Filler is BETTER THAN Bad Pacing

[@olamasama9243]

I'm really curious on which you prefer, filler or bad pacing? Comment down below.

[@walidelmahi9828]

Filler all the way

[@jeromemik1220]

i'd say bad pacing, i mean it's really not that bad, plus your up to date with the actual anime.

[@MAT-wn5fr]

@@jeromemik1220 One Piece pacing is awful. With the amount of padding, the canon episodes already have mixed filler in them.

[@kingpepega7919]

I think filler over bad pacing, one thing I hate is showing the same flashback over and over like nico robin saying I want to live or Rebecca's backstory makes them feel less meaningful after seeing them for the 5th time. First time seeing them and your nearly in tears but the 3rd and 4th time makes you just say "yeah yeah I get it at this point". Ive never skipped forward in shows but during dressrosa I had to sit there spamming my right arrow key to make it watchable.

[@spectralisation]

Filler is just extra content that can be skipped, so of course, the more the merrier. But the problem with filler is - it has to be written and animated; TOEI doesn't want extra work, they just want to reuse the same static drawings of reaction shots as many times as possible to save $$$. I'm almost glad there's now a Netflix show that seems to be destined to success, where instead of filler they'll have to trim as much fat as possible from the story to fit into a reasonable episode count and timeframe.

[@FOF275]

bad pacing ruins great moments, bad filler can easily be skipped

[@olamasama9243]

My thoughts exactly

[@brantWu3131]

Like Naruto

[@lilveltheplayer2164]

Unless you're watching weekly, but anime rarely have filler nowadays

[@darkreunion7882]

@@lilveltheplayer2164 At least fillers are new stories that aren't on the manga. They are often bad but there can be good ones too.

[@bagle5599]

You can skip bad pacing too tho

[@silver186575]

I am fine with filler arcs as long as they don't happen in the middle of a cannon arc

[@tanakisoup]

That’s fax. Lemme tell you I was confuzzled while watching the Grimjaw fight in Bleach. They really just slapped a whole ass filler arc in the middle of a fight

[@olamasama9243]

@tanakisoup2246 Bro, that was actually crazy. I remember being so confused when Ichigo was bout to fight Ulquiorra, and then the next episode is a princess returning

[@olamasama9243]

Yea, in the middle of a canon arc makes the filler seem a bit annoying

[@BravoRox]

Cough cough Bleach Mid sword swing

[@denkerbosu3551]

@@BravoRox Plebian taste detected, opinion rejected.

[@ekayn1606]

The G8 arc was so good that I didn't know it was filler for like 7 years. It's one of my favorite arcs.

[@zaperzero]

I prefer filler, but considering how much manga content has been skipped because Toei thinks that adapting cover arcs into anime episodes is a horrible idea is just criminal. Imagine if we had less flashbacks in Thriller Bark and instead had 3-4 episodes of Ace going on adventures and helping out his milk lady friend instead of her first real meeting in the anime being Sabo saving her. There are so many side stories that add so much to the world of one piece that we just...NEVER get. Hell, the MADS developments will be just washed straight over in the anime I bet, rather than showing things like Oven and Katakuri trying to attack Ceaser and having a tense scene of wondering if this bumbling gas boy can escape enemies that Luffy could barely beat at the time.

[@olamasama9243]

Wow, that's actually a really good idea. That would DRAMATICALLY improve pacing. Episodes dedicated to the cover stories or maybe even a 5 minute flashback covering things like CP9 recovering from Enies Lobby would be so good. It prevents repetitive flashbacks, and gives us more insight to the world of One Piece

[@zaperzero]

@@olamasama9243 Exactly my thoughts! Friend and I have been going through the anime and it's his first time in taking the material so it's weird not knowing when to hit him with info from SBS's or Cover Arcs. Just once in a blue moon I can go "ok this is when I can mention that 300 episodes ago it was revealed in cover art that bon clay is alive in impel down."

