Final Fantasy 7 : Cut Content & History [Part 3] | Cut Content

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thank you all soooooo much for watching and following us on this FF7 series to its end. It was one of my biggest dreams on this channel next to my Ocarina of Time series to do one on FF7. Fix Notes: 8:24 - Apparently I did the incorrect pronounciation of Costa Mesa here... blame that on me being Canadian :P 16:38 - Typo here by saying 1999 instead of 1997. November 17, 1997 being the correct European release date

[@Vulpas]

@@TheObsessiveGamer FF7 and OoT were some of your best videos, excellent job. Looking forward to what's next, hopefully more Nintendo content, my favorite.

[@nathanc6516]

You've done a great job with this series of cut content from FF7.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

@@---ul4in That's definitely something I can look into for the future. Also I got a video actually on that add-on of the SNES CD under my Nintendo Playstation video if interested :)

[@GregHuffman1987]

now do chrono trigger

[@Mohawk_Productions]

So you’re asking us to blame Canada! Blame Canada! Everything’s gone wrong since Canada came along We can do that

[@serphenhell13]

i remember playing a demo disc from pizza hut (late 90's) that had the The Guard Scorpion battle sequence. even had sled storm with the remix of rob zombie's living dead girl & dragula on it.

[@laddieb5960]

How amazing! I thought I knew everything there was to know about ff7 until I watched this series. Thanks for making it

[@RyanBlazeheart]

Ah yes in 1997 i was at my Grandma's house and cried watching "that scene" with my cousin. This game def had a good release here.

[@Folami-Marijani]

LMAO

[@RyanBlazeheart]

@@Folami-Marijani I'm serious he brought the game and his PS1 and we watched the famous scene together. And then my dad bought the game with some encouragement from him.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

That scene I feel traumatized out generation through and through. It was a good time

[@jgwinnel]

Always a solid video. I remember when it was announced for the PSX in August 1995 or so and it was my mission to get the console. I still have the original demo discs from Tobal and PlayStation Underground as well as the game. I got real lucky back in 1997 when a local game shop broke street date by a week early and sold me my preorder, perfect way to finish out the Summer. 👌🏻

[@nickelarcade6934]

Good times. First game I played that I stayed up overnight on the weekend to play. So good!

[@Tocat-l4r]

I’m 😅

[@sorarmojoanakket.5615]

I remember @whatphoto channel had a video of that ff7 GIRL SO SEXY👇🍑🍑🤗

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thank you! and man, what a time to be able to experience that directly. I was more focused on the N64 at that time (and maybe a little too young) to have paid too much attention its marketing then. Would have loved to have experienced that hype that was being built

[@jgwinnel]

@@TheObsessiveGamer I still loved the N64 but I was a Squaresoft and JRPG fanboy in the days of the NES / SNES when those were rare back then. The PS1 to me was the peak for Squaresoft - so many great titles from that era, especially FF9 which I think was the swan song of the classic style JRPG's of the era.

[@ianstedman8672]

I bought a playstation specifically for Final Fantasy 7 that year. I was there.

[@WideHorizons90]

Should also be mentioned that FF7 was the first numbered Final Fantasy game released in Europe which is why it's so popular and regarded as many people's favourite Final Fantasy game.

[@MartinX192]

its hard now for younger people to see, but this game was on such epic proportion at the time. It was such a journey that will always be in my heart. I dont have an interest in the "remake" at all. IMO there was no need, luckily the modding community makes better content and stays truer to the original than square these days

[@robertharper3114]

Yeah. Remake doesn't hold a candle to the original. Remake sucks!

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

While I was old enough to game, I unforutnatlely was also too young to notice the media hype. Wish I had experienced that at the time haha. I personally like the Remake as it's still different enough to not make the originals obsolete (especially with our neat PC modding of the game now)

[@genyakozlov1316]

Nice to know that the media hype improved your enjoyment of the game. Hope you returned to play the superior earlier entries afterwards though. 7 does not make my FF top 10 personally.

[@acerimmer8338]

I've played that cut Honey Bee section thanks to modders. I was laughing my ass off! It was genuinely hilarious and over the top. Palmer slunking away was my favorite.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Honestly was some of the most hilarious parts. Wish we did get it.

[@felman87]

Love FF7. Got me to buy the system.

