Figuring Out The Combination To Antique Safe

[@ryangks]

"This is the lockpicking lawyer"

[@katherinekinnaird4408]

My late husband worked as a locksmith. I helped him use various systems to open various safes. Some old , some new but all interesting . Thanks for sharing. I enjoy engaging in conversations and the like that bring the memory of my late husband to life. It will make a great conversation of peace in your home.

[@MrTruckerf]

He must have been very appreciative of a spouse who was able and willing to assist him. Most women know little of their husband's commercial endeavors.

[@BigTex347]

Yesterday I was at a flee market and I bought an antique Cary Safe ($75.00), Patented September 16, 1890. It was in rough shape, rusty, and the door was open because someone had engaged the lock mechanism - the pistons were extended - therefore, the door would not close. The seller said that no one knows the combination and the door has been open for about 50-70 years. The safe weighs about 400 pounds. I brought it home - got on KZbin and found your video - and using your technique, I had the lock working in about 2 hours. The combination is RT x 4 turns 87, LT X 2.5 turns 26, RT x 1.5 turns 19, LT 58. Thank you so much for posting this video!!!!!! By the way, Before today, I knew absolutely Zero about old safe locks - now I think I could open any antique combination safe lock. Thanks again.

[@nashguy207]

And he is also a safecracker!

[@SuperZytoon]

What a unique find! It’s in incredible shape for being an antique. I know you must have been thrilled to come across such a quality piece.

[@aidand1428]

If it was locked you would have to call the lock pickinglawyer

[@mc-sp8zr]

I honestly thought this was one of his videos from the thumbnail until I clicked and realized what channel it was.

[@eonsinfinity534]

Yeah, i was surprised when the video didnt start with this is the lockpicking lawyer and today i have...

[@rosemarymagrino772]

That’s what I was thinking!

[@MrTruckerf]

Ha! These are unpickable. The pros back in the day used 'soap' (nitroglycerine)

[@DAquingil]

Great video, and your safe is a beauty. I’ve been looking for one about that size, as it’s heavy, but manageable because it’s not too big. Now after watching your technique. I feel as if I can get a good deal on one that hasn’t got the combination. An antique dealer in my neighborhood sold a locked safe very cheap, and the buyer had a locksmith open it. It had over $15,000.00 in gold inside. The dealer still hasn’t gotten over it.

[@72polara]

Cool old safe! I have to take the panels off my safes and see if I can change the combination on one to match the other. On a side not, many years ago I had a little job driving a truck from the Mare Island Naval Shipyard to a locksmith in Napa with three safes from the Provost Marshall's Office that were bought at auction. The locksmith was so impressed with getting to work on these high security locks that he had only read about, he didn't even charge us for the combination change. Safe cracking and lock picking are fun hobbies.

[@simonbowes6663]

Victor Safe & Lock Company started in business in 1885 in Cincinnati, OH. They continued in business until they were acquired by Remington-Rand (Rand Kardex) in 1927 and the facility moved to Marrietta, OH. The name was also changed at the time of the acquistion to the "Victor Safe & Equipment Company". Remington-Rand also had a facility in N. Tonawanda, NY that was making office equipment under the Victor label. In 1956 when Remington-Rand was acquired by the Sperry Corporation. The safe making division was discontinued. Sperry did continue the fire resistive file cabinet and office equipment division, using the Victor logo, until this was finally sold off in 1987. A company named "Turn-10 Wholesale" acquired the logo and trademark at this time. Turn-10 is still manufacturing a small line of equipment using the Victor logo, though they don't actually make the equipment. Fire files are made for them by companies like FireKing International - only they have the Victor logo instead of the FireKing logo. In April of 1895, Victor Safe & Lock Company registered the "VICTOR IN HOC SIGNO VINCIMUS 1885", logo as a "trademark". The trade mark serial number is 700265528. The current status of the trademark is "EXPIRED". This trademark translates as: "In Hoc Signo Vincimus" = "In this sign we conquer".

