Fiido L2 Controller Upgrade (No Speed Limit) ** Under Work**

[@TechTronic9000]

The exact controller is this one: bit.ly/2GcO4GS Best places to get Fiido bikes from localized warehouses (US, EU, UK, etc.) bit.ly/FiidoOfficialStore bit.ly/AlternativeStore You can also now join the largest Fiido owners group: facebook.com/groups/FiidoElectricBike/

[@steveshea6148]

It's a best practice to make the battery leads female not male, to minimize the possiblity of them sitting against each other when unplugged. You can also slightly offset the lengths of the negative and positive battery leads to further limit this possiblity. Thanks for the video.

[@TechTronic9000]

That is a very good advice.

[@woodrunner51]

Very usefull information, thank you! Pro tip: when using bullet connectors, have the ones with holes on the voltage sources, like the battery. otherwise you could have shorts and sparks while unplugged :)

[@TechTronic9000]

Yes that is a good advice that can save you a lot of trouble.

[@aborigenalgenesis8381]

Thanks for your lesson. You helped me a lot. please tell me which wire is responsible for the cruise control? I would like to turn it off.

[@TechTronic9000]

It doesn't have a wire for cruise control it's one of the P settings from the advanced menu.

[@Dee33321]

Installed a d4s controller and display on my d2s. Everything works fine. I have managed to speed unlock it. But the light front light stays on when the bike is turn on and also the horn isn't working. The speedo isn't working either but I wasn't expecting that to be as there's no speedo on the d2s. Any help would be great thanks

[@TechTronic9000]

You probably need to set correct number of magnets / wheel diameter and it will show speed. Both the D2 and D4 use similar hub motors with hall sensor and both provide speed reading to the controller.

[@whitefeatherslinger8194]

What size is the motor ,the battery looks extremely alot for such a small bike looks a very good battery

[@TechTronic9000]

It is indeed small, it's rated to "350W" but will take happy 1200W. Sadly it is geared and at 48V it is not very fast.

[@whitefeatherslinger8194]

@@TechTronic9000 it looks a very thin type geared motor ,i prefer normal geared hubs as they are much more torgue but gearless is faster

[@whitefeatherslinger8194]

@@TechTronic9000 and how the hell can a 350 peak a 1200w ?? It would melt literally

[@whitefeatherslinger8194]

Sorry i didnt realise that this is a single clutch Motor but a controller that size should do twice that speed ,may i adk u if this controller is able to use a bottom bracket torgue sensor ,i have a 500watt fiido fatbike that is capable of much more but it needs to be able to work with torgue sensor can u help me please

[@anio6865]

Does the original controller have 2 white wires that are connected to each other or is there a white wire that loops back to the controller box ?

[@TechTronic9000]

No, it doesn't

[@oddiosanto]

Looking forward for the unlocked speed. Thank you

[@TechTronic9000]

Still working on it

[@alucardyork]

@@TechTronic9000 what's the unlocked speed?

[@sidlauskis]

DId you tested how many amps this controller is? It says 25 on the box, but mine, when i did meassurments max was 18A.

[@TechTronic9000]

I haven't measured. A limit might be the motor that is not able to draw more.

[@exgenica]

Doesn't the display/computer also have a parameter you can set to limit the amps? The EN02 display/computer does. The manual (joke that it is) suggests you can limit the amps by setting this paramater...so if it was preset to 18Amps then that's all that will be allowed. One would have to set it higher if more amps were wanted.

[@exgenica]

I noticed one of your "cons" is, _"- no switchable power so no USB charger"_ The USB +5V port on the Dohiker version is ALWAYS ON. It's current draw is very very low when not in use. That is also true for many USB "powerbanks"...there is always +5V available but the circuit only draws significant power when a device is plugged into the USB port. So, even though you don't have "switchable power" that shouldn't stop you from having one (or more) USB charging port available at all times.

[@devinify]

Can I just cut all the wires from original controller and connect it to new control bc I dont have any other connecters.

[@TechTronic9000]

That is also a possibility, but you may hold on for now as my project is not fully done yet (not road tested).

[@anio6865]

Did you try it ? Did it work ? So... ?

