Filmmaker reacts to 12 Monkeys (1995) for the FIRST TIME!

[@JamesVSCinema]

We are back into the crazy mind of Terry Gilliam! Want to vote on what I should watch next? Click here! www.patreon.com/jamesvscinema Loki will be uploaded tomorrow with "Delicatessen" dropping Friday! Enjoy the day :)

[@lonelyperson1233]

Can U try Australian movies

[@johnberg9497]

Another movie the predates this is Time Bandits! Great film

[@bedroomarcade3160]

ivans childhood is a really good looking movie youd appreciate it and it would make a good video also blue velvet fan do more lynch like eraser head and twin peaks

[@theblueexorcist8731]

You need to react to the TV show that's really amazing

[@reman666]

Im not sure if you got the bit after the endcredit? on the Airplane? Hope you did .

[@Cosmic86x]

The ending scene where she sees young James and they look each other in the eyes is such an amazing and beautiful scene. This movie was a masterpiece.

[@ThomasSoles]

Such a good movie. Terry Gilliam is always so offbeat and surreal, but somehow he never sidesteps characterization. No matter how nonsensical everything seems, his characters are grounded in reality. And they are often in a world that dismisses and just crushes their spirit. At once, it is outlandish, deeply affecting, triumphant, and sad. It reminds me of how I feel when I hear Louis Armstrong sing a happy song - I am conflicted by the melancholy, but uplifted by the words.

[@MamadNobari]

And then we have Nolan...💀

[@JC-es5un]

Terry Gilliam is such a genius! “Time Bandits” is another great TG classic worth checking out 😃

[@john0constantine]

Yeah I second that. Watch Time Bandits. Your brain will so have a blue screen.

[@JC-es5un]

@@john0constantine “Men…with nipples!” Lol, Terry Gilliam is awesome 😊

[@JamesVSCinema]

I’ll look into it!!

[@JC-es5un]

@@JamesVSCinema When he made 12 Monkeys, Gilliam spent an entire day shooting one scene because he wanted the shadow of a hamster on a wheel on the wall to look just right, that is his attention to detail!

[@DanOfTheDead77]

I would also say the Adventures of Baron Munchausen. Which also has Eric Idle in it as well.

[@paulhewes7333]

The scientist from the future on the plane was there to collect an unaltered/unmutated version of the virus. She was there to insure they got the sample. Hence, she was in "insurance"

[@antimatter2380]

I never thought of it that way. I always assumed that rhis was just another nod to everything being so linked up that it shows how she was unknowingly connected contemporaneously with the past events.

[@antimatter2380]

I never thought of it that way. I always assumed that rhis was just another nod to everything being so linked up that it shows how she was unknowingly connected contemporaneously with the past events.

[@antimatter2380]

I never thought of it that way. I always assumed that rhis was just another nod to everything being so linked up that it shows how she was unknowingly connected contemporaneously with the past events.

[@Deimos2k5]

I'm pretty sure the intention is that she's been able to use the information provided by James' WW1 buddy to correctly identify that ponytail man is the guy. She's there in case James fails to complete the mission

[@StephenWest-t2v]

That felt obvious for her to say. When she said that it felt spoon fed to the audience

[@fredbloggs5902]

After seeing 12 Monkeys, it’s worth watching “La Jetee” (1962) by Chris Marker to experience the original inspiration.

[@fmellish71]

Better yet do what I did, wait a couple decades and forget that 12 Monkeys was an adaptation of La Jetee before you watch it

[@bespectacledheroine7292]

La Jetee is a beautiful but bewildering experience.

[@JackNapierDe]

And it's a quick watch with approx. 28 minutes. There are the french version with subtitles existing as well as an english dub.

[@letmadora28]

I was 22 un '97. I saw this movie in Theaters and It blew my mind. It was so different to the other Time travel movies. Terry Gilliam Is since then one of my favorite director.

[@DanJackson1977]

Gilliams "TIME BANDITS" still awaits. You'll definitely notice some visual themes crossing over from that to this.

[@jh5131]

Loved Time Bandits when I was a kid

[@windsaw151]

Two things always come to my mind in this movie. First: There are two time travel paradigms that I know of that do not allow paradoxes. On the one hand there is the parallel timeline paradigm that is usually too complicated to pull off propertly in a movie. The other is the fixed timeline paradigm that is used in 12 Monkeys. Its problem is that it mostly pervents happy ends. That is why movies usually chicken out and break that pardigm close to the end. This one didn't. Second: I am surprised that this movie didn't have a bad ending. Sure, it wasn't a happy one either, but he completed his mission. He located the source, the future scientist was brought in to study it. The people in the future can have hope again.

