Film Theory: How Much is YOUR SOUL Worth? (Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood)

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People often say that you can’t quantify the worth of human life, but if FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST can, then so can I! Get ready, Theorists, because we’re investigating philosopher’s stones to determine the power of the human soul!
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[@nino0365]

The Film Theorists you should do how much money did phineas and ferb has spent during their summer.

[@beefnoodlegaming]

OMG THAT WOULD BE AMAZING!

[@user-dq5xg2zk8j]

Yes .. YES PLZ

[@user-dq5xg2zk8j]

Those two mustve spent more monwy than exist in our world

[@Areinu]

With Phineas and Ferb there is enough theory fodder to create whole channel and sustain it for years.

[@rpk6639]

Guy Nino I THOUGHT OF THE SAME THING BUT THE QUESTION"how rich is phineas and ferb?".

[@graceprice1035]

Fun fact the English voice actors of Roy Mustang and Lust are married those arguements must be fun

[@actualhumanraccoon9326]

Trumbus Wumblehunk and Llama Barley if I remember correctly.

[@devongene9584]

they're WHAT

[@MarcosVinicius-mp7xu]

Travis Willingham and Laura Bailey, they're awesome

[@ermacmacro7136]

Fjord and Jester

[@tuna393]

I saw a comment saying that travis would go out of the room because he couldn’t bear hearing his wife scream when she voiced lust in agony

[@LTCloud9]

You forgot to take into consideration how much energy Lust uses to regenerate her Giorgio Armani low cut designer dress.

[@sophiea7]

Underrated comment

[@antoinepolnareff8970]

That only weigth for like 2 extra Kg

[@coffeecoffee2096]

@@antoinepolnareff8970 i dont tink clothing would weight 2 kg more like idk(500gr-700gr)

[@antoinepolnareff8970]

@@coffeecoffee2096 It was a complet Gala dress with his respective bra and briefs. That's a lot more heavy than normal clothes

[@coffeecoffee2096]

@@antoinepolnareff8970 oh ok

[@asianpersuasian3758]

Matpat, applying science to a show where the main antagonist swallows god and a teenager still beats him

[@gavinbrown216]

To be fair, he could barely control god at that point and he was turned into graphite

[@Pokreal]

Yeah, but let’s not forget he’s a 🧚magical boy 🧚

[@churchill903]

@@Pokreal I like your funny words magic man

[@Pokreal]

@@churchill903 BAHAHA

[@BookEatPeople]

Ah yes anime logic

[@dustypaladin9216]

Is no one going to mention the fact that king bradly is not immortal. It was a major thing that bradly could age and couldn’t regenerate and that flaw is the only reason that he was killed.

[@Merennulli]

That wasn't a limitation of the stone, but a limitation of his human body. The same was likely going to be true of Greed.

[@Ivhn]

Ik this is late but nobody mentioned that each homunculus got a different amount of souls so his calculation of Lust's amount of soul is wrong Lmao

[@Merennulli]

@@Ivhn We actually don't have any confirmation on the number each received and he does mention in the video that he's assuming an equal number based on his own rationale.

[@Sesshomaru474]

@@Merennulli "That means each homunculus contains exactly 1/14th of souls that Father started with." His assumption was that it was divided by 14 for the 7 sins and 7 virtues. He made no assumptions that each 7 sin got the same amount and there is a confirmation with King Bradly, didn't he mention how many souls he had to fight to keep ownership of the body? Also he doesn't count the fact how many times Lust has died beforehand.

[@Merennulli]

@@Sesshomaru474 8:39 "so we can assume-" he directly states that it's an assumption that the vices and virtues are equal and thus each of the 14 divisions are equal. Bradley didn't give a specific number. In Episode 26, Bradley calls them "countless" in the dub and "many" in the sub translations. Quite frankly, there's nothing to go off of one way or another to contradict or support his assumption. We know Father is stronger than Hoenheim since Hoenheim allegedly isn't good at fighting and has deposited an unknown number of philosopher stone souls to make his own circle, we know he had humans sacrificed for other experiments and could have added to his own stone over the years. We know he's been powering alchemy for all of Amestris. We know he created his own body the first time and like Hoenheim, his body hadn't aged before creating the Homunculi. We also don't see him suddenly become greedy when re-absorbing the first Greed. We don't know how many times he or Lust died prior to the series or what the running cost is. There are simply too many unknowns. But the assumptions Matpat made are plainly stated. We know it can't be accurate because of the unknowns, but he worked with what he had to make something he thought would be entertaining. We. All. Know. This. That's the baseline assumption for this, or any other analysis of fiction, that the one speaking can only be as accurate as his assumptions and what the series gives us. And like most fiction, FMA plays fast and loose with the numbers. While it gives an exact number of souls in Hoenheim, every division is an unknown number, every power use is different enough not to give a baseline, and we have no idea how many other incidents they have been through or what their work costs them. A few examples: Sloth dies far more easily but has far more mass and has just spent a long time manually digging a tunnel. Pride is the "most powerful". Pride and Gluttony consume people, potentially adding to their power source. Gluttony was a failed experiment to create an eye of truth that has opened on a few occasions and connects to a void world of blood and ruins. Envy gets his powers back after being defeated through what should be far smaller stones, and survives without a stone because he's different in a vague way. There's no comparing energy use in-universe, so all he can work with is his assumption.

[@someone4650]

Souls are expensive, they cost like an arm and a leg And like 1 whole brother too.

[@thethunderdrone7256]

Some One lol

[@thebigshit3962]

Stolen Jokes... get worse each time they are told

[@someone4650]

I'mBored Hey, why don't you come up with one then :P

[@pokechatter]

Actually, the arm was just the price to attach Al's soul to the armor.

[@Dinkerdoodle]

too soon

[@aidanbeesley3221]

Minor problem with MatPat’s Math: Lust actually regenerates 11 times, two before the great roast

[@davidmcfall9169]

three, actually, if you count the time mayes hughes daggers her face.

[@narutogon2306]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKvQfY1qhK17j80 He doesnt really know Im doing this anyway it's about hunter x hunter opening with fullmetal alchemist opening melissa. By any chance don't spread dislike? Only send this a couple of times and that is one of the reasons why I stopped watching him, his theories are mostly wrong

[@robbieaulia6462]

"the great roast" That made my day, thank you.

