“She’s a Mentor” fun fact, in the odyssey when Athena is assisting Telemachus she disguises herself as a human named mentes… and then later another human named mentor. The guidance and help she provided Telemachus as Mentor is where the word comes from. So she’s not just a mentor, shes THE mentor
@kittycatzuka12 күн бұрын
Another difference is that in the Odyssey, Telemachus doesn't know his mentor is actually Athena, whereas here he's aware who she is
@ShyyGaladriel12 күн бұрын
Mentor was indeed a proper noun before it became a common noun.
@mobaobae11 күн бұрын
@@kittycatzuka actually he kind of knows
@mobaobae11 күн бұрын
@@kittycatzuka actually he kind of knows
@awakener-s3l11 күн бұрын
@@mobaobaeNot in Homer’s odyssey, he figures out Mentor is a god, but Athena doesn’t reveal herself
@MinecraftLovesSteve15 күн бұрын
Fun fact: for the official watch party, this song was accompanied by a fighting game animation, the animator of which is making an epic the musical game!
@hannahwilson677812 күн бұрын
i can not WAIT for you to listen to "We'll be fine"!!!!! the fjrst time i listened to it i was like "GET JEN ON THE LINE SHE NEEDS TO HEAR THIS!!"
@JenniferGlatzhofer12 күн бұрын
Hahaha coming soon!! 😁
@dustybooks_12 күн бұрын
we'll be fine made me BAWL LIKE A BABY
@makaramuss12 күн бұрын
I love how you paused "right before the punch happens" you and athena had same idea "what if it doesn't" :D
@galegames486711 күн бұрын
I was looking for this comment. XD
@sundalosketch476910 күн бұрын
Athena & Jennifer: Let's put a pin on that
@Mellohi_wither11 күн бұрын
0:37 wait until its telemachus' birthday If you know, you know
@Frostoad12 күн бұрын
I know you sometimes get blasted for the timing on pauses, but these were IMPECCABLE.
@JenniferGlatzhofer12 күн бұрын
😂😂
@licilicky12 күн бұрын
I'm not sure if this has been confirmed but I think the electric guitar happens for other characters (namely Eurylochus and Telemachus) when they're trying to emulate Odysseus. It happened for Eurylochus during Mutiny when he was trying to emulate Odysseus's leadership, literally rebelling and taking Ody's place as captain. While it happens for Telemachus here while he's trying to emulate Odysseus's strength, as seen in the line from Legendary "I would fight them if I was half as strong as you"
@TicoThyme11 күн бұрын
This is actually confirmed! Antinous actually has a few fun musical emulations. Yes the electric guitar (but a bit grungier than Ody's) but also the backing vocals of the suitors (Eury's whole thing) and he also has trumpets, giving Telemachus the same feeling as when Ody confronts Poseidon.
@PaulRaiiin1514 күн бұрын
It's still a few away but make sure after you watch "God Games" that you then immediately watch "hermes in god games" by gigi. It's less of a musical and more of bonus Hermes goodness!
@vic-c2x12 күн бұрын
That is a goldmine. And so in character too. She would love it.
@LordCrag199812 күн бұрын
When I saw Troy's original video for that I was laughing so hard I teared up. I know Jay has pretty much cast every part perfectly but Troy is just literally Hermes irl and I love that so much
@andronixbegayaf12 күн бұрын
5:41, damn that was a perfect pause. didn't expect that from you lmao
@JenniferGlatzhofer12 күн бұрын
😂
@dolphin6457512 күн бұрын
Good catch on the "Warrior of the Mind" melody! I didn't hear it until you pointed it out ❤
@GrimCreeper34912 күн бұрын
Fun Fact: Antinous(The main singer in the first half of Little Wolf) seems to be a false hero to the suitors, trying to take Penelope from her windowing thus he takes others instruments like Eury’s backup vocals and Ody’s guitar
@RayGainbows12 күн бұрын
For a second i was like "I already liked this video!? But i havent seen it yet" then i remembered that i liked it when it was announced a couple days ago. 🤣
@ashmimallick545412 күн бұрын
Jay has mentioned before that Antinous' instruments are a perversion of those he's meant to oppose: he had an electric guitar to show that he wants to replace Odysseus, a cello led string quartet (i believe that will be displayed in the last saga) to contrast Penelope's viola led quartet, and a trumpet. The trumpet is actually because Poseidon's instrument is a trumpet and Antinous is the main antagonist to Telemachus in the same way that Poseidon is to Odysseus. He's also represented by the voices of the suitors in the same way that Eurylochus was represented by the voices of the crew. Telemachus' instruments are a piano, an acoustic guitar, and some strings as well (for Athena, his dad, and his mom) though i firgot what strings exactly
@colt19039 күн бұрын
1:45 I wanna know where duvetbox got the idea for this pose. It's so flamboyantly evil that I swear I've seen it on a Disney villain before.😂
@Mijal1512 күн бұрын
That pause at 5:40 and the response after was so perfect knowing Athena was coming.