[@bellydansah]

yes

[@mahliz]

She works in insurances :D

[@ThunderbackOG]

@@mahliz She literaly is the insurance^^

[@crackajacka87]

The parallel universe paradigm isn't that hard to pull off and I'd argue is the easier one of the two to use as it allows greater flexibility in story telling whilst sidestepping and issues with paradoxes and makes better sense imo scientifically. A show I love and greatly respect that uses this is the anime Steins;Gate and I highly recommend it to people.

[@jamescurtis47]

In my interpretation it's kind of a mean ending, because the scientists decide to provoke James to get himself killed as they view him as a traitor. But it's also an a haunting bitter-sweet ending that brings the whole film together.

[@transformersrevenge9]

Random bit of trivia: Bruce Willis wasn't paid for the movie. His salary would have nearly doubled the film's budget, and he wanted to work with Terry Gilliam badly enough that he opted for a cut of the box office receipts instead.

[@johnsensebe3153]

I think it's possibly his best performance, too.

[@themoviedealers]

Which means he made the same amount, possibly more.

[@transformersrevenge9]

@@themoviedealers he still took a risk. If it would have been a bomb, then it would have been bad for him. Also, another actor who took the same approach was Obi Wan's actor from a new hope. He also agreed to a cut of the box office, rather than a regular pay check. And did he strike gold...

[@alexa.english174]

Gotta admit, David Morse is a pretty underrated actor!

[@dayceem]

It's pretty telling when he can creep you out in 12 Monkeys but is so comforting in Contact or The Green Mile.

[@cjkoehler]

"Primer" is one of the best time travel movies ever produced. It's a low budget masterpiece. Has one of my favorite time travel lines in a film "I'm hungry, I haven't eaten since later this afternoon."

[@lucyberlin3315]

Agreed. And 'the jacket' with Adrian Brody.

[@blueconlan9180]

I would also recommend the tv show. I loved that series. Not necessarily to react to but to just enjoy.

[@VividAbominations]

Fun fact. The head doctor in the psyche ward is played by Frank Gorshin. This film is full of riddles, and Gorshin is most famous for playing The Ridler in the original Batman TV series. Gilliam is such a genius, that he cast him knowing that people who watched that show, would recognize him, but wouldn't be able to place where they knew his face from.

[@nh3028]

Sci fi is somehow one of the best vehicles for character drama. Time travel allows so many opportunities to explore character choices.

[@billybatts8283]

Brilliant movie. The TV series based on this is also really good as well, much better than I expected it to be.

[@DarthMohammedRules]

They were never supposed to stop the cause of the plague from happening, and they even state that. That they can't change the past because it's already happened. Their purpose was to collect information from the past that could help them in the present (future). I believe this is one of the only time travel movies that actually gets it "right," and I feel that way because of the premise that they can't change anything. On a side note, this is the movie that really proved to me that Brad Pitt is a great actor.

[@finkelmana]

which doesnt make any sense, as traveling to the past changes it.

[@tanisdevelopment]

Even the studio's tagged-on ending doesn't ruin it. The scientist says she's in "insurance", but that doesn't mean she can stop it. She's just there to track the spread, which was always the purpose of the time excursions.

[@tanisdevelopment]

@@finkelmana - Not really. All these trips to the past had already happened, which is why James's childhood memory is his own death. Nothing changed that. And Kathryn recognised James because she had seen him in a photograph from WW1.

[@DarthMohammedRules]

@@finkelmana Literally everything in the movie happened like it did "the first time." That's why James has the childhood memory of seeing it all happen like that. Nothing changed. The events of his childhood. The plague that wiped out most of humanity. They didn't change anything. Everything happened that way because... *that's what happens.*

[@lawrenceschuman5354]

There's another scene where the science team lady from the future takes a seat next to plague guy on the plane. Their goal was to isolate the virus at it's source. So, presumably, mission accomplished. Don't remember if that is mid credits or a special cut version. Love this film so much. Pre DGAF Bruce Willis delivered great performances. Madeline Stowe I know previously from Last of the Mohicans. You should watch that, if you haven't.

[@morrisstewart1528]

I remember that scene and was waiting for it. Wander what happened to it.

[@torreyholmes7205]

When the female scientist from the future sits on the plane next to the guy who spread the virus, he asks, "What do you do?" and she says, "I'm in insurance". I think the idea is that once the source of virus has been identified (by Bruce) she makes sure that the spread never happens.