[@fahdbayazed7074]

Hi, I have a bike grip 2 How do I change the controller and buy another one and where do I buy Can you help me

[@fahdbayazed7074]

Fiido L2

[@TechTronic9000]

You can see in this video how to change the controller and also you can find where to get a controller from the video description.

[@PaulusKarlsberg]

Hello. Fiido d4s engine CZJB, battery 36V, I need a new controller, should I buy 24-36V 350W or 36-48V 350W?

[@TechTronic9000]

The L2 has 48V battery the D4s has 36V battery. You can get a 36-48V model and set it properly.

[@tentegarcia]

Hello, very interesting, I have a Fiido d2s just recently, could you make a video to do the same in it?

[@TechTronic9000]

On the D2S it is more complicated, you need to increase battery voltage also, so you need a new battery. Also the original motor is made for 36V so it might need to be changed also.

[@tentegarcia]

@@TechTronic9000 Ok, thank you very much for your information. I'll keep that in mind when I do the project.

[@fghxu]

@@tentegarcia I am interested to buy a Fiido, One question I have is: how is the motor sound? is it quiet when driving?

[@tentegarcia]

@@fghxu When you are driving the electric motor hardly makes noise, the bike is very good

[@andrewmuelleranantababaji8073]

I bought fiido l2 love it, but how fast does it go factory setting on throttle and pad assist 3 never get that nagging beeping hear about sand no speedometer could you please tell so5 pounds tires proper pressure

[@TechTronic9000]

does abou ~ 21-24km/h top speed in electric mode, I don't use assist. I run ~ 3 bar pressure

[@Brandon_Neil]

Any idea what the stock controllers max amps are? I'm wondering how many watts that rear motor is actually running at.

[@TechTronic9000]

If i remember correctly 12 or 16A max, but rated and limited to "350W"

[@aravil03]

Sir, is this the part 1? Can you please share the par 2t or the whole tutorial in replacing the controller? I ordered the same controller and i am planning to install on my own. Also what is the size of the bullet connector you use? Thank you in advance!

[@TechTronic9000]

Here is the part 2 with the test run kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmfIqKl-iMl5jsk

[@anio6865]

I dont know if I asked you already but,,, could you please show the name tags for the wires on the controller ? There is no one near me for at least 300- 400 miles that will work on my bike. They only work on their own bikes that they sell.

[@TechTronic9000]

There are no tags, i just made mine when I have disassembled it. I don't have a picture of the plug or wires ..

[@Rusty-oh7zf]

If I put fiido M1 Pro controller on my fiido l3 would it go faster

[@TechTronic9000]

Short answer NO. You need to change the motor, controller and battery if you want faster speeds.

[@Rusty-oh7zf]

@@TechTronic9000 would it have more torque even

[@TechTronic9000]

Only if the new controller has more Watts, it will make the motor accelerate faster and have more torque, but it can also burn it out or strip the gears

[@simonaskubilius3732]

Hi i got fiido d2s max speed 25km any chance make faster? If i put new battery 48v an new controller do its make faster? Its 48v battery good for 250w hub motor? Its not get fire? Thanks

[@TechTronic9000]

It already has a 48V, you need another motor and controller.

[@Dee33321]

Hi could you tell is it possible to install the fiido d4s controller and display on my d2s. I want to unlock the speed limit and have was gonna change the controller but was concerned about wiring and pass. I found a d4s controller and display online would it be possible to use this on my d2s.

[@TechTronic9000]

Better get a different model and also replace the PAS as Fiido PAS system has some delay, if you install one with more magnets it should be better.

[@Dee33321]

@@TechTronic9000 will the d4s operate. I don't really mind the pas to be honest. If the bike runs with throttle that be fine. I just wanna unlock it and taught it would be easier if I used fiido parts because it should match up better connects the blocks

[@jadeethan]

sorry to digress here. I have a fiido l2 and the three modes keep flashing and the motor does not work. Any idea here? thanks much.

[@TechTronic9000]

Check brakes & throttle for not being stuck or wires disconnected.

[@jadeethan]

@@TechTronic9000 wires got disconnected during the shipping in the seat area. ....seems all good now. thanks!

[@davecarlogabrillo800]

Why my PAS suddenly stops working? Do you have the diagram with the label of the original old controller? Thank you!

[@TechTronic9000]

Check the PAS position and if it has "play", it's very sensitive to position for for the magnet so if it moves a bit it will stop working.