[@TheSpiderPan]

I remember getting my day one copy. wish I still had it. would be a collectible now.

[@SacrificeMegs]

OMG I've been waiting for this video to drop🎉

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Hope you enjoyed :)

[@gjtrue]

I don't remember even seeing that " . . . was caught by surprise." text in the game. What causes that?

[@BryceNeuner]

Sneak Attack materia, which is won from the A or S Rank class Chocobo races.

[@zachhawkins5005]

​@@BryceNeuner That's right, isn't it if it fails?

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

As BryceNeuner said. It's a rare instance but still many more of these kinda examples in the game.

[@thingsiplay]

This 3 part series of Cut Content exploration is just fitting to the original 3 CD parts of the game, or the new Remake split up in 3 games.

[@rboidavenboi6335]

This game along with when it was released and just everything involved. It was truly catching lightning in a bottle!

[@bakacdaz]

Kitase after seeing Toriyama idea : Did you forgot our game is Rate T!? (Or whatever it is on CERO standard)

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

I really wish we could have gotten a live reaction of all that lol

[@TouhouEXPolaros]

Vey informative and direct! very nice o7

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thank you :D

[@UltimajaCrystal]

Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I remember seeing an image of Jessie somewhere as an sprite like those of Cloud, Barret and Aerith in the video, the post battle screen. Did I just dream it? I can't find such thing anywhere.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Haven't seen that before but if you find it, let me know! :)

[@DoodlesGaming]

Great series. But, FF7 also released in Europe in 97

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Yeah sorry typo there, I meant 97. Added that to the Pinned Fix notes

[@DoodlesGaming]

@@TheObsessiveGamer it's all good, just something that caught my attention in case you wanted to correct it. Love the series, coincidentally discovered the first two episodes the day before part 3 went live so perfect timing. Excited for the next series

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

@@DoodlesGaming Amazing coincidence. Glad you enjoyed them all!

[@DannyPotato]

@@DoodlesGamingme too wow

[@Koniving]

Team of 50? I'd imagine 50 people couldn't do nearly so bad. I'm curious why the sole translator story persisted for so long? "Who translated Final Fantasy 7? The game credits aren't entirely clear as to who all was involved in each translation, but signs seem to point to Michael Baskett as the sole translator and Aiko Ito as the localization coordinator."

[@infernape100]

man, 1997...I was 2 years old when it came out, turning 3 that december.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Yeah I was still rather young then so I didn't pay much attention to such hype. My focus at that time to was the N64 and like Mario 64, so I unfortunately couldn't experience the hype at the time

[@JO-iv7tl]

I thought aeris name was intentional. Since it sounded like heiress. As in heiress to the planet of her people.

[@thingsiplay]

Final Fantasy 7 was the first Final Fantasy launched in Germany. So from our perspective this is actually Final Fantasy 1 and all previous entries are -1, -2 and so on. :D At least just logically speaking, nobody actually said -1 or -2 in example.^^

[@lightfm90]

Final Fantasy 7 was also the first mainline Final Fantasy to hit Europe.

[@napoleonfeanor]

Localisers and translators are two different positions. Many modern Localisers do not speak Japanese.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Yeah which I made the distinction. I said the "localization process" and included that there was ateam of 50 of them but 1 "translator" amongst them, with notice "localizers" and "professional editors" on board. That was me listing 3 positions infact right there in the video.

[@Chigurh007]

Nice video, can you do a re1,5?

[@Bardock7132]

And re: outbreak 1/2 plz

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

...about that, I literally am in the middle of writing it haha

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

@@Bardock7132 At some point I can :) Currently going through the main RE series

[@finalfanvii6822]

Gonna watch this on my time off and going to Sub if theirs more content like this

[@napoleonfeanor]

In Germany, it was so badly translated that all other games were to be translated independently from Japanese. I played the German PC Version back then

[@pathfinderproject9381]

Same

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Oof so the German version got an independent localization from the rest of Europe? I couldn't really find examples but anything that comes to mind that was bad?

