FIFTEEN carriage Class 730/2 on test on the WCML! 23/11/23

[@Steve-tr5ug]

“Due to a short platform the doors in carriages 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 and 15 will not open at the next station”

[@downonthestour]

Rugeley it would be 5,6 as well 😂

[@Steve-tr5ug]

And also 3 and 4 at Atherstone

[@lesleyhobbs2527]

Please move forward to leave the train

[@Unknowns841]

Due to a short platform only people in the front 6 coaches can board this train please move forward to leave the train

[@gapthemind--mindthegap8524]

@@Steve-tr5ug also the fact that these aren't traditionally 20 meter carriages. They are 24 meters. Which is crazy. If they do 15 cars. Then it'll be the longest formation in the UK

[@robotx9285]

Absolutely beautiful, this is easily one of the best looking British rolling stock ever.

[@downonthestour]

I have to agree. They look miles better than the previous Aventras

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

Not a patch on the Class 309s.

[@downonthestour]

Facts sir 😄

[@qss9705]

Fair play to the driver, he gave you a toot of the whistle/horn every time. 👍

[@downonthestour]

Yeah he's a friend of mine. Thought I was mad chasing him about 😂 He's not wrong

[@westcoast_trains_]

Why do these have a whistle?

[@downonthestour]

Depot Whistle

[@chiefpred9982]

I think these are one of the only trains in the UK built in the last 10 years that are gonna be liked by commuters and enthusiasts

[@downonthestour]

They'll still pick fault with them but the /0s are great I'd imagine these will be too.

[@Gideonsmythe]

@@downonthestour I'm very happy with our Aventras over here on the GA. The drivers love them apparently.

[@Thomas1980]

Fantastic video .....Thumbs Up!👍 Have a nice day 😀 Greetings

[@downonthestour]

Your welcome 👍

[@Trainhub2450alt]

i love the 730s depot whistle it sounds so cute!

[@downonthestour]

Indeed

[@devontrainspotting]

I don’t know why, but these remind me of the old Swindon intercity sets at the front. That lnwr livery suits them wife well I think.

[@downonthestour]

They definitely suit the livery. Thanks for watching 👍

[@andrewchaston503]

The Swindons now they were comfortable. Wickhams were as well. Like a Wolsley

[@jamesconnor4302]

They look fantastic if I’m honest, nothing beats the old stuff but we have to look to the future, great catches! They sound like Tokyo metro units!

[@downonthestour]

Probably one of my favourite looking modern units 👏

[@calebmumby5803]

Must've admit nice units glad you got some tones

[@downonthestour]

When the driver is a pal of yours it's tones galore lol

[@petermartin7350]

Looks good, but I hope the seats are more comfortable than the Thameslink stock.

[@downonthestour]

Seats are rather good if a bit small 👍

[@ChillSlots]

Fun video mate, I’ve left you a sub, have a good day pal! 👍😃

[@downonthestour]

Thankyou sir.

[@ConProductions]

Good catch

[@downonthestour]

Thankyou sir

[@ConProductions]

No problem

[@ZabDoes]

I know ScotRail's gotten 380s and 334s and 385s. but will we get more newer trains just like LNWR are?

[@downonthestour]

Think you meant 380s. ScotRail has plenty of new stock. They might get some more in the future.

[@ZabDoes]

yeah, i didnt notice lemme edit it

[@Thatoneroscalesandboxguy]

That’s a lot of carriages!

[@downonthestour]

Yep

[@tomheadington4762]

Seing a 15 car train just makes me happy inside aha

[@downonthestour]

It's an unusual sight that's for sure!

[@shihanthetrainspotter]

I wonder if they will have 10 car variants for the 730s

[@downonthestour]

They'll run in 2 5 car formations. They haven't ordered any 10 cars

[@AnubhabKundu]

The 10 car models exist for the Class 701 Arterio units

[@thetrainlover1231]

Wow

[@dailymemez34]

Finally now they have their own colour for wcml

[@downonthestour]

They always have sir. Unless your referring to the /0s in WMR purple 👍

[@dailymemez34]

@@downonthestour yes i am

[@joshuahalla.k.a.controlla6333]

Wow.

