of it. That info is over 10 years old now.
@evestone5361
@evestone5361 14 күн бұрын
Thanks for this Lance. We were stationed at Subic and had been to Clark a few times '66-'69. Then we were stationed in Yokosuka in '74-'78 where my dad was with the Midway. This was the first I've heard of this event , my birthday is June 13th. So many connections.
@keithpennock
@keithpennock 15 күн бұрын
I remember watching that eruption on television when my family was stationed at Carswell Air Force Base in Ft. Worth Texas. It worried a lot of the base community because a lot of people knew people stationed at Clark or Subic Bay, the military community felt like a small family when we realized how interconnected we were with events on the other side of the world. That feeling grew during Desert Shield & Desert Storm. As a military brat I’ll never forget the sense of military family we had. I tried numerous times & numerous ways to serve especially after 9-11 but kept getting medically denied, sometimes for the very medications military doctors had prescribed for me starting at Carswell AFB.
@franzgeil422
@franzgeil422 15 күн бұрын
I was there for this. I was stationed at Clark from 89 to 91. A wild time indeed.
@viper2148
@viper2148 15 күн бұрын
3rd SPG, Jan 1990 to Nov 1991. Yup, wild time.
@franzgeil422
@franzgeil422 15 күн бұрын
@viper2148 I was 3rd SPG also.
@viper2148
@viper2148 15 күн бұрын
@@franzgeil422 C-flight “panthers” Security. You?
@franzgeil422
@franzgeil422 15 күн бұрын
@viper2148 "A" Flight Security. Day shift. Barracks directly across from the Armory.
@viper2148
@viper2148 15 күн бұрын
@@franzgeil422 I’m sure we’ve met. I worked for TSgt “Big Al” Ilaoa. Maybe you remember him.
@GRW3
@GRW3 15 күн бұрын
Very interesting, History Guy, your entry becomes a gold mine of information from survivors,
@jonniez62
@jonniez62 15 күн бұрын
This isn't history, it was a part of my life. I was stationed on Guam and we received the majority of evacuees. The entire island was mobilized to support and help them on their journey back to the states.
@TheHistoryGuyChannel
@TheHistoryGuyChannel 15 күн бұрын
Your life is still history.
@DarrylMiglio
@DarrylMiglio 15 күн бұрын
@@jonniez62we were evacuated with our dog to Guam. My wife and I were asked by an Airman there if we would like to use his spare bedroom during our.stay . We were so grateful for the extreme kindness. Our dog was kenneled due to Guam's rabies quarantine and the Airman helped us visit the dog as he could see how anxious we were to find him.
@jonniez62
@jonniez62 15 күн бұрын
@DarrylMiglio may have been one of my troops. I was working on Andy South in WRM Dorms after putting a full shift in PMEL.
@Abbeville_Kid
@Abbeville_Kid 15 күн бұрын
I and some friends stayed one night with an Anderson family. It was really nice to get a shower after a few days.
@jonniez62
@jonniez62 15 күн бұрын
On day one, a young sailor hobbled over to the mini mart on Andy South and asked for help to get up to the clinic on Anderson. I was more than happy to drive several people to the base for medical needs. He had jumped off something on the Lincoln and had been dealing with it for a couple of days. I suspect he broke it.
@RileysAviation747
@RileysAviation747 15 күн бұрын
Hello History geek here love your videos keep it up man!
@lancerevell5979
@lancerevell5979 15 күн бұрын
I was into hobby photography when the Mt. Pinatubo eruption occured. I still remember how the ash in the skies ruined sky photography for several years, worldwude, turning the nice clear blue into a washed out grey. I had to use a blue sky filter on outdoor photography. 😮
@richardnixon5068
@richardnixon5068 14 күн бұрын
Thanks again for history that deserves to be remembered!
@cinnamonroll29
@cinnamonroll29 15 күн бұрын
The Mt. Punatubo eruption coincided with my birthday. It was a dark and gloomy day as ash fall reached as far as Manila, about 200 kilometers from the Zambales mountain range side of the volcano.