[@wallingj68]

"This is the drain cleaning hero, and what I have for you today is a 1910 Victor safe."

[@eonsinfinity534]

Now im gonna show you some inexplicable design flaws that thankfully have been improved in later models, but for its time, it was a really great safe.

[@buggydust]

how fascinating!!! what an amazing find. im happy you were able to save this from being scrapped! thanks for showing how the locking mechanism works

[@abysspegasusgaming]

I can imagine that the restoration youtubers would love to near/fully restore this antique.

[@thomasking2021]

That was really cool. Resurrecting something that old and well made has to be very satisfying. Nicely done.

[@FleshPrisonJanitor]

Why am I not surprised that you're also a casual safecracker on top of all your other hobbies?

[@post.10]

This was my first time

[@jimrossi7708]

post 10 , you are a man of many trades, that’s a good thing !!

[@WeLsHMeLlY]

@@post.10 omg is there anything you can't do!?? lol.. can I ask are you scared of anything in particular?

[@MrTruckerf]

@@WeLsHMeLlY Failure. All men are.

[@Rogue_Route]

I would love to see it after you clean it.

[@azurepony9972]

fun fact: the small lock box inside the safe could be a supervisor safe as this type of safe was used most often in large general stores to lock up till money and the cashiers or manager could have the combination and the owner would be the only one with the key and would store things like the register keys in there, whether that's what it was used for or not is difficult to tell.

[@michaellamb2874]

Thank you for your video. I just got a victor safe a bit larger than yours. The inner door cover and internal cove of lock is missing but it works. Your video helped me figure out the combo as mine was locked open. It took me a year to find my first safe. I’m going to enjoy restoring it. Thank you again

[@lordchaa1598]

Your content never disappoints. Bravo sir, 👏👏👏

[@jk743]

A mini-series about you restoring the safe would be nice.

[@MrTruckerf]

10 minutes with a rattle-can of paint.

[@mrmoshpotato]

He's gonna lock all of his precious rakes in it! Gotta change the combo! 😁

[@MrStatic101]

Had a safe like this in a customers basement except it was about 3 foot tall. He just bought the 100 year old house and it came with it. He was gonna get a lock smith to open. We were taking down some material on the ceiling and a paper fell down. Combination to the safe in case they forgot. We all got excited as he opened it. EMPTY 😞

[@jeremysmiles5826]

Two ways to get into an antique safe. Drill one inch to the right of handle (if there is one) at 3 o'clock and punch the boltwork out. This renders it unusable afterwards. - If its a gravity lever drill into dialring at 7 o'clock at an upward angle of about 30%. Scope and line up the gates until the lever drops in. - If it's a drop in lever like the safe in the video drill straight into the dial ring at 11 o'clock and scope the wheel pack, lining up the gates under the fence. A good dril with 6mm carbide bits and a 5.5 mm 2 way scope like the Teslong is all you need. The antique safes were invented before powertools and have no hardplate and relocker(s). Happy drilling 🙂

[@pheurbelvls3710]

Fascinating old safe, really interesting. 💚💚

[@Hailstonepie]

Very interesting, love antiques and those that appreciate them.

[@eragonwjfn]

That safe is awesome!! It's really very cool that you saved this. :) The little bit of rust can be removed with a little hydrochloric acid. I know that's might sound heavy-handed, but the acid eats away just the rust and leaves the metal intact. A little bit of pint where the rust was, and then finish with polish. It'll look awesome! :)

[@jnwestray78]

The small Inner safe with a lock is not so much for reality, but for customer perspective. "Not only our your most valuable items in a safe, but they are in a safe within the safe! That will be an extra 10% deposit, please."

