Final Fantasy 13, There is Something STRANGE Happening

[@SacrificAbominat]

The issue might be the Crystal Tools Engine they used back then. Pretty much like Luminous it was hard to develop for, and doing a remaster might be quite the undertaking to just get the engine compatible with modern consoles and hardware. They might be floating the idea of a remake because they're considering rebuilding the games from scratch in Unreal Engine as it might actually be easier to do that than trying to fix Crystal Tools to some extent.

[@thaneros]

Too soon for remakes but the right time for remasters. No need to port an already good looking game in a whole new engine then having to pay licensing fees for using the engine. The Xbox versions are already boosted to 60fps(XIII-2 and LR).

[@lloganm1234]

@SacrificAbominat it already runs (ish) on PC though?

[@SacrificAbominat]

@@lloganm1234 Yeah with pretty bad ports that need mods to make them work properly. They're going to run into similar issues trying to get them to run on current consoles as well. I can see them opting for doing a from scratch remaster in a new engine like they did with the Kingdom Hearts HD collections due to all of the issues the crystal tools has associated with it.

[@costby1105]

It probably be easier to port it over to Unreal rather than remaking it ala the Shin Megami Tensei III HD or much worse the GTA definitive trilogy or Sonic Colors Ultimate. It depends on how much time is given and how hard the original code is to work with. I doubt Square Enix is going to go all out with remaking models or environments.

[@SacrificAbominat]

@@costby1105 Yeah that's what I'm thinking they'll do too. Though I don't know how much of the crystal tool assets will be compatible. Hopefully they won't have to remake too much of them.

[@smashblaster1-up190]

I'd really love to have the costumes from each game be compatible with each other

[@thegardenofesim1174]

I just want to play the ff 13 trilogy again this time on switch so I can play it while lying down due to my bad back

[@RobertWWD]

That’s exactly why I don’t like playing on my PS5 I want all my games on Nintendo Switch.

[@nova3124]

Steamdeck bredren

[@Cicchultz]

This comment is basically how I would resume my video gamer life.

[@tabbofii]

​@@RobertWWDthen play your PS5 on the Portal

[@sharksocks8130]

@@nova3124yup, got tired of waiting for Nintendo to remaster wind waker and twilight princess, now I’m enjoying them both on the steam deck

[@makikuma91]

You know, I never got the "hallway" argument. There are a lot of beloved games were this is the case. Even FF X. Just straight from point A to B. I think people just like to hate stuff. And Lightning Returns had more freedom but "Time Management" so it was apparently awful, too. Like, bro. If any of you hasn't played these games yet, do it. Make your own opinions. IF! They finally REMASTER THEM! URGH!

[@MrDream-zm1pw]

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[@matthewcharles9813]

I think the hallway argument comes from people having issues with so much of the game that things that are passable in other games just adds to the issues in this one. I personally don't mind the hallway in games when done right. But if the pacing and story are bad then everything feels bad.

[@zeosummers3984]

This is an old argument. you can look almost anywhere and people will explain it in detail. in 13 you're just on a road with nothing available, compared to 10 where you make stops and learn about the world and it's people. 10 also has a them of the pilgrimage and going down the road, while 13 doesn't really have that excuse. LR time management is tacked on as it is never an issue outside of forcing you to not to be able to do a mission. It's more on how the systems and world building is done rather that it just existing.

[@JustSkram]

Ff7 remake was the exact same way. The only difference is everyone gives anything 7 related a pass.

[@yammoto148]

@@zeosummers3984 Ok but 13's themes is that you are fugitives in that you are literally on the run from a government that detonated a nuke doing a lot of damage before you end up essentially turning into the devil from your mythology and get hunted down even harder. It would make no sense for NPCs to talk to you much if at all because they know who you are, you can't hide and nobody is on your side that much. That being said I do agree that most of the lore being in the datalog and not outright explained in the environment is a bit of an issue. Personally I would prefer small things like you find an old datapad left by an adventurer who came through there, maybe you complete a Ceith stone mission and you get more story on the person who it used to be, I feel small stuff like that could help people wrap their brains around the jargon and lore better than just telling them read the datalog. Also maybe expanding on the exploration of Cocoon a bit allowing you to backtrack and visit different zones would be like a nice touch if they did remake it.

[@yammoto148]

Ah yes 13, my beloved. I still cannot fathom why people feel so negatively about this game when imo it has a lot less flaws than some other FF's and that music, oh man that music. Plus its visuals still hold up well today despite it being about 10 years old now.