@Jason-7212
@Jason-7212 14 күн бұрын
I was a junior Marine with an Air Defense Battalion from Okinawa when this happened. We had been in the Philippines in April thru late May for Operation Cope Thunder in Crow Valley where we did simulated Air Defense against Multinational Air Force aircraft. The valley opened up on one end from where we were straight to Mt Pinatubo across some rolling hills and was about 15-20 kilometers from the mountain. We weren't told of anything going on but we knew something was because of the smoke on the mountain. By the time the operation got into full swing the old VHF radios (at that time our primary radios were Vietnam era equipment, the AN/PRC-77) we had couldn't send a radio signal across the valley at the 1-kilometer widest point or even from our 1/2-kilometer separation between our the Stinger Team positions because of the ash dust in the air on the valley. We were reduced most of the time to trying to communicate with hand and arm signals using binoculars. Communications even with the more modern AN/PRC-104 which was an HF radio with a supposed greater transmitting power and range back to our base at Camp O'Donnel about 15 kilometers away.
@MickeyD1968
@MickeyD1968 11 күн бұрын
Ash Warrior here. USS Roanoke AOR-7. We were part of the Lincoln battlegroup that was enroute to Subic when the mountain blew. All navigation speed limits were thrown out the window. It was quite impressive to see 90,000 tons of air craft carrier throw a rooster tail as orders were given to go "balls to the wall" for Subic. I seem to remember hearing "make best possible speed, but get your asses here NOW" come over the radio. We may have been a big ship, but we had a small crew, so we were only able to take a relatively small amount of people with us. But being a supply ship we had LOTS of food available! But we were a slow ship. By the time we made it to Cebu and started the return trip, everyone that was leaving was already gone. So we just turned and headed for the Persian Gulf to participate in Gulf War 1. We stopped off in Subic on the way home 4-5 months later, things had cleaned up a lot, but there was still a massive amount of recovery to do. And yes, I still have a handful of ash somewhere. Scooped it off a pallet of Coke into a ziplock baggie...
@texasj49
@texasj49 15 күн бұрын
I was an aircrewman on the Marine Corps CH-53's, aboard the USS Midway. It was quite the operation. It was an absolute mess in Subic and Cubi Point. I can only imagine how bad it was at Clark.
@Abbeville_Kid
@Abbeville_Kid 15 күн бұрын
I flew off the Midway in one to Cebu during all this. Bumpy but exhilarating.
@texasj49
@texasj49 15 күн бұрын
@@Abbeville_Kid Yep, Cebu is where we flew everyone to from the Midway. Who knows, you may have been on one of my flights. 🙂
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 15 күн бұрын
Thank you for the lesson.
@musicandfiction
@musicandfiction 15 күн бұрын
My uncle was one of the last people out of Subic Bay. He was a CPO on the Nimitz. He pretty much turned out the lights before Pinatubo heaved it's contents on the navy base.
@cynergy4
@cynergy4 14 күн бұрын
I remember for years after the eruption, we had what we called Pinatubo sunsets. Here in California, to this day, when we have smokey sunsets due to our frequent wildfires, we still call them Pinatubo sunsets. Sadly, we are experiencing that right now.
@chriswilson5257
@chriswilson5257 6 күн бұрын
I remember this like yesterday, I was a Marine at lower MEF!
@465maltbie
@465maltbie 15 күн бұрын
I had orders to Clark when the volcano blew up. I was on administrative hold for months before they determined what was to happen to me. In the end they just cancelled the orders and that was it. Charles
@BasicDrumming
@BasicDrumming 15 күн бұрын
I appreciate you and thank you for making content.
@hildeschmid8400
@hildeschmid8400 15 күн бұрын
That summer was cooler than average in Michigan. I was looking forward to a nice, warm summer after a winter of Lake Effect snow and sub zero temps, but was sorely disappointed.
@mikemcclure9983
@mikemcclure9983 15 күн бұрын
I worked at NAVSTA Subic Bay from 1986 until Mt. Pinatubo blew up. We had to evacuate folks from Clark Air Base first and I caught the last boat out, the USS Abraham Lincoln. It was fairly livable until the typhoon hit which sucked all of the ash moving east and dumped it right where I lived.