[@jenniferbutcher8393]

Well, that answers that question, how do the tumblers work in a safe....continuing to astound and entertain and educate us! 😊

[@squelchtone]

The asbestos was not just added to the concrete to make it stronger or more durable, it's main quality is its high resistance to heat and helped a safe's contents survive a fire.

[@JessycaLunawoona]

Aw man, hope you get that thing professionally restored. It’ll look absolutely stunning.

[@22Purplemist]

Yes, I was a bit concerned when he said he was going to spray paint it. I'm like "Nooo!"

[@jimrossi7708]

We have 2 safes in my house, one on each floor and one is from the 1970’s and the other is from before my aunt was born (1937) , they both weigh a ton ! I have enjoyed your last few videos as they have been different from your usual stuff, keep up the good work “Post 10” , btw the safe was in my families first home they bought which was in Pittsfield, Massachusetts, keep it up and looking forward to your next works !!

[@Iceberg86300]

Holy shit. I grew up in Pittsfield.

[@Peter_S_]

Great video. Remember that painting any of that will kill its antique value but if you want an easy and effective way to seal the concrete, just mix some Elmer's white glue and water and to make a super runny glue solution and paint it on or use a spray bottle.

[@mangledbot1323]

I'll be honest I was half expecting post to pull out his rake and just start beating the shit out of safe I swear his rake is the equivalent of aquaman's trident or batman's Batarang at this point. Its like an iconic hero weapon lmao

[@jasonhalljaxyt]

Thought this was a Lockpicking Lawyer video from the thumbnail. I saw it was over 9 minutes long, and thought "either this thing is tough to crack, or he's going to go into some history". Was honestly surprised when I heard your voice!

[@thenormalyears]

if it took LPL 9 minutes on something, essentially it could never be opened by another mortal

[@chaoticconjuring]

Extremely interesting to watch! Thank you so much for sharing 🙂

[@IndianaDundee]

“Luckily I know exactly how a combination lock works.” We gotta bad ass here.

[@traceurGeorge]

I found this channel in the very early days... and now I know how to pick a combination safe.

[@elexandriayeats241]

Gosh 😯 Another WOW video! That safe is beautiful❣

[@youtubevisitor697]

Awesome find Post 10. Loving your videos. All the best.

[@Jm4steam]

That is a nice safe. Glad you kept it.

[@theboardshorts]

Woah. Is there anything you CAN'T do? Incredible. I can honestly say you're an idol to a lot of people. Including me. Is there a FB or Twitter or website we can follow you on? I've been watching for years. I've literally watched the rise of a genuine star.

[@williamkowalchik572]

WOW! That what those fancy pry bars, can openers, are for. Flat head screw drivers. I'll keep mine now. Best video nice to see someone open it the right way and not destroy it with an angle grinder.

[@johanea]

I'd keep the safe as a decoration too. Really nice.

[@CaptCrewSock]

Gypsum is what makes safes fire resistant. There are different ratings and just like the sheetrock on your walls which is gypsum there are water crystals all inside the mineral and this acts as a vapor barrier and as long as that vapor barrier exists fire will be staved off. The thicker the gypsum the longer the vapor barrier will last while being burned.

[@IndianaDundee]

That safe is beautiful.

[@DREKOWICK69]

lately I am falling in love with these old vintages safes

[@nomusicrc]

Is there anything you can’t do Seriously anything

[@colinevans7134]

What a loverly safe, don't clean or touch this safe, it's so original and untouched, simple workings and still good after the making of this year's ago 👍colin from UK

[@RobC05]

I have this exact same safe. I got it from the local Masonic Lodge before they moved locations. It's locked open but after watching this I'll have the combination. Thank you

[@420GratefulHippie]

Please put a link in the description to the original video where you found the safe.

[@teresawelborn1360]

Your a good man and a clever one . If I was your wife , no way I would even try hide anything from you.You could put Sherlock Holmes to shame. That is one beautiful antique. Glad you found it.

[@kevinbyrne4538]

This safe is just a larger version of a Master Lock combination lock.