[@fin5887]

I think the value of a soul would probably be closer to 490 terajoules, to account for that and any other off screen regeneration

[@snurt256]

Immortality in various anime: -Seven orbs of literally just being the Triforce but in more pieces -Stealing human souls -A power that has all the other powers -Literally a rock in the shape of a face

[@caleblange2213]

Yo angelo

[@samt3412]

What's poppin my anime Aussie

[@akumaking1]

So no phylacteries?

[@sugnoma667]

With spikes don't forget the spikes

[@Shimanas527]

in the first Legend of Zelda there were 9 triforce pieces

[@lival2381]

Actually, Lust died many times before that episode, so that complicates the calculations.

[@x-wing9805]

@@risulomusic maybe she died many times before the series

[@nobleokami9746]

No one care

[@reportsoldier1636]

roy brown stop acting like a normie

[@Shadowll101]

Risulo Risulo She still has to heal those stabs, so souls wasted. And that new number can mean quite a lot and can show that souls contains much more power/energy than Mat’s current calculations.

[@bobbybobertson9738]

she was most likely killed and stabbed a lot more than what was shown on screen as well

[@ilikenougat8892]

Can we appreciate how Roy could kill 4,256 people with ONE BLAST!?

[@Shadowbuster-if7ui]

Isn't that what he was doing on war anyway many times?

[@inanjarif1388]

Aren't those people already dead? Y'know,with the whole "soul sacrifice" thing?

[@Shane_A_M]

I’m sure the ishfallens do

[@melanierose4140]

@@inanjarif1388 In the philosopher's stone? No, not really. Ed's father talked to them and convinced them to help him defeat father. He mentions in the video his father talked to the people inside him.

[@sabrinaattwood510]

Well souls not people

[@rikacheer]

Maybe I'm an idiot, but Lust's fight with Mustang wasn't the only time she took damage. If we're assuming souls are used up when they're used to heal, she would have less than the 38,000 at the beginning of the fight. Technically, depending on if she took damage off screen, she could have a LOT less. So, There is still hope for you, Immortal Theorist.

[@RMills646]

And as well the homunculi have been around for centuries, so surely a lot of souls were used up in that time too

[@Yashael341]

Perhaps it's not that the souls themselves are used up, but that their energy is consumed. He might better have said some odd number "souls' worth of energy". I make this distinction because there is the possibility that she's restoring her energy (but not the souls. Or maybe the souls?) through some unknown means. It's been a long time since I've watched the show, but this is my explanation as to why Matpat can make his calculation from one scene. Just one more thing to consider.

[@rollercoasterwolfboy6795]

@@Yashael341 But You should take into account that a philosopher stone stores the souls as energy, thus, the amount souls and energy are equivalent (because they are the same thing). So, the more energy Lust consumes the more souls she’s using up. We also know that she has to consume those souls to stay alive for that long and to transmute, so the amount of souls Roy would have consumed would’ve been far less than what Mat had calculated, regardless.

[@V1G4M1]

Yeah, like just earlier for example he ripped the stone out of her, destroying 1 whole body as well

[@Yashael341]

We can argue equivalency of souls and energy (actually this argument convinced me to rewatch the series, I'm just not to that point yet), but the point still stands that in the intervening years, the homunculi may have "replenished" their energy somehow. I don't think it was ever stated that they only had what was contained in their stones at conception. If so, I'm sure they would've used that all up just living as long as they did. MatPat had to make at least some assumptions here in order to have anything to calculate at all.

[@11338325]

Just wanted to add that while Father (aka Homunculus) TRIED to purge himself of the Seven Deadly Sins (heavy emphasis on TRIED), he still retained a trace amount of them: He desires for becoming a perfect being (Lust); devours souls with no self-control (Gluttony); seeks power at all costs (Greed); prefers to let others do his bidding for him while being incredibly incompetent and doing little to nothing to further his own goals over hundreds of years (Sloth); feels anger towards any opposition, principally Hohenheim (Wrath); has a desire for a family like humans (Envy); views humans as "ants" (Pride). However, given the general vagueness of these behaviors, as well as his dispassionate demeanor compared to both prior to the creation of and after the death of the homunculi, seems to imply that he did get himself purged of his sins.

[@SomeoneYouDontKnowOfficial]

I'm glad you made this, time to see if I got ripped off when people sold me their souls...

[@zap4th368]

lucifer?

[@Celemimphar]

No, it's Someone You Don't Know. (/s)

[@SomeoneYouDontKnowOfficial]

Dang, 654 Terajoules per soul?! And I was at 1st thinking I got the short end of the stick!

[@soulfularts6088]

Someone You Don't Know 😭😂

[@SomeoneYouDontKnowOfficial]

zap 4th not yet ;)

[@supercanadian0640]

According to Mr. Krabs, 62 cents

[@strongraider1014]

The Ace Of Spades best comment I've seen this week

[@zzbo2334]

The Ace Of Spades here before 500 likes

[@animation4blueberrywolfsyu250]

Comment of the month

[@mjod3668]

The Film Theorists _ go away

[@bloodstoneore4630]

The Ace Of Spades 62 cents

[@oliverniemann2541]

Matpat: “that more closely follows the original comic.” Manga fans: so you have chosen death.

[@Courtney-dg9iq]

I knew it was coming and it still hurt

[@kwabzycomposer]

I mean factually MatPat is still correct so idk how to feel ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@carmelorosario155]

They'll call it "uncultured" despite it being the same thing, just in a different language.

[@PercyKqv]

hey cmon, we're not that bad. We would've just politely corrected him (Read: gave him millions of articles telling him how manga and comics aren't the same thing)

[@cyberous775]

Pulls out Kirito swords

[@Bransbow]

MatPat: *makes 15 minute theory about how Ed's human formula is completely wrong and could never make a human* Also MatPat (4:52): "It matches real life one for one!"