@johnjacob5839
@johnjacob5839 15 күн бұрын
I was aboard USNS Passumpsic T-AO 107, a Military Sealift oiler, at Alava Pier at Subic. We'd arrived from the first Gulf War earlier in the week. We ended up hauling a large number of evacuees to Cebu the week following the eruption. The eruption made me think of a dress rehearsal for the Apocalypse. Oddly we returned immediately to Subic to clean tanks in prep for eventual layup. When we were about 50% done we went to Yokohama, to finish up at West Pier, next to the MSC Far East Office. My first trip with MSC after spending 11 years in the Navy. An auspicious start.
@willracer1jz
@willracer1jz 8 күн бұрын
My wife was one of the evacuatees from Subic Bay, she was 13 at the time.
@HM2SGT
@HM2SGT 15 күн бұрын
One Financial quarter later, the Philippine government discovered that they had shot themselves in the foot by removing a major source of income with the spending of the personnel & dependents no longer based and quartered there
@Lessinath
@Lessinath 15 күн бұрын
Which they were warned about ahead of time, but, politicians would never let things like the consequences of their own actions get in the way of the bad policies they want to push. After all, even in the Philippines the politicians are almost all very wealthy, and are thus largely insulated from those consequences. So why would they care?
@scottabc72
@scottabc72 15 күн бұрын
@@Lessinath Many average Filipinos were still very angry over the US supporting the Ferdinand Marcos dictatorship for decades right up to a popular uprising finally overthrowing him
@Lessinath
@Lessinath 15 күн бұрын
@@scottabc72 Justified anger, you won't hear me supporting the US on that BS. Or any of the other times all over the world they've done the same or even worse things. It still hurt them more than it helped them to kick the US out.
@justinbell5696
@justinbell5696 15 күн бұрын
@@scottabc72 Yeah, they are still so angry that they elected Ferdinand Marcos' son as president.
@jon.p.
@jon.p. 15 күн бұрын
Shot in the foot, you mean, with the defective ammunitions and weapons sent by the US as payment for the bases lease? And financial? Wasn't the US paying all in credits, like 2nd hand materiale, and not cold hard cash, like the US$?
@fatboyrowing
@fatboyrowing 15 күн бұрын
It was a great episode! I worked for the US Navy just before this incident, I was not aware that it occurred
@Shadowkey392
@Shadowkey392 6 күн бұрын
How could you not be aware of it? This was global news at the time!
@JoelWelter
@JoelWelter 15 күн бұрын
I was in the Navy during that time and did not know 90% of the information you just provided. Thank you.
@The_Dudester
@The_Dudester 15 күн бұрын
I saw a documentary made by the volcanologists that were there. They stayed until the last possible second, racing a pyroclastic flow to get out.
@kendolnick1096
@kendolnick1096 11 күн бұрын
I was stationed at Clark at the time and was assigned to the 1SOS. We were flying a local training flight when the MT pinatubo started venting. When we landed I was astonished at the size of the umbrella and this was in early April. I was fortunate to PSC ( permanent change of station) back to the states in May so I avoided the evacuation. Which friends told me later about.
@kendolnick1096
@kendolnick1096 11 күн бұрын
I meant to type plume not umbrella.
@captainamerica3814
@captainamerica3814 7 күн бұрын
We lived in the Philippines 🇵🇭 when this happened about 100 miles South of Pinatubo. I remember getting up and looking out our windows and it looked like it had snowed. About a half inch of ash covered everything. The closer you got to Pinatubo the worse it was. The lahar flows off Pinatubo re-landscaped central Luzon. Lots of towns and farmland buried under lahar. It was pitch black, pouring rain mixed with ash. Apocalyptic. 😮
@briankoger6224
@briankoger6224 15 күн бұрын
I was Officer-in-Charge on USNS PASSUMPSIC and when we reported being ready to get underway first thing in the morning I was told in no uncertain terms that a Military Sealift Command ship was NOT going to be the first to be ready for sea, and I would just have to wait for a regular Navy ship to get ready... then we could be second.