[@downonthestour]

Indeed

[@Swindon-wj8ud]

Presumably 103 and 101 will be renumbered now that LNWR have decided to designate all 5-car sets as 730/2

[@downonthestour]

They will once refitted to 2+2 seating. 👍

[@maxvandenberg6905]

How come LNWR where going to number them anyway as 730/1?

[@downonthestour]

@@maxvandenberg6905 as that was the orignal plan when they were going to be 3+2 seating. the plans changed hence the renumber.

[@maxvandenberg6905]

@@downonthestour thanks for this!

[@downonthestour]

Happy to help 😁

[@Deepleswanseavalleybusspotter]

I wonder you can go out through the gangway ends

[@downonthestour]

If they are connected you can pass between units.

[@ChoobChoob]

15 cars??? That's a seat for everyone at rush hour; with standing room for one-stoppers.

[@downonthestour]

Will only run in 10 car formations

[@bb-3653]

I think they are reffered to as 730/1s no.?

[@downonthestour]

They're all 730/2s just two of the units remain as /1s until the seating layout is changed 👍

[@bb-3653]

@downonthestour oh I see I see. It probably makes more sense for it to be /1 or even /5 But idk hahaha

[@diamondmanuk1356]

This train must be like 350m long

[@downonthestour]

Indeed!

[@cannadineboxill-harris2983]

I needed to know why they don’t dig a tunnel and do an extension for the main line Train so that they can extend the unused abandoned underground train stations. Why couldn’t they use the part D78 Stock train doors on the sides and also restructure the front face of the A60 and A62 stock that includes the class 313, class 314 and class 315 remix and make them all together and also redesign them an overhead line and also make them into Five cars per units and also having three Disabled Toilets on those Five cars per units A60 and A62 stock trains and also convert the A60 and A62 stock trains into a Scania N112, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXB, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Engines and also put the Loud 7-Speed Voith Gearboxes even Loud 8-Speed Leyland Hydra cyclic Gearboxes in the A60 and A62 stock, class 313, class 314, and class 315 and also modernise the A60 and A62 stock and make it into an 11 car per unit so it could have fewer doors, more tables, computers and mobile phone chargers. A Stock Trains and also having 8 Disabled Toilets on those A stock trains. why couldn’t we refurbish and modernise the Waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel and make it more Larger and extend it to the bank station, making it into a Triple-Track Railway Line so those Five countries such as Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden to convert the waterloo and city line Triple-Track Railway tunnel into a High-Speed Railway lines? The Third Euro tunnel Triple-Track Railway line to make it 11 times better for passengers so they could go from A to B. Then put the modernised 11 car per unit A Stock and put them on a bigger modernised Waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel so it could go to bank station to those Five countries such as Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. The modernised refurbished 11 cars per unit A stock could be a High Speed The Third Triple-Track Euro Tunnel Train So it is promising and 47 times a lot more possible to do this kind of project if that will be OK for London Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. oh by the way, could they also tunnel the Triple-Track Railway Line so it will stop from Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex so that the Passengers will go to Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland and Sweden and also extend the Triple-Track Railway Line from the Bank to Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex Stations so that more people from there could go to Australia, Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden more Easily. Why couldn't they extend the Piccadilly Line and also build brand-new underground train stations so it could go even further right up to Clapton, Wood Street can they also make another brand new underground train station in Chingford and could they extend the Piccadilly Line and the DLR right up to Chingford? All of the classes 150, 155, 154, 117, 114, 105, and 106, will be replaced by all of the Scania N112, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXB, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Five carriages three disabled toilets are air conditioning trains including Highams Park for extended roots which is the Piccadilly line and the DLR trains. Could you also convert all of the 1973 stock trains into an air-conditioned maximum speed 78 km/hours (48 MPH) re-refurbished and make it into a 8 cars per unit if that will be alright, and also extend all of the Piccadilly train stations to make more space for all of the extended 8 car per unit 1973 stock air condition trains and can you also build another Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive Companies and can they order Every 67 Octagon and Every 37 Hexagon shape LNER diagram unique small no.13 and unique small no.11 Boilers from those Countries such as Greece, Italy, Poland, and Sweden, can they make Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive speeds by up to 147MPH so you can try and test it on the Original Mainline so it will be much more safer for the Passengers to enjoy the 147MPH speed Limit only for HS2 and Channel Tunnel mainline services, if they needed 16 Carriages Per units, can they use those class 55’s, class 44’s, class 40’s and class 43HST Diesel Locomotive’s right at the Back of those 18 Carriages Per Units so they can take over at the Back to let those Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s have a rest for those interesting Journeys Please!!!!!!, oh can you make all of those Coal Boxes’s 18 Tonnes for all of those 147MPH Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s so the Companies will Understand us PASSENGER’S!! so please make sure that the Builders can do as they are told!!!!! And Please do something about these very very important Professional ideas Please? Prime Minister of England, Prime Minister of Australia, Prime Minister of Sweden, Prime Minister of Germany, Prime Minister of Italy, Prime Minister of Poland and that Includes the Mayor of London.