[@SimplyTato]

for real ;d

[@milkwoman8133]

I think he means the elements included, not the amount of each lol

[@mukasafatima4327]

finally someone points it out, i was going crazy

[@SW-rd6bg]

Haha the humans in our world and the FMA world are the same. Ed and Al’s breakdown of the components of those bodies are what’s wrong (just like how ppl thought the Sun moved around the earth. Just because it’s the commonly accepted knowledge of the time doesn’t mean it was scientifically accurate to reality)

[@viktorichannel2116]

I love how Mattpat uses soul eater souls for this

[@chrisdenke2914]

Same

[@Sparrow_Bloodhunter]

I miss soul eater, I hope it comes back eventually

[@chrisdenke2914]

@@Sparrow_Bloodhunter amen

[@Sparrow_Bloodhunter]

@@chrisdenke2914 so I looked it up, the average 13 episode anime costs 2 million dollars to produce. soul eater was a 50 episode series meaning it likely costed 10 million to make. now if they choose to remake it like they did with fullmetal alchemist brotherhood they'd likely have to double it's runtime to fit all the content that is missing from the manga, therefore it would likely cost 20 million dollars to produce a 100 episode remake of soul eater. if you happen to know any millionair weebs maybe try asking them to remake it, unfortunately I only know poor people.

[@chrisdenke2914]

@@Sparrow_Bloodhunter nice math my guy

[@gameherom8091]

"Of course this wasn't what the creator intended, but damn it, we're exploring it anyway" 10/10

[@helenwalter6830]

I feel like the 'insurmountable cost of a human soul' is the philosophical point of the show- and also that humanity is strong because of their ability to connect with others and grow as people.

[@itachiswill5263]

"wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah.....SPOILERS!" *Saves to watch later*

[@clouddd8053]

...does that mean you watched Brotherhood by now? Because it's amazing

[@itachiswill5263]

@@clouddd8053 yes, and it easily ranks in my top three anime of all time

[@clouddd8053]

@@itachiswill5263 thats good news! I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😃

[@Yuushiinix]

"Pretty intense spoilers." Whoops, lemme go watch Brotherhood for the 5th time just so I'm ready.

[@MrHaganenoEdward]

5th time? Noob.

[@chillsahoy2640]

Ed...ward?

[@Punaparta]

I mean, it's an excellent story, so going over it again isn't even a path that you'd regret. Although I prefer the manga.

[@Punaparta]

How do you watch a 64-episode anime by accident?

[@jadedfire4351]

AstroLuxray same XD

[@glassy5350]

Voldemort :- why didn't I think of that Me:- that's why I told you subscribe to the film theorists

[@spider-manys2934]

Thats what i told him

[@lunauuray559]

He never listens

[@FlorianFlorian573]

Um he did. Remember the first book. (This is a joke)

[@ilik3ducks89]

BlackSlayer - GAMER he did try that it’s just that he was literally out getting the philosopher stone in the dirt Harry Potter book/movie

[@windums560]

Maybe he did lose his ears to

[@AjTheCrayon]

no one literally no one. Matpat: Na-rud-oooo

[@hewhoyeet4953]

Its accent, you cant just expect people that arent native speaker to some language to spell every words right. Thats just wrong, the only thing we can do is teach them the right way, not joking about it. Yeah i know you probably made this comment as a joke but for me this kind of thing is a problem to our community. But hey its just a theory, A FILM THEORY

[@AjTheCrayon]

I'm fully aware of that fact now- a year later- from when this comment was made. I originally made it as a joke. And I agree it is a problem in the anime community.

[@oliguy9886]

ok but like this is incredibly inaccurate, the hummonculi constantly feed off of the stone to stay alive and every time lust has used her powers, every second she's existed and every time she's died has slowly been draining her stone, so we can't know for sure how much a soul is really worth plus, roy burned her before she fully regenerated every single blast

[@nataliyahpastel3890]

Mine is worth 2¢ and a piece of gum

[@Endershock1678]

Nataliyah Pastel Hey, at least you have one!

[@Ezmene]

Nataliyah Pastel finally something I can afford

[@tylerkidoivxmi7826]

Endershock1678 unlike me

[@soulinavatar8]

A whole 2 cents huh?

[@steviemaster]

bought and i give you a pidgey pokémon card for it too!

[@alexodom358]

didn't you forget to calculate the energy loss over the years before the series began and the energy spent on all of her regenerations during the show?

[@Warriorette12]

Alex Odom The only thing that changes is that his calculations only result in the MINIMUM amount of energy, which still isn’t a bad baseline to calculate

[@alyssahayes1716]

Plus if it’s adding mass would her stabby fingers use up souls?

[@Euphoria965]

That would barely add up to anything

[@davidcaldwell6651]

If that was true, it would actually increase the power of souls, by lowering the amount used up to do the same task, meaning there would be more power per soul in that case.

[@youtubestuff683]

She did die a couple times before mustang killed her

[@angelicae.hernandez1315]

So what you're telling me is that I can make a small Philosopher's Stone with a decent amount of Uranium and knowledge about transmutation. Good to know.

[@elishamasih8145]

😰

[@HyrannoCraft]

At least a pseudo philosophers Stone..

[@springtrap8434]

you WHAT

[@E.S.A.M]

Good luck finding that Uranium lol

[@Raymics]

Although the calculations seem legit here, there are some reasons that the whole theory could be wrong. for instance, Roy could likely not have been the first person to ever have injured lust enough to make her regenerate which means the estimate energy of a human soul could be wrong. Another instance, all the homunculus were at least 60+ which meant a certain amount of energy had to be used for their survival. But otherwise this is a great video!

[@Tilaic]

I imagine that since a person can live ~100 years off of just one soul. The conversion would be the same during periods of time where regeneration / powers aren't being used.

[@Willpower360]

What if there was an odd number of people in xerxes

[@danielle739]

William Xu I don’t want to get into THAT debate but you could count the unborn

[@matthewrandall2767]

My exact fucking thought

[@matthewrandall2767]

Actually there were because of hohemheim being an extra one

[@danilomoreira1648]

@@matthewrandall2767 hohemheim doesn't count

[@shezacuber6092]

@@danilomoreira1648 if you are talking about people in Xerxes,yes he is to be counted but if you only talk about the people in the STONE then he doesn't have to be counted

[@Neuroticmancer]

Kim Jong Un's gonna make a philosophers stone now isn't he?

[@mcbeliefff]

no

[@revuconsfection5689]

Neuroticmancer That will be funny yet terrifying to see.

