The way I see it, O'connell was more efficient against more of the Vike's starters, was under more pressure than Minshew. I wonder if they start minshew the next game to see how he does against stiffer competition and make their decision then. I like how scrappy Minshew is just as a Raiders persona thing, but O'Connell has more room to grow as a QB considering it'll be his first full year starting... if they are even close I say give it to O'Connell.
@taugrim2 ай бұрын
The thing that concerns me most about Minshew is he won't climb the pocket. He'll either back up too much or exit the pocket. It makes protection much harder. And he got a TE killed. He's a gamer and I love his mobility, but I think AOC will be more consistently productive.
@tylermcnair49212 ай бұрын
@@taugrimYo! He got Smacked!!!
@cip70682 ай бұрын
AOC looked like a boss ! Shitty LT play yet Aidan stood in there and fired darts . 96 yard drive he's the man !!!
@djones8112 ай бұрын
I like him but we need 7 and 7 again that what's minshew did. 3 is not good enough. You have to finish and be a little mobile he's not
@billquantrill49602 ай бұрын
He's a HOF'er for sure! Lol.
@samtanka12 ай бұрын
He’s improving for sure. Wait till Adams is on the field
@billquantrill49602 ай бұрын
@@samtanka1 First ballot! Already better than mid Mahomes.
@cip70682 ай бұрын
@@samtanka1 Aidan and Tucker are going to have 1000 yards together
@shannonchurchill45562 ай бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd swear the play where Bowers made his 2nd catch was Spider 2Y banana.
@samtanka12 ай бұрын
😂I think you’re right
@Resef04862 ай бұрын
AoC seems to understand the offense more than Minshew and he's better in the pocket. I lean towards him as the starter.
@Niko-Frombestbuy2 ай бұрын
Straight yapping
@MidwestRaiderTho2 ай бұрын
Cap🤬 ASF bruh I'm a Real Raider Fan
@keethb.71172 ай бұрын
Capper of the year
@jsigston1Ай бұрын
1000%
@hoodieso885828 күн бұрын
You were right
@petergallegos4692 ай бұрын
As a Raider fan, I am leaning towards AOC because I know Minshew can succeed coming in as a replacement.
@SAsh-zg6ln2 ай бұрын
As a raidazz fan, I’m pissed that we couldn’t land a decent qb. Hell, I’d take Tom Brady at this point. We lost gruden because he thought he had free speech, we got smoked by crapallo and McDaniels, we spent a lot of money on Adam’s and no one can throw to him. Damn shame. Wish I could’ve picked a better team to be a fan of but I saw the raidazz in the super bowl and that became my team. We’ve been terrible for so damn long.
@uncletony30252 ай бұрын
@@SAsh-zg6lnit’s football no one is perfect. It’s not that big of a deal. Just enjoy the game. If it was easy we all be doing it.
@SAsh-zg6ln2 ай бұрын
@@uncletony3025 imagine if we were fans half the other teams that actually make it to the playoffs and consistently win. Obviously it’s not a big deal but that wasn’t my point. I’m now at the age where I understand the agony of old people who been fans of a team for decades and they’re constantly garbage. It’s not a big deal but it does suck
@vincentschaaf2 ай бұрын
This is such a tough decision. After watching both your videos, watching the game, listening to Hondo and Q all summer...I think i'd give the job to AOC. I'm not convinced he is better than GM, but I think most people would agree GM has had his chance and hes proven he has a relatively low ceiling. No knock on him, I think he is one of the best backup QBs in the league, I just want to know what AOCs ceiling is before giving the job to GM. I think Pierce, barring anything going down against Dalls, should give the job to AOC and if he's not happy by mid-season lets flip over to GM and spend what we need to spend over the summer to get a top QB draft. Unless GM has a renaissance and becomes the new Jim Plunkett of course.
@Will-qd2km2 ай бұрын
Pretty much what I have been saying, AOC ceiling is unknown and minshew you know what he is. I would roll with AOC if he has a meltdown over the first 4 games you got a solid guy that can win some games at back up.
@kevinplummer9732 ай бұрын
O’Connell…I think he has more upside and is consistently accurate, including on deep throws. He will just get better with more time.
@matthewdavis30142 ай бұрын
I thought AOC looked decisive and accurate. I thought Minshew started scrambling way too quick but that throw to Tre Tucker was a beauty.
