I think your assessment is spot on man. Great video. I happen to live spitting distance from Filson’s headquarters and as such we have loads of second hand Filson products available. I still buy their well made but way overpriced items from the factory outlet, second hand or on sale. I’d say for most of their mainline products 50% off is somewhere between fair and a tiny bit high. Anything under 40% of retail is a good buy.
@portlandpipesmoker8497 Жыл бұрын
Hello Leo, good to see you! Wow! I've never had any filson products...now I know why! That's a lot of money....and I live in the outdoor clothing mecca. So many makers of outdoor wear here in the Portland and Seattle area. In fact, I still have a GoLite full Himalayan suit rated for -60C from my Alpine climbing days Thanks for the review, Take care, Corey
@pnwesty7174 Жыл бұрын
I've got a bunch of Filson bits, but no tin cloth aside from hunting pants. We have a couple Mackinaw wool coats, several vests, a couple sweaters, and a few shirts. I am 100% behind paying more for well made, domestically made clothes. In the last several years they have retained the prices and offshored manufacturing for a lot of their shirts and such. I believe that all of these changes have occurred 5-6 years ago when I believe they were sold. They have turned into a boutique brand that used to service loggers and outdoorsmen/women. I loathe what the new owners have done to a legacy brand.
@200tdi1 Жыл бұрын
I concur! I do think the UK climate is better suited to waxed canvas over where I am in the North woods, across the pond, with Winter temps frequently below freezing. In those conditions the tin cloth earns its name. At the same time, its stiffness is wonderful for bushwhacking through brush and balsam thickets, stuff just moves out of the way and it's a low friction passage. I'd never pay today's prices, second hand the way to go indeed. Sad to hear the company has devolved into offshore schizzle. I was lucky and found my Packer 25 years ago, 1/2 off during a closeout sale at a local outfitter who was downsizing their clothing section and later was gifted the wool liner. Top notch, tough coat, heirloom quality, still barely broken in. I read somewhere of a guy in Grizzly country getting swatted across the back, his Tin Cloth saved his butt! Take care!
@trix4meow Жыл бұрын
I appreciate this review looking for a new wax jacket for my husband
@3riverspiper1792 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Leo, never had a Filson product, historically I have gravitated to Barbour clothing, although in the last decade I have invested in some of the Seeland range of outdoor clothing, not let me down, so far, and exceeded expectations, it is the lesser costly relative of Harkila I believe, generally I have made my purchaes at the end on the wet season, so taking advantage of the sales. 👍
@timberdrifter8225 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very thorough review. I do like the cut of those jackets. I will certainly buy one if I find it second hand. I cannot justify spending that kind of money. Especially for a classic American brand not made in the US.
@markely7587 Жыл бұрын
Very nice review. I agree with you on the pockets being almost worthless. I wish they were lined with flannel or moleskin. I have a few other heavy jackets from other manufacturers and it’s the same, no pocket liners to keep your hands warm.
@TheGentlemanScholar Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this, Leo. You're a die-hard, true-to-the-soil rambler...
@TheAmbulatoryAnarchist Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I bore the shite out of myself.. 🤣
@3eggerfpv3974 ай бұрын
Great video! Wished you would have mentioned sizing, is it true to size?
@yeliabdlareg Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the shirt you are wearing in this video?
@TheAmbulatoryAnarchist Жыл бұрын
Bison bushcraft
@P-B-R-streetgang Жыл бұрын
I’ve been interested in Filson for a while but they have gotten way out of hand with their pricing, especially over the last year or two. I refuse to buy their products when I can get the same quality elsewhere for less money. Plain and simple.
@TheAmbulatoryAnarchist Жыл бұрын
Absolutely spot on. They've outsourced production to China and they have increased their prices hugely regardless. I would have some sympathy for them in some circumstances; cost of materials and labour going up, etc, were it not for the fact that they have the bare-faced cheek to ask £45/USD$55 for a simple webbing strap with plastic clips on each end for their bags. Absolute piss takers
@jimedwards2511 Жыл бұрын
Nice video and I agree with everything you said. I own a Tin Cloth Jacket, Shelter Cloth jacket, Mackinaw Cruiser and a Barbour. The Barbour was made in England and the Filson were all made in the USA. You are correct that the Barbour is every bit as good as the Filson. My Barbour Border coat is a little thinner than the Filson but still very good. Out of all the jackets listed the Mackinaw Cruiser is my favorite. I highly recommend it. It will suit you well in Southern England. It is very durable and is the last Filson product Made in the USA.