[@KATSU_M]

I'd be terrified

[@mrman7391]

yes yes he is

[@angelicaokvist6875]

IF he had internet

[@shadowdoesstuff8541]

Friend: *gets me into fma* Me: *sees what happened about Nina* Me: Talks about *NINA* Friend: Why Me: Because... NINA

[@thedungeonscrawler2318]

Nina's is not as bad as Maes Hughes' in my opinion

[@sodadile]

This is me but the 2003 version of Lust

[@PercyKqv]

never talk about Nina, that's the 1st rule of the Elric brothers

[@sophiea7]

N I N A 1 0 0

[@IyaorIsis]

6:08 with the things mat says on a regular basis, the F.B.I must be standing outside his door 24/7

[@lordofdtcg4311]

Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Eugene Krabs sold spongebobs soul for 62 cents

[@joecrazy9896]

_WolfSquad _ Mr. K would have taken a nickel if that was all the Flying Dutchman had.

[@nolanbell1681]

My soul is priceless, my soul has no value

[@dracoxiii6188]

Sooo, can I have it then? I'd like to have a spare to charge my DS with...

[@udyproductions6059]

Nolan Bell so it’s free? 😏

[@theplasmapro8343]

PhantomOfLegend do you think he could’ve gotten more?

[@soupepictrek1397]

3:57 Maybe then you'll finish Doctor Who part 3!

[@osamudazai4323]

I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU DID THIS! it's such a breath of fresh air to see a mainstream theorist well versed in anime and going that extra mile (a lot of channels stick to live action)

[@joseluissifuentes8639]

12:01 Me: Helloooo nurse.

[@666melodeath666]

Edward Elric He PROTECC He ATTACC But most of all He aint bringing Mom BACC

[@nicolasviossat7078]

that's cruel but it's facts....the truth hurts.

[@jvnnvh]

I hate how much i loved that

[@azuregriffin1116]

*I'm crying from laughter and sadness*

[@killuman637]

666melodeath666 .... ._.

[@Theghosthause]

Big brother Ed.

[@Harddiskfail]

so philosopher's stones are soul-er-powered ?!

[@Cheekysquirel]

Harddiskfail they have pumpkin spice bleach now

[@yttrium7599]

Ha...ha..ha..

[@exilestudios9546]

god damn it barb

[@athenali3132]

nice

[@yasminmat753]

Harddiskfail disappointed ™

[@kingdom8051]

I was able to remember at least 200 of my friends during 7nth grade writing them down as they came in to my mind and it’s pretty fun to see just how much people I knew and talked to

[@LaineyKismet]

That intro was everything I didn't know I needed in my life but got anyway. MatPat you are the BEST ❤

[@anenbychick]

''Philosofer stone IS people!'' 𝙘𝙤𝙢𝙢𝙪𝙣𝙞𝙨𝙢 𝙞𝙣𝙩𝙚𝙣𝙨𝙞𝙛𝙞𝙚𝙨

[@cubedgecko9394]

This my friends is why in america the first harry potter book is the sorcerer's stone not philosopher's stone no offence. :)

[@diobrandocinematicuniverse4450]

Oof

[@diobrandocinematicuniverse4450]

Also #DDM the communism theme is playing in my head when I were my ushanka hat

[@queenbloxar]

well they are all equal. equally put into a stone to be used as a battery.

[@hyrulianwhovian5399]

This is a really good theory, don't get me wrong, and I will insta-click on anything FMA from this channel, but I'm pretty sure Lust uses up her souls way more often then just her fight with Mustang. Hughes stabs her in the head with a throwing knife, Hawkeye shoots her 24 ish times, not to mention that she is 250 years old. That still doesn't account for anytime she used her stone in the past. To be fair though, it would be basically impossible to factor all that in, and just to reiterate, I really liked this theory a LOT. Keep up the good work!

[@Slayer_Jesse]

Yeah agreed. There's no way she never had to regenerate before this, she's definitely used some power over the centuries.

[@Wanard4]

i would guess that she already used around 2/5th of her stone before last fight.

[@Seliennee]

Yeah, that's exactly what I was going to say.

[@ThrottleKitty]

Not to mention it's implied some got WAY more souls than others! It's implied Sloth got hardly any, and he dies after much less damage than any other, where as Pride, Gluttony, and Envy all got a lot more souls transmuted into them in the name of his "experiments".

[@deth7butler957]

i was just about to say that, good call out man.

[@fortyonesix2028]

0:40 Hm.... *Sees the 3.5 dislikes* Well he wasn't wrong---

[@samd2612]

How do you get 3.5 dislikes???? Does someone have to half dislike?????

[@jaydon__bmore0717]

@@samd2612 he meant 3.5k dislikes

[@samd2612]

@@jaydon__bmore0717 who is k

[@lueezationlueezaming2928]

@@samd2612 k is used to represent "Thousand"

[@hannahcrenshaw9342]

Did he just say.... "The Original Comics?"

[@dontme8174]

I thought the exact same thing like dude...

[@kwabzycomposer]

THE WORD “MANGA” LITERALLY MEANS “COMIC” IN ENGLISH PEOPLE. LOOK IT UP.

[@juocyjay5732]

Yes. (Sigh) Yes he did.

[@tsaicin]

manga = comics but in japanese

[@benntrowbridge]

This is a decent theory, I was with you, until you totally skipped over the other times Lust was killed before Mustang killed her all those times

[@CaptainLogix]

Vainquisher Exactly... I stopped watching from there onwards. Plus Father is still making Philosophers Stones, so it's hard to get the actual number of souls

[@unholyiiamas]

Yup, I thought of this also. Not a bad idea to try to calculate but not very accurate in execution.

[@Doubl3KiLLz]

I was thinking this too :/

[@egodeath613]

Vainquisher thank you

[@zerovista8158]

All so you have to take in count that before Mustang showed it Riza was shooting Lust over and over again until she ran out of ammo.

[@ASerpentPerplexed]

"And Lust looks, um... *zooms in on her chest* She looks, uh... She looks 'healthy' to me" - #PervPat 2017

[@entropias_gonos]

Seriously, wtf was that for? Lust is busty, or, at least she sports a cleavage. Big fucking whoop! Focusing on her breasts doesn't prove anything about her weight. And for the people who call it "a joke", seriously? You've ever heard anything more failed to produce laughter than this stinker? He just done fucked up yet again.

[@CommanderM117]

hopefully mustang didn't see this or mat would be dead man

[@entropias_gonos]

WilbaForce0017 what? She's not a child! Wtf are you talking about?

