Fighting for Freedom: The Weapons and Strategies of the 1811 Slave Revolt (feat. InRangeTV)

I highly recommend visiting the 1811 Kid Ory Historic House during your next trip to the New Orleans area! www.1811kidory...
Karl from ‪@InrangeTv‬ was recently in town, and we visited the plantation house where the 1811 Slave Revolt began. In this video, we examine the uprising primarily from a military perspective, discussing the weaponry the enslaved army used, the tactics they employed, and the likelihood of the rebels' long-term success if their battle with the local planter militia had gone a little bit differently.
The 1811 Revolt, despite being the largest rebellion of enslaved people in American history, has not been the subject of much scholarship, and in many ways is still poorly understood. Regardless, we were surprised how much our visit forced us to rethink the conventional historical narrative. In Karl's companion video, we discuss alternative perspectives of the revolt and speculate about what truths may have been lost to history. Watch Karl's video here: • 1811 Slave Revolt - An...
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~FURTHER READING/VIEWING~
Daniel Rasmussen. American Uprising: The Untold Story of America's Largest Slave Revolt (2011). Harper Perennial
"Freedom or Death: The Louisiana Slave Revolt of 1811" (2019). Atun-Shei Films • Freedom or Death: The ...
"Creoles, Kaintucks, and the Culture War of Early New Orleans" (2020). Atun-Shei Films • Creoles, Kaintucks, an...

[@AtunSheiFilms]

Be sure to check out Karl's companion video over on InRangeTV: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2jWpoCMoM2qqa8

[@The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger]

I was not expecting this crossover but welcome it none the less. Idea for future video: I would like to hear your take of the mini series of The Good Lord Bird as a film enthusiast and dabbler of history

[@SMWegge]

more importantly, where do i get Karl's shirt?

[@thehandoftheking3314]

Its interesting to think what the war of 1812 would have been like with a free slave state in the south of the USA. Would the war even happen? Would Britain land an expeditionary force in that state to threaten the south US?

[@octavianpopescu4776]

@@thehandoftheking3314 I don't think so and I don't think any foreign European recognition would have had any effect on the fate of a black state. France and Britain at the time were engaged in the Napoleonic Wars. In selling Louisiana to the US, Napoleon had in effect ended French presence in North America, at least not on a large scale. The British were busy fighting against Napoleon, financing coalition after coalition on the continent trying to stop Napoleon. While both France and Britain or even Spain (with its own Peninsular War) could be sympathetic to this new state... They all had big issues at home to deal with. I think the rebellion was doomed from the start, with or without European sympathy. The War of 1812 started out of a... coincidence more than anything, neither of the sides desired it or planned for it. So, I think it would still have happened with the same outcome, maybe with a few different details.

[@warrenokuma7264]

I wonder if the local African-American families in that area have some relics or oral histories? I think they stole guns from that house and killed some of the militia. Might want to check the archives and old newspapers of that time.

[@iammrbeat]

I was surprised by the dog, too.

[@crusader318]

I know I was like wtf does that have to do with anything

[@siralex8782]

Hey man

[@mosterchife6045]

What the dog doin’?

[@JidoKashi]

Oh my! THREE of my favorite KZbinrs crossing over!

[@charlottejones934]

Shirley checks the perimeter for rabbits and snacks, pro-bono!

[@cleothehermetichermeticist8391]

“You’re very scholarly.” Atun-Shei: *Immediately makes a dick joke* That’s why we love you Andrew, never change.

[@MollymaukT]

Atun-Shei's name is Andrew?!

[@machinist7230]

@@MollymaukT Yup.

[@danni3908]

@@machinist7230 what about his last name, social security number, credit card number and the 3 numbers on the back.

[@vaclav_fejt]

@@danni3908 and his mother's maiden name.

[@miguelservetus9534]

Some might argue that it diminishes the great value of the video. That it is juvenile. Some might say that.

[@StefanMilo]

I had never heard of this revolt before. Once again Atun-Shei’s firm videos blew my horizons wide open.

[@thumper8684]

This was an eye opener for me. I (from UK) only learned about the Haitian revolution from Mike Duncan. How well known is that in America.

[@rexfordmorgan7552]

The erect nature of his prose really makes my mind fertile and vivid.

[@jandrashriker5861]

He made a video on this I think 2 years ago. It was narrated in a pretty dramatic fashion but that Louisiana Slave Revolt was a through and through banger. It is probably one of the most "History of the People" moment.

[@safetyshotgun308]

Atun-Shei, InRangeTV, and yourself Stefan have made access to history and events for an unbiased, more realistic view of how things came to be.

[@hayleyversailles6946]

Same, just went back and watched the other video on it. Been to the spot where all those people were murdered so many times and never knew it's bloody history.

[@John.VanSwearingen]

The History Channel died so this crossover could live.

[@5thnovemberscrivener634]

A worthy sacrifice, indeed.

[@willywonka7812]

The History Channel died because Capitalism can't exploit a learned underclass

[@5thnovemberscrivener634]

@@DopaminedotSeek3rcolonthree lol, we got more than what we paid for, type scenerio.

[@TrialByDance]

The Hitler Channel*

[@petrsalavec6541]

@@willywonka7812 Lmao, okay buddy.

[@brettthechez]

1:12 "But I think we were both surprised about what we found" I would be surprised too if I saw a 150 year old dog

[@dansmart3182]

He must be a very good boy.