[@base21]

If you cant fathom it then youre blatantly ignore the reasons many people have give

[@yammoto148]

@base21 I am not ignoring them, its just the reasons people have here can be explained away with a short sentence.

[@GamerConnoisseurRei]

I love it too, like if SE make a remaster I'd would buy it

[@SC-cx9ti]

Its because people dont buy it thinking its a team management game. Not to mention the world is written well but the story is written badly. A strong argument is you shouldnt need to read extra lore from the databank in order to understand why characters are in their situation and why they believe traveling to their destination collectively makes sense.

[@mewimi]

I like FF13, especially the battle system. My issue with FF13 is that they don't utilize the battle system to the full potential through most of it... except for a few optional battles. I think misogyny was an issue with a lot of FF13 hate also. Given how sensitive a lot of male gamers are, I don't doubt that last part.

[@positiveproductions6699]

I would love a remaster of the 13 trilogy because I never got to play that and it seems very interesting story-wise

[@dawk7]

No no no, honey, it's interesting as a story but you _don't_ want to play it. That's where you get to suffer. ewe"

[@JunearkCinccino]

​@@dawk7The gameplay is very fun, actually.

[@JustSkram]

The gameplay is pretty solid too. It just takes a while in OG to take the training wheels off. Anyone who says it's bad probably got mad that spamming "auto battle" got them killed if they don't use their brain.

[@LanceTheDragonMastah]

​@@dawk7 imagine giving advice Asif your opinión is fact

[@eminiclam]

gameplay is decent.....until you make it to lightning returns and then you (me at least) want to run away from it. Changing the playstyle of the game on a sequel is insane. Imagine ff 7 rebirth being a shooter instead of an ARPG.

[@RaxonXVI]

I bought the pixel remaster, the 7+8 combo pack, crisis core reunion, 9, a Japanese import of X/X-2, 12, and world of Final Fantasy physically for my switch and I'd ABSOLUTELY buy the 13 trilogy if they made them on switch as well NGL

[@hajde8128]

13 could still hold a candle to many ps4 RPGs visually, so imagine how much more crazy it would look with a shiny makeover

[@Aphasial]

There are definitely a few quality of life improvements I'd love for the first FFXIII: - Allow Wide vs Narrow instructions for your teammates when setting up Paradigms - Allow paradigms to be saved/loaded, or just don't reset them every time you change your team - Fix the material/weapon improvement system to be less opaque, or rebalance to allow for people to be able to try out more weapons for each character without screwing themselves over unless they're meticulously managing their bonus multiplier system. - Default to no minimap!! You'd be surprised how this ONE change can seriously change perspectives on the game for new players. Taking in the environment without having a constant reminder of you being in a *literal* hallway really makes a difference. - Adding small town services, NPCs, sights, and whatnot to even just a few spots in the original story would be fantastic. Palumpolum and other spots are fully fleshed out, but don't have points of interest that have any bearing on you. Even just a few more things to do here and there, when it makes sense for the story, would be great. P5R improved on P5 a lot in this way. FFXIII's pre-rendered cutscenes were phenomenal. I'd hope that if we do get a remaster they maintain that level of quality if they do end up switching to in-engine cutscenes like they did for FFXIII-2. The latter's were still good, but they always looked rougher to me on the PS3. Lighting Returns (Can we rename it to FFXIII-3 now like it should have been?) really needs some rebalancing or direction though. I was able to get through it because I was working off a strategy guide, but the time limit is just too unforgiving if you're not managing it to an absolute T, and it's a huge shift in mental requirements compared to the other two. Couldn't get parents to be able to handle that, for example. The thing with remakes instead of remasters is that it doesn't have to be a FFVII-style massive reconstruction, it can just have a lot of bonus content and continuity fixed. They infamously mentioned that they had enough cut material for FFXIII to make two other separate games, because of all the different ideas they went through during that development hell. Obviously some of that went into the sequels, and Versus XIII, but it would still be awesome to see some things reinserted, to give more foreshadowing about what happens in FFXIII-2 and LR, to give Jill more of a thing to do and rework some of the clunkiest of dialogue, and maybe to do right by Sazh this time instead of him getting the shaft. Anyway.... Hoping the rumors are true! It's been too long since playing!

[@SatchOnSims]

I'd really love something in between a remaster and remake. Keeping the core of things like battle system but just enhanced

[@KnucklestheEcidna]

The biggest changes I want to see them do in a remaster. Give an option to run through the game MULTIPLE TIMES for Lightning returns don't limit it to just 2 tries per file. and give us a better way to manage the TIME. instead of just a limited amount of time freezes for 2 minutes. also give us a way to SLOW TIME DOWN like how Majora's mask did. For XIII-2 I agree the audio for dialogue should be louder then the background music.