@billquantrill49602 ай бұрын
He should be named the starter for the next 10 years.
@X-Saruman2 ай бұрын
Anyone from Oakland knows accuracy is the only trait that matters -ask Bill Walsh and Montana. But I also think the competition has been critical since without it look at what happened to Carr - no growth, repeat mistakes, total loss of full potential (my opinion)… players just play better w competition. Human nature I suppose.
@TheProgramgeek2 ай бұрын
Having watched all of AOC last season games, and this, I think his game and future is defined on the 3rd and 3 play: He did a correct throw, probably to the intended receiver, but he has Tre Tucker open for a TD, he even looks at him. I think that if he starts to do those plays and get that confidence to trust his ability to make those throws, that will be his difference maker between Minshew and him. He definitely has the arm and accuracy to do that, he just needs to trust himself.
@fzoulcmbyl21342 ай бұрын
It seems the pump-fake is a lost art, there are 2 instances where Tucker beat his guy for a TD and in both cases there was time for a pump-fake and bomb. I hope the QB's are able to find him a few times per game, cause he's going to get discouraged being that wide open for nothing.
@jonzilla52092 ай бұрын
You do a great job bro
@pigdroppings2 ай бұрын
O'Connell needs to grow a mustache like Jaguars owner Khan
@billquantrill49602 ай бұрын
He can't. Sad.
@AustinMeyer-i3e2 ай бұрын
His first reads ran into each other and RB was covered on the sack. No time for a 3rd read. I wish he would have slid like he did earlier. Im still leaning AOC. Cowboys will be a good test for Minshew if he starts.
@capecodraiders472 ай бұрын
No hospital balls unlike Minshew. Raiders have a lot invested at the TE position. They can't have QB like Minshew tossing up floaters and getting someone hurt. Aidan's arm is quicker this year.
@yungpuppz2 ай бұрын
💯
@aguy66412 ай бұрын
Minshew panics in the pocket too often for me.
@bplup64192 ай бұрын
Start AOC but use Minshew in short yardage or goal line.
@autumnwind12162 ай бұрын
AOC looked more consistent than Minshew.
@realone23212 ай бұрын
I'm rooting for who ever can win us the most games .. Let them play ball
@raiderrog64122 ай бұрын
Here's a thought: bottom line, who scored 0 in their quarter, and who scored 20 in their quarter?
@ConspiracyQueryDotNet2 ай бұрын
It wasn't 0 and 20 for the first two quarters, it was 3 and 17. I think Aidan looked a little more impressive, going against slightly stiffer defensive competition and completing 78% of his passes, compared to 50% for Minshew. He started backed up against his own endzone and drove all the way down the field: those types of drives are worth their weight in gold in the regular season, as they keep the defense fresh. Minshew seemed to have happy feet a little too much, Aidan was getting pressured but kept getting the ball out quick, except for that last play where there wasn't much he could realistically do with it.
@OPTICXPROTOTYPE2 ай бұрын
I know it’s pre season but he does seem to have more pocket presence minus the red zone sack
@THEJavelinX2 ай бұрын
@6:20 so about the WR running the under route that he could have thrown to, he got picked off on that in his 1st game vs the chargers last year in almost an identical situation where the CB broke on the ball and made the play...CAN you throw that? Sure. Should you? Only if it's a big body that can box out the DB Also, he doesn't run into the pressure, he's definitely moving to his right and the guy is coming from his left, on the blindside effectively unblocked.
@joseolmos59622 ай бұрын
In retrospect, how do you feel about the late round qbs? Especially rattler i feel based off of his highlights from his first game I feel he would thrive in the raiders offense
@pacificsoundrise96502 ай бұрын
Rattler is gonna do awful if he ever gets real game starting time. Pre-season isn't a great evaluation
@davidmckinley53432 ай бұрын
I like that AOC has an accurate deep ball. He showed it last year. Minshew is a little bit of a gunslinger. He's going to make some very cool plays and some very bad plays. He does have one big fault though. He tends to roll right too much when there is some pressure instead of stepping up. Then the end gets a free chase to him.
@JoseMendez-s9y2 ай бұрын
That was a busted play from the start Tucker ran the wrong way, the defender blew by his man like he was standing still.