[@surfeit5910]

I was waiting for that scene too. As far as I could tell that one scene was the main goal of the entire plot; find the source, not stop it, or kill the carrier. I think ending it with that scene was one of the other critical aspects of this movie; showing that none of the main character's plight was in vain.

[@tanisdevelopment]

One of Gilliam's recurring ideas is having a character who'd rather be insane than deal with the real world: Jonathan Pryce in Brazil, Robin Williams in Fisher King, Willis in this one, et cetera.

[@Krytos911]

My interpretation of the movie, is that traveling back in time they couldn't change the past only bring items back to the future. So, James' story completed its loop while 1 of the scientists made contact with the origin of the virus so she could bring it back to the future to create a cure

[@calebclunie4001]

Thank You.

[@abinadvd]

Perhaps she will come back with the virus in her...

[@cpyt-o8s]

When I was 18 I tried to make some beats and ended up sampling some sounds and quotes from this movie, such as "We are all monkeys"

[@JoshuaC0rbit]

Don't stop trying to make beats... that's also a message to myself. You'll regret it if you don't stop trying.

[@JamesVSCinema]

Dude that would be fire! Great samples all over this film for you to pull!

[@JamesSmith144]

I remember when I first watched this, I was 16 and I was floored by the ending for about 5 minutes... just sat there with my jaw hanging... Terry Gilliam smashed it with this. I guess I just love when Bruce Willis time travels. Its my goto Sci fi to recommend people who want a Sci fi to watch... more people need to watch it

[@gordon861]

This is one of the rare films that really needs to be watched multiple times, it never gets old. Take another look at the insurance lady in the last scene, you cut it so probably missed the significance of it. They do state in the film that they cannot stop the virus, because if they do then they will never be around to stop the virus etc so paradox. The goal was to get a pure sample of the original virus so that a cure could be made in the future so that they could stop living underground. 12 Monkeys was made into a TV series (4 Seasons, 47 Episodes), they messed around with the story a lot but the main storyline is still there, and it is well worth a try when you finish one of your other shows you are doing right now. The series goes a lot deeper into the time travel part of the story.

[@morrisstewart1528]

Thanks. That scene with her on the plane next to the true villain sold this for me.

[@LexoG33]

I didn't know how I felt about this movie the first time I watched it, but I like it more and more. It's the kind of movie you don't want to watch when you are sick, not because the script can give you anxiety, but because the cinematography is purposefully disorienting. It's a great movie to re-watch.

[@claycook9475]

Finally! I've been requesting this for a while now; the music, the cinematography, the set and costume design, the way he leads you through what you think is going on until the final realization about what the opening shot depicted; so good.

[@JamesVSCinema]

Happy to have it up for ya brotha!

[@claycook9475]

@@JamesVSCinema I've really been enjoying your analytical views on so many great pieces of cinema. You've been so open to some real wild stuff, and you always pick up on key themes and ideas. Keep it up, we're all here for it.

[@justinpeck6015]

Love the movies that don't explain things to much, they just let you figure things out for your self. And just give you the basics

[@CurseDiscurse]

Wooo, this is one of my favourites! Terry Gilliam FTW! Consider doing Fisher King! Thanks!

[@JamesVSCinema]

He’s a beast!

[@DanielOrion74]

@@JamesVSCinema I second that the Fisher King is a must see. Robin Williams and Jeff Bridges at the peak of their game and iconic Terry Gilliam. Been mentioned already, but Adventures of Baron Von Munchausen and Time Bandits need to be on a list as well. Great reaction vid though; loved every minute of this.

[@Pengi_SMILES]

another fan of the Fisher King here. A brilliant film and a pair of incredible performances from Jeff Bridges and particularly Robin Williams- one of his best imo. Such an emotional and inventive film as well, off a lot of people's radars nowadays.

[@SierraSierraFoxtrot]

+1 for The Fisher King.

[@krono5el]

Mid 90s was when i noticed Pitt popping off with 12 monkeys, kalifornia, and interview with the vampire, he was killing it and continued too.

[@cappinjocj9316]

Patreon guys hitting for a home run again. Think your gonna dig this one mate.

[@JamesVSCinema]

Ayyyy they be killing it!

[@gggooding]

Made a 12 Monkeys stencil in art class when I was a kid right after seeing it in the theatre. Sprayed it all over the place in 1996. Not lying; I did it.