[@vizthex]

Hey she's hot.

[@Bluecho4]

Hey! Lust having a generous figure is an objective fact stated for the record! It doesn't mean perversion is what's happening here!

[@novusnocturnm]

Nice job. After 10 years, you have been the ONLY one to make me use highschool chemistry. Yay, glad I learned stoichiometry just so I could follow along with this video. XD

[@TheBlueBroadcast]

Full metal alchemist: a soul isn't judged by one price, thats the lesson we wanted to teach. MatPat: Are you sure about that?

[@tomasroque3338]

You are assuming Lust's first death was Mustang's first explosion. Since she's lived for hundreds of years, it's possible she's died before. You are also forgetting that Father has created more than 7 homunculi, as he re-creates them every time one of them dies.

[@kotinayler2856]

I actually punched my computer when I saw your image, that's strangely reallistic

[@user-us5lw7mt2v]

Tomas Roque i was thinking about that. And she use the stone to activate her claws too. The estimative of the video stand for a minimum energy.

[@wesleygorrell3266]

Tomas Roque also the fact that we actually witnessed Hughes get a headshot on Lust with a knife. Though it wasn't a confirmed "kill", she looked pretty dead to me before she revived.

[@I25mI25]

A headshot with a knife is, at least with MatPats calculations, way easier to repair than half a body. Not saying anything against that she probably has died more than seven times, just that the amount of damage done to the body is important for the calculation based on mass, not the death itself. Even damage done by aging could be more expensive to repair over the span of multiple years than a simple knife to the head.

[@67tedward]

I'm not sure that the stone's have a fixed amount of energy either. I always assumed that they got overloaded by having to repeatedly regenerate in a short time, because there is a scene where gluttony uses up all his regeneration but survives, and later in the show has regeneration again. You could say father just gave him more souls, but that would also be assuming.

[@TimeturnerJ]

Matpat: Worries about triggering anime fans. Also Matpat: Calls a manga series "comics".

[@tranqle73]

Timeturner Probably intentional.

[@uwuwatsthis1746]

Timeturner *TRIGGERED*

[@brandonhlm2780]

Lets just ignore the fact that Comic and Manga mean the exact same fucking thing just localized in different regions, the fact people are actually getting this pissy over a word that is equal to what they are arguing agaisnt is baffeling, mat here MORE than likely just use the word comic as to not explain what manga is

[@MegaAgamon]

google translate manga please

[@gingainfinity1034]

Timeturner mat pat will die for this anime hersy

[@sodadile]

4:32 Me, a 2003 Lust stan: *Sobbing*

[@nikro3386]

10:59 is it me or did Mat just rap a small bit

[@kaijoswilman]

Kinda

[@mirabletest]

You're not taking in consideration her past "deaths"

[@andy54668]

How could he do that??

[@kellikay100]

I didn't see this but I commented the same thing

[@DalePWhyte]

He's calculated the energy needed to regenerate her whole body, even so, he forgot the time Mustang ripped the stone out of her chest and she regenerated around it, so instead of dividing by 9 it should have been 10

[@Foxintox]

@@andy54668 by taking into account her age (between 200 and 400 years) , the "recycle rate" of our body (how long it takes for your body to fully "shed" (dead cells etc.) which is about 5 years if i remember correctly, meaning that every atom in your body gets replaced within five years except for those in teeth and some neurons etc.) so you can find how many times she had to "regenerate" her body to live past a normal human life expectancy , even if it was atom by atom rather than the full regenerative thing when she gets burned .

[@andy54668]

@@Foxintoxthx but u didn't have to define recycle rate. I'm not that stupid.

[@esterlau464]

Him: original comics Me: ITS CALLED MANGA!!!!!

[@kani841]

THANK YOUU been waiting for someone to say this.

[@Julianicos]

i just call them Japanese comics

[@kajiitl]

I call tgem right left weeb dictionaries

[@kani841]

Typical Profile okay not gonna lie i laughed

[@foureyesisafish7968]

MANGA ARE COMICS. Manga just is the Japanese term for comic

[@Alcoholic_Nerd]

I don't know why Kirby was at 3:36 but it's been one of my favorite series since the very early 90s. The latest game was released last friday and it's unlike any other before it......

[@avyay9818]

So the soul they were missing was just incredible amounts of energy that would allow the transmutation to come together correctly. I still feel the their mother would have very bad memory loss in the end though.

[@lisquidsnake]

Naruto has 2 kids. One of them is a badass. The other's name is Boruto

[@khulmach9662]

Burn.

[@troger6895]

lisquidsnake OOOOOOO SHEET

[@hamzasaid3368]

When she destroyed boruto when they were kids feelsbad

[@qualitytrash6200]

I still can't get over that name....

[@Silentgrace11]

Man, it's dark outside, but even I can see all this shade being cast about.

[@missgothfox6961]

Me: *looks a someone else’s soul* “five thousand dollars” Me: *looks at my own soul* “like five bucks”

[@theguythatexists2719]

Mat is forgetting the fact that lust also had to use some of the souls to repair damage before the fight and the amount of souls she needs to live that long

[@matthewlightwood5412]

Hi MatPat. You probably won't see this but I just want to say thank you for making these videos. I've been watching them for about a year now and no matter how upset I am, your intro music and your upbeat tone always make me feel better. So..just thank you.

[@dumpsternest69]

i feel the same way! how are you doing 4 years later?

[@algotmethods4521]

He price of a human soul is 3.99 duh Plus tax of course

[@funnyjoke3910]

You mean about tree fiddy?

[@nirktheman-thingstab-cutter]

Now what tax do you pay? Does it depend on where you live or the tax in hell?

[@DGuptaCassidy]

Is that usd?

[@TheMrNathwoz]

Ya that's what game stop says those dumbasses

[@jean-lucmagdaluyo3579]

About 10 kishin souls and a tenth of a witch's soul.

[@dicerson9976]

7:00, well, considering most of the people he's talking about are, ya know, DEAD. I highly doubt he's exactly maintaining a stable relationship. Dunbar's number (which is actually averaged by most to be around 150) is about stable *relationships*. So not just their name, but who they are, what they do, and how they relate to and interact with everyone else you also maintain a stable relationship with. He's just learning their names, a single giant shopping list. That has to do entirely with long-term memory and his ability to recall such memories.