[@Vaennylla]

It's kinda baffling how Final Fantasy 13 hasn't been remastered yet but Final Fantasy TYPE-0 has been remastered and ported multiple times. And they're both from the fabula crystalis universe.

[@BiggerK]

XIII is so misunderstood, I'd love for people to be able to give it another shot

[@persona3rulez]

Nah, it's not like people NOW love hallways with neverending fighting. Especially when there's not much story going on in the first half.

[@iggyig420]

​@@persona3rulez I just started chapter 11 and there is plenty of story what are you talking about about?

[@persona3rulez]

@iggyig420 the story being "we're running forward"? Yeah, Snow HAD some motive and even Lightning had a goal but first 7 chapters moving this very slowly, like 1-2 flashbacks per chapter so you don't fully understand what's going on let alone how is this supposed to get interesting after they get their marks. I mean, yeah, sure, you can play and hope it'll become interesting but many people give up somewhere around chapter 2 and 3, when they still don't fully understand who are these characters, why were they in the city and who exactly are l'Cie. Especially since the first 2 chapters is just spamming auto-battle and only chapter 3 introduces paradigms which themselves aren't fully unlocked until like... Chapter 10? You definitely can't use Synergist with Lightning until you can finally customize your party. You might argue that Lightning is DPS, she shouldn't be a Synergist but if the game is all about auto-battle I might as well watch it on KZbin. It would save me around 60 hours of my life since I've spent like 80 hours on the game. You spend like half the game running from a flashback to a flashback just to see more flashbacks later that would make characters go from "oh no, I'm scared/furious" to "well, now I'm determined to fight the government". The government itself isn't even that interesting until you met Bart, lol. The plot starts to get interesting sometime when Vanille mentions the war for the first time but it's Chapter 8 if I recall correctly. I've spent like 15 hours just to get to Chapter 7 which was kinda cool but still auto-battles. Oh, yeah, people also find Hope's revenge arc really silly and comical because it's so puberty-ish it gets edgy and almost satirical. Lightning's change of heart was also really out of nowhere and amused at least me with how emotional she gets just by thinking "oh no, we're just pets to gods". Meanwhile Snow is so optimistic he's really annoying and made people call him an r-word :( Though his tearful monologue about saving people was really cool and then again Hope just ruined it with the lame murder attempt (which makes people hate him once more). I mean, he's a teenager but that's not an excuse for a writer. People supposed to like main characters not wait for them to find some brains and rational thinking along their road movie journey. Nevertheless the story is just very foggy and slow. By Chapter 10 it's still kinda hard to understand what you're supposed to be fighting: is it fate? Gods? Evil government? All three together? Why is Vanille here again? Is Miss Big Boobs still even relevant to the plot or I can forget about her like that one guy who died in Chapter 7 ig? P.S. the funniest shit in the game is some random soldier with a name. There's one guy in Chapter 14 that appears just for one single cutscene, has a generic soldier model, does literally nothing for the plot but writers still thought he deserves a name which you can only see if you turn on the names in subtitles. Like, nobody even refers to him by name nor I found his name anywhere in datalog. It's just a random expendable trooper with a name. Why? Well, how about you play 2 more games, maybe they've retconnee him to be a god? You never know with FF13 trilogy, you never know...

[@disalazarg]

​@@persona3rulezthe opposite, actually: back then most games were linear following the Call of Duty template, so FF13 felt like an extreme version of a trend we were already fed up with. Hence why I skipped it. When I finally played it a couple of years ago, however, I'd just finished my fifth open world sandbox in a row, so its utter linearity and focus on slow, measured character building felt refreshing instead.

[@SC-cx9ti]

​@@iggyig420the issue is context. Its difficult to underdtand what is happening and why without readinf the datalogs. Its bad writing to have to read extra lore to feel invested in the character's actions. They often say stuff "we need to go over there" and "oh well I guess this is what we get for going to the fal'cie" or whatever, but WHY is that the destination and WHY is the fal'cie even kept there???? It feels like you're observing characters do what they would do, but you dont get an idea of what their world is like and god forbid you miss an implication that can be interpetted in dif ways. Thats the issue with xiii

[@Pownchao]

I need this game! I first learned about 13 through it's music in Theatrhythm for 3DS. It had my favorite soundtrack out of all titles represented there

[@fakade2987]

FFV only has 1 official remaster and it is the pixel remaster. It deserves a full scale remake more than any other in the franchise.

