Fight over bowl gouge grinds

This was my longest video and also most video footage video I have ever made.
A lot of time went to make this to hopefully help you out clarify bowl gouge grinds and also which one you may find best for your needs.
Let me know in comments section about what you have strugles with so I could make a video on the topic and help out someone.
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disclaimer Methods that are shown works great for me and they are not only methods out there, if you find this or any other method not comfortble,please use some other way.
Thank you and enjoy

[@robohippy]

Taking a lunch break, and will come back to this. With the 40/40 grind, with a parabolic flute, the wings tend to be a bit rounded. With the V flutes like Thompson or D Way, the wings tend to be straighter. I have found that with a concave surface, even with over half of the bevel ground away, I don't get as smooth of a surface as I do on a convex surface. I figure it has some thing to do with the grind, and not me, but I could be wrong.... Back to work, I have a show in 4 weeks, so lots of bowls to turn.

[@Bootes1]

Wow, a lot of information to take in here, I’ll be watching this one through a few times trying out the grinds. Thank you so much Tomislav.👍

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you very much for watching and comment 😀

[@nathangoodson7390]

Thanks for spending all the time you did to bring us such an in-depth, educational video. This is well worth the time spent to watch again and again!

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you very much 😀

[@danielmierop662]

New to turning, I love your teaching and photography. Very valuable.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you,It means a lot 😀

[@jimgill1105]

I've seen many a videeo on bevels/angles etc. - this has to be one of the best for making it clear what the angles are and the best way to use them. Nice one Tomaslav😀

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you very much Jim,I really appriciate that

[@William_Kenny]

Another masterclass tomislav thanks for sharing buddy very informative 👍 🙂

[@kevinseigworth271]

Fascinating. Saved me a lot of time and steel. I have often wondered about this topic and made some half attempts myself but nothing this comprehensive. Bravo!

[@iancompton6961]

thanks again for a great video Tomislav - we use your videos as learning tools for our turning group. and there are many comments that you are a very good teacher.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you very much,glad to hear that ☺️

[@drawingisfun3564]

Can't thank you enough Tomislav for the time and effort you put into shooting and editing your videos...They are helping so many people out. This is another one I am adding to my favorites!!!

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

No problem,I enjoy doing this and glad to help out ☺️

[@ericeinsmann5559]

Excellent video my friend! Very comprehensive! Packed full of useful information. Now I understand your recommendation from the other video. Thanks!

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you,I really appriciate that

[@HRConsultant_Jeff]

That you for this in depth video. I use a sweptback grind that is asymetrical but I am willing to try a different grind of 45 degrees instead of the 50-55 I do now.

[@fern6114]

Very good explanations for old beginners too Behind all fathers in law there are mothers in law 😊😊

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

That is true , soo true😅

[@SuperCruelworld]

Tomislav, Thank you for this explanation not only on the cut and scrape, but the explanation of shaping the tool. this will be watched many times

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Awsome,glad you liked it and thank you for watching

[@paulmonk9506]

The next time I turn the outside of a bowl I shall be practicing shaping the bowl with one hand while opening and closing my jacket with the other 😂

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

😂😂 I might do video on what can be done with other hand while using push cut around the bowl🤣

[@make-somedust]

Been turning for years, still learning new things everyday. My take away is the curved wings on the asymetric grind vs straight wings which I have been doing forever. Gotta try this out.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Glad to hear that my videos help out, thanks for watching

[@Konst-j9j]

Доброго дня, Томислав! Ты и тёрнер великолепный, ты и учитель прекрасный!!! Спасибо тебе! Всё разложил по порядку, всё по полочкам, всё технично и понятно. С огромным удовольствием всё посмотрел. И в очередной раз убедился в том, что точить можно и топором, важно только отработать технику работы. У меня нет, как у многих, машинки для заточки. Я приспособил для этого ленточно-шлифовальную машинку и точу на наждаке. Держу угол заточки 50 гроадусов, но как назвать подобную заточку - я не знаю, она не похожа ни на одну из тех, что можно видеть на Ютьюбе. Но с подобной заточкой точу и снаружи, и внутри. Всё дело в технике, мышечной памяти. Спасибо за видео. Болею за сборую Хорватии! Константин.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Belt sander is ok for sharpening and I have used old tinny grinder for years .... So if it works for you it ok. Thank you very much,our first game wasn't great but next will be better.