[@xlavahott4547]

Tip: as you spin the dial and figure out the combination, you could say any 3 numbers you want and we would have believed you and you wouldn't need to change the combinstion.

[@Boltman12278]

Right when I saw it I thought of the safe in Titanic. Then I saw the date and I was like "I KNEW IT!"

[@jstaud70]

I just cracked a vintage Alpine safe using your video. Really cool! Thank you!

[@philparrott4424]

I thi k the bottom was originally sealed. I was taught to enter a locked safe from the bottom. Cut bottom open in a "H" pattern, knock the vermiculite out and you will find a second metal piece that you cut in a second "H" pattern opposite of the first. Knock wooden floor out and you are in the safe. Safe can be repaired and reused without any damage being evident. I have a large collection of old safes. It took me less than 5 minutes to get inside the safe.

[@brunoeiler8192]

Really nice piece of history !!

[@DFDuck55]

Interesting name at the top of the safe. In 1874 a guy named F. P. Morse, from Sharon, New Hampshire, wrote a book called "F. P. Morse Dance Caller's Book" that described many well known dances.

[@capiberra4118]

Nice old safe & interesting video, thanks!

[@jimrossi7708]

“Post 10” in my humble opinion is the “DIY Bob Vila !”

[@dongies5834]

To get the door to close correctly, you need to put 1 or 2 shim washers between the door hinges. You must lift door off, to do this. The gap on top of door shows the door has probably been off , and shims lost

[@stephenrothwell8142]

The paint is awesome, considering the age of it. I would love to have something like that in my home. Back then, they didn't just make things good, they made things with style too.

[@Suncast45]

The 1904 logo was the World Fair that year! That was the Exposition that gave the world the ice cream cone. And the Hot dog according to lore! I used to metal detect in Forest Park in the early 1970's!

[@craigmonteforte1478]

very cool video i’m almost 60 years old and since i was a kid i was fascinated with old television and Movies that showed people listening to a safe with their ears up to it now that i’m getting older i just like the Nostagia a of the Antique Safes but i am very curious on how to know if a old one is a good secure way to store valueble o is it better to go with a Modern Constructed one ? At the Moment i have Plans on building my next home and i am leaning towards Concreting one into theStructure for Valueables and Firearms my one concern is being in a very Rural Area and still having fast Access to a Firearm for Security and dangerous Wild Animals to0rotect my Animalscand family members from being harmed

[@notagreg2768]

A couple questions. I inherited one of these safes and I’m trying to pop the combination lock. When you pass each individual gap will you be able to hear it from the outside? Would hearing devices like a stethoscope be required or simply an ear to the door suffice?

[@neilmurphy845]

They made things very well back then

[@AccessAir]

We have an old safe like that in our office that our boss forgot the combination to but it's locked open. I wonder if I'd be able to figure out what the combination is for her.

[@bas9841]

Fascinating! One wonders what "valuables" sat inside over the decades .........

[@LadyHeathersLair]

You seem to be handy at everything. I like that.

[@moogarner374]

I love the many roads we get to travel with Post

[@alanevans5353]

This is very cool! I recently bought a very old safe, and I was having issues figuring out some things about it but this should be very helpful!

[@willford8475]

On Keith Rucker's KZbin channel he did a full restoration of an old safe and did a fantastic job of it.

[@pauladrianse626]

If you had to rate these safes compared to modern as far as difficulty to break in what would you guess?

[@dmgsnowy8759]

So basically: 1. You listen for the ccw slowly moving for 3rd in the back gear for gap. Write down number. 2. Go the other way 1 complete full turn. Listen for the catch. The second sprocket is now moving. Listen for the gap. Leave it parked underneath the bolt. Write down the number. 3. Last one move the opposite way again listen for the bolt to drop. Write down the number. 4. Spin it backwards again and you have the combo with an opening safe!