[@DenianWriter]

what the dog doin

[@charlottejones934]

This comment brings me joy. Shirley is looking good for 150! But for real, she's 13 and the best dog. :-)

[@justanamericandoggo6725]

brother

[@cursedhfy3558]

They better have pet that dog, seriously look at the love in it's eyes.

[@TheMuckrakers1900]

American revolutionary reenacter here, I'd like to remark that with considerable practice you can reliably get 3-4 shots a mintue with a flintlock which I'm sure the revolting slaves didn't even get close to. Between the adrenaline, fear, lack of practice, and humidity fouling the blackpowder it must have been horrible trying to match the rate of fire of the militias. I've clocked off 5 shots in a minute before but in my rush i cut my fingers on the flint several times. I can imagine this would've happened to the slaves rushing to get loaded and end up impeding their efforts. Heroic though, would've been slick if they pulled it off.

[@AtunSheiFilms]

5 shots in a minute! That's impressive!

[@TheMuckrakers1900]

@@AtunSheiFilms Trust me it's difficult and painful. 0/10 would not recommend

[@thehandoftheking3314]

@@TheMuckrakers1900 I've only just managed 4 once. But that was like 59.999999999999 seconds....

[@TheMuckrakers1900]

@@thehandoftheking3314 the secret is to hold the ram rod in the same hand holding the musket. Don't put the ram rod back you're just wasting time 😉

[@johnsmead5096]

is tap loading a practical technique? something about banging a primed even half-cocked lock just feels counter-intuitive

[@HistorywithCy]

It's interesting, my friend recently moved into an old house in eastern PA and to his surprise when he was going through the attic, found what turned out to be a 1790s musket and a rapier that the previous owner had left behind. As you guys pointed out, pretty inaccurate but man, what a beautiful weapon. Again, you have exposed us to a different side of history most of us (myself included) would normally have missed...thank you!

[@bulletclub3320]

You two are my favorite KZbinrs, the Collab video was awesome, hopefully more to come!

[@Baseballnfj]

What do you mean 'left behind'? You mean he moved out and just left a 1790's musket in the attic? Even if he was 85 with Alzheimers you'd think you would remember that.

[@noahnoah2747]

@@Baseballnfj not if it's in the attic you wouldn't

[@cdubsoptional7849]

My buddy found an old double barrel over and under .22 derringer hidden in the walls of a garage he helped demolish. Wonder how many notches that little murder piece picked up. It's meant to be put directly against someone's head and fired, and it's clearly a working class, no frills piece of equipment.

[@damnedyankee946]

@@Baseballnfj Perhaps those who left felt the gun etc belonged in the house! I found old things in a house we had. Left sleigh bells and Degaro type ( misspelling) I left them in the wall along with a flier for " Harry Browne's Far Hempfest 1998! 😂😁 for the next person to find!

[@jandrashriker5861]

That older video of Louisiana Slave Revolt was so intense and emotionally charged. I still think about it every now and then. That one particularly video affected my point of view a lot considering I am not even an American.

[@AtunSheiFilms]

High praise, thank you.

[@wizardpig02]

That video was the first one that lead me to Atun-Shei and I absolutely loved it. And have watched everything else which has either maintained or surpassed in quality

[@PobortzaPl]

Atun Shei being worried if Karl comes back from his fast trip to Arizona is even nicer touch than his reaction to Karl using word "firm" ("erect", "rigid").

[@captainahab1533]

I have so much respect for the courage of these rebels… I can’t even closely imagine how this must have felt like and what these people had to go through before they finally rose against their enslavers

[@larrylindgren215]

It was very brave but if I was put in that situation I would be with the other 3% that didn’t join the rebellion

[@bickyboo7789]

@@larrylindgren215 I wonder if that 3% got rewarded or punished.

[@larrylindgren215]

@@bickyboo7789 Better than being dead Just need to wait a couple more years and I’m free

[@paulcruz168]

@@ElectronFieldPulse it can't be justified but it can be explained and understood.

[@jagmannenarbrand8373]

@@ElectronFieldPulse You’d be surprised how many conflicts (even on sides you agree with) have soldiers kill children. It’s pretty common. Just that the winning side gets to have it not really mentioned.

[@rangergxi]

In Brazil escaped slaves set up independent Kingdoms called Quilombos in the jungle. Unfortunately, a "Black Republic of the Mississipi" could easily be forgotten just like these Quilombo.

[@MarvinCZ]

There is a difference between declaring your kingdom in the middle of the jungle and conquering the trade center of the south and declaring your kingdom there. One of those is much harder to miss.

[@johnmccusker6927]

There were "maroon" colonies in the swamps in Louisiana much like the cimarroon societies in South America

[@iceman5117]

Seneca Village was a large settlement of former slaves in New York City, where central park is now. The bastard mayor Fernando Wood razed it all to make way for central park

[@chrisbonin2174]

That's one of the reasons we wanted Florida. Slaves from Georgia and thereabouts found refuge in Spanish territory.

[@thursoberwick1948]

Haiti is the prime example of this. Sadly Haiti has a terrible history (for various reasons) and is also Earthquake Central.

[@vincentmusic09]

I woke up, I saw an Atun-Shei Films Upload. Today is a good day

[@pauly260]

According to the warrior-poet O’Shea Jackson, if I can cover the time it takes the earth to make one complete rotation without using a Russian designed assault rifle in my possession, then today was a good day.