@FlaxenRabbit12 күн бұрын
Absolutely Love your reaction videos to the Epic series! Thanks for always making me laugh!
@JenniferGlatzhofer12 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@aadityayanamandra884611 күн бұрын
HOLY SHIT YOU SAID "ANTINOUS" CORRECTLY unironically, this made me hit the subscribe button
@DarkestNova55612 күн бұрын
I think one of the funny things about the other suitors is that they’re not even on Antinuous’ side they’re just instigators 😂
@markgreen599012 күн бұрын
Zeus doesn't actually give Odysseus the option to see his family again. He just said, someone's going to die, either you or your crew. Ody is the one thinking about his family. So, I don't think Zeus really cares about where Ody goes or what he does after destroying the ship. He just ensures that Ody isn't killed in the blast. If Ody drowns in the ocean after that then se la vie.
@esbeng.s.a976112 күн бұрын
So you proberly remember Little Ajax mension in The Horse & Infants. Well he got his own book about how he got home or more presisly got smithed by Athena for ra’ing one of hers prothet
@TrueHavoc133 күн бұрын
You can tell how much she likes Athena seeing as the pauses more than double when she comes in
@SadfaceCM12 күн бұрын
3:31 When a guitar is seen on a other character, typically it is seen as those characters trying to imitate Odysseus (E.g Eurylcous trying to take the ‘captain’ from him in mutiny, Antinous fighting to be the ‘leader’ of Ithaca)
@JenniferGlatzhofer11 күн бұрын
Ah nice!!
@HoyoNesia12 күн бұрын
5:45 THE TIMING
@reubenproctor934412 күн бұрын
Yes, i did listen to last one on your mind, and yes, it was in my head all week :)
@JenniferGlatzhofer11 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@reubenproctor934411 күн бұрын
No, thank you for making the world a happier place through your music ❤️
@ExCoolGuy9 күн бұрын
Last one on your mind is so good!
@JenniferGlatzhofer9 күн бұрын
Thank you 😁
@aadityayanamandra884611 күн бұрын
I love duvetbox's take on telemachus as a kind of angsty young dude who does TRY to train. Similarly, I love their portrayal of Antinous as fully willing to treat Telemachus like his son, but also being the kind of jackass that would beat his sons.
@SeidrSnowsong12 күн бұрын
3:40 yep! Antinious has electric guitar because he's trying to replace Odysseus! Just like when Eurloycus got it
@LordCrag199812 күн бұрын
I love the parallel of Poseidon calling Odysseus and his men the "pack of wolves" and here Antinous and the suitors calling Telemachus "little wolf." Father and son both being referred to as wolves (albeit mockingly) by their respective nemeses, and Telemachus wants so bad to be like his father and here he's being compared to him, even if neither he nor the suitors realize it. Also, Ayron Alexander deserves all the praise for his performance as Antinous, his voice is so perfectly smooth and playful for that part.
@CrazyGamebino12 күн бұрын
i think i mentioned on the legendary vid or another reactors page but this is my favorite song of the saga because its a good villain song with legenday being number 2
@karma_pup12 күн бұрын
I'm SO EXCITED tos ee your reaction to the next song. I have no doubt that there's gonna be more JenSqueals(TM) and I'm stoked. 😂 I also enjoy how excited you get for Athena to pop up
@JustTheseus12 күн бұрын
Jen's little bite to go along with Telemachus biting Antinous is so, so endearing
@andersstengard629312 күн бұрын
Towards the end there, you can hear the other suitors join Athena's singing when they sing the chorus. I like to think that they are cheering Telemachus on in this fight because he's doing a stellar job against Antinous at the end until the latter wins. Of course, why would they cheer for Antinous? Because ultimately, they're all rivals for Penelope's hand. If Antinous loses, then he'll be removed as a candidate. They're not personal friends, they all hate each other and this is just entertainment for them.