[@jasonegeland1446]

James, you're one of the most original reactors on KZbin! I've enjoyed your open-mindedness and your original commentary on your movie reactions! Thanks for keeping us entertained!:)

[@natedoggg2002]

Great reaction to one of my favorite movie. Brad Pitt actually won the Golden Globe for Best Supporting Actor for his performance in this film and also was nominated for a Oscar. Also I wonder did you notice before the end of the movie the scene where the science woman from the future sits next to the man on the plane carrying the virus? She tells him that her job is in "Insurance." So that suggest that she may have been able to stop him from spreading the virus after all and Bruce Willis death wasn't in vain.

[@cmo5173]

I think she always got on the plain. The virus will spread, but now they can study it in the future (their current time) and maybe find a cure. Still, Bruce Willis his death was not in vain, it was just something that always did and will happen in the time loop.

[@dariusamendolia6585]

Glad you finally got around to this one. It’s my favorite time travel movie. The 2nd and 3rd viewing, you will still be picking up even more stuff. It’s so cool, detailed, and layered.

[@protovision2010]

great movie + reaction! Another Gilliam classic! The guy is a madman/genius :) Definitely check out Gilliam's "The Fisher King"(1991), amazing performances by Robin Williams(!), Jeff Bridges, and an Oscar for Mercedes Ruehl :)

[@RSmith-qr4yw]

Yessss, had to come ASAP!

[@JamesVSCinema]

🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@kalandkarazor-el3088]

When this came out, the reviews were pretty mixed. And people I knew who saw it said it was terrible. So I avoided watching it until sometime in the 2000s And it's glorious!! I think people were confused so they said it was a bad movie. But it was a bit of a revelation for me both the movie and not listening to other people about creative work

[@Chrisratata]

A lot of times when the general public says a movie is horrible it just makes me more curious. People have a tendency to want things spoonfed to them

[@johntate6537]

@@Chrisratata I think some people (presumably like you and I, and this reactor) see art as something that can enrich our experience and broader our horizons, while others just want it to be something that switches off their brain and relieves them of the unpleasant necessity of thinking. I know which bit of society I'm glad to be a part of.

[@Chrisratata]

@@johntate6537 for sure... I just recently saw some video comments of people saying they'd avoided the show Lost for years, then finally sat down to watch it and kept waiting for it to get bad - all because tons of people had nothing but bad things to say about it - but that it was one of the most beautiful and enriching things they'd ever seen. Them discovering something meaningful for themselves is a beautiful thing. People get so caught up in understanding every detail of plot for plot's sake that they miss out on deeper things like character dynamics and symbolism being vehicles for theme. It's fine for people to like or not like whatever they do - mindless entertainment after a stressful day has value, sure. It just kinda pisses me off when people feel like they have to inflict their distaste for something onto others, as if they hold some authority over what isn't great and anyone that disagrees "can't possibly think that's any good." Let people enjoy whatever they enjoy and decide for themselves

[@MarkTordai]

Yes! One of my favs of all time,. I saw it opening weekend with my parents. I was only 12 and it blew my mind. Great pick James.

[@MDBowron]

if you like mind-bending time travel you might like 2014's "Predestination" which is an Australian film, set in the US, based off Robert A Heinlein's 1959 short story "-All You Zombies-"

[@Daveyboy100880]

Such a wonderful movie, on every level! I first saw it a year or two after it came out, and I immediately "got" it. I was right there for every twist and turn, completely immersed in the world Gilliam created. I got chills when Katherine finds the old photo and realises where she knew James from, and the ending, man... Top tier film making. I think it's one of the only time travel movies that actually makes some kind of logical sense, and I love that you called out that there was no get-out-of-jail-free card. So many time travel movies try to have their cake and eat it, but 12 Monkeys didn't betray its own rules by having a happy ending, or even a compromise ending. It sticks to the rules it set out, and even though right up until the end we can hope that maybe things will work out, you eventually realise that we already know what happens. We saw the end in the opening scene. Bruce Willis doesn't save the day. The virus still gets out. What's done is done, and one can only hope that things work out in the future. I've also got to say, it's nice when a movie star's ego doesn't ruin things. How many Hollywood leading men would have tried to have the end rewritten so that they win (I've read many stories of that happening!)? Kudos to Bruce Willis, who had enough star power to change things if he wanted, for putting the story first. His performance is magnificent, a career best, and I'm glad that the film was a success... and that you enjoyed it, James!

[@Pharmerlynda]

My favorite time traveling movie of all time….

[@darrinfi3716]

I remember walking out of the theatre dumbfounded. Loved it, and still do. Keep up the great work, James!