[@Kenny-o6i]

Yes I find it absolutely ridiculous that they don't adapt episodes from the cover stories. This can absolutely fix the pacing AND IT'S STILL CANON TOO! Nonetheless, they'd rather have characters randomly running around, flashbacks that we've already seen, and recaps for 10 minutes of each episode. It's actually saddening, because it could be so much better. Like i'd rather have filler than crap pacing, but we don't even adapt the canon cover stories either?! C'mon now.

[@3slicessenpai]

I'm still shocked that they actually showed Aokiji and Van Augur invading Whole Cake, fighting Cracker and kidnapping Pudding.

[@randomhandle111]

@@3slicessenpai It makes sense that they would adapt that out of all of them, considering Pudding being held captive is probably a very important setup for later

[@bruhhmomentumm]

Bad pacing ruined my Dressrosa experience ngl. I was so sick of watching them push against a bird cage

[@Neo-Metal17]

Bro I'm in Punk Hazard, I'm so scared for Dressrosa not only because of the length but the pacing as wel.

[@matthewmiller9485]

OR riding that dang bull up the hill, that was AWFUL!!! Also, how cut up and TOO DANG LONG the Franky vs Senor Pink fight was.

[@YonisJama-op3uy]

​@@Neo-Metal17you are dead bro

[@Neo-Metal17]

@@YonisJama-op3uy Yeah bro I haven't watched One Piece in a few months because of how bored I am in Dressrosa.

[@jotarosans7540]

Fr, they showed the same scene of the Wano people celebrating like, 5+ times per episode during the second half of Onigashima

[@SlippySloppyyy]

Filler > bad pacing because: 1. You can skip filler, you can't really skip bad pacing 2. Filler can still be enjoyable and having the canon content have really bad pacing makes it much less enjoyable. I was literally screaming at my screen while I was watching the Gear 5 reveal episode and Hiyori's face showed up XD

[@devadathans5506]

Hiyori's face show up in the manga too and it was one hell of an epic panel. And we cut back to gear 5 once done with her scene.

[@doge_69]

@@devadathans5506 The anime just dragged that scene, that's why it was annoying

[@chopperdean3968]

@@doge_69yeah fr I hated it because it was literally just the same loop of him jumping around while old men were talking about how they have been searching for his devil fruit I thought that was extremely lazy at least have him doing something not just loop the same clip 💀

[@doge_69]

@@chopperdean3968 ye

[@Villagerwarrior]

You can skip filler. Unless it's Naruto Shippuden filler which sometimes stuck in between canon event in one ep.💀💀

[@walidelmahi9828]

A point that gets repeated a lot and I myself agree with is the fact that early one piece was more "charming", and this is mostly due to the pacing, even the fact that there was more comedy in early episodes is due to the pacing, a good pace make the joke land pretty well. There are many comedic moments in the post time skip episodes (maybe not as much as pre-timeskip) but they feel so slow because of the bad pacing, and that takes away a lot of the charm one piece had in the earlier episodes. I would rather watch fillers than this pacing, okey fillers dont always land, but we had some great fillers in one piece like the one where the crew lose their memories or the one where they land in a marine base.

[@olamasama9243]

This exactly. I feel as if the funnier moments in post timeskip are just a bit dragged out

[@devadathans5506]

Like many guys have pointed out, the best part of filler when binging is that you can skip it. And week to week, you can watch it knowin its not canon and you won't hate it because you won't care about whatever inconsistency happens.

[@olamasama9243]

Very true. You can take everything less seriously knowing that it's not actually canon

[@firestrikerii810]

That doesn't make it good

[@Quackdarlens-zl7rt]

fillers to me is most enjoyable when an anime is already done since you dont have to wait week by week for the filler to finish and get back to the main story

[@olamasama9243]

Yea, filler probably ages the best because you can skip.

[@nousername191]

@@olamasama9243 Indeed. I haven't forgotten the filler hell that was Naruto after failing to retrieve Sasuke but before the first episode of Shippuden.

[@anirudh_s17]

you spitting bro. and for people who say "oh it's not canon so I won't watch filler" there is literally so much canon material to be adapted like Enel to the moon or Ace's adventures from the novels. And OP is one of the best manga to have filler since they're literally on a ship chilling 90% of their time together, we just don't see it.