[@joshuaking3731]

Dicerson Almost. The souls are still living inside Von Hoenhime. He has conversations with them. Just before he brags to Father about how he learned the names of each and every one of them, he lists off about 7 names and then details what they did in life. A flourish, a son wanting to take over the family business, etc... However, the you are right in saying he isn't maintaining a "relationship" with them. It would be more like a king who knows the name of all of his subjects. He would know who they are and what they do, but could move on to learn about someone else. He isn't inviting them to dinner or anything, its just intell gathering from disembodied conciousnesses.

[@Kirasamui626]

Accurate or not. I couldn't imagine memorizing over 100,000 names. Heck I can barley remember the names of everyone at my work place.

[@stew2860]

Dicerson 536,000 is a number never even counted to by a human, it's not possible to remember that many NAMES

[@stew2860]

Dicerson as Matt said, there's a limit to what a human mind can do.

[@christiansmith804]

but for every name he must remember he has a extra soul of power

[@0TiredGhost0]

Me: *wants game theory about soul eater* Film theory: lol anime is against the theorists rules

[@greenrockgirl5150]

If father purged himself of all his sins then how come he is still evil

[@judeautheguy]

Technically, father is not really that evil. We see in the end that he just desired supreme knowledge

[@nichsulol4844]

albert has left the server

[@Dragonlover553]

I’d argue he just got ride of everyone else’s evil, which they rudely foisted upon him the day he devoured all their souls like tic tacs. He still had plenty of his own. After all - he ate all those souls like so many chocolate bars all on his own.

[@everettbyers9378]

If you had a philosophers stone maybe you would have enough time to complete doctor who part 3

[@MD-tv7rf]

Yes to true!

[@gflyr9838]

yes

[@thelamergamer1894]

SORCERER'S stone, you British fuck.

[@shorround]

The Lamer Gamer its in your name your lame

[@shorround]

Close up it’s a scam no du but why did you say howdy

[@thestrangefishlikeentity9967]

You say it's impossible to maintain a stable relationship with that many people, and it is. However, he didn't have to maintain a stable relationship, he just said he learned their names.

[@AJJJJJJJJJJJJ]

as a no life minecraft player its pretty hard to remember every player name ( i know about 50,000 player names that are 16 characters long containing letters and numbers and theoretically i met 150,000 players indirectly or directly ) but i would still say its possible as long as you spent a minimum of 5 hours for each person

[@hydibraun]

Actually he probably learned there name convinced the should to help him and than moved on to the next one there is no memorization involved.

[@badbeardbill9956]

He's has like 400 years to talk to them.

[@zadiel9570]

TheStrangeFishlikeEntity he said he made relationships whith them if you watched the anime ,they are the ones who help him to beat father

[@katelynpeck7484]

AJ GAMING he is an adult not a kid though

[@Flight_of_Icarus]

Never ask a lady her weight, Matpat, even if it's to calculate the amount of energy she's using from her philosopher's stone to regenerate.

[@jamescoocoo]

If only you realized that not only did lust use alchemical energy constantly to change her weapon fingers, and also has died several times even on screen, not to mention how many times she must have died off screen.

[@Endershock1678]

How much is a soul worth? I don't know, I don't have one.

[@jupitersgodzilla7114]

Endershock1678 Same...

[@emeraldplayer4126]

Good one.

[@thomasthompson8629]

66 likes

[@lucifers.morningstar3805]

I ate mine, it was half sweet half spicy.

[@RandomCorvid]

so many gingers in this thread

[@Mj783980]

One problem with your calculation is it assumes that Lust's "battery" was at 100% when she encountered Mustang even though we already know she has been using it, obviously to live, and also to use her powers as a homunculus. You also neglect the obvious signs of losses when regenerating, like all the light and arcing we see as homunculus regenerate, and assume that the stone is completely efficient when being used.

[@epitimyofmisery7783]

.........well shit

[@mariooiram7546]

That and all the time she was alive.

[@RappersInFan]

So, since cells in our body replace themselves entirely every 4 days to 1 year ( 8 year for fat, which she didnt obviously have that much ;) ), we can assume that she replaced herself every 6 months. That makes up about 500 COMPLETE regenerations throughout her lifespan. So it didnt took 9 bodies for the souls to be burnt, but 509!

[@EskChan19]

And that asssumes that untill she met Mustang noone has ever injured her before, or each of these regenerations would have to be accounted for too.

[@Netherdan]

But one can assume that they didn't use souls to stay alive by "regenerating" dead cells spending soul energy but just by physiological processes like eating, breathing, etc. So they would only need to spend one soul per average lifespan of their respective available ones. That would account for 3 to 5 souls throughout her 250 years lifetime

[@weedleisopcute3626]

4:41 That Kingdom Key tho

[@greenrockgirl5150]

So what is the real reason why Ed is short, in the show we are introduced to multiple possibilities, he doesn’t like milk, his body is connected to Al’s and his auto mail is stunting his growth, but we never get a definitive answer, so I’m curious what other people think.

[@ragzzytv]

no reason, some people are short. probably genetics. and ya automail plays and important role. also I've heard working out very early as a teen will reduce your growth not sure about the scientific accuracy. fighting in army probably is the reason.

[@lazyninja1793]

Film Theory... My favorite anime. With the Theorist Alchemist FullMetal MatPat.

[@Username-wk7ni]

Lazy Ninja matweeb or Anipat

[@navivan768]

Lazy Ninja why not fullmetal pat instead

[@hamez6736]

funny thing is, i just finished the series a few minutes ago

[@jamlaminnswordhand5402]

READY STEADY CAN'T HOLD ME BACK READY STEADY GIVE ME GOOD LUCK READY STEADY NEVER LOOK BACK LET'S GET STARTED READY STEADY GO

[@user-dq5xg2zk8j]

He's a full metal theorist indeed . secretly working with alchemy and metal as we speak .. All in the name of theories and replacing fleshy meat limbs

[@rayniajonson567]

Hey Matpat I just watched Dumbo and was wondering how big would his ears have to be to actually fly or if its possible at all. Cause you know "I've seen about everything when I see an elephant fly".

[@espoppelaars]

I would be interested in that!