[@adamthrasher9915]

Pitt kills this role, wouldn't have worked without him. I remember seeing this movie in theaters and was mind blown. Still one of my favorite sci Fi movies and your channel is my favorite to watch. Yours and Brandon's

[@JoshuaC0rbit]

Yes sir it's about time you got around to this my brother. ;)

[@JamesVSCinema]

Damn straight

[@jmuench420]

I'm consistently surprised by some of the movies you haven't seen. Just this week Misery and 12 Monkeys, two movies I wouldn't have even recommended out the assumption you've seen them. Glad to see you getting through all these.

[@RamblingRose08]

One of my favorite movies. Thank you for a great reaction!

[@bigneon_glitter]

For more top Gilliam, be sure to check out 1989's _The Adventures Of Baron Munchausen_ - one of his best.

[@kingfield99]

Famously the film that bankrupted a movie studio.

[@marcoadan1]

When he hears the song 'Blueberry Hill' in the car...the look on his face and the tears in his eyes...no words, just a few seconds of facial expression and music, and some of the best acting I've seen from Bruce Willis.

[@escapingreality3306]

Brings back memories (no pun intended). Rented this on video decades ago and watched with my mate. We didn't have a clue what was going on until near the end, which is when we saw how clever the film is. Terry is still making movies: The man who killed Don Quixotic shows he is back on form, with gorgeous visuals. I'd recommend watching 'Lost in La Mancha' which is a behind the scenes of his prev failed attempt to make it. Practically everything that could go wrong, did go wrong. It also gets a bit more in the mind of this crazy genius directors, and shows some of his filming techniques. As you are a filmmaker James you might enjoy and emphasise with Terry's struggles to get his creations produced.

[@davida.j.berner776]

Definitely one of my favourite films of all time. Tied with 2001: A Space Odyssey as my favourite SciFi film. Not one wasted scene or line of dialogue. So many tiny details that seem almost irrelevant, just included to help set the scene or establish the atmosphere, and they all end up tying in perfectly to the central plot. Not sure if it's the only one, but definitely one of a very few time-travel films that acknowledges the past can't be changed, and doesn't try to resolve that by introducing parallel time-lines or paradoxes. As much as I love Brazil, in my opinion this is Gilliams's masterpiece.

[@ramudon2428]

I love that the pimp takes his time to hang his coat on the hanger and just drops it on the floor. Plus his later description of the pair also demands a chuckle every time.

[@eZTarg8mk2]

i'd highly recommend watching the documentary "The Hamster Factor". Gilliam invited 2 film students to follow the shoot of this and document it. Very cool film too, and named because a single shot had a hamster wheel in the corner as part of the decontamination machine, and Gilliiam wanted it to run in the wheel. he took nearly 100 takes (if memory serves) for a 5 or so second shot. There's a follow up film they did, following Gilliam again on his cancelled film about Don Quixote, it's called Lost in La Mancha. Even if you don't do a react to these, they're worth watching XD

[@Chrisratata]

Wasn't the issue with the hamster too that it wasn't even in frame...?

[@eZTarg8mk2]

@@Chrisratata barely in frame, it is visible, but it's such a tiny detail amongst the chaos of the machinary

[@SierraSierraFoxtrot]

Wow I never knew about this documentary, gotta watch that!

[@Angus2067]

Yeah, totally agree. The best behind the scenes of a movie I have seen. A real warts and all look at the making of the film.

[@calebclunie4001]

"The Man Who Killed Don Quixote", did get made, eventually. Was that on this timeline?

[@MrDeadstu]

James, if you are looking for serious Science Fiction, you would really dig "Dark City" (1998) but you MUST 100% watch the Director's Cut, it is re-cut to remove a serious spoiler and have a more impactful reveal and is slightly longer. Visual extravaganza.

[@insaned4666]

One of my favorite movies and favorite directors ever. One of the few movies in my life that I IMMEDIATELY had to watch it again … back to back!

[@brianhansen6189]

The film leads the league in goosebump scenes

[@AprilLaRae]

The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus is an amazing film!!!

[@vallara1974]

Haha, I think one of my first thoughts watching this movie for the first time was "gosh Bruce Willis and Brad Pitt are actually good actors!!!!" because they had been in fun stuff at that time but never really had the chance to show all their potential. The other thought was that I really do appreciate the style of Terry Gilliam, letting us doubt what we are seeing and question it along with the protagonists. It is refusing to hold your hand in the best way possible imo

[@SierraSierraFoxtrot]

Because you've never seen his breakout role in the TV show "Moonlighting", he was known as a comedic actor until Die Hard made into an action star, an image he had to shake with movies like this.

[@harrymc9263]

Thanks for reminding me of this, must watch again

[@JamesVSCinema]

Always brotha!