[@downonthestour]

Because they don't have enough characters on there keyboard like you.

[@BoscoR170]

What on earth are you going on about? Stop the wibble

[@andrewreynolds4949]

I have seen this exact same absurd comment several times now. Please stop it

[@davidbailey533]

Are they replacing the 350,s

[@oliverstemp9132]

They are replacing 350/2s, the /1s,/3s and /4s are staying

[@davidbailey533]

@@oliverstemp9132 cheers aren't the 350/2,s the ones that go to Liverpool

[@downonthestour]

All versions of 350 go to Liverpool

[@DANEBLUEGNOME]

Where did hell are they new team coming from?! 😧

[@downonthestour]

I have no idea

[@splittieful]

15 coach train

[@downonthestour]

Astute observation sir.

[@benjibatch]

ooh these have got noisy pantos, like the 80x's 7:37

[@downonthestour]

Indeed 👍

[@grahamallen1970]

Whistle and a horn? Ticket examiner...car 15 ticket evaders coach1😊

[@downonthestour]

Depot Whistle and Mainline Horn 👍

[@grahamallen1970]

@@downonthestour spot on

[@Henrythewcmltrainspotter]

What route were these doing?

[@downonthestour]

Oxley - Wavertree Junction Then Crewe - Warrington Bank Quay

[@supertrains156.66]

It kinda looks like class 385 at lest that is what I see

[@downonthestour]

Similar in some respects

[@MrTudwud]

Why 5 cars all the time these days? Let me guess; 5 vice 8, just as we have seen 3 vice 4 and, in the past 2 vice 3. The pandemic is still being blamed for "half-empty trains"; on my lines, a half-empty train would be a miracle. Bring back the 4 car units! By the way, I don't buy the "carriage length" theorists; it's the actual capacities I'm interested in.

[@oliverstemp9132]

They’ll mostly run as 10 carriage services, just like how the 350s are mostly formed of 8 carriages.

[@downonthestour]

They'll run in 10 car formations on the Crewe-Euston runs. And on the new half hourly Liverpool they'll run as 5 cars which is an increase in capacity on the 8 carriages an hour to Liverpool currently.

[@MrTudwud]

@@downonthestourI hope that you are right! The existing Euston-Crewe service quite often turns up with just 4 vice 8 recently. Indeed, the last 3 times my brother arrived on the 11:35 at Stafford (from Euston) it was only 4 cars. The only Liverpool 350s are on the Brum-Pool service and they are often just 4 cars except in the morning peak. Add in the Brum - Crewe via Stoke services that are only 4 cars and that are all the current 350 services at Stafford. I assume that you mean the "half hourly" service from Brum - Pool? I didn't know they are introducing such as service. I assume these new units will replace the 350/2s?

[@downonthestour]

Yes getting introduced with the December TT change 👍

[@MrTudwud]

@@downonthestourThanks!

[@ChineseTrainGuy]

Great trains, trash acceleration lol But they're still pretty good

[@downonthestour]

Accelerate Rapid to 90mph then struggle after that 👌

[@ChineseTrainGuy]

Imo 350 still better lmao