[@therealSunTzu]

@@pauly260 well i guess every day i had was a good day because i used the serbian design

[@exquisitecorpse4917]

This is something we rarely talk about in US history: Many slaves fought for their freedom, sometimes secretly, sometimes politically, sometimes violently. From runaway children to Dred Scott to armed revolutionaries, the vast majority were crushed without mercy. To say that slavery might have ended without something so terrible as the American Civil War is to ignore the fact that many people had tried to end slavery beforehand, many had died for it, and none had even come close.

[@FPSIreland2]

“They fought to free the bonded man, Full bitter was their fate, Oh! What glorious pride and sorrow fills the name of that great day? Yet thank god their hearts still burn and beat in manhoods burning noon, For we’ll follow in their footsteps at the rising of the moon.”

[@hexa3389]

By who?

[@themanhimself1229]

@@hexa3389 I think that's Rising of the Moon, it's an ancient (Although somewhat modern by Irish standards, 1860s) Irish rising song. I don't quite recall those lyrics, It may be from the original poem or something else entirely.

[@goodlookingcorpse]

@@themanhimself1229 A song about a failed rebellion, written to encourage people to join in another rebellion, which also failed. Irish history up to the 20th century, everyone!

[@themanhimself1229]

@@goodlookingcorpse As I recall, 98 is a rising not a rebelion. But aye, that's how it's gone for a long time now. But at least She's free now. 26/32, anyways.

[@grmpEqweer]

@@goodlookingcorpse I understand if you Google "Irish national anthem," the third hit is "Come out ye Black and Tans."

[@seff6533]

I'd love to see a John brown video from you

[@rfkwouldvebeenaok1008]

JOHN BROWN'S BODY LIES MOLDERING IN THE GRAVE!

[@kayvan671]

@@rfkwouldvebeenaok1008 What happens when you sing it in the South?

[@rfkwouldvebeenaok1008]

@@kayvan671 Neo confederates start to spontaneously combust from Sherman's spirit rising from the grave.

[@mr.c1913]

He's been mention in Checkmate Lincolnite a few times I think

[@seff6533]

@@mr.c1913 a whole video would be cool though

[@Void7.4.14]

May no oppressor know peace as long as people aren't free.

[@orinjackson975]

Something not mentioned is that it’s unlikely many of the rebels would’ve even seen a firearm loaded and fired. No movies, weren’t allowed firearms, werent even allowed to read….. Today any kid that grew up watching shitty action movies has at least a remedial knowledge of the basic operations of a firearm. It’s reminds me of the scene in Centennial when the trapper gives a rifle to a native chief and as soon as he leaves to native uses it as a club and breaks the stock.

[@nathanrandall7003]

Not necessarily. One of the things not covered here is that a rather significant number of the slaves who revolted, especially the drivers of revolutionary ideals - two men known as Kook and Kwamana - had, in their former lives, been warriors quite proficient and experienced in fighting not only each other but also colonial forces. While they may not have been traditionally trained in the European sense, they were experienced guerilla fighters and more than you might think could have had direct experience with contemporary firearms. One of the consequences of this revolt, in fact, was a shift away from importation of slaves directly from Africa and toward breeding local stock specifically to avoid ending up with experienced and angry warriors in the fields. Information taken from "American Uprising: the Untold Story of America's Largest Slave Revolt" Daniel Rasmussen (I can't find a print or copyright date in the book)

[@orinjackson975]

@@nathanrandall7003 great info. I have to say my statement still stands. It takes a significant amount of time for that sort of knowledge to spread amongst a group. Something the rebels had in very short supply.

[@johnyarbrough502]

I'd say possibly and maybe even likely that some of the rebels had experience with fire arms. It wasn't unusual fr plantation owners to use one or two men as hunters while carefully regulating access to weapons and ammunition. Guns were an important trade item for Europeans in West Africa where they played a part in the warfare to get the captives that fed the slave trade. Some of the rebels might have had prior experience using muskets. Empire of Guns: the violent making of the industrial Revolution by Priya Satia, touches on the trade though her focus is mainly on the gun makers.

[@felipedaiber2991]

I dont think so. Many of the slaves revolting were either recently brought tribal warriors who knew the basics of firearm operatior or were slaves for sugar cane wich doesnt meant they had knowledge of firearma but that they were extremely skilled at using bladed weapons

[@TheXenonStudios]

@@nathanrandall7003 The deliberate (and effective) suppression of the Atlantic slave trade by the Royal Navy and other powers probably had a greater impact on shifting away from importing slaves from Africa.

[@jacobprice2579]

Apologists: iF sLAverY wAs soO bad, then Y diDn’t theY rEBel?! Literally everyone else in the world: They did… like… all the time.

[@grmpEqweer]

Drapetomania: the "disorder" of an enslaved person trying to get the h€ll away from the person who was exploiting them.

[@innitbruv-lascocomics9910]

@@ElectronFieldPulse Completely Agree

[@charleswatts3810]

@jacobprice2579 Why didn't who rebel?

[@MrEKWesq]

Re: firepower, even regular soldiers weren't necessary proficient with their firelocks. For example, according to the recollections of one rebel participant in the storming of Fort Washington (1776) the two British battalions he was facing "halted and began to fire on us at not more than eighty yards distance. Their whole battalion on the right of the colors were ordered to fire at once. I heard the words 'Battalion, make ready!'; and, as few as we were (notwithstanding their boasted discipline), when the word was given and they came to a 'recover' to cock their muskets, a considerable number went off and were fired in the air. When the word PRESENT was given (which means 'take aim'), they fired, along the battalion as if it were a feu de joie; and when the word FIRE was given, there was but few pieces to fire. The battalion on the left of the colors fired much better than [that on] the right; but I do not recollect of my attending any more of their manner of firing, though it was very brisk for a few rounds. But at least 99 shot out of 100 went a considerable distance over our heads ... While we were here engaged with the enemy I saw [Lieutenant] Colonel [Thomas] Bull ... ride within fifty or sixty yards of the British along their whole front when they were firing briskly, as I supposed to show and demonstrate to the men ... that there was not so much danger as they might apprehend."