[@andrewmuelleranantababaji8073]

Also heard if you only charge 80% you cant get 1200 charges cycle as opposed to 500 full charges what best way buy new battery

[@TechTronic9000]

Yes, true, but also the battery will give you ~ 100km range so with 5 charger you get 500km, now calculate 500 :)

[@Dee33321]

Do you know the name of the Controller. I have same one it was working fine but now throttle wont work because I went through menu setting up wheel size. Is there a way to reset.

[@TechTronic9000]

Have a look at the seller here, they have the settings listed bit.ly/2GcO4GS

[@Dee33321]

@@TechTronic9000 thank you so much mate. I have tk wait for another controller and display to arrive now because I smashed the other one in anger. Next time when I get it running again I'm gonna sell it. Its too slow. No matter what is done to it it will not go over 25kph. I'd rather buy a kugoo m4 Pro. 45kph. This d2s adds up to probably over 800 euro from buying the bike to upgrading it. It's not worth the stress. I'll get something a bit faster for cheaper money and don't have to spend hundreds of euros to try get an extra few kph from the snail d2s. I'm sorry I bought this bike now. There's only a little over 300kph use on it. I wouldn't recommend the d2s. Maybe the d4s but the d2s for me is a no no

[@andreacastigliego4479]

thanks for the video, what do you set as magnets, my speedometer marks 100 kmh but from gps it goes to 37 kmh I could ask you the parameters of yours

[@TechTronic9000]

Are you sure that it does 37km/h? this with the stock motor will do ~ 27km/h. Try 60-90 for the magnets

[@andreacastigliego4479]

@@TechTronic9000 with GPS 37kmh with controller now i have set 89 magnet and i show on free wheel 35 kmh

[@TechTronic9000]

Have you changed the motor? The stock motor on the L2 at full power and no speed limit will do ~ 25-27km/h even at 1200W (25A). The only way is to either switch to gear-less hub or to increase voltage to more than stock 48V.

[@nairisukiasyan616]

I have exact same controller. But when i connect everything, motor start to rotate when i put it on. When i play self learning cable it start to spin backwards. And pas is not working. Any ideas?

[@TechTronic9000]

PAS doesn't work on this, needs another type of PAS sensor. I also had some trouble with the self learning but it worked after a few tries.

[@rjcallos6844]

Will the break hold and turn the power on hack work on d2s?

[@TechTronic9000]

No

[@Topcat-ks5zv]

hello friend please can you make a video on how to take the play out of the headset mine is getting worse even if i tighten the threaded spacer collar as much as i can the headset still has play in it thank you ...

[@TechTronic9000]

Might do that in the future but no ETA available for now.

[@arusteisorin60]

Ce s-a intimplat cu cele 3 viteze modificand controlerul? Am inteles ca in motor este un angrenaj cu roti dintate care modifica raportul de transmisie, nu? Se mai poate actiona? Eu nu am simtit nici o diferenta La FIIDO L2 al meu intre cele 3 viteze, adica, pe loc drept, cu acceleratia la maxim, tot 22 km/h prind. Sa fie un defect? sau de ce nu sesizez nimic? La tine cum este dupa modificare?

[@TechTronic9000]

Angrenajul este fix si are un raport de 4.5:1. Cele 3 trepte sunt electrinice.

[@catalinstanciumarian]

Cat te a costat noul controler cu display, cu tot cu schimbat ?

[@TechTronic9000]

Controllerul il gaseti aici dar astepate parte 2 la video: bit.ly/2GcO4GS

[@dimitrisxl]

Any luck with the unlocked speed limit? How did you make it to go 45km/h??

[@TechTronic9000]

You can check the test run here kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmfIqKl-iMl5jsk

[@dimitrisxl]

@@TechTronic9000 This video has speed limit 25km/h... :(

[@TechTronic9000]

It's not a limit, it's the motor maximum speed. Stock controller only does 21-23km/h, with unlocked controller and high power the motor will not spin faster than 25-26km/h (on GPS). The single way to make it faster is to swap the motor.

[@dimitrisxl]

@@TechTronic9000 So what did you do to go 45km/h? You swapped the motor?? Is this a good bike, do you suggest it to buy? how many km range can it make with poor electric, without pedal??

