Tai Chi Master Called Out On Stage - Hilarious Push Hands Fail

[@sifuniko]

Great video! I'm glad you're calling these fakes out! They are poisoning my art and making it look terrible... He wouldn't stand a chance with me, im someone who is an actual expertise at Tai Chi and has battle tested the art! 🤗

[@AlexKono999]

do you have any proof of your words?

[@sifuniko]

@@AlexKono999 Look me up! ✅😘

[@AlexKono999]

i have found only demonstration videos and no real fight or at least full contact sparring

[@sifuniko]

@@AlexKono999 considering this video is push hands maybe look up my push hands.

[@fistandantilos]

​@@sifuniko sorry, I dont get the point, is a martial art ou pushing hands art? how do u aply that in a combat?

[@pohutukawajay]

That random guy waited his whole life for this very moment.

[@Joobkl]

He's now at a re-patriotism camp

[@FlatlandMando]

And judging by the relative ease that he became somewhat credible skills against " mastery", many & many others would like to try this challenge

[@DataGeek903]

Obviously the audience member had his right toe up, and his tongue on the roof of his pallette. Everyone knows that defeats chi power, esp the no touch dim mak.

[@DarkstreamLIVES]

Plus... the audience member was a total non believer

[@Fritz999]

How about Dim Sum?

[@deltahunter2302]

Hahahhaa.. Are you a joker?

[@richarddeerflame]

The audience member actually has got some training, he isnt a nobody.. you can see it clearly.

[@josephgammora3405]

As an aging fighter (43 y/o) who's cross trained a lot, some tai chi principles are really helpful in a fight (relaxation amidst intensity, distributing weight down to make me harder to throw, etc...), and tai chi has remained an awesome exercise for join strength and micro-muscles that don't get hit in weight training. As with most of your vids, pressure testing is key, and if you're just using one system to fight, you're gonna have a hard time.

[@neokimchi]

yeah I'm not an older guy but i train tai chi quite a bit. i like tuiso but initially didn't think it was that productive, until i had my first bjj session in a long time, and suddenly found myself having a MUCH easier time finding strength and structure without burning a ton of muscle energy. it was not subtle. but push hands as a sport is a different conversation, and honestly this guy does not seem be at a high level in it. he's just a master of the forms i guess.

[@shinrikiway9889]

I use my taichi against all sorts of styles, and it's been effective so far- nice to see a fellow martial artist employing neijia principles!

[@wolf360090]

nothing but a waste of time studying it

[@SolidStructureWC]

Tai Chi is less useful than Yoga.

[@Catgat37]

I am 40. And also have trained multiple styles in my life. I recently was taking a Taijiquan class from a guy who spent 30 years as a green beret hand to hand combat instructor. He of course integrated different styles into the class. But the core of his system was deeply rooted in Taijiquan. I just wish I could keep taking it.

[@skipsch]

Alan Watts said it best when he said if anyone presents a discipline that's really rigid and weird then people will be like ah now this is it, this is the real thing

[@skipsch]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/n16Wc4Nvqd6BnKsm20s Alan Watts quote reference

[@skipsch]

"Watts was a drunk and drug abuser. Who cares what he has to say." Well problem with humans is we need such a perfect source for truth, rather than knowing how to let truth stand on its own

[@StimParavane]

Alan Watts was not a practitioner.

[@tranquil2706]

@@StimParavane No, but he was a thinker!

[@Nattapong69]

Uhhh, no they won't. Most people are normies. Show them something unique and they will avoid it like the plague.

[@taichichuansifurob]

The gentleman who challenged the Tai Chi Master had a strong root and the Master could not find it.

[@ikkong8436]

I believe most times students of taiqi masters just feel intimidated or respectful of their masters and just follow the flow of his master. A non student will not do likewise and in this video it just showed that a non student cannot be easily shoved off. There may be many genuine masters but equally there are many fake so-called masters.