@BatoulZidan12 күн бұрын
Jen's face throughout Antinous' lines is very telling 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@DuskShadow23516 күн бұрын
I can just tell from her facial expression that she doesn’t like Antinuous very much (sorry if I spelled his name wrong)
@ismael961914 күн бұрын
I can’t spell his name either
@alexeysimushov497112 күн бұрын
Correct spelling is Antinous
@eclipse972712 күн бұрын
I mean... can you blame her? First full sentence she hears has the T word.
@koalaofthetrees6414 күн бұрын
Jennifer has made it clear to us that she dislikes Antinuous, very real, I don't like him too👹👿😡😤 ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Spoilers I hope he gets what he deserves in the Ithaca🤭😤 saga
@agent94111 күн бұрын
he’s not actualy trying to teach him anything. it is the excuse, the way and abuser says he’s teaching u. «it sounds playfull» is more acurat to what is happening here. it’s a grown man and experienced warior haveing fun beating a 20ish yr old who’s never fought, makeing it so easy it’s a game to him
@lauras.386312 күн бұрын
This is my favourite song in this saga! And the next one is my second favourite!
@mobaobae12 күн бұрын
if evil why hot? :( (also i love your new song, i listen to it every day when im getting ready for stuff , the vibe really makes me feel lighter, its a great song!)
@JenniferGlatzhofer12 күн бұрын
Oh thank you so much!😁
@Jennifer_J_C12 күн бұрын
Thanks Jen 😊
@himawari797111 күн бұрын
Can't wait for you to react to Love in paradise and god games 😭♥️
@blainedavis881912 күн бұрын
Can you PLEASE react to what the Wicked Movie channel posted where it shows them singing live on set? I would LOVE to see your reaction to that!!!!
@New.ideas.xx6616 күн бұрын
Omg I am your biggest fan ❤❤❤ Btw can’t wait for you to react to love in paradise(my fav song) and god games.❤❤
@agent94111 күн бұрын
the golf clap for the bite 😂
@callmekyu15 күн бұрын
I am incapable of patience I need Saturday to arrive
@ismael961916 күн бұрын
Thats the face of pure hate for someone in this musical, who I don’t know how to spell his name
@terra482215 күн бұрын
Just wait till Ithaca Saga, needless to say, he doesn't even deserve to have a grave.
@ismael961914 күн бұрын
@@terra4822 maybe they’ll dump him in the ocean
@alexeysimushov497112 күн бұрын
@@ismael9619 Fitting, since drowning is the worst way to go in Ancient Greece, since it's not proper burial.
@TheTuneShifter12 күн бұрын
Antinous
@razependragon747212 күн бұрын
Thx for the reaction
@pointeria12 күн бұрын
5:57 its funny because: Telemachus is 20 (and you know this! Proud), while Antonious(idk the spelling lol) is around 18 - 19. So Telemachus is basically the grown man here in the situation hehe
@dylanperryman800312 күн бұрын
Nah, the 18/19 year old Antinous was a guy in Roman times, over 1300 years later. This is Antinous of Ithaca, a separate individual.
@pointeria12 күн бұрын
@dylanperryman8003 wait there was another? I didn't know, atleast I didn't see ofcourse, but thank you! I haven't research that much anyways.
@Kamarovsky_KCM11 күн бұрын
@@pointeriaYeah this Antinous is at least 25. Upwards of 35 even.
@pointeria11 күн бұрын
@Kamarovsky_KCM very interesting lol !!
@sup3rhyp3r5612 күн бұрын
5:55 if I remember correctly Telemachus and Antinuous? Were around the same age
@balfturkey648515 күн бұрын
JENNIFER! you HAVE to react to loren allred “never enough” again but on agt. possibly the greatest thing i have ever heard🗣️💯 and i am sure you would be ecstatic watching it lol🙏🫶God bless
@Halvanhev12 күн бұрын
The staccato reverse wah wah sounds actually represents an ability Jay officially calls "Quick Thought!" hence Athena says "No, I just made your thoughts quick!", when those sounds appear it usually indicates Athena phasing in and out, and quick thought allows Athena to have telepathic conversations with someone within a single second! It's very present in all her other songs but this one gets me so hyped every single time! 🤍
@Genderless_spoon11 күн бұрын
As a fellow dinosaur enthusiast with very little knowledge about dinosaurs I salute you and also must know where you get your stickers
@KalebSparks-c7j12 күн бұрын
When you get to it you should do brittpowwpixel's love in paradise. PLS
@nicholasrolo88612 күн бұрын
"Need some help?"
@realjamesbowned16 күн бұрын
Lol athena looks so different in this one
@crisssstopher16 күн бұрын
yeah i dont like it
@Caedus69612 күн бұрын
@@crisssstopher Speak for yourself tomboy Athena is awesome.