[@gluesniffingdude]

But also consider that the paltry Continentals of 1776 had largely not even seen service for a full year, and that they didn't have the gunpowder or ammunition to really train. By 1811, the situation had undoubtedly improved.

[@1337billybob]

Well he said "well regulated" 10:25 which as any modern constitutionalist would interpret to mean that everyone had access to the automatic belt fed version of the weapon at the time.

[@MrEKWesq]

@@gluesniffingdude The quote is describing British regulars (likely the two battalions of the 42nd Regiment).

[@davidgiacomini9250]

@Ewan Wardle I’d love to know the source of that quote. Would really like to read more primary sources about the New York campaign.

[@MrEKWesq]

@@davidgiacomini9250 No problem. It's taken from "Memoirs of the Life of John Adlum in the Revolutionary War," edited by H. H. Peckham (Chicago: Caxton Club, 1968). This quote can be found on pp. 68-69.

[@cannonkoester9990]

I am so glad I stayed up tonight. Atun-Shei and In Range are two of my favorite channels. Between you two, I know more real US history than I was taught through all of my bachelors education.

[@iainhansen1047]

Anybody who says history is boring needs to watch this channel

[@AtunSheiFilms]

[@MrZauberelefant]

@@AtunSheiFilms You're really one of a kind. The unique mix between cinema and history is fantastic - and each of the two is really good on its own!

[@Tayl0r_]

I love how you two are like the historian-variant of the Mythbusters lmao. You guys look the part too! Thanks for the upload!☺️

[@Darkstar1484]

Except I imagine that they get along much better off camera.

[@Tayl0r_]

@@Darkstar1484 much MUCH better lol

[@legateelizabeth]

It's crazy how different Atun looks in a sleeveless vest and baseball cap compared to when he's in a suit or similar. Clothes really do maketh the man.

[@andygossard4293]

Klaus agrees.

[@boomanchu2]

Have you looked in his closet? A surprise for party guests.

[@AthosJosue]

He looks incredible in his uniforms, like a true historically accurate heroic soldier.

[@gregorykrajeski6255]

Atun-Shei posted? I'm going to go ahead and proactively hit the like button.

[@diegorincon4673]

Good choice

[@corwin32]

I went through college, and I never heard of this event. Were it not for you two, I would never have known it occurred.

[@Vanya2893]

the idea that enslaved people in the south were docile and willing participants, or at least too lazy to rise up, is a big part of American mythology and events like this are pretty much intentionally suppressed

[@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat]

The American Historical Association (which is the closest thing America has to something guiding university history curricula) deliberately de-emphasizes teaching specific historical events in favor of teaching the skills of a historian. There are definitely benefits to this approach, generally I would argue in favor of it, but there are downsides as well. If you're wondering, American k-12 take the opposite approach to history, deliberately de-emphasizing all skills and lessons on the subject of history in favor of essentially just having students memorize a list of facts with little real context or reason for why students need to know them.

[@innitbruv-lascocomics9910]

@@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat The American Education System seems to like to operate in polarizing ends instead of a nice nuanced middle, I noticed

[@DtrainTheGreat]

Really appreciate saying "enslaved people" instead of what's often used. Great touch of awareness there.

[@wilsoncalhoun]

It's so weird seeing Karl out of the desert, and specifically not at a split wood table beneath a mesquite tree. Also it's pretty awesome that y'all cover stories like this. People tend to just pay attention to the high points of history-- like there were slaves, then Lincoln gave a speech and Matthew Broderick died in the civil war while the Mississippi Mass Choir sang an old spiritual and then everybody lived happily ever after-- while ignoring the ugly, mean parts that give those highpoints relevance.

[@louthegiantcookie]

You have swiftly become one of my favourite historical KZbinrs. America has such an interesting catalogue of stories, and I enjoy hearing your take on that history. But enough about Johnny Reb...

[@josephpolizzi_5759]

Hey Atun-Shei, I have a very werid idea for a video but a subject that I feel like you would handle best. Not long ago I discovered that there are people who actually believe that dinosaurs were shot and killed in the civil war with even some soldiers taking pictures with these deceased creatures. Obviously it’s a hoax but there are those kinda people who do believe that these are real and I think it would be an interesting topic for a vid. Thanks for the amazing content.

[@MarvinCZ]

These are great videos. I'm coming over from InRangeTV but I watched this video first and then the other second, that felt like the natural progression. As a non-American I knew just about the name of the event, not much more. I'm watching your 2019 video now...

[@corwin32]

As an American who went to high school just next door in Texas, I hadn’t even heard of it.

[@motorcitymangababe]

@@corwin32 same, but tbh i got a very lost cause style education on slavery until i moved up north

[@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat]

@@corwin32 same, I was in Texas too but my history education was a bit odd, most of my history was taught by coaches who didn't really care about history and the good teachers were generally on world history.

[@shannsimms9072]

I could sit and watch these guys talk forever

[@Mike-im5bo]

Hitting with a single ball from a smoothbore musket is difficult, no doubt, maybe that is why the U.S. Army went over to the buck & ball cartridge. Buck and ball was one musket ball and three sub-caliber balls, which were fired at once, improving the chance of hitting a target.