[@ExecutionSommaire]

I have some experience in capoeira and it's a similar principle, you get used to a certain flow and when you bump into a beginner who is frantically kicking and coming into contact you're all thrown off. Fortunately nobody in my club pretends to be a real fighter. I would not try to mess with our main teacher though, at high level those guys also practice hand strikes, take downs etc in addition to the devastating kicks and insane fitness level.

[@akotolozano9708]

Taichi is just for exercise you cant use it in real fight and theres no such thing as master coz its just for show lol.

[@tofumonster8913]

Master Chen zhonghua is good at push hands and likes to demystify Taichi by explaining using physics.

[@Zz7722zZ]

Yep, after years of following him on KZbin I have decided to switch to his school. I like his practical approach.

[@emilianosintarias7337]

There are videos of taiji players beating greco-roman national team athletes in sparring. Here in Thailand, taiji guys have done well in muay thai competition, because of the clinch takedown/dumping aspect. Any traditional art will have its share of fake teachers ,but the art is real. Don't forget that jiu jitsu was once dominated by fake teachers after the samurai period and before the judo period. It is a socio economic phenomena.

[@dxmakina]

links?

[@emilianosintarias7337]

@@dxmakina search tai chi push hand tian long and the channel called shadow xu. you can see national team wrestlers and mma fighters lose greco rules matches(and win a few) to tai ji players

[@JansTaiChi]

One thing that's missing with many Tai Chi practitioners is MARTIAL LOGIC. When people start understanding the value of thinking and strategy in their Tai Chi, these stylists will have to evolve or be called frauds. Great video. Sending love.

[@dorkvader2673]

Push hands and sticky hands are some of my favorite 2 man excersises but it can also be lethal.

[@francoiswilliams]

Taichi is a great art...when you get it right

[@spaideman7850]

unfortunately all these master skewed it towards 'arrogant and stupid chi'

[@5elementsfit]

He wouldn't stand a chance... Challenge me 🤗🤗🤗

[@FightCommentary]

Sifu Nico!!! Pinning you!

[@kevinlobos5519]

Hi Sifu Nico, you rock man! You have developed a beautiful skill. Or a great kung fu, in other words.

[@richarddeerflame]

haha not very Humble here lol. We need to be humble and proove our art before speaking . Thats the first lesson in Martial arts... there is always always someone better than me... I remain silent and train and never engage.. only if someonen engages me.. then i have no .... oooops i failed now i must take back what i said. Wisdom is to refrain from contnest... however if challenged be original and real... Then no regrets

[@slawomirostrowski7213]

After all, the demostration consisted in showing individual, agreed techniques. So, for example, if you push me, I will answer in this way. And then a person from the audience comes out who wants to try the same thing, but does not do it, but introduces an element of free sparring. This is my understanding of what happened. If a man in the audience wants to make unassumed techniques then he should say "hey let's do push hands" and then we would have a completely different picture, I presume.

[@mannybrucesalvador]

Yeah figured him out & made him sit down 😳. How embarrassing for this Master. I wonder what his explanation and excuse was 🤔.

[@theblackswordsman5171]

Take a seat old Taichi SkyWalker. You may be on this council but you are not a master.

[@FightCommentary]

Best comment ;)

[@theblackswordsman5171]

@@FightCommentary Thank you. Have a great kung fu day 😀

[@Zz7722zZ]

If you are interested in seeing how a tai chi practitioner actually pushes or sends someone flying back in an un-rehearsed or non-compliant setting -> kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2PSYpqfmMuZm7s the tai chi guy in black shirt does this a few times within the 1st minute of the video. It's not going to look as clean or as impressive as demos though. Anyway, I think the MMA guy in the video is probably a relatively unskilled beginner so I'm not posting the link as a style vs style thing.

[@elenchus]

it's an interesting twist on judo and wrestling in some of those. A little percussion to get someone over a trip. I'm very interested to see what they come up with over the next 10-20 years as they incorporate more and more judo and wrestling into the syllabus.

[@Zz7722zZ]

@@elenchus The 'techniques' used by the tai chi guy are quite typical and historical (anecdotally traced from early 1900's at the least) ones for this style and not incorporated from judo or wrestling although there are definitely similarities. You would probably find that the tai chi 'techniques' look crude and less technical compared to those in judo or wrestling.