[@GrimrDirge]

I distinctly remember seeing this in the theater on a double date in 95. We sat in a Blueberry Hill Restaurant in Las Vegas until about 3 in the morning, just talking about the movie, trying to sort it all out, and praising the actors. Brad Pit at his absolute best.

[@calebclunie4001]

That's the song playing on the car radio. Fats Domino - "Blueberry Hill".

[@gamleoslo]

I love that you still seem to be working through my DVD-collection. Some titles I'm looking forward to: "Cinema Paradiso", "Smoke" and/or "Blue in the face", Avalon (Mamoru Oshii) and "Mitt liv som hund" (My life as a dog). Keep rockin', James!

[@pnwajs3532]

Back when this film first released it inspired me like no other. I always loved film and had many favorites, but this was the first to really get my mind going and helped shape my writing and creative process.

[@Anthony-dg3dt]

If you like this film, you should check out "Source Code" (2011) with Jake Gyllenhaal. It has a somewhat similar take on time travel but a much different ending.

[@snowflakepillow8697]

@23:18 the musical cue there is "Scene D'amour" from the score to Hitchcock's Vertigo.

[@ssstbc]

12 Monkeys and Primer are the two best time travel movies ever IMO...the idea that time travel changes nothing, but can cause the very thing you're trying to stop...mind crushing greatness!

[@justinpeck6015]

One of my favorite sci-fi movies is "Screamers" i forgot his name but the guy that played Robocop stars in it. "Alien Nation" is another one i really like, James Caan stars in it. I tried to think of ones that are lesser known lol.

[@calebclunie4001]

Peter Weller ("Robocop") was in "Screamers". That was shot, at the old Montreal Expos stadium. Amazing, how architecture becomes a crucial element, to enhance the sci-fi feel.

[@thomassmith6232]

This is my second favorite time travel movie because it has no paradox. My favorite is Predestination.

[@JamesVSCinema]

It’s so damn good!

[@MP197742]

The Terminator, on its own without sequels, is paradox free.

[@bellydansah]

@@MP197742 the reason I hate all of the sequels haha

[@MamadNobari]

@@MP197742 Bruh isn't Terminator's story literally the most giant fuckin time loop paradox ever?

[@MP197742]

@@MamadNobari There is no paradox in a loop. They didn’t change anything. They perfectly created/recreated, right down to the dog photo, the same timeline they came from. It’s not a paradox. It does create the question of what would happen if you traveled back within your own past, not your mother’s, and deliberately tried to change things, with full knowledge of that time. Would it just malfunction and kill you. Would you simply fail so badly that no change was made? But the suggestion of the loop is that the tapestry of time is immutable. That Kyle did always go back, would always go back, has always gone back, and always creates John. Essentially that free will is an illusion. It also means that Skynet, in trying to destroy John before he was born, is inadvertently responsible for creating John, because their action is why Kyle gets sent back. Mind fuck? Sure. Paradox? No.

[@danwest9900]

James - I can't tell for sure, but it looks like the ending of this version may be different from the version I saw. In the end, the lady scientist is on the plane sitting right next to the guy carrying the virus. The two briefly talk and the scene ends after she says that she works in insurance. I had read before that Gilliam originally wanted the film to end with the shot of young James' eyes. However, I believe that the studio folks wanted a more determined ending. I guess the idea is that the lady scientist kills the virus dude and stops it's release thereby acting as an "insurance" policy in to stop the guy because all their other attempts failed.

[@natedoggg2002]

EXACTLY!

[@jeanlafayette7152]

She was there to get an unmutated sample of the virus, not to prevent its release.

[@danwest9900]

@@jeanlafayette7152 Oh, right on. And then they come up with a cure, I suppose. What a great movie!

[@debbyemerson3877]

Best. I've watched just a few of your reactions, but this is just about my favorite movie. You nailed it - all of it. Kudos. Subscribed.

[@AlexanderShackles]

11:54 "Could you imagine, dude? Like, if Jesus was a time-traveller?" May I suggest "The Man from Earth" as a potential film to react to? A short synopsis: A man who is retiring from a career in teaching is hosting a going-away party with his colleagues. As they get to talking, and his colleagues continue to ask him what he'll be doing and why he has always been so secretive, he reveals that he is actually an immortal prehistoric man who has lived through the centuries. The entire film takes place in one room, through exposition given by the main character, answering questions from his colleagues.

[@MMmmmVarley]

Very happy to see someone else suggesting "The Man from Earth". Yes, please, and thank you.