[@Timeno123]

Full restoration video is needed :)

[@therocketman321]

Old safes can be hit and miss with fire resistance, not all antique safes are created equal. I would definitely take the lock, dial and bolt work off the door and give them a thorough cleaning and lubrication. That's the easiest thing you can do to enjoy your safe for many years to come. You can also get that thing fully restored. 😁👍

[@eddiek0507]

That's a nice old safe, It's far too good for the scrap heap. Well done for rescuing it, that will look the part in your house...🙂👍🏼👍🏼

[@ipaddlemyowncanoe.7441]

Nice it's nice when you get one with the doors already open when they're shut and locked that's a different story you can always cut the back out and go in that way but I did that with one and then I welded it back on it works good. 👍👍😀🍁

[@xlerb2286]

I have an almost identical safe that was my grandparents. It's a Victor safe but it doesn't have the "F. P. Morse" logo on top. It's absolute rubbish as far as being able to determine the combination. If you get the first number right you can hear a loud "click" when you hit the second number, and when you hit the 3rd number, just like with your safe, there's another loud "click" and the dial stops turning. You then turn it a bit in the opposite direction to withdraw the bolts. But it makes a nice decoration and there's the family connection.

[@paulcurry8369]

Just got my mask and swag bag, off to the bank with my screwdriver now, thanks for the video.😂😂😂

[@williamcleveland9218]

I have the same model safe, It was my Great Grandfathers, and I ain't no spring chicken

[@MrDmagic88]

That's so cool ! I always learn so much from your videos. Thanks

[@iangrassby]

with the outside i would give it a soft clean then clear lacquer wax or spray

[@nicks5083]

I just cracked mine using this method, i bought my safe for $180, door was opened, tumblers removed but Included. My front main door is a 5 digit combination all 3 middle digits take a full rotation and then stop at the last digit. The internal safe box must be a 4 digit cuz it has one less disk/tumbler.

[@lclements9263]

From a master safecracker you always start with the drive cam so the sequence is right left right

[@HappyQuailsLC]

Clean before oiling with isopropyl alcohol or WD40 to remove old residue.

[@gabem6362]

Great box and video... thank you

[@lovemenot82]

Hey everyone....... Your morning just gor better 😊

[@plehboy]

To open it just use the tool Bosnian Bill and LPL made. 100% success.

[@joelp6197]

nice to see, most get out the saws all or cutting torch and junk the safe.

[@Mr.Rogers91]

Wow have you done safe videos before. I love this it’s so interesting.

[@HappyQuailsLC]

You could seal the concrete with acrylic using a paintbrush, which could control the application much better than using an aerosol spray.

[@pah23]

Would be interesting to research how many of that particular safe was made by that company, your safe seemed to be safe #115 in the batch; obviously the fewer that were made the more valuable it is

[@RobC05]

I have this exact safe. I got it from the local Masonic Lodge who had bought it new back in the day. Unfortunately they painted the outside of it. I still love it but wish it was never painted. Inside is identical to what you see in this video.

[@raincoast9010]

Very cool, a good find/rescue !

[@fredbishop4381]

I just bought a 1900 Victor double doors.. locked no combo. Had to have a tow truck get it to me.. still researching a way to pop it open

[@kimburke575]

Wonderful find 🤗

[@hakanfranalvdalen1945]

Post 10 knows how to work the algorithm like a genius

[@pauliecosta7906]

Sometimes the factory reset number is on one of the legs.

[@arpitaallenadams7730]

I have one of these, a Victor Patent , but it is locked and I know have the combination. I am wondering if there is a way to open it without drilling it open?

[@stellamaggard3669]

Very,interesting and useful thing to own. And definitely fun conversation starter. But you have no shortage of those already.

[@samascolese2064]

I have an antique keystone safe & lock co safe from Philadelphia PA. It has a combination dial and a handle. The owner passed away. Would you be able to help us get this open or teach us how?