[@auroraboracat26]

13-2 was my favourite. The combo and having monsters fighting for you was so fun.

[@Shinesart]

I like lightning return. I like the combat and dress system. Collecting those dresses was fun and I don't really mind time limit in fact it makes me finish faster.

[@partyjams]

my biggest guess is right now most of the dev time is going into ff7 and small ff projects. but I'm not sure they'll consider doing a remake before ff17 gets into production

[@xavierbrown2098]

Let's be honest here, if they just twisted the more linear levels into somewhat expansive mazes with some extra goodies hidden at the dead ends -- like, say, extra tough battles and rewards -- that would probably placate a lot of the people who initially hated it. Sure, you'd need to give players the option to return to previous maps somehow, but then you'd have a way for them to move past tougher optional challenges without permanently missing out. Heck, just hide some extra non-consequential characters and locations in off-the-beaten-path places, like small hideouts where people who don't support the purge gather to help runaways. It doesn't affect the story, but it expands the world just a little bit, all the while giving players a reprieve from the action at various points; you can even slip the coveted mini game in there. At that point, just touch up the crystarium a little and you're golden.

[@klop4228]

And actually explaining what L'Cie and Fal'Cie are within the plot of the game rather than just in datalogs.

[@hazelcrisp]

To be fair even open world games are linear. It just gives you a big circle or arena with a few collectibles to travel in when the most optimal path is a straight line to the next point. I think of the 2013 Tomb Raider, they have big areas, but let's be real the exit is straight ahead along with maybe a few turns and an arena for the combat or stealth. If XIII had bigger areas it would literally nothing.

[@hazelcrisp]

@@klop4228 NO NO NO this would ruin it. I swear people don't know how to use their brain. They literally use the words over and over, and using context you can easily figure it out without even needing the datalogs like I do. I swear people want complex telling but don't have the capacity or media literacy to figure things out. People really want it to be spoonfed to them. The way it was implemented is organic. They characters live in that world and is common knowledge so they don't need to exposite to each other. Over of the first lines is "Don't worry, I'm not a l'cie". HOw the characters react to certain words and events. And it becoms more clear as it goes on. From this you can infer that a l'cie is something the people don't like or are scared of. They say the terms over and over throughout that it build upon it, feeling natural, instead of an exposition dump. Allowing the player to use their brain and figure it out with context. X legit explains everything to you three times. Once because pivotal plot twists are new to everyone in the party, twice because Tidus isn't part of the world and needs additional context, and thrice because Wakka is either unwilling to accept something or just flat out dumb. Or VII where BArret says he's going to save the world five times in the first area. People just want things explained to them straight away. It's okay to be confused at first. It all comes together if you infer a little bit. We especially see it now with the MCU-ification of information. Thinking the story only works if you read the data logs is why movies need to explain every bit of minutia repeatedly now. The emotional and thematic core of the story is 100% there without the data logs, they only add to the sci fi world building that doesn't add to the story but to the setting

[@seb3082]

Final fantasy 13-2 was so peak I’d honestly be happy to play it again sometime so if they remaster or remake it in any way I’d be happy as :))

[@rumotu]

Ff13 was my first FF. And tho I've played 15, 16, 7R, 12. My favourite still is OG 13.

[@madrianorita]

I'd be so down for the trilogy remaster. I got a ps3 to try and get all the trophies for the FF13 trilogy but it broke down after completing FF13. Hoping to borrow my cousin's ps3 to complete the rest.

[@starman9458]

My PS3 quit on me when I had 159 out of 160 fragments in FFXIII-2 back in 2014. I currently have my backup copy on the Xbox 360.

[@madrianorita]

@@starman9458 that's really unfortunate.

[@starman9458]

@@madrianorita It turned out that the HDMI port in the PS3 broke

[@i2egulus]

A Switch port might not be in the cards due to the size of the game. But they could definitely get things on PS4-5

[@97ajg]

You'd think it would be on since games that have come out after 13 like skyrim and the witcher work just fine on it

[@kidrobot.]

nah, they could definitely compress(?) it and/or make it download only

[@klop4228]

Switch 2?

[@hotdogs8170]

FF 13 is amazing. Great characters, stellar story, engaging combat, lovely setting.