@HM2SGT
@HM2SGT 15 күн бұрын
Reminds me of that line from Operation Petticoat: Lieutenant Holden (played by Tony Curtis) is an operator; during an enemy raid he says "In confusion there is opportunity!" as he races out to pillage and pilfer supplies and stores!
@christen1075
@christen1075 15 күн бұрын
Philippines was considered good duty in '91. It was also considered "good duty" in '41. Till the unpleasantness shortly followed. Thanks for the history of Clark AFB. I lived thru Mt St Helens 2nd blow and the ash clogged everything, especially drains (since it was dry). When the first rains came, unexpected flooding from backed up lines was a YUGE problem, totally unforeseen. Nature has a way of smacking you upside your college educated head. And that's a good thing.
@jimrapp6955
@jimrapp6955 14 күн бұрын
Thank you for covering this. Even though as I write this from Subic Bay where my daughter is going to school, our home is in Iba, Zambales, which is on the west side of Mt. Pinatubo. My wife and her family had a lot of cleanup after the eruption. Lahar still has to be dredged out of the river inlets to this day.
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 15 күн бұрын
Fascinating, thank you!
@karlporath8904
@karlporath8904 14 күн бұрын
I remember this well. Stationed in Guam at Anderson. From Desert Shield/Storm right into Firey Vigil. In transportation, we went from tons of ordinance to tons of people. Back in the states in Michigan at Wurtsmith AFB the next summer it never seemed to get above 60 degrees so I volunteered to go back to the sandbox, (where it snowed in the Persian Gulf).
@craigs1819
@craigs1819 7 күн бұрын
Firefighter at Anderson AFB Guam 1990 to 1991. Remember helping all the people out in hangars as they got ready to leave. People were given checks and orders anywhere. So many people. I am thankful to have helped out.
@wildbill1726
@wildbill1726 15 күн бұрын
After Pinatubo erupted, the worldwide temperature dropped by 1°c. This doesn't sound like much, but that winter, in the Northern Hemisphere, here in canada, we experienced extended periods of -40°c, and where I was working on a drilling rig, at Bear Canyon Alberta, near the Alberta British Columbia border, we saw -64°c, and extended periods below -50°c. In the 25 years I worked as an oilwell driller, I have not seen colder temperatures. Mount Pinatubo was to blame for this. Volcanic activity could very well be the event that can test the resilience of civilization on this planet. Man, it was cold.
@MattttG3
@MattttG3 9 күн бұрын
It sure will. Estimated state when one of the few super volcanos ends up erupting, it will put the world into a brand new start of ice ages. Essentially earth would be closer to how it appeared 10,000 years ago than anything resembling nowadays and modern times. Technically we are still in an ice age, because we have polar ice caps still. But yes, even the eruption of the 400s caused cooling of the entire world and was known as the "year without sun" but lasted a couple years. Particles in the air at such numbers reflect sunlight and UV rays, to the point that crops fail and temperatures cool. Unimaginable how bad it would get for the entire world if Yellowstone ever went full blown. Couple others worldwide but I only know Yellowstone by name
@turrtlejet
@turrtlejet 7 күн бұрын
I was stationed at Cubi Point / Subic Bay during this. and can say, Black Saturday was a stressful time.. Look into Operation Phoenix, this is where Naval and Marine crew dug out Cubi Point and Subic Bay returning the base to working order.
@raitchison
@raitchison 14 күн бұрын
I was among the last groups U.S. Navy sailors to visit Subic Bay before the base closed. My ship (USS Valley Forge) stopped there in late December 1990 on the way to the Persian Gulf for what would become Operation Desert Storm. Later in 1991 I flew through Clark just weeks before the eruption on the way back to the states.
@CandaceAustin-bv2wo
@CandaceAustin-bv2wo 15 күн бұрын
Thank you for all I'm learning
@samueltucker8473
@samueltucker8473 15 күн бұрын
It is good to have a history source we van trust
@spydude38
@spydude38 10 күн бұрын
Two years later, they were still cleaning volcanic ash from the HVAC onboard the USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN. We had to place cheese cloth over the diffusers in every space and in the morning you'd still find ash on your desk or any flat surface.