[@Zz7722zZ]

@Gabrielle Christian - be more aggressive - you’re falling at a touch, it’s not like this even against kids. - be more aggressive, kill him! Note: ‘kill him’ is just an expression, it’s not as extreme as it sounds. Towards the middle and end of the video: - 10 seconds. - loosen/open up and throw, loosen/open up and strike. - 10 seconds.

[@MaxLohMusic]

Science and actual data over what happened in real life, over faith/theories of what's supposed to happen. You're doing the good work man.

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Man the NFL needs to sign up this master he knock offensive linemen on their butts!

[@bestcarschannel6898]

😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@moycious]

At 1:54 he actually gets him. If you are expecting tai ji magic, it is pretty easy to nullify - like this man and others have proven. If you had some tai ji techniques mixed with some direct strikes - it can catch you off guard and be quite useful. But the internal aspect of martial arts takes a long time to develop and today’s masters might not even have them at combat level proficiency. The internal kung fu does lend itself to health, especially for those that have lost some of their vigor.

[@TheOnlyGHOST1015]

If we didn't have video these Days these Fake Masters would be Legends in your neighborhood lol

[@tttITA10]

Fun fact: according to a doctoral dissertation presented at the Lougborough University by this gentleman called "Gehao Zhang" (pages 63 and 64, but the whole thing is really interesting), it was this Wu family who supposedly found the first main text that reffers to this Martial Art as "Taijiquan", a probably partially faked manuscript now known as "The Salt Shop Manuscript". So, yeah, the lineage from which this guy comes basically came up with the name of the Martial Art: this man is genealogically almost as legit as it comes, but he still has no clue about fighting.

[@FightCommentary]

Wow! that is so fascinating! What's the Chinese name of the "Salt Shop Manuscript?"

[@Zz7722zZ]

@@FightCommentary 鹽店譜, which contains the Taijiquan Treatise 太极拳论. Supposedly found in a salt shop owned by the founder of wu 武 style, Wu Yuxiang’s brother. A bit sus if you ask me.

[@tttITA10]

@@FightCommentary Both the dissertation and a random citation I found on google by Wu Chengqin (the guy who suposedly found this text) say the original title of the text is simply "taijiquanpu"/"tai chi chuan manual" (I imagine 太極拳譜 would be the hanzi writing? I don't really speak chinese). According to Wu Chengqin, this was a text on/by the yang family martial arts, but, so the dissertation goes, the name was not popular at all (apparently, not even in the yang family circles), until this guy found the text and made the name famous. Edit: aaay, someone found the proper name/writing. Cool B)

[@Velasca]

I never trusted the salt shop story and suspected it was made up. Apparently Wu Yuxiang also spat his dummy out with Yang Luchan because he suspected he wasn't being taught the full thing. Of course maybe they were also not as good as the stories make out but I wonder how much Yang Luchan or Yang Banhou worried about the classics

[@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812]

Many great masters have had terrible students lol.

[@torstenbeck640]

The problem the taichi master have to face is, that this guy honestly speaking, got knowledge from chi sao from wt( or other arts that teach to relax). Everytime the tc master want to apply the force to the body of the guy from the audience, he took his arms back or he pulled instead of pushing. Guys, If the bridge is not installed you cant drive your car over the river ! 24 years WT teached me that ! The tai chi master is not that bad as you think, he's just young and need to stack experience !

[@sweeper_of_streets3849]

It must have been the air in the room that threw him off. He wasn't in his natural habitat.

[@12feettall6]

"Plus"

[@seeagain2]

Some brands of airconditioners also disturb the air charge. Also, the guy should have stayed natural and kept his glasses on. No costume changes to trick the teacher!

[@user-mn8tz4nf2s]

Or the guy with glasses had his big toe crossed over his ring toe and it nullified the effects

[@seeagain2]

@@user-mn8tz4nf2s Hmm... true, but I'm concerned about all the tricks getting out there if we give these comments. We could upset the self-defense market...