[@texantompaine4509]

Another sort of spin-off on that thought would be the one-season Netflix series Messiah. In essence - a guy shows up out of nowhere and starts doing crazy things. Some believe he's the return of Jesus, some believe he's a terrorist, and some believe he's a conman. The show never answers. Because it's being told through the perspective of those around him, it leaves the audience to base their guess on the evidence in all directions the show provides. Fun, thought-provoking, and an exploration on how the world (governments and individuals) would react to such an event.

[@ianhamilton2035]

One of my favorites! Love the paradox of time travel, Not that you would, but a couple of my other favorite time travel movies are, "The Final Countdown", and a Steven King adaption that most people hate, "The Langoliers"! 😃

[@CrimsonJackal]

One of my all time favourites! So glad you got to see it too, dude! Not sure if you were already aware but Terry directed all the Monty Python movies too, not just the animations! You need to see all his movies, the guy is a genius! 😁

[@Uncle_T]

Yes! Such a brilliant, wonderful, weird and multi-layered movie. And some great acting all around but I do love me some crazy *ss Brad Pitt! 😁 You NEED to watch Gilliam's The Fisher King too!

[@cynister7355]

Big yes to Fisher King

[@redswasted8624]

@@cynister7355 I concur, The Fisher King is one of my favourite films

[@richardbrown5670]

This is one of those movies where the more you watch it the more you get watching it over and over again

[@sdaniels160]

I was living in the run down neighborhood in Philly where they filmed much of this movie. The sad thing is that they didn't have to do to much to make it look postapocalyptic.

[@leob4403]

Where was that, Kensington?

[@sdaniels160]

@@leob4403 It was filmed in an abandoned theater that had been turned in to a church for a short time. It was a block away from the Richard Allen Project in North Philly just north of City Hall. The had the whole block wrapped in that plastic the use around scaffolding when it's windy. They were there for about a month and a half.

[@evansmith6552]

Didn't expect the Blame! reference - damn incredible manga. Mind-blowing sense of scale.

[@JamesVSCinema]

Exactly! You get my reference then!

[@robertdonaldson5029]

This is a wild ride. Glad you covered it. Cheers man!

[@jeanlafayette7152]

I watched this in the cinema with a friend. For about half the journey home afterwards we were too stunned to even discuss what we'd just seen. If you know Spanish or can cope with subtitles, _Timecrimes_ (aka _Los Cronocrimenes_ ) is another time travel film worth checking out.

[@SierraSierraFoxtrot]

Los Cronorimenes is a must watch for any fan of scifi, time travel, or horror.

[@pedantech]

Finally, a 12 Monkeys reaction!

[@jimtatro6550]

“Get out of my chair!!!!!” Brad Pitt is awesome in this.😂😂😂👍

[@michaelriddick7116]

Fantastic movie!! Pitt's acting is AMAZING! 😂🤣 I think its his best! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻😎

[@Uncle_T]

James' face when the scientists sang Blueberry Hill!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@andrewreisinger6860]

Great use of Bernarrd Hermann's music from "Verigo". Probably the greatest film score EVER.

[@SupraJulie]

Brad Pitt's depiction of someone in the manic state of bipolar disorder was so spot on the mental hospital scene was actually used while I was studying psychology in college.

[@phillybm]

Love your reviews and great that you did this movie. That jawn is awesome! Was waiting for your reaction when you saw that it was shot in Philly.

[@JamesVSCinema]

Yeah brotha! Hahaha had no idea!

[@phillybm]

@@JamesVSCinema Saw another of your reviews and you mentioned Wawa! Thought, 'Ah, Philly in the house!'

[@fmellish71]

Another one of those movies that I was probably too young to watch, but I played my used Blockbuster VHS copy of it many, many times. I even remember stupidly trying to to pick off the security sticker on the side of the tape and the thin metal strip stabbing under my fingernail. Not only that, but come to think of it, I don't think I quite understood what a pimp was then and just accepted him as just a random guy who barges in for no reason that I cared to know of at the time and thinking of that is kind of tripping me out right now. I guess technically Holy Grail was my intro to Gilliam, but outside of Python, its this.

[@blissblissbliss]

The scene when she finds the photo from WW1 is so damn emotional, I almost get teary eyed each time. For more time travel goodness, watch "PRIMER"!

[@SierraSierraFoxtrot]

Madeleine Stowe doesn't get enough credit IMHO for her work in this movie. This movie wouldn't have worked without her.

[@richieclean]

I'm so excited for this reaction!