@dolphin6457512 күн бұрын
I like how she has scars, like someone who's seen war, since she is a warrior goddess.
@crisssstopher12 күн бұрын
@@Caedus696 when did i speak for you? i said that I dont like it.
@SantosoWijaya11 күн бұрын
Everyone has the same hairstyle 😅
@Durrps12100Күн бұрын
Tags: #odysseus Odysseus: *not here that's for sure*
@prometheus349811 күн бұрын
I don't understand why y'all are so mad, Antinous is just being a good stepdad and giving Telemachus tough love.
@willhoffman512212 күн бұрын
For Future Reference: In this part of the Odyssey, Antinous is around the same age as (if not one year younger than) Telemachus. Adds a whole new layer to this, in my opinion.
@kittycatzuka12 күн бұрын
Yep, pretty much all of the suitors are their 20s. If they were truly "old" (or at least way older than Telemachus) they would have been drafted into the war 20 years earlier. Especially because most of them are from Ithaca, as well as nearby provinces. Basically high school seniors vs high school freshman is how I see it
@Kamarovsky_KCM12 күн бұрын
No. He. Is. Not. Younger... That stupid idea started because some fans don't know there could be multiple people with the same name, and they thought that Antinous, the boy "lover" of Roman Emperor Hadrian, is the same as this one. And he, quite simply, is not. The Antinous of Ithaca might even be as old as 35, and 15 year olds were not yet drafted to fight in the Trojan War. And it is said that he witnessed Odysseus in his youth, so at the least he's 25. But for Zeus's sake, he's not younger..
@Kamarovsky_KCM12 күн бұрын
@@kittycatzuka Nobody drafted 10 year olds. They all could be as old as 35, since the war was 20 years earlier.
@Kimyujin0069 күн бұрын
Please whenever you react to dangerous watch the full version by ximena 😭
@iamgay-ou7fb12 күн бұрын
5:57 and it’s not even a grown man 😭 telemachus is actually older than antinous (the suitor) because telemachus is 20-21 and antinous is like 18-19 years old
@Kamarovsky_KCM12 күн бұрын
He is not. You're thinking of the boy consort of Roman Emperor Hadrian. This Antinous is a completely different person, and is most likely at least 25, maybe even up to 35.
@iamgay-ou7fb12 күн бұрын
@ yeah i read about that now, my bad 🫡 thanks for correcting me!!
@abhorrentgrizzly173211 күн бұрын
Sleeping on Sleep Tokennnn
@JenniferGlatzhofer11 күн бұрын
I may have filmed some today😁
@abhorrentgrizzly173211 күн бұрын
@ ready for more your journey
@Spacen121312 күн бұрын
Please do Neil's animatic when you do god games it's top teir.
@ghastlyghost0w012 күн бұрын
Pls watch Neal Illustrators God games when you get to it, it's absolutely phenomenal 🙏
@darkmirror2112 күн бұрын
man, that version of god games is amazing but i'd say anniflamma's version is better because neal's don't have the full flashback for context
@ghastlyghost0w012 күн бұрын
@darkmirror21 True, I just personally prefer Neal's when it comes to designs and overall character - I like how they're all portrayed compared to some other renditions. I do agree though that the context is good, it's just if you were to ask who I'd recommend for god games, I'd always say Neal. Even then, at that part you're talking about, there is some flashes of a younger Odysseus, it's just not fleshed out.
@ShabnaFarooque11 күн бұрын
Well, yeah but neal's is I think the furthest from actual canon. I suggest going for either the livestream animatic (though that's unlikely) or another animatic (anniflamma, mumder, gigi's when/if it comes out)
@bagszi12 күн бұрын
Antinous is probably not much older then Telemachus. Telemachus supposedly around 20-21, since he was already born when Odysseus went to war and they sing it has been 20 years since then. But Odysseus took 600 men to war with him, which is probably most of the man that was old or young enough to fight in a war. So we can assume Antinous was too young at that time, so maybe 10-12 (probably older boys was able to fight). So he probably around 30 something at best. Even if Telemachus sings that there are 108 "old faces", it is doubtful many of them are old. This also explains why are they so shitty as guest. Someone called it "Fatherless" behavior. Since they were the young men left in the island they became the head of their families and nobody teached them to respect other or how not to behave. So they are all very rude as guest, but because of greek hospitability rules they have to be kind to their guest and give them food. And since technically it is Odysseus's house Telemachus and Penelope cannot really deny them to be guests here. Also Telemachus is the prince of Ithica, so he is very sheltered and unmature, that's why he is kind of like a young boy/teen even as in his twenties.