[@triforce228]

A rough answer to your question is 15m (49ft) wingspan for a small 300kg (660 lbs) elephant, but the actual answer would include how fast Dumbo can take off and fly, so it would be between 0m (0ft) and 25m (82ft)

[@a.morphous66]

CRIMAFUYT You're not MatPat. Only MatPat does science here. Come back when you're MatPat.

[@marcusc9931]

Speaking of vampirism, Alucard's immortality seems to function a lot like FMA homunculi. He even recites a poem that is rumored to be a philosopher stone formula when he unleashes his level 0.

[@Ace-lz7ix]

I love that Matt is explaining something none of us asked about

[@superkamiguru2576]

1:57 be careful MatPat you don't want any weeb hate for calling a manga a comic

[@sblower9410]

well lets not BE hateful, we're just the ones trying to avoid it.

[@mmurdoch6190]

It's been awhile, plus he's been doing more dc and marvel then anime. So I won't be salty. 😜

[@Dadan-dan]

SuperKamiGuru If only he said Manwha

[@daelenstonemeier490]

isnt it though

[@kieyvsquared6817]

SuperKamiGuru oh no the *"HORROR!"*

[@Kevin-wx7wu]

What about envy?

[@firemaster786]

Kevin Pereira exactly what I was thinking envy is so dense because of his actually size condensed into the size of a 15 year old boy and you can't get an accurate reading of how much power a human soul has when you can't understand the power alchemy has or its affects it's all theoretical

[@firemaster786]

Kevin Pereira and it pisses me off

[@IamKoreanMan]

Hmm well can't envy absorb the souls and mass of different living beings? His true form is that of a slug, but if he kept absorbing other bodies, he should have more mass and energy than the other homunculus. He did that during the end of the series, where he went around and absorbed the white homunculus to recharge his stone. I believe he also tried to do this to Ed and Ling, when they were eaten by gluttony.

[@thatanimegeekgirl6580]

"Today it is my goal, to calculate the strength of a human soul" Its so genius it even rhymes!!!!!

[@thesonicgaminggod6956]

that intro was so well written the best written intro youve done man

[@PinkKittyOwO]

Matpat: Serious Spoilers ahead Me: Well good thing Ive watched the whole show...twice

[@captaincati8826]

lol 4 times

[@timjo221]

only twice? those are rookie numbers

[@PinkKittyOwO]

true true

[@yongmeili7071]

0 times😸😝

[@sakethnn7674]

9 times nd manga 4 times

[@axelpaxel9432]

If I made a philosopher's stone I might be able to live long enough to see half life 3.

[@genuinelycantbeasked522]

u wont

[@jadensmith4607]

Axel paxel or KH3

[@Jebiwibiwabo]

they confirmed it is dead, rip

[@whyamihere0369]

Maybe you'd long long enough to make a better joke

[@daeneryswillbethequeen9718]

half life 3 is dead. Dota 2 is far more important and superior

[@powderedphantom5765]

5:00 well not exactly because she used it previously to live for a few hundred years and that’s not even mentioning how much it could of been used when they where still in father

[@iodias]

The only problem with your math at 5:00 is that there is no way to account for the energy Lust expended *before* appearing on the show.

[@wodahexe8400]

So, Lust got burned nine times. Is that including the mini explosion Mustang caused by throwing Havoc’s lighter into the room she was in?

[@robobuddy5745]

Yandere Alchemist or the knife wound to the head caused by Hughes?

[@tranqle73]

Yandere Alchemist Don't forget when she had to regenerate her ENTIRE body after Mustang tore her Stone out AFTER said explosion. And also when she got shot by Hawkeye, when Marcoh impaled her with a giant spike, Hughes throwing a knife in her head, and when she got shot in the leg and tore open her chest to show off her stone.

[@comora010304]

Gotta agree even mustang recognized the smell of burned bodies and totally forgot the knife to the knife to head lust recieved from hughes

[@spork1423]

that's possible

[@fredbyoutubing]

I thought, considering her behavior, she has probably been critically wounded other times outside this story

[@tylerk3130]

I think there's a better point of reference. Lust has been alive for several hundred years and has had to regenerate many times. She wouldn't be close a full 1/14th of the souls, and we have no way of knowing how used up her stone is. I think a better reference would be when Ed gets impaled and uses his own soul to heal himself. He states that it'll take a few years off his life, so maybe 1/20th of a soul, and from the area of the would you could estimate he probably has to regenerate around 250 grams of flesh to stop himself from bleeding out. Using your calculation as a base, 250 grams = 2 786 141 tera joules/280 = 9 950 tera joules = 1/20th of a soul. 1 soul = 199 010 tera joules of energy. This is about 300 times more than your estimate, which given the fact that those last few minutes likely made up a fraction of her souls makes some sense. It's a much more self-contained example; maybe very wrong, but another interpretation. Still, loved the episode, as always.

[@jodiwilliams2602]

Matpat: How much is a soul worth? Red skull: Best I can do is 1 soul stone

[@JeanPGuy3000]

Dunbar's Number is based on having a stable relationship with every single person You can learn every word in the dictionary easier than you can learn the words and definitions Not to mention those are just words not complex organisms with feelings He learned there names not their likes and dislikes

[@RMills646]

But he did kind of learn about each person, hence why he talks about the kid who wanted to be an academic, the builder and his son and their relationship, the guy who was fired from the restaurant for feeding a poor man who couldn't pay. Hoenheim learned about each person trapped within him and it was more than just their names

[@afh7170]

@@RMills646 I don't think logic applies to a 500 year old immortal man lol

[@annalisedau1874]

Not much...trust me, like £2.54?

[@natalyamays2639]

Katgamer 66 wow that much, mines worth like 6p

[@devantawilburn4450]

The Film Theorists _ Hmm

[@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024]

Katgamer 66 More like $3.17

[@ata_]

They give me 2 in gamestop

[@vgfbestuur9565]

Mine is more like £-6,45

[@AshVXmc]

It's funny that Lust's voice actor and Roy's voice actor have married. Considering how many times they are trying to kill each other.

[@TetsuDeinonychus]

They jokingly keep track of how many times each of their characters have killed each other and bring up who's "ahead" at conventions. lol

[@cobweb8129]

a truly deadly power couple.