[@Casual_Genshin_Player]

13 was the most memorable and is my favorite FF game 💖 hopefully I’ll be able to play it again on switch without having to whip out my dusty PS3

[@crowquet56]

I've always imagined a redo of 13 where the combat was mostly the same except faster paced and with timed event presses to amplify the effects of your abilities or to continue your attack combo.

[@lloganm1234]

I would play this again on any platform

[@Eat_like_Irving]

It's on Xbox

[@ZeiYuga101]

Smh i need this. I love the 13 trilogy i got all platinums on all the games

[@Jetbladewarrior]

A remaster would be a good thing for this game. 😁.

[@amazingdrewH]

...Just buy an Xbox you can play them through backwards compatibility

[@danielboyas7645]

Same. I have a xbox series x and I can buy all three.

[@disalazarg]

And play the first game at least in glorious 4k/60. IMO still one of the most gorgeous jRPGs in the market.

[@tiamod]

… But I don’t wanna buy an Xbox?

[@TheRealMisoSoup]

Bros on his grind rn

[@pforgottonsoul]

i'm definitely one of those that never tried the sequels so if SE ever does a remaster or remake i'll probably jump back into it then.

[@kidrobot.]

sheep

[@pforgottonsoul]

@@kidrobot. i played through the first one, i just genuinely didn't like it.

[@kidrobot.]

@@pforgottonsoul the sequel is more of the same but slightly more open and they included a monster catching mechanic. would that change your mind?

[@tiamod]

The sequels get better but worse at the same time. Graphically each game got worse but the gameplay got better. I really liked 13-2’s story. With Lightning Returns though, loved the gameplay but the story was a hot mess infused with MLP infused cringe writing at some points. There’s also this weird disconnect between each game, both games seem to try to distance themselves from the first one especially. Still wanna play them again though.

[@floriankremeier317]

I'm currently playing the FF13 trilogy for the first time. And I have quite a lot of fun with it.

[@8Phoenix8]

I love to buy a REMAKE :) adding the data logs to the whole story

[@ArceusZer035]

💚100% agree with all of your additions, one QoL of a remaster for the first game is the paradigm shift camera/wait time. That can ruin some fights waiting to act as everyone does their little animations. If we get a FFXIII remake...give us a Fang and Vanille prequel part showing us how Pulse before the decay and cie'th takeover or separate media like prequel game or movie.

[@ngchloe4877]

I wish more people got a chance to actually play the games. I personally love the first one(and will get to the sequels eventually)

[@MyBloved143]

I find it interesting 13 is having this resurgence, I’ve been seeing it everywhere on YT and TIKTOK

[@krisnantoprayogosantoso4033]

I thank the whole western gaming community and two of my college friends whose bashing of FFXIII circa 2010-2011 made me very curious and actually encourage me to buy a PS 3 and a copy of FF XIII. This trilogy was very fun and refreshing. The conclusion at Lightning Returns was very beautiful and satisfying.

[@Tilmett]

I just hope there's some proper work done to it. If they end up just giving us the PC or One X Enhanced versions with some tweaks, I'll be the first say it's better than nothing, but I'm not sure I'd pay for that. A remake would be cool but surely take longer

[@matthewcharles9813]

My personal issue was the characters were just awful (not one single character i liked), gameplay was just not fun, and the story is just bad in so so many ways. When there are so many games that do everything better, it just killed any enjoyment i could find with it. For years the only defense i heard was it gets about after 20 some hours. Yeah that equals a bad game. If you love it, awesome. But please don't act surprise why people hate our dislike 13. It's a bad game with a very niche charm for some people. Ps. I played at launch and came to this opinion before seeing other people's opinions.

[@AlloftheAboveG]

You don't need game pass to play the games, if you have the discs you can just pop them in.

[@AnywhereMiami]

I love the Fabula Nova Cristallis (xiii trilogy). The music, the characters, the emotions, the FANTASY….. ❤️🤧

[@calvinmatthews1527]

With how Bandai Namco has treated the Tales series until recently, be thankful you only have these three games missing from modern consoles.

[@The111Primagen]

I dust off my 360 and replay these games every couple of years- to this day they are still some of my favorite games of all time. People that sleep on the XIII trilogy are seriously missing out 👍

[@HeyShotgun]

Versus 13 is in the whispers of nemuras work in kh4… maybe … maybe they’re granting him his final wish with making noctis full dark story.. 😪

[@unseeninja83]

Having a remaster for 13 would be awesome. Wasn’t my favorite since X was my favorite, but I did really like the entirety of 13. XIII-2 was the best in my option between the 3 lightning returns being the worst of them but I still really liked lightning returns.