[@mathieushifera135]

Was this before or after Minie balls?

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

@@mathieushifera135 definitely before as the projectile after the model of Monsieur Minié was a ball for RIFLED muskets. Meaning that when it was in use during the Civil war the armies mostly had transitioned away from the Smoothbore as Carl showed in Arizona to fully rifled guns. Which also meant higher aiming accuracy (and muzzle velocity) Also most of those were already percussion cap guns, so you saved half the loading steps as you did no longer have to prime your pan with additional powder, but simply put the small cap on the nipple where it would ignite the powder load. If you could not get your hands ON a rifled/Minie musket though...

[@Baseballnfj]

This is fantastic. It's really about time we learn about this very real part of US military history. I'd definitely classify these revolts as such. I realized upon reading the title that despite being able to name every brigade commander on both sides at Gettysburg I can't tell anyone anything about the major slave revolts. I just was never taught it... and I studied at a school in Charleston SC which was just miles from the site of the beginning of the Stono Rebellion. The only thing there is a faded state historical roadside marker. I used to drive out there, both to see that and the site of the revolutionary war minor engagement, of which there is nothing marking the site. I never saw another person and we are talking about one of the most important slave rebellions in American history. Anyway... thanks for doing these and bringing more attention to this chronically neglected part of US history.

[@catriona_drummond]

Planters: our slaves revolted, we had to shoot them! Government: it's fine, we'll bail you out. Amazon: History is a fascinating subject....

[@MravacKid]

"Technical issues with the farm machinery, covered under warranty"

[@rring44]

They also bailed out the Slave owning class after the civil war. Guess who they didn't bail out.

[@deadmeme8011]

@@rring44 What's worse is, many slaves actually were given land after the Civil War, only to have it systemically stolen by southern banks.

[@themanhimself1229]

Cronyism is the Government's and the Elite's favorite thing.

[@austindeming5206]

@@MravacKid hood

[@themostokaypersonever84]

A collab between 2 of my favorite KZbinrs? Hell ya!

[@tylercross8877]

I love how Atun-shei trolls even when he is teaching us real history

[@williamstratton3126]

The crossover I wasn't expecting but am absolutely living for

[@jeanhartely]

On a tangent, Kid Ory blew one helluva trombone. Played with Louis Armstrong, Red Allen, Johnny Dodds. He was one of the greats of New Orleans jazz.

[@jasonkraus2831]

To put in context - the Whiskey Rebellion was put down in 1794 - 17 years before this. If this 'caught fire' they would have absolutely marched the military on this movement. Madison (president at the time) came directly from the Virginia planter class. I'm not certain that this movement becoming wider would have brought abolitionists to their side sooner as you contend. I think this movement, had it gotten wider, plus the revolt in Haiti would have pitted Americans against enslaved peoples even more as an "Us vs. Them" situation, further entrenching the view that oppression was the only way to "ensure the safety of our way of life". As always with your channel - outstanding content, great information, and a true desire to find as much of the truth as can be found. Loved it! Keep it up.

[@VL1975]

I love that you've reframed and defined the "well regulated" militia concept of 2A. A well regulated militia is a well trained not "regulated" by the government. The modern political sphere think it has to do with how it's controlled by laws. I see the "well regulated" in a new light. Fascinating story of the slave revolt. Never heard of it.

[@pmgn8444]

Great video guys! A much needed spotlight on forgotten history.

[@JellothePallascat]

It’s history that deserves to be remembered - THG

[@JETZcorp]

Just popping back in to remind everyone how cool it is to see a collab between these two channels. The crossover we never knew we needed.

[@NOPEFROG]

This is the weirdest crossover ever I love it. Had no idea you'd collabed with Karl, great to see it.

[@wh8787]

These collaborations are some of my favourite videos. Fascinating stuff.

[@JellothePallascat]

So when are you doing the range with Ian and Karl with civil war guns?

[@samsowden]

Billy Yank and Johnny Reb competing in a match would be excellent!

[@nandayane]

Desert Brutality: Civil War

[@thechief043]

I appreciate Atun-Shei and Karl covering a topic I've never heard of.

[@colbunkmust]

In a slightly related comparison, the Zulu Impi captured a number of Martini-Henry rifles at Isandlwana and used them at Rorkes Drift to minimal success probably due to the lack of training and fire discipline.

[@coala2001]

the most badass crossover ever since Castle Itter battle

[@robertnett9793]

Well... without getting 3 shots a minute - you never will become a chosen man.

[@bmyers7078]

Robert Nett: 3 shots a minute !? The South Essex can manage two on a good day !

[@509Gman]

Now that’s soldiering

[@greysson2933]

@@509Gman Now that's meme-ing

[@chriscarlone527]

History Tube! Mark Felton Productions, TimeGhost, Atun-Shei Films, Tik, the list goes on. Thank you so much for what you do. History is undervalued in modern U.S. culture. If only the History channel were still centered on the facts!

[@TSmith-yy3cc]

Hey producers, this is how you make worthwhile historical material with passionate, knowledgeable hosts and crews. They're out there already doing fantastic work; throw them money and resources to do their thing and everyone will reap the benefits.

[@commandZee]

Great pair of videos! Thanks!

[@Semper_Iratus]

Good to see you both producing content.