[@pathfinderproject9381]

@@TheObsessiveGamer I was actually wondering why you didn't cover the German release since it was quite a catastrophic release

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

@@pathfinderproject9381 I actually did try to find more on the European releases. Really couldn't find anything covering it. Maybe they're covered in their respective languages, which is why they never pop up otherwise

[@napoleonfeanor]

@TheObsessiveGamer No, FF7 was first translated from English so a secondary translation. Not sure if the other European ones were,too, but the German one was so bad that they changed that habit for the later games

[@PrimeStarStudios]

I was first introduced to FFVII by Gamefan! And the rest was history!

[@briandear1401]

With how you access the honey bee inn it may as well have been cut unfortunately.

[@robertharper3114]

Meh. It was made to be optional..

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

But it was still pretty mandatory to the story?

[@BeIlG]

costa me sa X'D. I've never heard it that way. I have only heard: coast -ah(almost like coastal but ah instead of al) may-sa(this makes it rhyme between the two words/names)

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

My mistake. I mean as a Canadian, those aren't words you normally would hear or say afterall lol

[@GregHuffman1987]

11:00 its called Grawlix

[@HesGotaGun505]

All that effort to keep the Honeybee Inn in the game, and I accidentally skipped it on my current playthrough.

[@dreadpirates_]

diamond ... weapon ...battle ... ??????? WHAT !!!!!!

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

I presume you played Japanese 1.0?

[@keip4568]

Can you do Pokémon Channel & the 2 GameCube games or Chibi robo if possible?

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

I do at least have plans for Pokemon Colosseum and Gale of Darkness. The others here I can look into to see if something can be made on them as well :)

[@Sonicfalcon16]

What europe exclusive cutscens?

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

They didn't as far as I know. They got the same ones as the West did.

[@jesusadrian759]

It's funny that they want to Delete the Honey Been for the girls, but no one thought of Cloud's "gay" scene with the guys in thongs XD, whatever, beautiful game, and beautiful videos friend 🚬🚬, Greetings.

[@ganjaman59650]

I still play tobal 2 smotimes to this day, it's just leagues above tekken 3 , best 3d fighter on the system.

[@BeIlG]

yeah, I'm pretty glad we didn't get a brothel in the game lol. WTF were they thinking!? lol great video!

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

I mean it still kinda was a brothel, it just wasn't AS obvious it seemed haha and thanks!

[@fromthegamethrone]

Even as a kid I thought it was obvious that it was a brothel

[@ryandoran4433]

WTF am I looking at at 12:04 in this video? How in the hell are there Xbox buttons in FF7?

[@ganymede4030]

I would imagine that footage is from the PC version with modded button prompts. Edit: Oh actually it looks like there's an Xbox port. It's gotta be from that

[@keip4568]

Kirby Air Ride maybe?

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

I'd love to cover Kirby in general, so that's something i'd very much like to check out one day

[@bread.on.toast.]

Yaaaaaa a 3rd one

[@SnowCoveredKK]

Coasta-MAY-SA

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thanks, it's in the fix notes. PS. I'm Canadian and it's not something we're toooo commonly hearing or saying, so apologies for not knowing to proper pronounciation of that.

[@SnowCoveredKK]

@@TheObsessiveGamerit’s ok! I assumed it was something like that!

[@deathstinger13]

for as much of a legend that FF7 apparently is, it's never really been able to hold this one's attention of yet. It's tried playing a couple times, but has never gotten past midgar(technically it got out of midgar once, but it put the game down for the day and never picked it up again). Ironcially, this has led to this one buying the game twice, once on PSP and once on PS4. Maybe some day, perhaps after it tires of PSO2(or gets something else to play it on, or someone buys it the switch version of 7), this one'll try again EDIT: speaking of Phantasy Star, it would be great to see you cover any of the games in the frachise. There must be a fair bit of note between the original quadrilogy and the Online and onward style of games

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Perhaps maybe try the Remake? I know some find that one more appealing. A demo exists for it to see if you'd like that better. As for Phantasy Star (or even PSO), since i've successfully now explores Sonic games and opened the door to Sega, they're definitely games i'd like to one day explore. PSO especially since that one holds alot of nostalgia on my end.

[@deathstinger13]

@@TheObsessiveGamer played the first remake, but no PS5 means no playin the rest

[@DannyPotato]

Why are you referring to yourself in that way

[@deathstinger13]

@@DannyPotato does it matter?

