Batman Needs Villains - Movies with Mikey

[@obelix703]

One of my favorite moments of this movie is when it’s revealed that neither Batman nor Gordon know ANY Spanish, and get mocked mercilessly (and rightly) by the Penguin. It really underscores your points about Bruce having glaring blind spots in his world view.

[@ladambell]

I had the exact same thought you did about this ending - I realized that I’ve NEVER seen a Batman movie where he’s actually shown helping people on-screen, so it felt revelatory and fresh. It makes me genuinely excited about what they could do with this version of the character.

[@ScaryMason]

“Some days you just can’t get rid of a bomb.”

[@aurifulgore]

I seriously teared up at that part myself... I always talked about how that was missing. Sure, Batman can save the city, the region, a group of people, but we so rarely actually see him saving the faceless populace with his own hands. Love or hate BVS, at least we saw him saving some people in Metropolis. Both of these scenes hit what Batman in B:TAS and JL/JLU Batman could do so well.

[@zemox2534]

​@@aurifulgore Except Batman doesn't fucking kill in TAS! Do not compare that masterpiece to anything directed by Zack!

[@dukrous]

This is the whole movie for me...someone finally told a story where The Batman realizes vengeance isn't healthy for Gotham. The Riddler is where The Batman is headed and Gotham will pay for that childish outlook. So he decides that he needs to ignore vengeance and be the hero Gotham needs.

[@nicholsonfile]

In the narration doesn't he say he wants to be a symbol of hope? Like, you know, Superman. Excited to see Batman as an inspirational, hopeful social justice paladin in the sequel

[@KSchawacker]

Biggest revelation of the video. Noticing Mikey's award from Gearbox on his mantle and doing a bit of googling. This man was a WAY bigger part of my childhood than I ever realized! Working on Boarderlands and Brothers in Arms to name a couple of big ones! My dude! Thanks for the memories! I'm buying a shirt from catawampus asap.

[@loiterring]

"If we're being honest, Riddler's a streamer on Kick" That actually got me laughing out loud

[@ShadaOfAllThings]

"Hot Emo Noir Batman? I thought you'd never ask" Honestly couldn't have put it better myself. Like, god damn

[@DetectiveOlivaw]

Mikey really dials in to why, when I really sat down and thought about it, The Batman is my favorite Batman movie. It’s got things on its mind about its characters and its world and our world that I haven’t really seen another superhero movie grapple with successfully, and that carries so much weight when your movie is about a place as much as it is a person!

[@oneannoyingwhiteguy]

Batman gets outsmarted in this movie because he doesn't know what at tool for installing carpeting is. Which both makes sense and also beautifully showcases how Batman isn't the all-knowing mastermind hes often portrayed as. Its a very human and realistic flaw.

[@nicholsonfile]

Remember when he walked into gunfire multiple times? I liked that!

[@BeautifulEarthJa]

Highlighting he's a billionaire....he has blindspots that ordinary ppl wouldnt....

[@Lyanraw]

He could have just gone to where the photos at the start were taken from and be in the riddlers living room

[@seanbruce630]

To be honest, I didn't know what that tool was for either, and I'm not a billionaire.😂

[@LBVidiot]

Not a genius… yet. To me, this is where he gets the impetus to make the bat computer.

[@RoundHouseDictator]

Movies are okay sure but movies with Mikey is more what I'm looking for

[@russofthefrozennorth]

I don't always agree with Mikey, and that's probably the beauty of long-form content like this, but damn I love every video that gets put out.

[@hugopinai2005]

This and Patrick H. Willems have been my favorite youtube channels for years and it would make me incredibly sad to see it go away or even just reduce the amount of videos you guys are able to produce. Movies with Mikey has given me a lot of joy over the years, everyone involved is filled with empathy and kindness and I try to live my life (and watch movies) in the same way. I'm a student and I can't justify patreon subscriptions, but I bought a No one knows what they're doing pin today (2 to 4 weeks shipping to Italy haha). Trying to support every way I can, I love you guys.

[@nope5657]

Willems is a goober who thinks he's smarter than he is.

[@yourstruly5738]

Patrick H Willems is the most underrated KZbinr imo. The videos are so high quality and entertaining even if you don't care much about the subject matter

[@nope5657]

@@yourstruly5738 they're bloated and unfunny and take too much time to say very little.