[@WarriorBoy]

And let's not forget that he probably rushed to the seminar that day and didn't eat lunch!

[@mizukarate]

Had a similar situation with my Wing Chun teacher. First he was a good martial artist but had holes in his game. So Sifu tried to lock up in a wrestling clinch with me(I wrestled in HS). He told me to resist and not let him throw me. This was in front of a crowd and I meekly protested. However he insisted we locked up. So we locked up and I resisted. Sifu tried over and over. Eventually he gave up and waved me away. Oh well.🥋🥋🥋🥋🥋🥋🥋🥋🥋🥋🥋🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@LRkun]

I like tai chi for health reasons and breathing. If you're calm and fight, it's an edge. Take the being calm and then learn boxing, grappling, and weapons.

[@skipsch]

Tai chi letting me down again. Lie chi.

[@shadowfighter6445]

Gee I wonder what's going to happen to the tai chi master 🤔😄? Thank you for sharing ☺️.

[@elenchus]

people will make excuses for him on the internet

[@Nunyabizn3ss]

@@elenchus ^this. "The challenger lifted a toe up, messing with the master’s chi", "the master was poisoned prior", "the stage was uneven". There is no end the the BS, that BS’ers will try to BS you with.

[@S.N.T.247]

To be frank tho, the challenger was holding on to dear life. Wasn't really doing the training exercise

[@berkstaichi]

I don't know who this Master or this is or if the challenger is actually "random", but he probably is an experienced martial artist. Please pause/freeze at 1:53 and notice that as the narrator gets excited about the push, the Taiji guy has regained a solid stance while the challenger is flying backwards. Just sayin'.

[@ConsiderIslamLIVEKennyBomer]

This narrator of this video is ridiculous.

[@richarddeerflame]

Yes he is experienced martial artist..... you are 100% right.. the narator ius wrong in this video. I still finnd it a little lame the student help the master a bit more than they should... But yes... Its not a true example here... Silly video.

[@nizz0matic307]

bro he's claiming to use chi to have super pushing power, if he can't do it do a random chubby middle aged person and only his own student, it's not real, grow up

[@dingosmith9932]

It's the old story, the more these "master's" play with their compliant students, the more their real combat skills are blunted ...

[@elenchus]

it's one thing to debunk a master in MMA, with thousands of new variables, but to debunk them within their own claimed sphere of expertise is even more effective

[@lazyguy3555]

It's quite obvious that the "random stranger" has good taiji skills, which Sun Jian Guo respectfully recognized.

[@ironwill4706]

We're seeing more and more of this

[@FightCommentary]

More to come ;)

[@cbooth2004]

Thank you for giving us the tones. That is very helpful.

[@DavidLeeKim]

Yes it's true. A person that gets thrown back by the push hands techniques relies on the volunteer cooperating and allowing himself to get pushed back. If the person resists and gets out of the line of pushing force, it's not going to work.

[@taichipandabat6153]

easier said than done, Tai Chi is a funny art because what goes on is invisible you have to feel it......this is why it's hard to convince people it actually works

[@richcollins3490]

The challenger used the gum on sneakers technique to defeat the master, how clever.

[@kevinlobos5519]

This just shows that some of these people are actual lifelong martial artists and not pretenders, they don't intend to scam their students, they actually believe they are fighters or that they have developed a skill applicable to fighting through the years of training.

[@Fritz999]

Possible, but not likely.

[@Sebastianx007]

The tai chi master didn't necessarily get dragged he lost yes but judging from that first try there was a little Power behind that first Push! Even watching a Second time when dude pushed the tai chi master he barely budged!

[@Mantisboxers]

Great clip! Keep fighting the good fight, Jerry.

[@Fritz999]

I like to see situations of that kind. In practically all martial arts exhibitions it is a given that the "lesser" partner is a willing and compliant partner. Usually there is no quick fix for non compliance or active resistance. To be clear about this, for a clean and clear exhibition, some compliance is helpful. But a master ought to be able to overcome none compliance or resistance. If not capable of overcoming, do not ever do exhibitions of techniques. It makes the so-called Master look supremely silly.