@jakehagenson7225 Жыл бұрын
Funny, I have multiple Filson jackets and other items, all US made. Last coat I bought was a Barbour made in the UK because Filson has lost sight of what made them great.
@cast1450 Жыл бұрын
I have a Barbour Beaufort Jacket for 30 Years, and three Filson TinCloth and Cover Cloth Jackets. Each Filson is better. 15 oz TinCloth vs. 8oz Barbour.
@cjsjmy007 Жыл бұрын
Agree. Filson is better made (I say that as a Brit) and is far harder wearing.
@ICHIBANDIPPER Жыл бұрын
Hi Leo, I really enjoyed this review. I wouldn’t warrant buying any of these for myself, but I’m wondering on your boots. What boots do you recommend for daily Lunting? I have a pair of Karrimor, my 4th pair in 3 years & they’re ok but with so many varieties I thought I’d ask your opinion. Thanks mate, Ross
@TheAmbulatoryAnarchist Жыл бұрын
Hello mate. I wore Meindl boots for over 20 years before I went to a Cotswold Outdoors and got measured up properly, when I found out that my feet are too wide for them! I now have a pair of Hanwag that have never given me a single blister! I also own a pair of Rogue light trail boots that I have worn constantly for about 15 years and although I need to have some stitching repaired, the sole shows no sign of wear at all.
@ICHIBANDIPPER Жыл бұрын
@@TheAmbulatoryAnarchist I didn’t thank you for this Leo, thank you mate, excellent video which I’ve watched about 20 times. Do you own a Barbour wax jacket? I’m on the hunt for one, second hand probably, any thoughts on them?. Cheers, Ross
@goldboy150 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got a waxed canvas pipe roll. There is something palpably pleasing about that material…
@TheAmbulatoryAnarchist Жыл бұрын
Definitely! I have one by Bradley Mountain, I think it is, that a good friend in the US sent me a few years ago. When I'm out in the woods I favour waxed canvas over any modern lightweight material. And don't get me started on hemp rope...
@MissingLinkMTB5 ай бұрын
Rain, sleet, snow. I prefer the liner is so basic and not a flannel. If it gets wet you don't really have to worry so much about drying it out. Same thing with the pockets. Do you want wet pockets? I bought this as a durable jacket that will repel rain. If I want a liner and such there's Thursday or Flint and Tinder waxed jackets.
@nemanjagradinac5419Ай бұрын
Filson is good, but I definitely agree with your points. I’ve got the lined version which does significantly improve upon some of the issues. Not very smart in appearance. You couldn’t dress it up or down like you could a Barbour jacket, which isn’t a drawback but just a point to be made 👍 Barbour isn’t as hard wearing or shall I say doesn’t feel as hard wearing but you’d struggle to wear out either one 🤙
@DeffoZappo Жыл бұрын
For way less money you can get a Vermont flannel co. Waxed flannel lined jacket that is actually made in America
@radfoxuk81137 ай бұрын
.. £1k?! I was thinking like £150-300 for both jacket and liner, there is no possible way in any world, that this is worth that much. I'd expect a LOT more for a grand... Like a Kevlar weave integrated to the inner surface of the jacket for a grand. This is like when people buy a Mercedes TSHIRT, it's ALL brand at that point. Great video, definitely made me rethink aspiring to having a Filson jacket.
@bluetoad2001 Жыл бұрын
i have one but it is not comfortable as like you said it sucks the warmth right out of ya
@KLR-650 Жыл бұрын
I don't buy anything Filson brand new. I also only buy made-in-the-USA items. Got a Double Mackinaw, like new, for $250 US. Also a jacket liner new with tags for $165 US. Also, a beautiful Klondike 621 Tin Cloth which has the built-in lining, twenty years old and looks like new. You have to shop around for sure.