[@richteffekt]

Damn you edited out this gem: "Noir is about the crimes you already got away with." - from the Nebula cut. Not an insignificant insight and amazing one liner at the same time. Just goes to show what's in my man's bag. (And ofc that I'm a super fan; as qed'd by saying "thanks for the Catawampus-shirts, I'm already wearing the hell out of them").

[@WillowtheRose9]

New movies with Mikey vid is an IMMEDIATE click every time! Also, the new Batman was great! Didn’t think R Patt had it in him!

[@gateauxq4604]

Robert Pattinson was great in all his movies aside from Twilight. That series really was a cage for all the actors involved. Im glad they’re free finally.

[@BoyBlunder66]

I honestly love the fact that Batman is a genuinely flawed character in this movie. He makes mistakes, a lot of them, and it takes time for him to learn from them, but by the end of the movie, we finally see him start to grow into what he needs to be.

[@joshuawoodson6620]

I found myself, just yesterday, wondering when a new Movies with Mikey would drop. Couldn't click on this fast enough.

[@CharacterDesignForge]

Algorithm helping comment ahead of the watch, excited for this!

[@KraakenTowers]

The overall trajectory of Batman movies have been getting darker and darker, which is a problem of its own, but I think making this movie the whipping boy of that problem is a bit unfair. It's like saying that buffalo wings and Chicken Tikka Masala taste the same because they're both spicy. I think this movie being a "noir" movie is kind at the heart of that. It uses that (thematic) darkness in a way that Batman has been sort of missing, and pointedly ends in the (literal) daylight to demonstrate why it was dark to begin with. I personally grapple a lot with Paul Dano in this movie, because he's a great pycho killer who really doesn't embody anything about the Riddler. But when he isn't on screen it's both the only movie to really get the BatCat relationship right (as much as I'll go to bat for The Dark Knight Rises) and the only movie that's actually *about* Batman as a character, rather than being about Bruce Wayne, or the Joker. I hope The Brave and the Bold doesn't take away from Matt Reeves' ability to build Batman up and out of the noir elements and into something that more closely resembles the end of this film.

[@TMmodify]

loved that video, I just wish that you talked about the carpet tucker for like even 5 seconds because it is SUCH an important aspect of the movie's message in my opinion : A person who's only ever known material privilege just isn't fit to larp as a detective on the proletariat's ground. He has never seen a carpet tucker nor ever had to learn what it was for and that keeps him from ever getting the last piece of the puzzle

[@hollandscottthomas]

Yeah, and the Riddler had assumed he would know what it was as well!

[@Axel-ye8tt]

Most people don’t use a carpet ticker so that’s a lame trick

[@aMilling]

I know Nolan made some good movie, but to me The Batman is the best batman movie ever. People said it was slow and boring. But to me it's like blade runner, it's an experience, an atmosphere that you get to live in and be a part of for the movies duration. That's hard to beat.

[@fendelphi]

The Nolan Batman movies are great action movies with great characters, writing and tension. They were more dark and gritty than what we expected super hero movies to be at the time(and to some extend, that is still true), but they were still very much super hero movies. The Batman is a thriller/crime noir action movie. It feels closer to something like Unbreakable/Split, and yes, Blade Runner, than your typical super hero movie. And I like it for that.

[@sivosivo9019]

I have so many feelings about this version of batman its nuts. something about Bruces realization that he was adding just as much poison to Gotham as the any of his villains... that violence is a sickness, revenge is a sickness, and that vengeance won't save anyone.. that shit makes me wanna chew glass. in a positive way

[@bigmilk13_]

Ok I've written FilmJoy across my forehead, this is gunna be one hell of a conversation starter

[@noakai]

Those ending scenes where Batman is the light in the darkness and trying to get people to trust him help and then when he's helping people as the dawn slowly breaks were truly masterful.

[@darkecofreak23]

If I could afford it, I would pay Mikey and Teara to just do videos like this for as long as they wanted.

[@alfighter27]

Absolute club banger. Last line got me so good

[@florallychaotic]

This movie was my hyperfixation for about four months after it came out and this video may single handedly send me back into that

[@themorrislessgroup]

God I hope this channel gets a big amplification somehow. You guys do such awesome work and deserve another million followers

[@JohnEvans-xg2bp]

The scene where Bruce destroys "Vengeance" and becomes Batman is almost biblical. He is literally born again, cut from a cord, baptized from death into life, from fear into hope, slavery into freedom, one light in a dark world. He literally follows a true Christian understanding of loving others: immediately stop what you are doing, repent, be transformed, and then embodying Christ by loving, serving, and meeting others where they are. It's almost as if he's Moses, leading the Children of Israel through the red sea, starting with the stand in for his inner child.