[@BookEatPeople]

Well they so have experience in rl

[@hailey5167]

Laura and Travis are the best duo honestly XD I watch them play dnd weekly XD

[@kiritoyuuki4324]

P

[@rocketraccon8533]

I just want to thank you Matpat. With your first FMA Theory you've made me curious so i started to watch Full Metall Alchemist. I never thought it would become one of my favourite tv show but it did. And now i can enjoy it, appreciate it and watch it til' the end of my life. All thanks to you.🤟🤗 Ps. Omg Roy Mustang is the coolest! I could watch the scene were hes burning Lust a thousand times!

[@swanson2830]

I don't recall if it was covered in brotherhood or not, but I seem to recall that alchemy was inferred to be the catalyst for disasters in our dimension in the original anime's finale. I could be wrong because I haven't seen it in years. Love the video!

[@Snicklebeck]

Lust has already been alive for 200 years before her death. How many souls were lost in that large amount of time? Surely her death was not the only time she was forced to use her philosopher stone? Once you have calculated these numbers, are they consistent with the damage the other homonculi took? It seems like Sloth and Gluttony were killed far easier. I am also not convinced that Father was generous enough to give each of his children 1/14th of his souls. Despite having purged himself, he still has many of these sinful traits inside him, especially pride. If father had removed all the sinful souls, then he would have been unable to regenerate Gluttony in a way that he was still gluttonus. A better way to calculate this would have been to have measured the amount of energy it took to kill Hoenheim. We know for certain how many souls he was given and we know that he only used souls when it was absolutely necessary. We even know exactly how many souls he took out to make his giant transmutation circle because he addresses them by name.

[@absolutelynobody3698]

Tanner Tolman Asuuming that she lived for 400 years, and assuming she didn't eat, For the lifespan assuming the fma world is in the 1900 because of the lights then 400 years ago would be 1500. Then the average lifespan would be about 60 years. She has lived 6.66 souls You lose about 5 pounds a week water fasting so add a few more pounds because of no water and to 8 pounds. 1 year = 52 weeks 400x52=20800 weeks 20800x8= 166400 pounds Since E=mc2 that equals 24920064x10 to the 20th power of joules That's 2492006400000000 terajoules of energy That number divided by 654 is 3,810,407,339,449 souls. So she should of died a long time ago if she didn't eat cause she only has about 38,000 souls. But that's assuming that she didn't eat. And I'm an eight grader who is drinking Gatorade at 1 am on a weekend so most of this is probably wrong because I didn't check.

[@karsa_writer]

How many souls would she have burned if she did eat?

[@absolutelynobody3698]

Whitney Tolman 6.66 souls

[@bvzv]

Also, didnt lust died from hydrogen explosion before Mustang started roasting her?

[@Snicklebeck]

That and Mustang ripped the stone out of her forcing her to regenerate her entire body.

[@GiRR007]

the one piece joke was on point XD

[@ookazi1000]

One piece is not that long: three episodes a week (which is coincidentally the amount you need to watch to feel the show progress), and you'll be caught up to the current episode in, *does maths,* five years, at which point, the show will be another 300 episodes down, but then its only two and a half more years and you're all caught up. Or, you could binge the whole thing in about a fortnight (I watched 600 episodes in nine days when I started). An hour a week for seven and a half years hardly requires one commit genocide for the souls' energy. That joke was on point though, I'll give you that.

[@nitrodeathkillerawesome2519]

The sad thing is I am 13 and have watched one piece three times

[@baconous689]

Probably not as long, okay DEFINITELY not as long but the simpsons which currently is on it's 29th season and one piece is on it's 19th season but since one piece does three episodes PER WEEK I'm gonna say that that joke would count towards the simpsons as well

[@phuktao1282]

Geeze man chill on the maths. There's something called binge watching. For me i binge watch like 10 episodes a day.

[@user-fs3tu4ry3t]

wait what?

[@chibicthulhu4382]

FMA was my first anime. My older brother kept bugging me to watch it and finally I said okay when he ask me to watch the first episode of brotherhood with him. After that I watched through all of FMA and then FMA:Brotherhood. I’ve loved anime since then

[@MigWith]

if i am not wrong, the philosophers stone doesn't convert itself into mass, it transforms one obejct by stealing mass/matter from its surrounding. simply put: if a atom of hydrogen were in a vacuum, it could not be turned into helium, but if 2 atoms of hydrogen were in a vacuum, it could.

[@oscargiese3516]

I really like your theory, but there is one problem: the thing with Lust. See, in the Manga the fight between Mustang and Lust is waaaayy longer, Lust gets shot by hawkeye somewhere in the battle etc. Aaand we don't know how often Lust died before the battle, and she did for sure. So the data your using in this case is kinda off. But the rest of the theory is pretty good, have some props and keep doing such awesome stuff

[@HeartlessKnave]

Isn't this a film theory, not a manga theory though? He also says that he's going by Brotherhood, instead of that... other one, and doesn't use the manga for any part of his theory. Though others have pointed out the internal flaw with using Lust for his theory.

[@Yukazikii]

TheUndeclaredWinner Didn't Hughes kill (or damage) her with one of his ninja knives? And I remember Hawkeye shooting her a couple of times before Roy shows up :)

[@phillard8653]

That just means one human soul is even more powerful!!! :D

[@mangafan589]

TheUndeclaredWinner if you're using brotherhood than you are using the manga.

[@joshuajacobs7549]

Why didn't he use the Doctor Marcoh scene in the anime where he did experiment with his scientist to make the philosopher stone. Itll be much much better than using Lust death as it's waay too inconsistent

[@SinerAthin]

Capturing and consigning 500k souls to eternal damnation? Damn, the Fullmetal Alchemist universe is darker than anything IRL xD

[@khorneberzerker7192]

SinerAthin These prostitute spam bots are even darker than that

[@khorneberzerker7192]

SinerAthin and more darker than that is warhammer 40k

[@SinerAthin]

That suffering lasted for only a limited time though, unlike the eternal damnation of the souls. I mean, ask yourself this Would you rather die 60 times over in various gruesome ways? Or die once, but have your soul consigned to suffer eternally in a never ending agony past the universe's end?

[@Snoflakes_1]

SinerAthin And then there's Negan

[@joefling2291]

SinerAthin I

[@Rai05]

Bro the intro was fire, I already know i am gonna watch it like 3billion times

[@edytaklimczak5453]

Me: sees thumbnail. My soul with a price tag over its neck:definautelly millions.