[@olamasama9243]

Them chilling on the ship and doing dumb stuff generates some of the funniest moments. And I think people would appreciate some Ace filler episodes from the novel and cover stories

[@TheJaraVerse]

I'm all for filler if it helps the overall pace of the show. I enjoyed the episode in Naruto where they tried to see behind Kakashi's mask.

[@olamasama9243]

Facts, I remember having so much enjoyment watching that mask episode. It was a good change of pace, especially when going into the Sasuke Retrieval Arc

[@TheJaraVerse]

19 more subs to go @@olamasama9243, are you excited? 🎉🥳

[@mrdolphin549]

Toei had actual canon content that could be used for "filler" episodes, that content being the manga cover stories(im mad we didnt get an episode adapting the enel cover story because if he does comes back, animes only viewers will be hella confused).

[@randomhandle111]

Thank the Oda above that they adapted the Aokiji and Van Augur cover story 🙏

[@boyvsgaming]

bro im watching one piece, and in the middle of the episode it shows a 5 minute flashback of a character dying IN THE MIDDLE of luffy fighting wapol... not to mention the fact that the scene shown happened in the LAST EPISODE

[@olamasama9243]

Facts. They always do that. It'd be something I saw last week, and then they replay like we didn't know it happened.

[@omarconteh9714]

I,really liked bleach filler arcs that focused on side characters like Ikkaku, Izuru and Rangiku for example. It makes me feel like we know these characters more.

[@Vegito224]

Dude this video makes so much sense, made me change my whole mind about one piece, and it is true, filler is better then bad pacing, thanks bro, you deserve 100k subs ngl, you earned a sub

[@olamasama9243]

Thanks a lot. One day, we'll reach 100k, so I appreciate you for coming on the journey with me.

[@superdude3457]

The youtube chapters HAHA! Also G8 was so good I didn't even know it was filler. Also don't forget the sanji filler with tajios curry and the old man with his all blue salt. Put on your tinfoil hats cuz this one piece theory makes that sanji water seven filler canon. The all blue salt comes from long ring long land which is where laugh tale is, and there is a levaithan whale beneath it in the mantle of the earths crust who every year lets out a huge amount of water through it's blowhole, and remnants of all blue salt remain somewhere in and around this whale which gets mixed in with agua laguna.

[@olamasama9243]

You see, that's why filler can be so interesting. You can make some theories that although may not be true, still are fun to explore

[@thesnazzycomet]

thank you! the amount of times people give me flak for not loving every damn episode of wano is annoying.

[@olamasama9243]

Yea, it's not like you hate the story, it's just the way it's handled can mess up the experience

[@ChakraWarrior2012]

THANK YOU! You're spitting facts here! For filler arcs, the worst thing is some bad episodes you can skip. Otherwise, it's new adventures with the characers we love and fleshing out the world and characters the manga otherwise skipped over. Like there's TONS of characters that wouldn't be half as beloved if they didn't get focus in filler arcs/episodes (or would just plain not exist without filler) Meanwhile for the Toei approach, it's a lose-lose situation. You can't skip the filler since it's mixed in with canon, and the slow pacing ruins the experience downgrading the adaptation rather than enhancing it.

[@a.liguria2698]

The Filler bad argument really is dumb once you remember that One Piece has the PERFECT excuse for them via the cover stories pages. Especially when they reveal midly important stuff like VON CLAY being *still* alive and replacing Ivankov in the level 5.5 of Impel Down. Yes, sorry anime only fans, he's not actually dead. And he's not even the only one, am I right, Pund?

[@olamasama9243]

Yea like a good cover story to adapt is the Ace going undercover as a Marine. I would not mind something like that between Wano and Egghead

[@a.liguria2698]

@@olamasama9243 And only Oda knows how many more! Like, for once that the author *himself* creates filler material for the anime to work on... they *still* refused to use most of it. Like, we only got the Buggy one where he recovers from his first defeat and the ones for the crew post separation, and fin... laaaaaaaaaaame.