@EnidAgnusDei Жыл бұрын
I got 2 used Ferndale wax coats £50-00 the pair inc p&p. Well used but far better looking in quality than those.
@Jake-bt3fc Жыл бұрын
Waxed jackets are so over priced. Waxing a jacket at home is a messy tedious pain in the ass but it’s still worth it, lol.
@oleboy7615 Жыл бұрын
For the money, get the Orvis Heritage Field Coat. It’s lined and better looking. New: $200+\-
@jacksonr2602 ай бұрын
It's a damn shame that the only Filson stuff still made in USA is the Mackinaw wool jackets and shirts. Even the Tin cruisers are made in Bangladesh by wage slaves now.
@smiah1990 Жыл бұрын
But…we enjoy the waffling on 😊👍🏾
@samadams95573 ай бұрын
I have lots of Filson clothing and I listened to your entire review. Sounds like to me you purchased the wrong jacket. You bought a work jacket made to protect you from moisture and thorns and have an expectation that it’s a winter jacket. Maybe get a winter jacket instead? I’ve noticed people are buying these jackets as a trendy fashion item and then complain that it doesn’t meet their bistro needs. I have the tin cruiser, wool lined tin vest, tin work vest, short lined cruiser (for working with a a tool belt), wool mackinaw cruiser, two wool mackinaw vests, wool jacket liner, multiple tin hats (lined and unlined) and one of their First Nations hand knit sweaters. What I’ll tell you is; if you don’t use your clothing as tools, maybe don’t spend the money. I go deep in the forest, often times alone. I don’t want my stuff failing (not just clothing). If you go compare clothes look at the weight of the fabric. Tin cloth is 14 oz fabric before it’s waxed. Their leather is true top grain leather. Barber jackets are literally half the weight fabric so they’re not “just as good” if you’re looking for ruggedness. Go read the specifications for yourself, you can find them in 30 seconds. Lastly, complaining about the brim of that not being big enough; again, you chose that hat. If you wanted a larger brim, they sell one. It’s called the bush hat. Now, if you think i sound like a Filson fanboy, please consider this; I bought a tin cruiser (same jacket featured here in this video) ten years ago. I log and mill lumber in them and I wear it out in about three years. I send it back to Filson asking for a repair. They send me a brand new jacket. I’m on my third one and about to be on my fourth in that timeframe. So I’ve gotten three jackets for the original price. I don’t know of any other company making such a rugged jacket and stands behind it like they do. Go look up wranglerstar and his video on tin pants. He gets a new pair every year from his original purchase. I think he’s on like his tenth pair. Your issue is, you’re using the wrong tool and complaining about the price. Have fun at the bistro looking like a logger.
@TheAmbulatoryAnarchist3 ай бұрын
@samadams9557 I'm a forester of 30 years, you absolute tool. Working around the world and in many climates. I've worn my Filson gear while surveying and cutting timber in the UK. Thornproof and hard wearing is the only thing they are, but they make you sweat like a horse and are probably best suited to a drier cold, not a wet one. Otherwise, they're overpriced and not worth the money. It's my review and opinion, so maybe wind your neck in a bit
@samadams95573 ай бұрын
@@TheAmbulatoryAnarchist then you should know better.
@TheAmbulatoryAnarchist3 ай бұрын
@samadams9557 I do. That's why I don't recommend them. Especially since they moved production to Bangladeshi and Vietnamese sweat shops. So have fun paying those prices for something you can't even laud for being a 'murican product.
@mikeboone4425 Жыл бұрын
Any one paying this kind of money for these items needs to put a cold cloth on there for head .
@toddkester9554 Жыл бұрын
Boo to Filson for moving their production out of Seattle. Just another corporation
@ricardoarciniega6618 Жыл бұрын
Get em second market for half, then it’s worth it. Sometimes still with tags.
@williamhamilton8111 Жыл бұрын
I bought to filson coats not worth the money total rip-off