[@Voltackle86]

Still happy I didn't listen to the hate back then and decided to play the trilogy for myself. Ended up falling in love with all 3 games and platinumed each. Miss those days.

[@nightcorewb4949]

The FF9 Remake leak also said something about not being on the scale of FF7R so for a FF13 Remake they could take that route but I doubt it. I see them doing a remaster just like Crisis Core. Also with the NG+ for 13-1 and 13-2 please Square add a infinite timer to Lighting Returns as a NG+ or Endgame feature.

[@mohammedallha61]

13 was great and I do believe people will love it more if they re release it on modern hardwares ps4/5 Xbox and switch they just need add few improvements fps maybe adding few extra more missions to improve the story

[@jeannecaelum5167]

i just blew through the trilogy on PS3 again, we really need a Remaster. It has its issues sure, but Nostalgia is strong Maybe they have some backend issues on their side, porting or upgrading it, something might not go as well and they need to take their time. Who knows

[@roberto.duse.86]

The Needy Streamer Overload background music tho 😍😍😍

[@tionik06]

13 on PC with japanese voices makes the characters so much better. One of my favorite FF stories. The battle system was awesome too.

[@Anthony-fz9ye]

I emulated the Steam FFXIII on my M1 MacBook Air and played through recently. I just used a couple of mods and it looked so good, and I enjoyed it more than I thought. I didn’t mind the linearity at all because I’m kind of a collectaholic, so I spend ages in open world games kinda wasting time running around lol. Remake that made the story more understandable and made it less linear would be cool but the game is still good as is.

[@ashleysmith2512]

yes definitrly need ff13 on all platforms physical games. and why didnt ff15 pocket edition make a physical release to all platforms i have every ff games release to switch ps4 and ps5 these are the only games we need in our collection now yes there are some DS psp games i would like to see on switch ps4 ps5 like 4 heroes of light and ds/psp version of final fantasy 3 then it would be complete wishful thinking here maybe ff7 remake on switch if switch 2 can handle the game. im in. and what ever happen to final fantasy type 1 and agni's philosophy final fantasy.

[@Just-a-random-guy.]

I really want to play XII. I don't care if people hate or it's bad. I want to play and I want it now

[@TakiGamesOfficial]

13 was my first FF game as well! I enjoyed it personally. Loved the character designs too. I would love if they went the FF16 route with it and pushed the boundary further into action game territory. Make Lightning the next legendary hack and slash heroine like 2B / Eve. I like linear so I had no issues with it. I absolutely hated FF Rebirth’s openness it just felt too vacationy. I want a very linear and focused storyline no screwing around.

[@ElJosher]

This would be a dream come true. I have the pc ports and it is a pain in the ass to deal with. I would re buy it if the made a proper remaster, with proper pc setting options, and ultrawide support.

[@western_gunner]

Im surprised seeing how warm the comments here about FF13 as far as I saw, I thought its hated in general. My first 13 was Lightning Returns, I like Lightnings design alot, she's one of the best looking chara, but the story in overall is so confusing that makes me dont remember most of the story other that Lightning wants to save Serah.

[@markwalker091]

I think 13 needs a Remake, not a Remaster. I believe an additional 10 to 20 hours of content that directly engages the Player with the Lore, Backstory, and history of The Fabula Nova Crystalis Series. There's too much Lore you have to go the logs to get. Also they should completely remake FF type 0 / agito and fold in back in as a side story to the FF13 series.

[@laraechesney]

I'm so tired of the 13 hate,I love the characters and I want to play the games on newer consoles (specifically the Switch). It feels so damn unfair that all the other FF mainlines have gotten re releases and 13 trilogy hasn't. The 'newer' old consoles are not nearly as hearty and hale as the older ones...when my 360/PS3 stop working inevitably, I'll never be able to play again :( Not everyone can even afford PCs OR consoles these days...so we need options!

[@Danorpx]

I remember when I played XIII-2 for some reason I never bothered to look for a fix to all the crashing issues until I was like 70% done with it lmfao. I had to redo so many things because it would crash when I tried to save. 😂

[@Baguettish]

I'd love if they give it the FFXII TZA treatment and update/optimize some aspects of the game, namely the weirdly punishing weapon upgrade system. upgrading the weapons felt like such a huge commitment and didn't really allow for experimentation or mistakes, but also is entirely useless before chapter 11. would be nice if hey made more systems open up and become relevant earlier in the game, rather than saving the real 'meat and potatoes' for so late in the game.