[@GANTZ100pts]

Not only that, there's so much lore in the world they had/have opportunities to use other characters in past locations. Like why not make a shot filler arc of Iceberg or how about we follow smoker and his crew for a short arc.

[@a.liguria2698]

@@GANTZ100pts Yeah.

[@metainstincts85]

"Just skip the filler" The filler: *literally one of the rawest things to exist*

[@TheVnator]

Thanks for reminding me One Pace exists! I found out they have it streaming as well so I'm going to start watching that where I left off!

[@blueblade6174]

Finally! Someone that gets it! And here's something to help your point - the Zanpakuto Rebellion Arc from Bleach. Probably one of the best filler arcs in all of anime. It was so good they had to give that filler arc it's own filler arc!

[@TheJaraVerse]

Yeah I remember rolling through Bleach episodes, not minding any of the filler stuff.

[@GANTZ100pts]

They should try and implement some of the cover pages that are the Manga. Like Enel/Eneru on the moon. Hell they could even get Oda involved to ask what kinda of story they should write for something like that.

[@soulbanana8839]

The Vegito fight point is good, it shows that filler doesn't have to be arcs, it can just be fights that may not exist in the manga yet. For Wano, it might have been interesting to see Black Maria fight Robin for a bit longer for example, or the scabbards fight off some of Kaido's underlings.

[@czms922]

Ok that last part wasn't necessary y'all gotta remember this is still an ark with other characters, Gear 5 is cool, but we gotta see what the others are doing.

[@olamasama9243]

True, I love seeing what the other characters are doing. But I feel like it could've been paced better to have a more enjoyable episode. Gear 5 isn't everything, but they know it's the main attraction for these episodes

[@meganefanatic9218]

my guy successfully made a video talking about filler and bad pacing and didn't mention bleach you my guy earned a sub

[@matthewmiller9485]

If studios WIT's remake of One Piece is mostly "fluff" free as I like to call it, I would actually be willing to watch One Piece again,closer to the pacing Oda had intended.

[@merlink.7287]

I didn't dislike filler until the end for Part 1 Naruto. Something close to 80 straight episodes of filler between Naruto and Shippuden was the reason I hated filler for so long

[@samiulshaon1234]

Them trying to take off kakashi mask is good

[@jmarti1997jm]

I don't think the anime can cover 3 chapters per episode just cause in the actual chapters there's alot that happens. For example this past Canon episode with the fire and the raid covered exactly one chapter but still suffered pacing issues. Think it just depends on the chapter but I think max 2 chapters per episode would be good

[@devadathans5506]

Actually, it is way easier and would look much cooler, overloading you with entertainment. Every seasonal anime like demon slayer or JJK does that and it looks great.

[@olamasama9243]

Yea, I definitely think for how much happens in One Piece, two chapters is fine. Imagine if you just combined 1072 and 1073 without all the fluff. A lot more enjoyable in my personal opinion.

[@olamasama9243]

Very true, but One Piece couldn't go seasonal at this point. They make way too much money to do that

[@somefatkid2080]

@@devadathans5506 one piece chapters usually have alot more in them though I still think 3 is ok for some eps but alot have too much to cram in the time and would feel a little rushed like look at chapter 1010 for example

[@Kenny-o6i]

They should add filler to fix the dang pacing. At this point, many arcs were just extended so long with bs running and stuff that I now hope once Oda is done they remake it and have good pacing this time. Hell I might even try to create my own thing like One Pace for that.

[@ydrib6086]

finally who isn't sipping on 3 letters of copium, dickriding a whole mountain and has common sense. like DAMN BRO i had to quit on fish man island because the passing got so trash

[@The_moon88]

Can’t blame you the worst post-time skip arc

[@Vicezonyt]

The start look like they doing an Indian dance off

[@mattiasolsson1523]

Filler arc can be skip or watch it later if you want, but no one can escape bad pacing.

[@RosejuneGacha-g7s]

i think filler is usually bad because it's really sudden for the animators. you have to create a storyline really fast, as well as make sure that it's not too long or too short. plus, there can't be any character arcs because it's not canon material. plus, nothing too drastic can happen that would change the plot. there's no potential consequences, which means no tension.