[@samneary1552]

If you still want to make civil war videos and/or continue bringing forgotten history to light, consider making a video on the Pratt Street riots. The first deaths of the civil war.

[@Pantsinabucket]

15:00 I’d also suggest that a big point in their failure to use firearms properly was not only a lack of training, but a whole lack of concept on how to use firearms of the period in contemporary warfare. This generation of enslaved people had not seen war in the south since the revolution, many of them never seeing European-style line warfare in action, leaving them without any real instruction on how to use these weapons.

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Wait IS THAT…IT IS! Wonderful crossover!

[@Burlak4]

Real well-regulated video there ;)

[@michaelgrubber1135]

Easily my favorite channel I've found this year

[@thehowlinggamer5784]

I love it when you upload a new episode. I consider myself a bit of a history buff, mostly on the Civil War and ww2 having watched numerous historical movies, documentaries and read a lot of books on the matter... But I feel like even I learn something new with every one of your videos.

[@mercAltiar]

Now this is a straight to DVD crossover I can get behind.

[@bentoth9555]

"We were both very surprised by what we found." The dog right? You weren't expecting that good puppers?

[@murphylhunn]

Why is it so hard to find friends like you guys

[@heymotivator2231]

This is the kind of surprising crossover fan fiction I live for. So happy these two are brolaborating with each other. Two of my favorite creators!

[@pamelaoliver8442]

I just had to go back and watch the 2019 video. I need a minute before I dive back in here. I'm just sick and sad right now.

[@grapeshot]

Yeah there's the stereotype about the docile submissive slave, that wasn't always the case.

[@sethmiller2532]

And there's also the aspect of people deliberately trying to suppress stories like this to keep that stereotype in place.

[@ethanmcfarland8240]

“We shall be free or die trying”

[@pauloneil8531]

@@ethanmcfarland8240 While I agree that the idea of submissive slaves needs to be corrected, keep in mind however, as pointed out in the video, 75% of the enslaved did not join in the rebellion. A case of life over death, fear is a great motivator.

[@Baseballnfj]

I went to school for history in Charleston SC and I was not taught about the Stono Rebellion of 1739 (the site of which was mere miles from my school) which was the largest slave rebellion ever in the south. However, we WERE lectured on the Denmark Vesey "affair", in which a free black man was accused of being the ring leader of a slave rebellion that never happened. This was 1822. Convicted by secret courts, they also hung close to 30 others and arrested nearly 100. I'm glad in the very least that my attention was brought to this terror because it really exposed a still open rift dating back to this event in Charleston society. They recently erected a statue to Vesey, but it took 30 years of struggle to accomplish... and the statue was only approved if it was a good distance from the tourist area. It's an interesting quality of the deep south that you can see these events from 200 years ago still very much alive.

[@johnmccusker6927]

It was a stereotype but also a generational fear among thinkers like WEB Du Bois

[@unclejoeoakland]

Good work. This brought up a lot of good points, like the role of militias and the federal government buying into the slave trade, even after the fact, in recompensing the masters for the loss of property.

[@johanrunfeldt7174]

I knew there was something great coming up when InRangeTV didn't upload for a while.

[@stevenpremmel4116]

Should have ended with a high-five and Rick Astley's "Together Forever" playing during the credits.

[@Dark_LoreVT]

First thought: More content on the 1811 slave revolt (something only learned of because of Atun-Shei! ) Second thought: CUTE DOGGO!

[@KrasMazovHatesYourGuts]

Gotta say: I freaking LOVE that crossed Broken Chain Flag and Trombone emblem they have. I'd put that on a flag and wave proudly.

[@billy101cat]

Nothing more American than calling the Charleville musket a Charlieville. Love the video! (semantics aside) Off to watch the companion on InRangeTV

[@seanmac1793]

Ian would have pronounced it right Karl doesn't give a shit

[@M.M.83-U]

Wonderfull duo, wonderfull video.

[@pnutz_2]

3:45 this is interesting regarding the image people have of those houses as Candyland or Forrest Gump's house, when many of them started out like this and were renovations on top of renovations

[@ronwood1220]

Fascinating. I only recently learned about this revolt and I seek out black history. I have heard of Nat Turner and John Brown but somehow this one got by me. Thanks for posting.

[@johnmccusker6927]

Part of that Ron was the press was not as connected in 1810. When Nat Turner and John Brown went down the telegraph was coming into use and there were many newspapers nearby. This was not the case in 1811. New Orleans was the farther flung urban area in the US then. It took 7 weeks for news to reach New York of the rebellion.

[@ironofithaka8357]

This is the best team up in history, Karl and you are my two favorite KZbinrs.

[@somwongbulipsurt7901]

"Both very surprised" 1:10 A TALKING DOG IS A CURATOR AT ONE THEM!??! Sorry, I had the strongest urge to say that after seeing the dog.

[@questionablylegalproductio2084]

11:38 "Carefully seat the ball" as he smacks it not once, but twice

[@seymoarsalvage]

If you don't compress black powder and leave a air gap, you have a handheld pipebomb

[@STRZB001]

Awesome video Atun! I learned a lot. I appreciate every video you make and I hope you never stop!

[@marksieger]

I was aware of the Haitian Revolution, and how much it scared slave owners in the States at the time. I never knew that there was an event that actually justified these fears. Thank you both for this wonderful, educational video. I hope to see more collaboration videos between you two in the future.

[@pale_lad1252]

It’s a shame the revolt failed, they got so far.