[@A-G-A-G]

The dual arcs and characters of catwoman and Batman do more than anything to illustrate the main theme well

[@JC-ex3gp]

God I always love your intro music Stop the track and rewind that! Oh and I'm pretty sure it's gonna be another one of my favorite Mikey essay loved the movie thought it was a good study of light and shadows.

[@xliquidflames]

I have alwaya loved the style of this channel. The voice of the writing, the voice and style of the narration, the style of the motion graphics and editing. It is just all so cool. And you do it all while getting me to think about movies in new ways, with new perspective. Nicely done, as per usual. You all do such a great job. I don't understand the shackles they have on Paul Danno. There is a big hoop around his neck that looks like it is big enough to just slip off over his head. That hoops is apparently chained to his hands. But what good does that do if he can just take the hoop off? I don't get it.

[@hollandscottthomas]

It looks like it would be easy to take off, but the chains that connect it to the other parts of his body that are also shackled are too short, so it's actually restricting his movement.

[@RecklessFables]

I'm always amazed how Mikey's films hold my attention so much better than pretty much everything else

[@ScarletxCupcakes]

Good villains are the key to a great Batman

[@sivosivo9019]

gosh I had to pause at the intro song cause it made me giddy.. its been a hot min since I was able to just sit and inhale a mikey episode. the theme song has me grinning. this channel gives me so much joy and excitement

[@dillondorsey1429]

Once the flare lit up and we got that iconic scene my jaw dropped on the floor I was so impressed

[@JaRyCu]

First, we need more Movies with Mikey. I know these videos can't be the easiest thing to put out, but this channel has long been my absolute favorite channel on KZbin. (I even bought the "Nobody Knows What They're Doing" shirt and kept the box it came it because Mikey signed it.) Second, I saw this for my birthday last year. I'm a huge MCU fan, but I grew up a DC fan with the 1980s Superman and 80s-90s era Batman movies in my childhood and teen years, and I adored The Dark Night trilogy from a decade or 2 back. I remember going into this almost praying "please don't suck please don't suck please don't suck." When it ended, I just sat there, stunned. It felt amoral... sacreligious... just plain wrong... but I think I liked it more than The Dark Knight. I even talked with friends that week about how it was better than TDK. The music, the imagery, every single thing about this movie was perfection to me...

[@canorth]

Aaand heres one of my top five channels posting again. Good to see it.

[@snoochiebuchie8214]

My favorite reviewer bringing god tier content. Thanks yo

[@AngeloBarovierSD]

The triumphant return of the prodigal FilmTube son!

[@felipea1399]

Hey! The Batman Returns romance was also quite great In fact, I prefer the Batman Returns romance somewhat

[@NateDogg2888]

Still GOAT theme song, glad to see ya again, Mikey

[@DavidRay39]

14:03 - JOURNEY!!!!!!!!!!

[@skeezixcodejedi]

Still one of the best channels on the internets.

[@bk138gt6]

This is my absolute favorite Batman movie

[@Draliseth]

Glad to see you in my feed again! I'm bad about checking my subs and the algorithm is garbage. Thanks for the wonderful videos and hope you're well, Mikey.

[@sweeneykilpatrick261]

I have written FILMJOY on my forehead. Now what.

[@roberthelm87]

the MCR was all i needed, Thank You

[@Anon282828]

you make me want to re-watch it, thank you!

[@GCdevine1]

Welcome back. Love your stuff

[@rakinh]

My POV Mikey: "oh speaking of mob films..." *Insert commercial for KZbin Music*

[@alvikay]

I have come to the overdue realisation, that I am a massive Mikey simp-goblin. Thank you for the 8+ years of content. I watched a thing about my favourite Geena Davis movie about 8 years ago... and I have never missed a video since. I need to Nebula-Patreon the shit out of FilmJoy. x

[@suto5704]

I'm so hyped for The Penguin show

[@Rreinholdt]

Thank you guys 🙏 you are the beesus kneesus!

[@mightyd42]

I love that I recognize several of my favorite KZbinrs in your Patreon credits. Talent recognizing talent.