[@randomcanadian6298]

You can skip filler, you can't skip bad pacing. I was also one of those people that made the jump from anime to manga in One Piece, Dressrosa was just such a slog of bad pacing. The kicker for One Piece specifically is that the "filler" arcs can be an adaptation of canon stuff; there are plenty of cover stories that can be adapted!

[@Yurikon3]

I think it might be good idea for industry to have original author showcase some notes of lore or details about the manga which they aren't able to instill into the actual series. Anime writers can then use this material to expand the lore and give some insights into the world which otherwise wouldn't be in the manga and perhaps wouldn't feel too out of place. Like if there is certain power which is normally used in the fights in the manga but is also used as regular tool to do mundane tasks or specified to more civilian jobs. To use this power properly they need gear to use Whateverentium which one can only get from a city ruled by three big corps with their own shenaningas which aren't part of main course but can be looked at in the anime.

[@thema1998]

Today is the *1* year anniversary of when "Filler is BETTER THAN Bad Pacing" was uploaded! The notoriously awful pacing of "One Piece" is why I probably won't watch the anime until its over. If I have to go through so many drawn out moments and flashbacks, I'd want to be ready for them. I wonder if the upcoming catch-up anime/reboot ("The One Piece") is going to have pacing problems as well! 🤓➡️🤔

[@Nalnaokie]

Ofc the best case scenario would be the show being seasonal but as you said, it just aint happening. They could finally bring DragonBall back during that time, as one piece would be on break, but we have a better chance of seeing the end of Bleach TYBW b4 that happens.

[@olamasama9243]

I agree with you. If One Piece animators came back to Dragon Ball that would be amazing animation for DBS, but it just can't happen. It's sacrificing so much money

[@mrmastaofdesasta6994]

Honestly it depends on how you watch it. If I was not caught up to One Piece, I would probably hate the pacing a lot and prefer filler episodes that I could easily skip. But since I am caught up, I would rather have small advancements each week than spend months with fillers that I am not interested in.

[@yashkambli5208]

True man . I thought I was going crazy when I started saying G5 wasn't that good due to pacing . And I think thats the reason why that G5 did not live up to the hype .

[@CaptainBuggyTheClown]

Something that goes over your head is the fact they're also focusing on their animation, and to get the quality of animation they want to give us for these fights they have to take a week or two off with either recap episodes. It wouldn't make sense for to waste budget on animation excessive filler in the fights. And we'll almost certainly get some filler arc episodes after Wano ya know when a major part of the story isn't occurring. This isn't about filler or pacing, it's about budget, animation, and weekly releases.

[@olamasama9243]

I'm not saying put filler in the fights, but having a short little filler arc after Wano with a possible animation downgrade, would ultimately be worth it in my eyes

[@michellima5280]

Since non-filler episodes doesn’t end with a filler arc, I don't have problems (talking about the Jonathan marine arc).

[@perturbedbatman2009]

I will forever be baffled at the fact G8 is a filler arc but the Davy Back Fight arc is canon.

[@octapusxft]

I am grateful for One Pace. I can take huge breaks from the series and then binge. I liked that G8 arc, but it will not work anymore. Back then the crew was still .... normal. Now they are so strong that the filler arcs are just nerfing them

[@matiasaguilar2500]

G8 is legit peak one piece content. To the point that I'd recommend not skipping it to someone watching the anime

[@nickyg7557]

At the beginning it wasn't much of a problem for me.....but it gets more extreme every time....I really enjoy watching the show but some arcs made it really hard for me. The Dressrosa Arc now took me nearly 2 months or so....because I had to pause so often because it was just to much. I love One Piece and the arc is in itself good......but it was just sooooooo darn long that I'm glad when it's finally over in the next few episodes....

[@WizaruGuy]

I was not ready for the intro

[@ssh4656]

fax bro I have always knew that filler is better than bad pacing

[@MELTMYEYEZSEEURFUTURE]

An anime without filler arcs is like an RPG without side quests tbh.