@jimstenz2459
@jimstenz2459 15 күн бұрын
I was stationed on the Abraham Lincoln then and I still have a 35mm film case with some ash from Mt. Pinatubo
@mikemcclure9983
@mikemcclure9983 15 күн бұрын
Thanks Jim, you guys were a lifesaver. I was on the last trip the Lincoln made from Subic to Cebu and it was the first time I used a toilet in 2 weeks. The dugouts were the best place to do your business.
@mariekatherine5238
@mariekatherine5238 10 күн бұрын
I lived at Subic Bay as a child in the late 1950’s. We had half a Quonset hut. Another family lived in the other half. It was great seeing the photos. The place was much bigger than I remember it.
@eldonhoward7925
@eldonhoward7925 15 күн бұрын
That is an amazing story!
@ZoomZoomMX3
@ZoomZoomMX3 12 күн бұрын
I did a report in elementary school on this mountains previous eruption. I wish I had the internet then or information on this eruption to do as good of a job as you did reporting this history. Have a great day
@AlanToon-fy4hg
@AlanToon-fy4hg 15 күн бұрын
And now we are trying to get those bases back...
@williamharvey8895
@williamharvey8895 15 күн бұрын
I remember it like last week
@howlinhobbit
@howlinhobbit 15 күн бұрын
I was in bed with a friend when Mount Saint Helens blew. I was in Everett, WA, hundreds of miles away and it was so loud it shook the rickety old building I was living in and I thought some drunken cowboy had crashed into it. I threw a blanket around my friend and practically dragged her downstairs, certain that the house was about to collapse. after shivering in the backyard for a while we went back upstairs and back to sleep. volcanoes are nothing to be ignored.
@larrydonovan1293
@larrydonovan1293 7 күн бұрын
I joined the LINCOLN after Fiery Vigil, when she was in the Persian Gulf. When we pulled back into Subic Bay in November ‘91 for a port call, when it rained small bits of pumice fell with the rain, and it was a sad place. It was such a difference between that 1991 port call and my first to Subic in 1984.
@RoninIV_unleashed
@RoninIV_unleashed 7 күн бұрын
I was part of this operation as one of the refugee receivers.
@frankgulla2335
@frankgulla2335 7 күн бұрын
Wow! I had forgotten this event and clearly did not understand the full gravity of the situation in the moment. Thank you, THG
@tmsmqwx
@tmsmqwx 15 күн бұрын
I was an Electronics Technician 2nd Class on the USS Lake Champlain. I vividly remember the experience of ferrying a couple of boatloads of civilians from Subic to Cebu. I'd spent a lot of time in the Philippines during my naval career and was very sorry to see it go - both figuratively and literally. With the current threat to the Philippines from the excessively belligerent Chinese, I suspect they wish they'd not been so eager to kick us out. Clark was a total loss, but the Navy would have definitely kept Subic if given the opportunity. Power abhors a vacuum, which is exactly what was presented to China.
@Lessinath
@Lessinath 15 күн бұрын
Just for fun, here's some minor yet incredible facts you didn't include. The eruption cloud was much taller than 12 miles on the day of the main eruption, June 15 1991. According to the USGS, the eruption column was "more than 40 km (28 miles) high." Although that pulse of the eruption lasted just 3 hours, the volcano spent 18 of the 24 hours that day in eruption and the "climax" itself was 8 hours of essentially continuous eruption. It also removed the top of the mountain, shortening it from 1,745m to 1,486m with the formation of a 2.5km wide caldera. But the human impacts you focused on are much more important than this stuff. Great video! I'm old enough to remember this one, although I was just a kid at the time.
@lexington476
@lexington476 15 күн бұрын
I remember that eruption. but do not remember the naval evacuation. Thank you for the history lesson from my youth.
@LGR605
@LGR605 15 күн бұрын
I remember this. Pinatubo would would come to be, in my mind, one the most extraordinary events in the last half century to impact US agriculture. This combined with burning Kuwait oil wells, instigated an atmospheric alteration of weather patterns affecting a large area of the crop producing areas for several years to follow. Even more so than Mt. St. Helen's May 1980 blast.