[@NativeNewMexican]

When it comes to time travel movies, this is one of the best at "keeping the rules". Other movies that do this well and have something excellent to offer are: Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure, Timecrimes (spanish), Primer, and Edge of Tomorrow. I know you've seen Edge, but you should really check out the others if you haven't seen them. Primer is the most cerebral, but weakest of the bunch in my opinion.

[@redmoonbloodmoon3161]

good time-travel and/or related-to-time-or-involving-time movies: (not ranked, just listed) 1. 12 Monkeys 2. Minority Report 3. Edge of Tomorrow 4. Groundhog Day 5. The Butterfly Effect 6. Deja Vu 7. The Time Machine 8. Oblivion 9. Back to the Future trilogy 10. The Matrix trilogy 11. Looper 12. Terminator franchise 13. Source Code 14. A Sound of Thunder 15. Flight of the Navigator

[@billhicks6449]

Looper is also very well done.

[@stanmann356]

Though B&TEV was indeed a bodacious and most excellent movie, I'm curious why you feel it was notable for "keeping the rules" of time travel. In 12 Monkeys the "rule" was anything that happened as a result of someone going back in time had already happened and nothing could be changed. In Bill & Ted they went back and brought people from the past to the present, and then took them back. Obviously that did not already happen in the past, if for no other reason than the fact that Napoleon isn't remembered as the inventor of the water slide.

[@Vleeslucht]

Predestination is the most mind-blowing time travel movie

[@NativeNewMexican]

@@stanmann356 that didn't violate the ruleset they established, which was different than 12 Monkeys. Being able to do things like "keys" is a cool time travel mechanic and it was consistent throughout the movie.

[@boostphone4726]

I know others most likely have pointed this out but the director Terry Gilliam was also a member of Monty Python. He worked mostly behind the camera and did all their animation.

[@skatemetrix]

The best science fiction film of the 1990s.

[@justinpeck6015]

🤙 Another one of my favorite movies. Love these kind of movies.

[@less_likely]

I saw this movie as a teenager and 25 years later it is still my allotment favorite

[@RebeccaODonnell-1941]

This is my favorite Gillian film and my favorite time travel movie. Masterpiece.

[@marekmarecki6248]

Lets go guys- 100k is close!

[@JamesVSCinema]

Crazy right!?

[@SuburbanSavage]

I used to work at the Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia and on several occasions, animals got loose when the circus was in. They could never get the trucks into the center properly, so I've seen many animals run down Broad St. Also, David Morse (the dude who released the virus) lives in Philadelphia and is hella cool!

[@rayhutchinson640]

They didn't prevent it, but they did retrieve a sample with which they hoped to cure it or vaccinate against it in the future. All of James' efforts successfully lead to the woman scientist from the future getting that seat on the plane next to the pandemic villain! Another great reaction to a great piece of film history!

[@steved1135]

Oh James good sir... Bless you for doing another Terry Gilliam Movie. While not for everyone, he is a truly original visionary director. And I love this story, and the acting as well. Brad Pitt... gotta admit it... genius in this one. Bravo.

[@HeyRubeProductions]

The same guy who wrote this, wrote Unforgiven (1992). This is why David Webb Peoples is one of my favs.

[@elih9700]

Narration in tune with the background music, nice touch, a cadence.

[@steelekeepinitreel4909]

Never really understood this movie until i watched it with closed captioning on. Mind blown!

[@Drawkcabi]

I saw this in the theater when it came out and really thought it was great! I love time travel stories and the atmosphere and style of this movie captivated me. It's not my favorite time travel movie though. Nothing can beat the Back to the Future trilogy for me. Other time travel or time travel-ish movies I love: Predestination Looper Frequency Edge Of Tomorrow (Live, Die, Repeat) Groundhog Day Source Code 12:01 Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure Hot Tub Time Machine Timecop Flight Of the Navigator The Terminator Terminator 2 About Time Millennium Primer Peggy Sue Got Married Late For Dinner Paycheck The Time Machine (1960) The Time Machine (2002) The Time Traveler's Wife (Yes I read the book, the book is much better, but I still like the movie.) Other Science Fiction movies I love: 2001: A Space Odyssey 2010 The Star Trek movies Galaxyquest The Last Starfighter Demolition Man The Island The 6th Day Innerspace Interstellar Inception Cocoon Alien Aliens Tron The Black Hole Total Recall (1990) Starship Troopers A.I. E.T. Short Circuit Close.Encounters of the Third Kind Enemy Mine Stargate Independence Day The Matrix The Thirteenth Floor Dark City Oblivion The Fifth Element Explorers Logan's Run Ready Player One Best Regards!