[@carstenpedersen2177]

Hi Tomislav, I really appreciate your hands-on approach to your explanations. I've been trying to get at better feel for gouge grinds for years. Still not there, but you definitely brought me many steps closer. Kudos also to your photography. One small ask: Please use a steady camera when explaining with the whiteboard. For me, the movement really distracts from listening to what you're saying.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you very much, glad videos help out ☺️ I'll see what I can do as its hard to get a good tripod position for the white board😅, but I'll try to keep it steady more. Thank you for watching and feedback ☺️

[@yveslandreville1375]

Thank you for all the time you invest on showing people all these different grinds, and showing live the differences between them and your personnal point of view on them. Yves

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you very much Yves, glad to help

[@richardbufton3605]

Great video Tomislav. After 12 months of turning I like the finger nail grind and i do take the heel off just so it cuts a bit better inside a bowl

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you Richard, I also do that, find it more usefull that way

[@bespokewoodartistry1517]

Great info mate, picked up some handy tips especially your grinding technique. Liking your videos greatly keep up the pace well done!

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you very much

[@larrycresse753]

You are over loading my brain. Great information

[@haraldmayer8113]

Thank you! You`re such a patient teacher and you present so much experience and knowledge.

[@jayscott306]

Very good, Tomislav. Great explanations and demonstrations. I know I'm prone to getting in a rut so I listened to what you had to say to see if I should try something different. I think I'm happy where I am, but might try a steeper angle on the nose of one gouge, just to see the difference on entry cuts when hollowing.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Play around and you'll find out if it works for you.... That is beauty of turning

[@DancingFox6]

I use mostly fingernail grind in the neighborhood of 45 degrees as my favorite after years of trying everyone else’s favorite grinds. All of this information is reassuring. I’m still not clear about the function of the asymmetric grind, even though I’ve heard Richard and now you explain it. I’ll watch the videos again. Thank you for all you share with us. Do you know when will your Refiner be available in the United States? I wasn’t ever going to buy any more new tools, but in this case I have to make an exception.😊

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you very much, Its in final stage of prototype, hopefully this week or early next I should be getting final product and I can finally finish website and promotion, and launch preorder for refiner and burnisher. Benefith of asymetric grind to me is its easy to control and the right wing is nice and stable for hollowing. Also surface it produce is really nice

[@christopherharrison6724]

Great information I use scrapers when necessary so the swept back Irish grind would not be for me.I think the 45 deg grind would suit most of my needs.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Same here, I just love using scrapers 😉

[@Neverforget133]

Good teaching videos very nice amd calm approach 👍

[@angelarmas8017]

Excellent video

[@waynegilling6048]

great instructional video from one of the masters. I am just a beginner with the wood lathe, so a lot of what was said is information I will file away until I get more experience and get deeper into the craft but it is good to know there are many different ways to do different tasks so try them all and see what works best with your style.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

That is beauty of turning,so many different ways to do the same task, find what works for you in a safe manner and wish you good luck sir, thank you very much for watching my videos

[@robertcornelius3514]

We older turners should do only one thing to make our gouges sharper. We need to start out with a new pair of reading glasses.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

😀😀 that is ok, what ever helps 😀

[@fern6114]

😂😂😂correct

[@ErnestoB-bb4dv]

Very good lesson for me. I also liked that you showed how to start a cut and the control of riding the bevel.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you very much

[@markduggan3451]

Lots of information to take in there.

[@dirkvanbesien]

Very good info for me to. I have to check my angles tomorrow. I’l always struggle with sharpening. Many thanks tomislav.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

No problem, I'm happy to help

[@dennisgoring4727]

Thank you this has beed a problem for me. Best info I have come across, Thanks!!