[@canaldesugestoesa6651]

this is good to show the difference between a student and an opponent, the problem is precisely that, applying only in the air without an evident reaction.

[@lhh627]

From a 72 year old practitioner (since 1964) of Tai Chi Praying Mantis : what a fake master who doesn't even understand the purpose of Push Hands technique. So many impostors and impersonators nowadays !

[@urbanarmory]

I mean it's damn sad when you've got a tai chi master who can't even legitimately deal with a push hands challenge... Take it easy Jerry, enjoy the smoothie time while you're waiting for your face to feel better

[@Fritz999]

Actually, that was a really easy problem to solve. But then I never did either Tai chi or Karate.

[@fallingleaveskungfu]

Unpopular opinion: for an uncooperative demonstration, it's a fair representation. Obviously you're not going to bounce your opponent out the same way you would somebody offering you their structure. How well he would have done against strikes is another thing, but the basic point is it's tough to fight me when you're already fighting for your balance. I think what this guy showed was a reasonable display of manipulating the balance of an uncooperative opponent.

[@chrisgermann6658]

The audience member was not a believer so he was able to nullify it. :)

[@Spikebert]

That "really big Tai Chi master" in the momentary part of the clip, is Lee Scheele, a two time heavyweight push hands champion. I've touched hands with him at his Meetup practice. He's 75 now, and still very good at what he does. But no, push hands is not fighting, but I believe it can be a good skill to add into other training. I hope I can find the full clip of Lee vs the wrestler.

[@RocknRollkat]

This is not fake. It is called "Elastic Force Chi Kung" and it works quite well if you're not expecting it. Like anything else, if you're expecting it, it can be defeated.

[@NinjaRabbott]

That one was strong in the force.

[@Fritz999]

Yeah, long live the force.

[@zachtbh]

That taichi master should take a seat in the audience and that guy from the audience should be seating at his place on the stage

[@ominae1]

Push Hands is just an exercise. If you break the rules of the exercise (like grab the clothes) is become something else.

[@Quantum3691]

That non-complying guy was sent by Xu Xiaodong.. He's a graduate of The Fraudulent Masters Exposure Academy. 😆

[@FightCommentary]

HAHAHA :)

[@Domzdream]

I love the sheer surprise of that master when his magic doesn’t seem to work on this peasant. I mean - ‘what kind of sorcery is this !’

[@centurione6489]

Aikido (marginally useful MA) sandan here. I decided to implement my "internal power" with Tai Chi. While pushing hands, the deputy instructor pissed me off and I kicked his butt real hard. So he went crying to the chief instructor who challenged me. As the top dog had biceps the size of my thighs ... I decided to bow out. 🤣🤯

[@kevinjung6130]

Lovin the clean shave Jerry! Hope your weight gain project is going good - adjusting to eating w braces is tough. Great content as always. Excited to see more challenges!

[@atomic_wait]

Don't be like me as a kid and stop wearing your retainer! Years later I just had to fix them all over again on my own dime :p

[@neokimchi]

yeah the shave was a great call!

[@helgar791]

Seems like there was a little sugar in the Chai Tea.

[@sattoriemei3210]

Tai Chi push hands is just a training exercise... and like any training exercise it has certain rules which needs to be followed.

[@pasthuman]

Love these vids

[@robbanbobban2]

Chen Ziqiang is a Tai chi master you might actually be interested in. He does some good, honest pressure sparring.

[@user-mn8tz4nf2s]

You're doing the real martial artists and the world a favor with these videos. Thank you

[@waynet8953]

One of the key differences is the sensitivity of the master; it allows him to stay ahead of the opponent in response.

[@---Free-Comics---IG---Playtard]

This is the answer I was looking for, the random dude from the crowd obviously knew the form for pushing hands as you can see them follow it - while raising their hands. Many don't understand this "dance" because they have never "pushed hands" before. The close proximity and slow movement aligned with your partner is only half of the exercise, wherein strike opportunities are traded. Just because the random got a few strikes doesn't mean the master failed. As you said "mastery" in Tai Chi (from my understanding) is that of sensing and perceiving - allowing "energy out".