@Psub95012 күн бұрын
Antinous is way to attractive
@cowlord272112 күн бұрын
i think its funny that the Antinous in the book is only a little older than Telemachus
@Kamarovsky_KCM12 күн бұрын
Likely not "only a little older" as his father, Eupeithes is closer in age to Odysseus' father, than to Odysseus. So it would make sense for Antinous to also be older. Also, Jorge mentioned that Antinous is loosely based also on the character of Eurymachus, who's the actual leader of the suitors in the book. And Eurymachus claimed to be Odysseus's friends in his youth, so surely that would mean he'd also be around 30-35.
@callmekyu12 күн бұрын
I dunno guys, I don't think Jen likes Antinous ;}
@KrisACR-po1uq12 күн бұрын
I love how she says Antinous is a grown ass man fighting a 20 y/o when in reality he was younger than Telemachus 😂 antinous was 18/19
@dylanperryman800312 күн бұрын
Nah, the 18/19 year old Antinous was a guy in Roman times, over 1300 years later. This is Antinous of Ithaca, a separate individual.
@dustybooks_11 күн бұрын
what's funnier about you being like "this GROWN ASS MAN" is that antinous is younger than telemachus, he's only 18-19
@Kamarovsky_KCM11 күн бұрын
He isn't. That's a whole different guy named Antinous you're thinking of. This one's 25-35.
@dustybooks_11 күн бұрын
@ damn, could've sworn it was the same guy lmao
@SantosoWijaya11 күн бұрын
That’s the boy toy of Emperor Hadrian of ROME
@dustybooks_11 күн бұрын
@ evidently i have to brush up on my roman stuff lmao 😭 i appreciate the correction
@Michaellearnsart12 күн бұрын
.......hear me out chat......
@cloversghostsings12 күн бұрын
a little fun fact i havent seen anyone point out yet, most of these guys, including Antinous, are Telemachus' age give or take. (Yeah these guys are like the first "MILF" enjoyers D: )
@dylanperryman800312 күн бұрын
Nah, the 18/19 year old Antinous was a guy in Roman times, over 1300 years later. This is Antinous of Ithaca, a separate individual.
@cloversghostsings10 күн бұрын
@@dylanperryman8003 I was not refering to that Antinous i was refering to the fact that Antinous in the Odyssey was around 25 which is give or take the 21 year old Telemachus' age
@sunnymok663212 күн бұрын
Can you please not pause so much
@charaam69riprickmay69 күн бұрын
My brother in Christ. The video is a reaction and analysis of the song. If u wanna just listen then go to the song
@Nobody-zz1me12 күн бұрын
Sweetheart Antinous is younger than Telemachus
@Kamarovsky_KCM12 күн бұрын
No. He. Is. NOT. YOUNGER... That stupid idea started because some fans don't know there could be multiple people with the same name, and they thought that Antinous, the boy "lover" of Roman Emperor Hadrian, is the same as this one. AND HE'S NOT!! The Antinous of Ithaca might even be as old as 35, and 15 year olds were not yet drafted to fight in the Trojan War. And it is said that he witnessed Odysseus in his youth, so at the least he's 25. But for Zeus's sake, he's NOT. YOUNGER!
@Nobody-zz1me12 күн бұрын
@Kamarovsky_KCM bro calm down The place I've read said some wrong stuff apparently thank you for correcting me Now chill down damn, god forbid me for committing mistakes apparently I'll tell that to the literature teacher who told me that
@Kamarovsky_KCM12 күн бұрын
@@Nobody-zz1me AOkay sorry for being so vehement in my words, but god damn there's just way too many people out there spreading so many false factoids about the lore of Epic without ever checking if it's even real, and thus making others believe them and have their experience completely altered. Same with that thing about "oh Ancient Greeks actually never said sorry so Ody's apology to Poseidon was correct!" which is also just bullshit
@Nobody-zz1me12 күн бұрын
@Kamarovsky_KCM it's fine I'm actually happy that you corrected me, I hate spreading miss information, I think the Odyssey on my school was mistranslated or smth Just try being calmer on answering ppl, sometimes they searched stuff but they don't know their sources are wrong
@icemagiciangh12 күн бұрын
For a song analysis, AnniFlamma or Noir.Hyancith will have an easier God Games to follow, but I really hope you get to see other God Games.