[@johnmccusker6927]

Deeper than that Mark. The population of New Orleans doubled from 1809-1810. Almost all Haitian slavers and their enslaved

[@johnmccusker6927]

The population in New Orleans doubled from 1810-1811 as a result.

[@GentlemansCombatives]

Strong crossover energy

[@sethlogee]

We need more of this and we need the Witchfinder General fire a real blunder buss at some sinners!!!🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@Mantequilla-nr8zk]

You guys are both so knowledgeable as an archaeologist in college thanks for all the info man history has always fascinated me thanks again atun

[@JeffreyDeCristofaro]

This reminds me of my homeschooled childhood in South Carolina where we actually saw some plantation sites still kept preserved for historical importance... although they tended to gloss over the more harrowing aspects of slavery. At that point in my youth, slavery was just a word; we were always reminded it was bad and inhumane, but never really had a distinct, direct and vivid image of the atrocities perpetrated in this practice. Even most of the media we watched that did cover the topic barely scratched the surface. With videos like this that take us to the actual sites and give a fuller description, Atun-Shei, you and other dedicated hardcore history buffs on KZbin do both history and humanity a great service!

[@anthonymarch532]

Thanks to Karl for introducing me to Atun-Shei Films with that Confederate Statue video.

[@kmaher1424]

Welcome depth to a neglected story. New music, too.

[@NeoKingGhidorah]

I love historical houses, you really get to meet people who care about this stuff. I went through a coastal fort in North Carolina once, and seeing the barracks was such an overwhelming experience, it's the most effective way to put yourself in a the mindset of what it must have been like to be there.

[@bravelyjake]

Just wanted to say, as much as I love the history, the "What if" being played out was really enjoyable.

[@Torus2112]

What would've happened if they'd been more successful? Two words: Black Spartacus

[@Adamdidit]

"I'm Spartacus" "I'm Spartacus" "I'm Spartacus" "See Jedediah? They all DO look alike" -1812, probably

[@hoopsmcgee8272]

Breaking News: The Texas State Legislature has just banned Atun-Shei Films from being viewed by any Texas resident. The only exception are the Johnny Reb parts from the flagship series Checkmate, Lincolnites!

[@PremeTeamTX]

Bet

[@hoopsmcgee8272]

@@PremeTeamTX Word has it, state Republicans a working on a safe way to view the Johnny Reb segments, a la the Monty Python skit about the deadliest joke in WW2. Casualties are high but Gov. Abbott vows to keep moving forward.

[@hgirresch]

Oh look a leftist

[@Huntersinthesky]

Holy cow! Karl from inRange! I am so glad I found this channel and that these two can make these videos. More please!

[@patrickjones2420]

Hell yeah!!! New videos! Time to rewatch every single video again after this one. Yes, even the tutorial for Flintlock and Tomahawk!

[@willywonka7812]

God Hates A Coward, if u want to listen to Tomahawk while getting in the mood to learn about Tomahawks

[@LauseMarkA]

Great job on this. The claim that the planters' side suffered no casualties is probably not true. The hopelessness of blacks as fighters was a standard trope, and would be reinforced by the claim that there was no serious risk in white participation in the repression of slave revolts. We see these political editing of the facts around clashes all the time. And even on the results of major wars with lots of eyes on them.

[@ThejollyFrenchman]

That seems likely to me as well. They had the government on their side, after all. Hold private funerals, label the deaths as natural causes, and who's to say what really happened? The militia aren't going to tell the truth, at least not to others, and most of the slaves are dead, and wouldn't be listened to in any case.

[@lolwutyoumad]

It is probably very true. Keep in mind that the militia were most likely veterans of the revolutionary and various Indian wars of the time while a mob of untrained slaves trying to figure out weapons they most likely never used in real time were not going to fare very well

[@MravacKid]

That's a pretty good point, I wonder why neither of them thought of it. But then again, it's quite likely that the militia's training was good enough to keep them safe from return fire from the likely small number of guns captured by the rebels, and the more accurate fire enough to make the rebels rout thus avoiding melee combat which would have certainly caused far more casualties.

[@AtunSheiFilms]

That might be true but I tend to disagree. I would think that the government/planter class would rather highlight or exaggerate white deaths, as evidence of the enslaved army's "savagery". There was definitely that 19th century idea that black men were cowed and unmanly, and therefore would be poor fighters (see the Confederate slave soldier debate). However it's not that whites believed they were incapable of violence, just that they went about it in a dishonorable or sneaky way.

[@lolwutyoumad]

@@MravacKid because at the time the militia was essentially the only military force available locally. Keep in mind that during this period, the US had a very small government and didn’t empathize holding a large standing army on a permanent basis. The local community had to rely on volunteer militia men to fend off Indian attacks and whatnot.

[@eustatic3832]

Today, this area of st John, known as "death alley" has the highest risks of cancer from the Dow plants, the plastic manufacturing and the chloroprene manufacturing facilities. Dow sold the chloroprene plant to Denka to avoid compensating residents for illnesses like cancer and childhood leukemia. The United States has still looked the other way from this modern struggle for freedom, although there is some hope from the new administration....

[@cellavb447]

Awesome video! Your two styles mesh very well. Big Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman vibes!

[@mr.c1913]

Considering the recent developments around education in Texas, videos like this are more important than ever. Great spotlight on a bit of American history I'd never heard until the past year.

[@onecertainesquire486]

Thanks for this really interesting look into the history of such an amazing event! Out of interest, why was it that slave revolts in French/Francophone colonies tended to be more successful? Was it due to the high volume of free men of colour?