[@TechTronic9000]

The controller that I was installing was poorly calibrated, so had to change a lot of settings to make it show proper speed. The bike is very good quality, the range on 100% can be more than 60km, even 80km is achievable.

[@anio6865]

I took everything apart. Now a friend wants this bike. And he needs the fiido L2 controller diagram so he can plug everything back together. Does anyone have one ?

[@TechTronic9000]

I don't think there was ever one available. Usually most plugs are made to fit their pair / colors.

[@abhienkhurosakhi2034]

just replace the controller?

[@TechTronic9000]

The controller and accelerator / LCD / display module. Be sure to check out also the test run video.

[@nairisukiasyan616]

All work nowgood exept pas sensor.

[@TechTronic9000]

Yes. If you need the PAS a better option would be to get a controller that comes in a kit with it's own pas sensor.

[@xklark46]

Still waiting for part 2 👍🏻

[@TechTronic9000]

coming soon

[@MrTechcat]

Should fix those brakes first :)

[@TechTronic9000]

That is on the list also!

[@JamesSmith-ff7de]

hi I love your videos I've just got a l2 and I love it but the twist throttle is just to difficult for me can you tell me the site you got the controller thanks

[@ajvirdi]

For public road use- It's no longer an electric bike accoroding to EU law but a moped. You will need licence, insurance and taxed or risk a fine, points on licence or even imprisonment. Not worth the risk.

[@TechTronic9000]

for "public roads" that doesn't mean i can limit it to 25km/h for city use and unleash it where it's ok

[@ajvirdi]

@@TechTronic9000 where its "okay" will be on private land, either yourself owning it or with permission of the land owner. So that is probably 99% chance unlikely to happen..

[@ajvirdi]

To make it a road legal product you're better off just getting it taxed and insured

[@TechTronic9000]

Nope we have different laws here, if it's not a road marked for cars / people and it's just like a side road, forrest road, etc that it's not blocked / closed then you can go as fast as you can. If you hurt yourself you will be charged as self inflicting accident.

[@exgenica]

If you're talking about the United States, then it also depends on who owns the property or has "controlling authority" over the property. There are many private, public, and semi-public areas where you MUST obtain permission to ride even an e-bike. The "class" labels are supposedly required on all e-bikes manufactured after Jan 2019. Example from one state's statutes. A number of states now use the same "boilerplate" statutes. _C. Beginning January 1, 2019, manufacturers and distributors of electric bicycles shall apply a label that is permanently affixed, in a prominent location, to each electric bicycle. The label shall contain the classification number, top assisted speed and motor wattage of the electric bicycle and shall be printed in at least nine-point type. D. A class 1 electric bicycle, a class 2 electric bicycle or an electric standup scooter may be used on bicycle and multiuse paths. A local authority or agency of this state having jurisdiction over a bicycle or multiuse path may prohibit the operation of a class 1 electric bicycle, class 2 electric bicycle or electric standup scooter on the path. E. A class 3 electric bicycle may not be operated on a bicycle or multiuse path unless it is within or adjacent to a highway or roadway or unless the local authority or agency of this state having jurisdiction over the path allows the operation. F. An electric standup scooter must have a unique identification that consists of letters or numbers, or both, and that is visible from a distance of at least five feet. The identification: 1. May not be obscured by branding or other markings. 2. Shall be used in this state to identify the electric standup scooter. This paragraph applies to all persons, including local authorities._

[@brubrushanghai]

Man, you can die driving this thing at 45 km/h... wheels are only 14 or 16”. These are tiny

[@TechTronic9000]

Then check up my T103 10" escooter (standing up) at 70km+/h :D

[@exgenica]

I've driven a bike with 12 inch wheels at 30mph and the small wheels made it a lot less stable than riding a 20 or 26 inch bike. It almost felt like the road had more control of the handlebars than did I, and every little bump wanted to twist it out of my hands.

[@steveshea6148]

You get used to it

[@rjcallos6844]

Will the break hold and turn the power on hack work on d2s?

[@TechTronic9000]

Nope, it doesn't work on any kind of Fiido as top speed is just limited by battery voltage.

[@michaelhurrell4263]

You are correct I’ve just bought a D2s and holding the brake for 5 seconds does not work