[@masaiman26]

Tai Chi master sitting down thinking: there ends this livelihood

[@SachaGreif]

The reason students always go flying in these kind of demonstrations is that they’re cooperating with the teacher by not adjusting their stance to regain their balance like a normal person would if they felt off-balance. Which means once they do lose their footing they have to make these big backward leaps to regain their balance. If you leaned back further and further and waited for the last possible moment to correct your posture to avoid falling the same thing would happen to you.

[@joeblow7488]

The braces being tightening is the worst, then those little rubber bands having to put them in omg ! I hated it ! So painful for a couple days !!! Good luck with it !

[@I_Might_B_Wrong]

Congrats on taking care of your teeth, my friend! I just finished getting mine straighted a couple months ago and am 32 years old. Takes some confidence to do in adulthood.

[@FightCommentary]

I"m doing it for my bite. I've never chewed well, so that's why I decided to get braces.

[@I_Might_B_Wrong]

@@FightCommentary Nice! I did mine because I wanted 4 chipped teeth fixed so I'd look more professional at work. I had to get them straightened first in order for the chips to be fixed because the teeth needed room for material to be added. It's been life changing more than I expected.

[@mtower235]

I missed my calling. I shoulda been a weatherman and a TMA “master”. Where were these tables at on high school career day?

[@juleslongdin-prisk4232]

The guy who came up from the crowd is definitely kung fun trained also. Perhaps a Chinese shui Jiao wrestler

[@HonkeyKong54]

Funny in every video where a tai chi guy gets punched in the face all “training” goes out the window and they usually resort to a brawling stance

[@nicholasferrara5078]

Yes more tai chi masters!!!

[@michaelcook2290]

You've tightened your braces? Loosen them Jerry, they're interfering with the Tai Chi master's chi. Only explanation for what I just saw.

[@FightCommentary]

The bottom teeth hurt so much right now. I think even the Tai Chi master feels that pain that I'm feeling and it's affecting his ability!

[@elenchus]

@@FightCommentary legendary debunker James Randi used to keep the time and place of some tests within his organization (the JREF) secret even from him, because people started to claim that he was secretly a wizard and was using his own mind powers to interfere with their own psychic abilities, making them fail the test.

[@drpavlovic1411]

I don't know what did you see. I see a man who grabs master hands every time when he should be pushed. This way, nobody can't be pushed.

[@Brykk]

Another great video

[@FightCommentary]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@JIMA-Club]

That's not some random guy, but a skilled practitioner. Seems to that berating a guy for loosing runs counter to the principle of testing oneself.

[@Heping1]

Actually, we see two guys crossing hands. From one we know the name, from the other one not. Maybe the other one is also a master? Actually, the video says nothing, as long as we don't have a background about the other guy. And it has actually nothing to do with Xu Xiaodong.

[@wrhader2203]

keep em' coming!

[@anonimuso]

The next time I see an old person doing Tai Chi in the park, I'm going to go challenge them to a push hands contest.

[@WhoThisMonkey]

I challenged them to a bare knuckle boxing match.

[@Joobkl]

Has to be at perfect location, time, air must be fresh and stars aligned

[@errolflimflam953]

Love this. Did anyone ever tell you you have a Woody Allen nes? It's all great

[@Gongfutube]