@daudder2 ай бұрын
a very good pre season effort by AOC. Accurate, faster, showed off strong arm. 95 yard opening drive for points was good, TD would have been better.
@davidkingraiders72942 ай бұрын
The play that he got sacked on, was not going to be a touchdown. anyway !! if you look at the read properly, you would see that that guy would’ve been tackled right away. With that being said, though Aiden !!!! learn to step up in the pocket, always, and then look for the right and left lanes to scramble To be honest with you that is why Tom Brady was so damn good he didn’t do too much in the pocket, but he was very subtle on knowing how to step up and either go left or go right a few feet to get that extra time
@physiciansassist12 ай бұрын
I doubt any 2024 1st round draft qb's did this week..
@pigdroppings2 ай бұрын
AoC and Minshew looked about even
@aguy66412 ай бұрын
Minshew hit his ceiling years ago, I'd like to see Aidan start.
@macrocosmicorbit39822 ай бұрын
Years ago ? He made the pro bowl last year .. playing for a team that was rebuilding
@JaymieFalco2 ай бұрын
No matter what happens Saturday AOC should be the starter for the 1st 4 games to see what he can do. Keep GM in reserve in case things go bad
@jerzey7072 ай бұрын
I like Aiden, but if he was even the least bit mobile, he would have taken that last play that you showed to the house on foot…sigh
@riffmaster502 ай бұрын
AOC runs the offense and doesn't put WR's in danger. The first time Minshew throws Adams a, "Murder ball." you better believe he's going to management again.
@joaquinvierra32992 ай бұрын
Those receiver routes look terrible. On that sack those receivers were in each other's way. I saw the same thing with Mineshew. Im not too impressed with Getsy so far but its early but Chicago fans would complain about the same thing.
@christiancarrillo7922 ай бұрын
I'm a Raiders fan and people are complaining, then I say we'll at lest they are better then Jimmy G. Lol
@3Kitsune2 ай бұрын
1st play, BB was way open down the line .
@Devastator1232 ай бұрын
He still can’t run out of the way
@billquantrill49602 ай бұрын
Poor mans Mike Glennon. Lol.
@drwang48842 ай бұрын
I’m just happy he’s not wearing 4. I never was the biggest Carr fan, didn’t hate him like a lot of the fanbase though, but that was just in horrible taste 😂
@SecondHSProductions2 ай бұрын
I’m going AOC as starter, superbowls are won from the pocket and minshew doesn’t stay in the pocket.
@sixptstar2 ай бұрын
I thought AOC's pocket movement was better than last great. Not great, but better.
@arnoldcelaya67022 ай бұрын
Quarterback controversy??? Isn't it just a plain and simple quarterback competition.
@raidernation52372 ай бұрын
Minshew is terrible. I have no idea why this is even a debate.
@tooslowbum59212 ай бұрын
Honestly it's hard to say who is doing better our LT play is garbage if we don't get Colton Miller back and JPJ whoever starts is gunna look like shit cause they will be under consistent pressure so we will see in a clean pocket I think AOC wins the job no question but idk if the current line can provide that our right side is questionable and our left side is garbage without Miller and JPJ
@joevitaleconstruction.7042 ай бұрын
That play near the end zone was terrible. 2 guys run into each other third guy within 5 yards of them… somebody ran the wrong route, that was OC’s fault not Aiden’s..
@DubheMedia12 ай бұрын
That offensive line just sucks. Only hope is Miller and JPJ come back and be above average this year. Otherwise the offense is going to be bad.
@MidwestRaiderTho2 ай бұрын
I'll take Brady over this As a Raiders fan we have so many weapons And qb has beeb shitty since Rich Gannon Don't start me on average azzzz Carrabge
@jynx55922 ай бұрын
AOC had 1 drive, and minshew had 4. If they give OConnell another drive, he would've had 140 yards and probably scores a touchdown on the next drive. Im still rooting for AOC.
@frankhernandez68832 ай бұрын
*AI-DAN! AI-DAN! AI-DAN! AI-DAN! AI-DAN! AI-DAN!*
@donworryboudat2 ай бұрын
Minshew qb1
@mattm53652 ай бұрын
Smoke 💨 another one lol 😝
@donworryboudat2 ай бұрын
@@mattm5365 I'll be coming back to your comment on game 1