[@derekrose3328]

Only at the @12:55 marker so far: Mikey THANK YOU ❤️🤝 For pointing out the victim blaming AND Bruce getting called out. That’s one of my favorite things in this film: they show Bruce isn’t right either, and doesn’t have all the answers either (as a person, interpersonally, or as a world view). And that’s the key thing a lot of media misses: it’s about showing something a lot more visceral and real (in this case Bruce being wrong, too) and another sun plot character going, “Whoa! Check yourself!” 👏 Bravo sir 👏❤️ Your emotionally intelligence and sociology skills are always appreciated 🙌 EDIT: And your humor and styling and delivery of it (duh) but that’s obvious! 🤣👏

[@stevencooper564]

New MWM? Nice! It's The Batman? Awesome! THAT MY CHEM INTRO!? Hell yeah! That song was my anthem in 8th grade, lol.

[@auntvesuvi3872]

Thanks, Mikey! 🦇 #FilmJoy #MoviesWithMikey #Batman #BatmanVillains

[@seanbruce630]

Batman is one of the great literary characters of all time. So, it makes sense that the villains are equally great and as complex as the title character.

[@8bitdee]

2022? This movie feels like it came out at least 3 years ago. Maybe because it’s so long that when I left the theater I thought I was in new decade than the one I was when I went in.

[@thewhitefalls]

I really love your work Mikey.

[@titaniumteddybear]

Particularly good video today, Mikey.

[@daddyb1100]

You always find a way to gut punch me with your outros. Very happy to see you back!

[@jmgonzalez4]

Batman = "a wildcard reacting.. emphatically." .. lol, hey, I can't argue with that.

[@thomasoa]

I've often thought Batman and his villains seem like a twisted version of the straight man fool comedy duos.

[@BouncingTribbles]

Colin Farrell is one of my favorite actors. He's a sleeper genius

[@udbhavseth799]

you're the best film critic i know!

[@Xlr8UrL1f3]

Excellent as usual. And stylistically becoming more subtly profound. Thanks.

[@clairebroderick4495]

Brilliant as always.

[@jasonsmith9074]

Randomly decided to rewatch this three-hour movie tonight and then almost immediately discovered a new MwM video was posted about the movie I just finished rewatching. Crazy.

[@paulengle5784]

That ending. Damn.

[@josephteller9715]

For some reason I never got notice on Nebula that this had dropped over there.... will go watch the long version there (been a subscriber there for a long time). I check the site weekly (usually thats all it takes to get notice on everyone I watch there).

[@ZSzofer]

Love the Yoshi's Island sound effect

[@Nkanyiso_K]

Heck yeah, going straight to nebula ✨

[@TheDeChaser]

"Streamer on Kick" made me laugh. You could have also said Rumble. ;)

[@Eldaino999]

Absolutely fantastic stuff. You’ve outdone yourself sir.

[@gabrielkale]

I'd like a behind-the-scenes about how you come up with the thesis for these videos. It's very interesting.

[@Merble]

They repeatedly watched the movie through the lens of a film nerd/philosopher constantly asking "Why is this that way and what does that mean?"

[@gabrielkale]

@@Merble So, Merble, the script-writing for this video is elegant in its analysis, but it's not philosophy. They end on the thesis. However, they write about the conflicting elements that compose the neo-noir genre without making this a 2-hour video, using quick edits and dry wit (often very Texan). What makes this extra meaningful is that Film Joy does it while exploring media through a positive lens; that's why I'm curious.

[@Merble]

@@gabrielkale I didn't say it was philosophy, I said he thinks about it like a philosopher, which IME tends leads to exactly what you're seeing. Mikey and team seem to just want a little positivity in the world, even when going with dark subjects. Obviously I have no clue what they actually do but that fits to me.

[@gabrielkale]

​ @Merble Pardon, but my clarification was simply intended to specify why I am interested in seeing the thought-process regarding those components. So I apologize if my message seemed excessive. Anyway, thanks.

[@Merble]

@@gabrielkale You've nothing to apologize for, homie. I'd like to know the actual answer too since I'm just guessing as a fan of their work.