The challenger in this case is very likely experienced in Taijiquan tuishou (and because someone already misunderstood and responded, I said experienced, not skilled. He's not good, just done it before). It very much looks that way from an experienced viewpoint. It is not that he is showing great skill but he knows exactly when to let go, how to refrain from over-extending himself and resting his weight on his own legs rather than falling into any trap (falling onto the opponent when enticed). This guy has certainly pushed before and knows the pace and pattern of the game. This is probably why he wanted to make a showing of challenging this "master". These video discussions are interesting but there is always the tendency to miss the important details without a background in the art or related arts to what we are seeing. You can see many comments on here (as well as the general idea of the commentator) that this is a random guy who is.. proving again that Taijiquan or pushhands is fake. Although there are unfortunately many examples of exactly fake Taijiquan it is important to understand that originally it was not fake and there are still surviving examples of schools/teachers/practitioners who treat it as a non-mystical and very practical martial practice without any fakery. What the "master" is attempting to show here is a 'too good to be true' example of magically manipulating his own compliant student who provides a stiff arm response for his to launch the guy, or alternatively a compliant ragdoll for his teacher to toss around as desired. In the real world practical context an opponent or even practice partner will offer neither of these things and the exchange will look entirely different. Generally speaking Taijiquan has three ranges, like most other arts; kicking (distance) striking (broken contact) and grappling. Tuishou (push hands) is basically a set of partner practices that sits in the transitional area between striking (sanshou of broken contact) and grappling ranges. It can deal with the inner striking range as well as the tight grappling range. As soon as practitioners break contact and back away it is basically violating the terms of the tuishou practice, which generally seen to be focusing on sticking contact one way or the other. An interesting measure of Taijiquan skill or martial realism is examining whether a practitioner/teacher can handle range transition, and this tends to be a trend across many 'fake' examples. When such teachers break down, or are exposed in these videos we normally see that they look very good with their own student but when faced with someone who forces them into a less than idea range they have no plan nor ability. In this case this teacher looked fine with his student (although not believable) but when the challenger pressed his range and closed the gap the teacher mostly failed. Then the teacher tries to attack in demo fashion but the challenger pulls away giving him nothing to use. The next entry by the challenger the teacher is then pulling away and retreating at every touch. This is showing the fear and the inexperience of fluid range abilities. If this teacher was legit he should have been able to allow this challenger to pass ranges and had something to offer other than just retreat. What this is showing is that outside of his own students he has nothing useful to offer at striking contact range, and totally uncomfortable at grappling range with even less ability and just resorts to fear. The legit traditional schools and teachers of Taijiquan are fairly few and sparse as commercial money tends to favor hype and fakery, but they do exist. It is unfortunate that few more mainstream outlets such as this channel have the knowledge to find and examine the real examples. Here is an example of my teacher from years back entertaining the attempts of visiting students to have a try at him while trying to teach some concepts. These are friendly exchanges but also not compliant and can provide a view of what a real martial practitioner freely improvising really looks like as opposed to the kind of hyped up crap that we see in so many debunked demos on youtube: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKPCZaKMj8aDmrc Here is another example from way back. I was training with him at the time and I was certainly not compliant, but the second guy who shows up at 3:08 is totally an unknown quantity who just showed up at the park with his kid and was curious. He also had a little try, and this is a very good example of what a fairly inexperienced but intent person looked like having a try against a real practitioner. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2LIqWewptBkb9U I hope some of the skeptics and naysayers out there eventually do learn about the real art of Taijiquan. Happy practice everyone-

[@SolidStructureWC]

Lol, a highschool wrestler would maul this "challenger".

[@Gongfutube]

@@SolidStructureWC many people would. He was not any good, just familiar with the game, rather than just a random person.

[@Domzdream]

Now I wish these people applied that same kind of ‘realisation’ to religions. There’s be more love than war, I know it !

[@robertvong]

This is not hilarious at all because the master did ok. The challenger clearly flew back when he finally committed to a move at 1:53

[@Axiomatic75]

I like to watch Tai Chi and would probably practice it myself at some point but as a martial art it isn't effective, though there are probably some useful principles contained in it. It certainly doesn't give even a master some incredible powers.

[@ProgramasespiasNet]

Thanks for this great channel, I wish I could understand chinese so your translations are appreciated. I will probably just be a troll in defense of fake martial arts but it's still a great channel.

[@kradfreedom9624]

Im planning to study martial arts not because i want to be a professional fighter someday but to give myself a push because everytime theres trouble my hand wants to punch someone but my brain and heart keeps on telling me to stay calm and just let it slip. I want to do this for myself as self defence.

[@Fritz999]

I know of martial arts blackbelts that got a solid arse kicking in an ordinary street brawl.