[@lucasnebz4735]

imagine having bad pacing and filler arcs...

[@olamasama9243]

At least the One Piece anime picks one or the other, which I respect.

[@DARKANGELCD]

That filler arc thing dieing out now , because more tv shows switching to seasons now and might create a tv show 3 three years after the creation

[@E.h.a.n]

Bro cemented his argument with "filler can be skipped, bad pacing can't"

[@AxelOwnz]

I would rather have filler. I am a manga reader so filler at least gives me something new that I haven't seen and is fresh. Thats still true even if its bad filler and One Piece has some bad filler. I like that much more than stretching out scenes to ridiculous levels. I remember when the I saw Luffy's final attack on Dressrosa, it took so long.

[@UnspokenRizz-ju4qq]

I would prefer a slower pacing over fillers, to be honest. Fillers tend to be quite boring. The likelihood of getting good fillers is quite low, especially if they're not based on canon events. They just aren't engaging. What we really want are developments, well-choreographed fights, decent animations, and so on. Fillers don't provide any of those benefits. Additionally, the show's pacing won't vary significantly either way. Having four to five filler episodes is an entire month of filler, while having ten episodes in an entire two-month period. I'd rather stick with the slower pacing than endure waiting for an entire week or even months.

[@olamasama9243]

Fair points. It's just a matter of different preferences, with your stance

[@Bukssy_]

If you start watching now or try to catch up it’s easy to come to a conclusion that filler is better because you can just skip it. But watching week to week you are stuck with those fluff episodes, that have nothing to do with the main story. Longest filler arc is 11 episodes afaik- that’s 3 months without moving the story forward.

[@davidistakinganap]

2:34 blue exorcist last episodes of season 1 were filler but were pretty enjoyable tbh. I’d rather have filler. I wanted to quit watching OP so many times because of the shit pacing and I had to take breaks from it too but now in the newer seasons like Wano and especially egghead the animation is so heat that the pacing is not as big of a problem and egghead so far seems to have better pacing than wano and the previous arcs or maybe it’s the same and I’m on crack.

[@alexlestat]

I'm honestly 50/50 on this issue. On one hand I absolutely hate the pacing in parts on one piece, but on the other I remember the pain of watching Naruto Shippuden filler episodes for weeks (sometimes months depending on the arc)

[@3slicessenpai]

When it comes to filler (more specifically filler arcs), I think Bleach has Naruto soundly beat. Yes, Bleach's filler arcs had ATROCIOUS timing. It got so wacky that even Ichigo and Ulquiorra mocked Studio Pierrot for not letting them continue their fight. And some one/two episode filler stories were kinda crappy (the one I remember hating was one where Hitsugaya and Matsumoto have to help out these kid ghost siblings and those little ankle biters were uncooperative AF and would rather get in trouble than go to Soul Society, dragging that story out for way longer than it should have). But some episodes would give focus to the lesser known characters of the Gotei 13 or the Karakura Gang. And the filler arcs, while sometimes slow, would actually build upon the world of Bleach, from the noble houses, the way a new captain can integrate in a squad, more lore on Mod Souls, fanfic fights between Captains...and then the Zanpakuto Rebellion arc was so good that Kubo himself integrated stuff from it into the canon! Another example would be Black Clover's Devil Worshiper filler arc, which was a cool mystery and had social-political tension, or the Captain Tournament story, which had SUPERB ANIMATION. All the while giving Asta's training in Heart Kingdom a bit more context (and apparently too much, since Studio Pierrot spoiled a post-time skip attack?). Point is, as long as the filler has some purpose, I'd rather watch that than canon episodes that stretch forever.

[@littlespjordan1340]

Good vid got my sub

[@olamasama9243]

Thanks gang, we mad close to 1k too, so I appreciate.

[@S3rrkzglazer]

After watching bount arc from bleach, fillers are my opps

[@juelzr1631]

I love the og bleach anime, but it was crazy when they just put who filler arcs in the middle of fights

[@tinyguy1015]

Couldn't agree more

[@Vagolyk]

Seasonal One Piece would have artistic integrity. Weekly one piece is basically unwatchable on a weekly basis. Something might happen during 3 episodes.