[@MS-ej9ot]

Sorry for off-topic but I'm dying to see a Rebirth Harem-video from you!

[@LeviathanXVer3]

The minimum they got to do is up the textures, up to 4k resolution, unlocked fps, and make is freaking work on modern hardware. Ultrawide screen support would be nice, but we all know SE can't bother with that.

[@hazelcrisp]

FFXIII is my favourite JRPG. I have it on PC. But i just want it rereleased so I can play it on my PS5. I also realised that if there is a port or whatever I have to see everyone dunking on it and complaning about things that I find to be non-issues.

[@cser2453]

if they made a remaster or remake i would 100% buy was my 1st FF game and i loved it.

[@bernhardspogat8164]

If they put ffxiii trilogy on tge switch would give them a new home and new generations to play it was a great trilogy it would make alot of money

[@jstewart_1]

I started a playthrough of 13 on steam deck last week (runs great btw). First time touching have since original launch. At chapter 8. I corridors don't bother me as much as i thought. Main complaint, and not sure how to fix, is that it takes forever for combat to get interesting.

[@turkey660]

The first XIII is still my favorite Final Fantasy to this game, and with my mixed feelings on the changes to the FF7 remake aside, I'd personally like a remaster that just executes the plot a bit better. Redub the lines with some better direction (especially for the EN voice actors since I remember Vanille's VA voicing a concern durung development), incorporate some unity between the 3 titles gameplay (I agree that XIII-2's gameplay loop/flow feels really damn good), maybe a hard mode or special difficulty that kinda pulls from Lightning Returns with a push for completing the game quickly to beat the in universe time limit pushed on the characters. I'd really like the story, as is, to get proper showing. I feel like unlike FF7 and its remake, which get a fair treatment of "these are two different approaches to the same story and you can still get a worthwhile experience out of the original game", FF13 would get more "There is the good 13 and the bad 13. You don't even have to play the bad one." Granted that may just be my bias against a lot of online lines of logic. Great video! 👍👍👍

[@Thesakuraharona]

I have to be honest, I briefly played this when it first released and judged it rather harshly. Something about that first 2 hours just grinded with me bad. I do agree that most of the series is linear, but many of the games give you some level of open space to roam in freely early on. The battle system is also quite different, so that is offputting too.

[@DesertRainReads]

I would welcome a remastering of the Lightning Saga as I call the FFXIII trilogy, I enjoyed the games for what they were and are. Were they the best ever? No, but they were rock solid RPGs. Final Fantasy XIII could benefit from the QoL improvements made to the battle system in XIII-2 and maybe they could even add more content to all the games too. That would be cool.

[@kirbyeatsyou5248]

Wow this came out at the perfect time lol. I'm playing through the 13 trilogy right now for the first time (PS3 cause my PC = potato). On 13-2 currently

[@003SONE]

I need this triolgy on modern consoles! Great video!

[@InzeDev]

I think the problem with XIII at this point is the sheer difficulty of making a solid port vs the potential payoff. XIII-1 had it's share of mechanical and narrative issues that turned people off of it and killed it's marketing potential from squenix's viewpoint. You can see the direct result the damage it did by looking at the sales numbers of 2 and 3, selling less despite being superior products. Sequels and remasters don't succeed based off their own merits, they succeed base don what came before. There is 100% a dedicated playerbase that would pick up a trilogy bundle without a second thought, but it's more about the SIZE of that playerbase. The reason remasters are so prevalent is because they're easier to do than making a whole new game. Unfortunately XIII had so many development problems it's generated mountains of technical debt and you might as well make a whole new game. All of that combined with the fact that it was an attempted integration of Ivalice that ultimately failed and got turned into something else entirely, it might also be a sore spot for the company that they're not super interested in pursuing. The tweets of whoever manages their social media is likely just testing the waters. They want to see how much noise something like that would make to gauge how much effort the series is worth.

[@spartan8696]

We need a remake. I think the entire trilogy is perfect, however they can fix that "linear" issue so many people complain about.

[@BoxamusPrime]

YES!!! XIII-2 is also my favorite FF game!!

[@gray-fox6789]

I dont care what people says, but i pove FF13 so much...would love to play them again with current gen technology with improved visual upgrades ❤❤❤

[@Joe_334]

Something about this trilogy reminds me of the fall/Winter Season...

[@niklasfeldbusch318]

I loved everything about FF 13. I still hope we get at least a remaster but a bitter hope for is actually that sony plans to get ps3 games working on PS5.