[@me0101001000]

I don't know if anyone here knows anything about computer engineering, but the way I think of martial styles like Taijiquan, Aikido, and Wing Chun, are the same way I think of computer languages. There are low level and high level languages. This does not refer to the difficulty of the language, but how fundamental they are to a device's function. High level languages are things like Python, C, Java. Low level languages which are more fundamental to the device doing anything at all include Verilog, Assembly, and FORTRAN. If you want to build and program a device yourself, you must learn the low level languages before you can even consider anything on the high level. Everything I mentioned before, as far as martial arts go, are high level martial styles, which are great to learn and practice, but if you want to use them in combat, we need low level stuff. Low level means your wrestling, kickboxing, Muay Thai, the likes. When you're programming your own original device, you MUST master low level code before you ever attempt anything high level. The same goes for martial arts.

[@FightCommentary]

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[@joshuajtm7202]

you look good brother i love your videos

[@thenameless2379]

Tai Chi is only for relaxing and strengthen one's mind and find inner peace. It's not for combat. Tai Chi Quan is for combat. However I highly recommend Tai Chi for inner peace.

[@Dr_MF]

I love martial arts .. never had the chance to practice honestly.. I also love how you always expose the bulshido .. i mean those so called masters .. watching them is worse than watching a bad movie

[@budisutanto5987]

1.53 When his opponent push back, a . . . (what's the word?) Tai Chi master, would move & let him pass . . even pull opponent to the ground. Tai Chi is . . soft art, it didn't . . force thing to happen. He might be a genuine Tai Chi teacher, but here, he force thing instead of using the art. It's like he forgot to applied the principal. He need refreshment on sparring train. Badminton or tennis, you watch and strike when it's the right moment, not before, not after. That moment only as long as a blink of eyes.

[@PinkPoodleVoo-Doodollcon-ob6mn]

A tai chi master is a teacher and he is not unbeatable as any good will gladly teach his students who are expected to excell and develop their tai chi like an artist does with clay.

[@mario6814328]

They always do it with their own students for this reason

[@nathanwatches]

I think that random dude is a skilled push hands players by the way he stand receives the masters push.

[@tonbonthemon]

Sun Jian Guo is said, based on one website, to be a distant descendant of Li Yiyu, who in turn was among some of the earlier names of early Wu-Hao Style masters.

[@FightCommentary]

Interesting!!

[@Zz7722zZ]

Direct/orthodox lineage is not a guarantee of skill.

[@tonbonthemon]

@@Zz7722zZ That's right. Take from it what you will!

[@unkn0wnrge189]

Student legs were paralelal while guy legs were in combat position, which means he has floor support and divided weight, which means this technique would never work out on him, I think agaisnt a student anything can work out.

[@spaideman7850]

the guy who challenged the master has 'Suck chi' kung fu

[@ariturbo4094]

This create a big laugh to original Tai chi

[@GuitarDog_atx]

A true master wouldn't be wearing pants that are too big for him.

[@rikyjo8966]

Wait...Asian persuasion Woody Allen calling out fake martial arts masters??? Liked and Subscribed!💪

[@JaybayJay]

I'm not saying this guy's techniques are real, I don't know, but it is similar to something I've done in the past. But I'm also a big guy, 6'4' 200 pounds plus when I did it and this thing I use to do would be to tap an opponent quickly with my palms under your clavicles to offset an opponent's balance then I would plant myself and lift them as I pushed them as hard as I could, throwing them backwards. I've thrown a buddy of mine pretty far back like that when he was training with me but I was putting a lot more into it. This guy's technique requires a willing opponent to show it, mine you don't.

[@sataystick3937]

i think the taichi master never say that the pushing strike cannot be blocked ,prevented or handled. the audience might be out of topic if he say the pushing technic is fake.

[@weaponman3872]

Would love to see Tai chi evolve into a more competitive sport, look at combat karate and combat jiujitsu , I think taichi could do something similar!! This channel is great!!!

[@jimmybovver8768]

IT has always been great. It's certain pretenders that spoil its cred