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you,glad it helps

[@stevehubner560]

That was very informative for us week end turners thank you

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you

[@DudeKK75]

Simply great explanation of the different grinds Tomislav. Very helpful - I will try the asymmetric grind next time. Thanks a lot

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you very much sir

[@davemoffat8047]

Many thanks. Lots of information and things to think about

[@krperry2007]

This video is one I really needed. Will you talk about the arc you follow as you cut from the outside to the center? Is this to keep the bevel in contact or to avoid alignment with the grain and cutting edge?

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

That could be interesting video, I'll put it on the list and you will see it soon hopefully ☺️

[@billstoffle7383]

Thanks so much for the tutorial i always learn alot of things from them keep them coming

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

I'll do my best 😀

[@tonyturnswood]

great explanation and detail! This is a master class! Thank you Tomislav!

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you Tony

[@tommt4283]

Thanks!

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you very much 🤗

[@BobBlarneystone]

Thank you for the detail explanations.

[@peltona]

Hi Tomislav, I'm a big fan of the 40/40 but as you said, there is a place, task or sometimes wood type that other grinds and cuts perform better. You glossed over the flute types only stating you use the elliptical flute type. Any particular reason why? I've got on V gouge and don't like it but can't explain why, I just keep it as a swept back grind for shear scraping.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Hello hi I don't like V flute either, to me comes down to sharpening, its just more difficult to get the profile you want of V flute as the sides are straight and blending it to round bottom can be a challenge. With eliptical flute its easier even if you made a small mistake.

[@michalcoston3949]

great info ! thanks for all that information !!

[@Michael-loves-woodgrain]

Very instructive, thank you good go to video

[@robertwilson54]

Tomislav can I ask where you get your scrapers I have tried on line but don’t seem to beable to find them

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

I got mine from Crown tools Sheffield, you can contact them direct or depends where you are there are numerous woodturning stores that sells them☺️

[@Mewoodguy]

Love your videos. I think there are quite a few more advertising breaks though. A few too many I think.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Well, its longer video so there will be more of them, I have no control of that but I do get something little back from those ads and I do try to keep my content free for everyone,so I think watching few ads that can be skiped to support my work is not that difficult.

[@DancingFox6]

I have found it very worthwhile to subscribe to KZbin and never have commercial breaks.

[@perrys5954]

Thanks for this video it was very helpful to give me an idea of which grind has its own advantages. I have a set of three gouges I just got but unused yet as I hadn't decided on a grind yet. Just wondering. If the biggest negative of the last swept back grind was its steeper 50+ degree angle, could a person not just do that grind with a 40 or 45 degree angle?

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Good question, the thing is that its personal preference, some like 50 or higher , Some like low degrees. The beauty is you can play around with this and combine so many different angles and shape to eventually fit your needs

[@perrys5954]

@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning Thank you for the reply! I guess if ever there was a time to experiment with different grinds it is now with my beginner inexpensive steel to waste on testing. :)

[@jpncompany6275]

This is my personal opinion. 40/40 V-flute & bottom bowl gouge give the best surface especially in difficult wood. However, there's more than one way to skin a cat. Sharpness and tool control are most important. Raffan's grind and a scraper obviously work also. Every small movement, pause or heel touch leave tool marks, burnish marks, undulations etc. and those take time to fix. I don't like taking ton's of time having to fix and refine curves. Just me.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thanks for your feedback, hopefully it will help someone, that is beauty of turning,all the different ways to do same task

[@anthonyball2757]

If I wanted to purchase some of your work, do you ship to the USA? ....Happy Father's Day....not sure if y'all celebrate Father's Day or not, but just in case. 🎉

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Thank you Anthony, happy father's day to you as well...we do celebrate but it was March 19th.☺️ I send regulary my turned items to United States,if you are interested,feel free to send me e-mail [e-mail] Thank you

[@lVl1GGL3]

What grit is your CBN wheel Tomislav?

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Its 180 but I'll add 80grit as well I hope

[@joehimes9898]

I‘m a little confused. It seems to me that the right wing of the asymmetric and 40-40 are essentially the same. Am I missing something? I like the soft edge of the left wing. Much less catchy. Thank you for all you have given the Woodturning community worldwide.

[@tomislavtomasicwoodturning]

Good eye sir, top portion of right wing is similar to 40/40 but towards the nose its different profile a bit... more rounded over. Thank you very much for kind words 😀