@Lessinath
@Lessinath 15 күн бұрын
Just think, this was still less than 1/10th the size of the largest eruptions in recorded history. But those eruptions, such as the 1815 eruption of Mt Tambora (which this same channel has a good video on) hit in eras before modern communications, so someone in 1815 in Nebraska would likely have no idea that a volcano in southeast Asia blew up. They would then certainly have been be extremely confused and scared when 1816 was unusually cold with wild weather pattern and temperature swings and snow even in the middle of summer in places like New York, earning 1816 the title of "the year without a summer." I am both extremely curious how an even larger event than Pinatubo would impact the modern world, but I know it would be really bad so I also hope to never experience it.
@LGR605
@LGR605 15 күн бұрын
@@Lessinath Agreed. I am well aware of the Tambora event, but chose not to go there because of lack of personal experience. I’m sure my great great Grandpa could enlighten me. St. Helen's and Pinatubo did however impact and definitely change how I farm and grow crops. More recently, the Hunga Tonga event of 2022 has had some repercussions as well. Lately, experts are taking note of slight increased activity of the Yellowstone caldera. That next event would be a dinosaur killer too.
@Lessinath
@Lessinath 15 күн бұрын
@@LGR605 Yellowstone would be a big problem, but not a mass extinction level event for the whole world, just like its past eruptions haven't done that either. Regionally devastating and global impacts, but not enough to be a major extinction event. But that's assuming it erupts, which as a geologist is not something I am convinced is coming any time soon. If it does erupt, that is also assuming it does so explosively. Most of Yellowstone's eruptions are actually big, sticky, rhyolite lava flows with minimal explosivity. The gas emissions from this lava are still an issue, but beyond the local area it would be an inconvenience, not a disaster.
@arnenelson4495
@arnenelson4495 15 күн бұрын
Another excellent video!
@ricksaint2000
@ricksaint2000 14 күн бұрын
Thank you History Guy
@LB-ty6ks
@LB-ty6ks 14 күн бұрын
Great episode.
@neilperry2224
@neilperry2224 15 күн бұрын
Happy new year to you and your family and friends
@rnedlo9909
@rnedlo9909 15 күн бұрын
It can be argued that the cooling of the atmosphere caused the conditions to form the 'storm of the century' in the form of the 1993 Blizzard that hit the East Coast USA.
@bruceb4349
@bruceb4349 15 күн бұрын
This was a very good one. Thank you THG
@Erik-rp1hi
@Erik-rp1hi 15 күн бұрын
As I watch this the sky above me is brown with some ash falling from the Eaton fire in Pasadena. The Pacific Palisades fire smoke flowing right out to see. Still uncontrolled as I right this with hundred maybe thousands of multi million dollars home destroyed. No water now and homes left to burn with no one in site.
@jmacld
@jmacld 11 күн бұрын
I remember this. I had friends in the 3rd LAI Bn. that pulled security during this operation. They came back to Twenty Nine Palms and told me that the ash on Clark was incredible and the base hospital and numerous aircraft had been abandoned.
@6000Chipmunks
@6000Chipmunks 15 күн бұрын
That ship's berthing compartment brought back memories. Looks identical to the one I lived in for years.😀 *Those bottom racks should be "Triced-up".
@lancerevell5979
@lancerevell5979 15 күн бұрын
On my ASW Frigate, early 1980s, I was lucky, had the top bunk of a stack of three. 😎👍
@6000Chipmunks
@6000Chipmunks 15 күн бұрын
@@lancerevell5979 I never liked the top bunk...everybody stayed up late reading and writing with their bunk-lights on, and there was always a shortage of curtains. 😵‍💫😴😄
@walterquick8649
@walterquick8649 15 күн бұрын
Connie, Indy , Ranger squid agreement
@Ryan-up5nv
@Ryan-up5nv 14 күн бұрын
My Brother was an Avionics Maintenance Troop at Kunsan AB, Korea when Mt. Pinatubo popped its top. A group of them were sent to provide maintenance support in getting jets down for repair up to flying status and out of there. During one of off-duty times he and some buddies went to one of the golf courses on Clark and got pictures of them playing a hole with the volcano erupting in the background. It is surreal set of pictures made even more surreal because they are color photographs, but everything is a uniform grey/white except for them.