[@MrMann0123]

Brilliant, thank you

[@RetroHellspawn]

Definitely another banger, holy cow. 🤯 Despite knowing that it had fairly high praise amongst critics and audiences alike, everyone I've talked to (with exception to a small handful) have *hated* the new Batman. I walked away from the theater feeling seen, and it was incredibly life affirming that it's ok to struggle to find your way. BATMAN WAS A BABY ONCE TOO Y'KNOW 😂 Gotta crawl before you can walk, and Baby Bats (Year One Batman) never learned how to crawl. He's been stuck in the cave, laying there like it's a cradle for his feelings. And then a massive disaster had to happen to snap Bruce out of it and start seeing what helping *really* looks like. Thank you for re-affirming my love for this movie. ✌😁

[@mndrew1]

Batman has always been about 'all the broken people'. :D

[@shubhamrapartiwar5100]

I missed you Mikey!

[@ohladysamantha]

you said so many of my own thoughts and more. batman helping someone... chills.

[@Axel-ye8tt]

That’d every movie

[@BlooferLady86]

My only problem with this movie is that they used The Riddler when Anarky was RIGHT THERE.

[@ShubhamBhendarkar]

Loved the video mickey

[@BustedHeart]

My father is Mr Batman, you can call me Bruceman, I mean batm'n.

[@PramitChatterjee1993]

amazing stuff! amazing!

[@tobisonbrown]

Gangster shit. Great video Mikey. Finally became a patron after all these years. Sorry it took so long.

[@JonathanBates]

Switching over to Nebula then to watch these!

[@Jmz7vHD]

I was supposed to finish something before logging off at work but this is more important.

[@patrickangelobalasa]

"Riddler is a streamer on Kick" LMAOOOO true..

[@allwayzrushin]

I caught that deep blue sea reference at 24:21. Respect.

[@patrickdoyle81]

Does Movies with Mikey have your own channel? You need it!

[@BenaiahPS]

Kevin Conroy's portrayal remains the best version of Batman.

[@martinholden2281]

Excellent analysis, as always, Mikey. Take care, be well, rock on.

[@hamilpatel4025]

[@LithmusEarth]

"This new batman [...] is building a world around our chiroptera-themed friend. A world of filth and crime, an unsaveable mess that is too far gone to heal. A Batman with no winning scenario. [...] We're venturing back [...] to the world of noir. A world shaded in greys. There are no absolutes. Everyone is miserable."

[@kalynaq7720]

AWESOME THANK YOU! my thoughts were simple coming out of the theater, that this self-appointed authority of violence had learned to help the people, leading them out of rising water with a red rose held aloft, and suddenly looked respectable in daylight with a worker's mud on them. that feels funny for batman, but it's obviously an artifact of the mirror world we're in, to the one where noir is ostensibly from. the above and behind authorial voice, the context in which noir operates is more different now (than then) than noir is (now, than then).

[@notelliot70]

Got a new shirt and a pin for my daughter. Already have Nebula. Hopin good stuff for you

[@angrykeeper]

Great take on The Batman, made me see somethings I missed. I have to say though, this movie was close to being on a much higher level as a truly great film, if there would have been just a few editing changes. They let some scenes just hang on too long, like the Riddler and Batman's interaction near the end of the movie, I think the removal of the Ave Maria bit, or some adjustment to it would have done wonders to really leave the Riddler just that more compelling, it doesn't accomplish much in my personal opinion to give you any extra insight into the character or really spell out his mental issues. The two other big ones that stand out to me is the literal end of the movie where Bruce and Selina are driving away from each other, why did that need to linger quite that long. Lastly was the wingsuit scene, you make this gritty and realistic batman where everything has its consequences, then you have a perfectly fine wingsuit use that makes sense and is a cool use of the gadget, then it ends with him absolutely hitting bridge extremely too hard especially since his movements aren't really arrested in anyway for slowing him down, bounces around like a pinball, then just gets up a little hurt and limps away. Why did they end the wingsuit with that hit, it changed literally nothing in the movie. I honestly think if they didn't want to reshoot, they could have ended the scene with him flying away in the air and it would have made for a better decision than just leaving it like he got hurt, but meh it didn't matter at all, cause Batman.

[@Deondre_Clark]

Thumbs up prewatch

[@andrewcurtis2337]

Switch to Nebula to finish watching. 👍🏽

[@Mallory-Malkovich]

Just remember, if it wasn't for Disney lobbying to have copyright law changed, _Batman would be in the public domain right now._

[@Marzkep]

Thank you for this video, you’re always a gem.