[@kamuisensei9045]

I don't know how people can hate filler arcs as long as they're well placed and adhere to the established world and characterization of the story and its characters I can enjoy a filler Ark sometimes even more than the official storyline. A great example of this is the the power Arc episodes 290 to 295 of Naruto Shippuden you can honestly slip that filler Arc right between after Naruto beats pain and the five kage Summit and if you never read the Manga you wouldn't know it was filler.

[@spiderclabaslashiearea8984]

I agree. Sure, the characters in Dressrosa needed their development, but that could have been done in 60 smthing episodes. And Wano could have been around a 100 honestly without having shit pacing.

[@santiagomarin1882]

Honestly I think it's selfish to expect the animators to do MORE work and MORE arcs, especially if you know they are going to be bad quality and you are going to skip them on rewatch

[@Sam.b_15]

Honestly speaking, bad pacing will always be worse than actual filler. I don't really mind filler, so long as it's not in the middle of the actual arc. But tbh, as a one piece fan, i have to admit that the anime has trash pacing. I'd honestly say that pre timeskip one piece had way way wayyy better pacing than how it is now on Egghead, cuz back then, they weren't focusing on imoact frames and luffy shouting or smiling for 5mins straight.

[@josesosa3337]

Correction:*good filler that doesnt intrude on the main story is better than bad pacing.

[@RaginDragn24]

i have seen people defend the pacing and say "if you dont wanna watch one piece cus its too long then dont watch it, never do one pace and ruin the opportunity for to watch it when you want to watch the whole thing" and "but the thing about bad pacing in the anime makes you understand more and somewhat chare the same journey with the characters because the anime goes much in depth in them" i dont get why you want to defend the anime take forever to do something but hey some people like how bad the pacing is i guess

[@Itjo]

I mostly don't like filler beside some good arcs but you can at least skip them, you can't skip bad pacing

[@notfabio9858]

Big facts, if it makes the canon stuff have good pacing I’ll take filler. I’d even take a year long break tbh

[@darienrouse7917]

Fller isn't what makes a person quit a show... bad or boring filler is what kills it

[@Takt.mp4]

THATS A FACTTTT

[@sofyanjamal4980]

I have to write that bleach TYBW has an amazing pacing not 5 seconds goes to waste, and people criticizing it because they're not used to this fine treatment, without any shade mostly because of one piece

[@xylan9999]

I am a guy who watched 1-1000+ episode binge watch during the time of one piece live action released and i enjoy the show inclding all the filler Maire hq G-8 arc was 1 of my fav fillers and animation change was incredible anyways when i reached 2years skip/Dressrosa Arc + rest of arc i started notice the huge pacing issue from my pov i was like there is like 400+ more ep to finish the season i felt werid seeing Dressrosa/flamigo arc sooner i was like kinda of surprised and i expected there will be lot of story/content but it was not the case it was just badpacing making the ep longer and longer for no fking season if ones piece came during this era that arc would been ended in 12-16ep with extra content same goes for luffy snake gear 4 vs katakuri etc all took long it was unnecessary(at that time i did not know they were trying to keep distance between the manga) 1000+ more like 600 ep if there was no bad pacing there was so many pacing issue and i hated it only reason i continues to watch was cuz it was binge watching so i dont need to wait for next episode to come out and i like show (i stoped watching after i catch up with anime i will watch after the arc is done so i can binge watch again instead of suffering from the annoying stall )

[@EXCLMaker]

A little bit of filler is fine, but when it takes up huge chunks of the anime it's a big problem. Almost half of the Bleach anime is filler. Naruto also has like 300 episodes of filler altogether. Sure, you can skip it now that it's finished, but not while it was airing. When it's airing you just had to wait however many months for the filler to finish, which severely impacted the enjoyment of the show. It's painful when you're really into the show and then it is constantly interrupted with yet another half a year of boring filler. A lot of people drop off when filler comes out, especially if it's frequent, which also then hurts the popularity of the manga/anime. Sometimes those people who drop off don't come back when the canon continues because the wait was too long to retain interest. And that's not even mentioning that shows with tons of filler usually still have bad pacing for the canon content anyways. Don't get me wrong the One Piece anime's slow pacing is not ideal by any means, but it's a lot better imo than having like a third or more of the anime be pure filler that we would just have to wait through until it got back to canon.