@camaro5081
@camaro5081 15 күн бұрын
I went to tech school with the 2 airmen that were murdered. They were on temporary duty from Kunsan AB Korea. I was stationed at Osan AB when they were murdered. I did temporary duty at Clark the previous December and stayed at the same hotel.
@hankw69
@hankw69 15 күн бұрын
I was there when it happened. It was horrific. I had been downtown with a friend clubbing, we heard the shots but assumed it was fireworks. By the time we arrived at the hotel they were lying in the street and the killers had run off.
@viper2148
@viper2148 15 күн бұрын
I was stationed there at the time. There were three airmen involved. They were negotiating ‘trike’ fares (kind of like a tuk tuk) when they were ambushed in the dark. Two airmen were shot outright. The third panicked and ran toward the shooters who were in the shadows. This may have saved his life as they got spooked and ran.
@militaristicsoldier856
@militaristicsoldier856 10 күн бұрын
Of course it was Kunsan, imagine escaping that hell hole just to get murdered in paradise
@josephteller9715
@josephteller9715 14 күн бұрын
This is why the USA needs to increase its spending on Naval Support vessels, not just the warships. We need to not just depend on some contractors to risk their lives when things like this, major storms etc are endangering our bases and civilian lives. Right now we have a shortage of support ships because the Republican do-nothings refuse to spend the money to have such built to replace the old ones as they become unusable. Transport, Fuel vessels (we should have one fuel ship per carrier group, we don't), emergency support (the modern equiv. of the old Cape Cod) that can bring power, desalination equip etc to bear when a base gets hit by natural disaster or to any American Coastal city that faces such, and another couple of hospital ships would all make such a difference in disaster support.
@heshamoubari4224
@heshamoubari4224 15 күн бұрын
I was there aboard Midway. Just saw a snap of our hangar bay when we began evacuating Clark personnel.
@mikebrennan8288
@mikebrennan8288 13 күн бұрын
Years ago I talked to a vulcanologist who weathered the eruption at Clark, sheltering in one of the bunkers designed to survive a nearby nuclear blast. He said he'd been tending cameras trained on the mountain when it blew. He started running for the bunker, and passed one of the officers who was still there, and who seemed stunned by the rising cloud, The guy I was talking to said he told the officer, "Fill your pockets with jam, Major, 'cause if we don't get out of here, we're toast."
@appaloosa42
@appaloosa42 12 күн бұрын
I vaguely remember the name ‘Pinatubo’… working full time with 4 teen and pre-teen kids left little energy for world events. Thanks HG for telling us details.
@jimtalbott9535
@jimtalbott9535 10 күн бұрын
That winter was noticeably colder, from all that ash - I spent the Christmas break on the family tractor, trying to keep our 1/4 mile driveway open, with the continual snow we received.
@andychandler153
@andychandler153 15 күн бұрын
Love your jacket!
@EGSBiographies-om1wb
@EGSBiographies-om1wb 4 күн бұрын
I was getting outn of the USAF at time.I forget all about this. Thanx for posting.
@dallyre
@dallyre 10 күн бұрын
I left Clark AB about 10 months before the volcano blew. I had lots of friends participate in the evacuation to Subic Bay. One of my buddies, who ultimately remained as one of the security detail, followed me to George AFB and I got to see some of the home movies he took of the aftermath. Scary stuff...
@matthewjanssen7957
@matthewjanssen7957 14 күн бұрын
I was stationed in Germany at the time. My unit got personal from our sister unit from there. Many interesting stories from the fallout.
@brucefrytz8611
@brucefrytz8611 15 күн бұрын
I went to Subic Bay in the spring of 1992, the year after all this happened. There was a ton of ash still sitting everywhere. I watched the USS Independence make the last visit of a US aircraft carrier. As Lance said, the US pulled out later that year because we couldn't come to an agreement for the lease, we offered over $200M but they wanted more.
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