[@HomoChomsky]

This is a very interesting question.

[@soso-zz9qf]

I don’t think I can agree with the statement that the slave revolts were more successful in French territories. The Haitian revolution was the only successful slave revolt in the Americas in the history of the Atlantic slave trade. There were many factors at play that lead to the successful revolution. 1.French Hispaniola had one of the largest slave populations on earth and a very very small small white population, both in terms of absolute population and when compared to the slave population. 2. It was VERY far removed from any large French population centers. By the time of the revolt France had lost influence over modern day US and Canada and lost many of its key colonies throughout the Americas. Yes technically they had the Louisiana territory but outside of the modern day state of LA it was NOT populated with French loyalists therefore had no population to mobilize or to exert regional influence. 3.Importantly the revolt took place during a time when France was embroiled in multiple revolutions, huge social upheaval, and multiple wars each one considered the largest in history up until that point. This is a HUGE point that’s often missed. Yes French Hispaniola was the most important economic center of France, but given the circumstances it was not a priority. When the monarchy was abolished in France there were multiple calls taken seriously by the new government for the emancipation for enslaved peoples. Iirc slavery was actually abolished during this time. This helped spur and inspire the revolution in Haiti. However when Napoleon took control he chose a very strong pro slavery policy (not surprising at all lol) to go along with his aspirations for the glory days of the French colonial empire of old. But by the time he sent reinforcement to Haiti the island was already out of French control. Iirc this had a huge influence on him and he abandoned his aspirations for a new global French empire, instead limiting his focus to continental Europe. This massively influenced his decision to sell the Louisiana territory. Also an important thing to keep in mind on this point was that Spain was in absolute shambles at the time, with many (albeit upper class and white) revolts throughout their colonies. This was due to the Peninsular war which was raging throughout Iberia at the time. 4. When it was clear France lost control of Hispaniola, they chose economic slavery over chattel slavery. They forced Haiti to pay reparations (the “reduced” 1834 (or ‘38 i can’t remember haha) total amounts to about 21 billion dollars in 2004 USD if Wikipedia is to be believed) which Haiti repaid over 30 years. They along with many colonial powers embargoed the new nation, and they set up huge blocks against any sort of Haitian economic development. Haiti was erased from the history of colonialism, and deliberately painted as a “failure” without any regards to its history. To put it mildly they ground Haiti into the ground. This is by far the worst thing that happened during the revolution. It got so bad that eventually the newly victorious government had to force newly emancipated people back into the sugar plantations they were just liberated from. Can you imagine the toll this took on the Haitian psyche? I can’t and I’m black. Sure the revolt was undoubtedly a huge victory for the enslaved peoples of Haiti but their descendants still suffer today because of French economic terrorism. Now to the German Coast revolt: Louisiana is a settler-colonial colony. This means there were large(ish) populations and a stronger presence of the central government. France never really invested in settler colonies as the Caribbean method of working enslaved peoples to death (Hispaniola had one of the highest mortality rates for enslaved peoples) and buying new ones was MUUUCCHHH more profitable than “investing” (read: forcing a few slaves to reproduce) in them like settler colonial colonies did. And finally, the vast majority of slave revolts in French colonies were brutally crushed and deliberately forgotten. This is common throughout the history of slavery, not just chattel slavery but throughout the history of slavery. It never looks good when your power is questioned, better to forget it ever happened lest it inspire new revolts. Just focusing on the Atlantic slave trade there were many many more slave revolts throughout the world not only in French colonies but also English, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, etc… colonies. Some reached the scale of the Haitian revolution, most died when slavers brutally repressed them. We don’t know about these because they were deliberately forgotten. The sad fact is that the vast majority of slave revolts regardless of the nation subjugating the peoples ended in abject failure. France is no exception to this.

[@cdubsoptional7849]

Sometimes you find gold buried in the comments. My favourite class I took in college was on Afro-Caribbean Religions, and my professor was from Haiti. He was part of the Syrian/Lebanese-Haitian community. That alone, him being a very light skinned, Arab from Haiti, was very helpful in terms of my growth as an adult, capable of grasping the staggering complexity of the world. Anyway, thanks for sharing your take, and can you recommend any books about Haitian history that really stand out?

[@soso-zz9qf]

@@cdubsoptional7849 wow that must have been fascinating! I’m really not a historian, I’m just repeating what I’ve learned in class. I can recommend a very good documentary though “Égalité for All: Toussaint Louverture and the Haitian Revolution”. It’s a bit overdramatized but hey it’s a live action PBS doc. I’m glad you liked my take :)

[@cdubsoptional7849]

@@soso-zz9qf check out Divine Horsemen by Maya Deren. This is one of the essential texts

[@cozycherry1790]

Can we just...bring back beards regularly or "Whiskers". Thanks.

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

As they said in Starship Troopers, “I’m doing my part!”

[@nimrodthewise836]

You're free to do with your face as you like...

[@mathieushifera135]

You can always grow them: they're just very demanding in terms of maintenance (both time and money) if you want nice beards/whiskers.

[@cozycherry1790]

@@mathieushifera135 Im just talking genrally dude. Like seriously, people in the 1800's have amazing styles of whiskers! Some good examples may be Rutherford B Hayes, James Garfield and Abraham Lincoln.

[@ChrisCaramia]

@@cozycherry1790 Chester A. Arthur as well.

[@Full_Otto_Bismarck]

I just can't express how much I love seeing you two collaborating on projects.

[@simplymadness8849]

Could listen to you guys talk history for hours.