[@bluecoin3771]

You would not believe how rampant the hate for these games were back in the 2010s. It was pathological.

[@Misha_isadorible]

I want to see this game on switch so my Final fantasy games could be complete and so i could play the games for the first. i actually want to learn more about the game, that's how much i hope Square makes a remake or re release.

[@emmanueljimenez6525]

I still play on my PS3 (Yes, it still works). I would love a remake or re-release of this trilogy.

[@Black7780]

Oddly enough, I found FFXIII trilogy worked much better on my Steam Deck at 30 fps compared to my more powerful Windows setup.

[@doolallievail8591]

Got bored of 13 after a few hours but played again a few years later and realised why, it felt like the game played it's self and was veryone pathed. If a remaster would change that the I would give it a play.

[@matiasjauhojarvi9551]

I would like to see a Final Fantasy 13 trilogy on the switch.

[@misapheonix]

What the series in general needs is WAY better mod support. The pre XI games are considered god tier for a reason, and we need a way to add the gameplay depth in ourselves. Cus' as good as the new FFs have been, they can always been half as good again! xP

[@Xris_Kinder]

[@YohSou]

I would rather go full remake to remaster. I think FF13 as a series had a lot of sauce, but didn't have enough time to cook. The concepts and world is very interesting, but you have to take the time to read it in codexs to get the full picture. That said I don't think the characters are bad as they said and the music is top notch. Remake could enhance the "hallway" problem and add additional puzzles to get better rewards or take mechanics from the sequel and implement them into the first game. I do think a new writer could help solidify the issues of the narrative and pacing, plus better cohesively tie all three games. The game could also go full action combat pretty well, as it'll need something to give it a sales gimmick as FF13 doesn't have the best reputation with fans/general gamers alike. It could be a switchable system like FF7:RM.

[@A-XIII]

With this being my favorite title that I never finished (still need to play Lightning Returns), I've been more or less disappointed with the Steam experience when playing the first two games. I've been trying to hold out for a remaster in order to play the last one, but I feel like Square just doesn't want to give us what we XIII fans want 😓 I also feel like it's just wasted potential, seeing as it's the only title that has a three-part trilogy and it's all been gatekept behind old consoles and poorly-converted ports.

[@cruxxxmusic]

I have strong nostalgic Feelings for ff 13 and 13-2, i would buy this shit instantly

[@shub125]

Yeah i wouldn't mind a remaster. But maybe impove the combat, mainly merging spells and attacks type of thing. I mean the gameplay resembles legia so why not go all the way were certain moves and attacks can merge into a new attack.

[@NOT4SAKEN]

FF 13 runs great on xbox series s 👍

[@GlerpidyGlarson]

I loved 13 and lightning returns and even though I got clock master in 13-2 I will never do that or play that game for the rest of my life.

[@cue0987]

Still happy i have these on discs

[@doomtrigger]

Fun fact an old leak was that final fantasy X was getting a 3rd game and 13 was getting a remake where all 3 games were now the main game

[@Shibanobi]

It's so funny that while these games were originally releasing, it felt like they just wanted everything to be about FF13 and its world and its lore, and at the time i couldnt really get into it, so every time they released a new FF13 i was just like UUGH MOVE ON. Now i'd really like an optimized release on PC because after listening to your vids on 2 and 3 I feel like I would like it! dumb little rant: It's genuinely frustrating watching SE release every game except for ones I actually want to play. but the upside is i save more money and play fewer games, which is good! I like the original, turn-based FF7! I wanted them to remake *THAT* game, not make a totally-different version that's not even one game 😭 im not even saying the ff7 direction they went with is bad it's just not what I'm personally looking for.

[@vincent207]

Really sucks how certain costumes and music can't be used in remasters or remakes thanks to expired licenses.

[@RobertWWD]

I hope someday all the Final Fantasy games comes to Nintendo Switch.

[@Trowelhands]

I enjoyed the trilogy enough to platinum them. Lightning Returns felt like a longer and more in-depth version of Majora's Mask.

[@AeonX86]

As much as the battle system was hated in 13, I liked paradigm shifting. Well once you got 3 party members, mostly. I liked 13-2 a lot as well but not the characters so much. Lighting returns I'd love to replay cause I played through it only once and remember confusion. My older self would take the time. Plus I hated the game timer as a mechanic. Unless I'm forgetting something. But yeah, remaster all 3 imo. Square sis say they were going ro work on remasters/remakes and smaller titles in the coming years. Fingers crossed. At least the 1st 13.