[@chongwillson972]

i LOATHE with all my soul when people call things filler which are not filler is just so stupid and dumb.

[@wall4588]

Bro was talking 2x speed at 1:51

[@pozzytrack0]

If the fillers good I’ll take it over terrible pacing if it’s bad I’d rather they just cut some small corners and move on.

[@anonymanonymus4706]

I only learned that G5 was a filler arc when I realized that One Piece KZbinrs were a thing...

[@rangopistacho6928]

If the filler is fun then its fine and you can always skip it the only way around bad pacing is one pace

[@Aqsticgod]

id rather skip filler than watch 16 min of an episode of which said 16 min 10 is dedicated to stil freames, reused reactions, and reactions while the other 6 min is relative story ebats cut in half to a cliffhanger cuzof the other 10 min of reactions and stills, and the opening and end credits

[@100StepProgram]

People say one piece is the best anime but for me it’ll never come close, as long as bad pacing exists it can never be good. It’s literally a waste of time and it feels like they are spitting in your face

[@moemoe-jb2fw]

I dropped Naruto cuz of all the filler I was up to speed waiting every week for cannon events

[@nickman287]

Bad pacing is why I completely stopped watching the one piece anime ever since reactionshot ford. (Still a weekly reader)

[@ChromaticWand]

it's definitely strange that old OP had good pacing but ever since Dressrosa it really really started to drag on

[@nnightkingj]

You know what's even better than filler arcs and bad pacing? Not even airing an episode that week or how many weeks it takes for new episodes to come

[@dungeondude0729]

It depends for me like Naruto Shippuden had the issue of putting filler in between the actual story and boruto is worse its like 80% filler and takes for ever to get back to the main story

[@Cam-w5b]

I’m still horrified from Naruto filler from when they had the ostrich filler episodes

[@ologbosere9525]

Please what's the name of the song at the intro 😭😭😭

[@Takt.mp4]

SPITTTTTT

[@Shiro0001-b8o]

I just finished naruto and I'm sorry I would take "slow" pacing than filler arcs.

[@obvv7714]

When it’s all said and done you can actually skip filler. Bad pacing is effectively filler within cannon episodes that you can’t skip.

[@tahrayay1990]

I’m gonna be honest I never had a problem with filler.

[@PinoHolly04]

With filler you get the same canon story as the manga and the filler in btw could be bad (so skip) or could actually be enjoyable and add to the series like the examples he made about the naruto filler, bad pacing keeps the same story without adding anything but makes it hard to watch and overall worse. Im going with filler.

[@IsaacChisanga-y4c]

What,s wrong with the anime catching up to the manga

[@m0gi]

I got 6 seconds in. nah, I agree.

[@spiderkid4thegamer400]

THAT WAS ON 6X SPEED???

[@RJLiams]

There are two things that make filler an issue. SPOILERS 1) When it completely cuts into the story/action or after a massive cliffhanger. I'm gonna use One Piece as an example too. Remember during Enies Lobby where Robin made her declaration that she wants to live? Well the show decided after that to subject us to 5 episodes of flashbacks. Completely killing the mood and pacing even worse than before. They did it again during the fight against CP9 where they completely stopped the main story to focus on feudal Japan. Not to mention the Sabaody Archipelago arc. Where we watched the crew blink out of existence. Only to be subjected to another feudal Japan filler. 2) When it's long overstayed its welcome. Luckily One Piece is pretty good as to make sure the arcs aren't long. Though there are 3 that get annoying. The Watership Islander, Ice Hunter, and Feudal japan.The first two lasting much too long for what they were and the last one just actively stopping the story.

[@olamasama9243]

Okay, those mid arc fillers are definitely bad. I was thinking more so in between arcs for filler to be implemented