[@chikato7106]

haha Costa Misa... locally it's pronounced Coasta Messa

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Well I guess that's how it's pronounced. Something a Canadian like me learns today haha

[@Vulpas]

Too bad that Honey Bee Inn had cut content, I wish the unfiltered vision for the game would've been released. FF7R is woke, rubbing salt in the wound and ensuring the one chance to improve the game actually ended up making it worse.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

I wouldn't call FF7R "woke", especially after Rebirth's beach scene with Tifa there, but I agree on wishing for the orignal Honey Bee Inn being restored. Hope the PC Modding community one day just restores it in whole

[@Vulpas]

@@TheObsessiveGamer It was definitely not as bad as it could've been, in comparison to their other games like FF16 (though to be fair, some of that was only present in localization, same for censorship). But yeah, thank goodness for modders!

[@teruienages962]

14:17 That kind of thing really pisses me off when people literally don't understand what the first amendment is before they start whining about it. It doesn't mean that you should be allowed to say whatever you want or shoot your mouth off without being criticized for it or facing consequences like firing from a job or expulsion from a school or public building by it's management, and it doesn't offer ANY explicit protections against art produced and owned by a corporate entity who has 100% every right and final say on how they get to release or put self-imposed limitations or alter their OWN content... (also this video is inaccurate about Squaresoft being in any position to forbid censorship of their game. Sony, as the publisher of the game had SOLE decision making rights on whether or not it would be cut, and Square would have had only two choices at that point.... either accept the terms, or back out of and leave the project. And seeing as that would have been career-ending if Square left this game they just spent that much to produce, they wouldn't have, either. It was 100% Sony's decision, and thus them changing their mind was 100% Sony's decision as well.) (Also Square as a Japanese company HAS no First Amendment, so I don't even know why this is being brought up in the first place.) But people in this country, especially today need to start understanding what the First Amendment is. First Amendment rights just means that you cannot be unjustly jailed or be subjected to specific legal penalties for expressing non-harmful statements as an individual in a public setting. Free Speech applies to someone being allowed the right to a peaceful, non-threatening protest or to be a conscientious objector to things like military decrees in a public setting. It DOESN'T cover things like causing harmful lies that interfere with other legal human rights that take precedence, spreading harmful misinformation, slander or libel, and it absolutely does not have any jurisdiction over corporately owned art. The Honeybee Inn and it's place in a video game doesn't even BEGIN to factor into any discussion of what "Free Speech" is because Sony (and not Square as they gave up publishing rights in America anyway) had absolutely every right to either leave it in, or remove it as per THEIR decision on how THEY wish to release their OWN property. The fact that so many ignorant, whiny entitled fanboys thought the Honeybee Inn was some kind of "first amendment" issue is the kind of stupidity and ignorance one should expect from a first grader, not anyone older than 13 with any kind of understanding of reality.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Regarding your part about "also this video is inaccurate about Squaresoft being in any position to forbid censorship of their game." I agree, and I never said that. I said that is what SQUARE said. Not me.

[@unshr0]

That is why remake was Grbage

[@Dustin-e7h]

yep

[@gjtrue]

Looks like even way back then you had to worry about and deal with moral busybodies and being "politically correct." I never new the original FFVII had to go through such nonsense.

[@acerimmer8338]

Yeah, it's funny how it was the far-right-wing evangelicals at the time, while nowadays it's the far-left-wing individuals. There's always someone complaining about PC.

[@Fauntleroy.]

This has nothing to do with busybodies butting into game development. Square decided the Honeybee was just a step too far all on their own and then they had to negotiate a final state with Sony. Compare this game to FF6 and everything that came before it. Square was open to expanding what content they'd have in their games, but they wanted to go 0 to 60, not 0 to 100. It seems silly now, but it wasn't then. Move too fast and some customers might say "This is just too different from the previous games, I don't like it." I don't blame them for being cautious.

[@Fauntleroy.]

​@@acerimmer8338You mad that you can't shout the N word in public without people getting sore?

[@Vaquix000]

It's not nonsense. It was going too far at that point and was just pretty gross, I can see why the creators put a stop to it.

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

90s were crazy with this stuff. Since games were seen as nothing more than toys by most adults then, they thought it had to be watered down for kids even if the game wasn't being made for them (even when the ESRB was made as a result of Mortal Kombat and some other games) So thus anything too violent, sexual, or religious was censored. Thankfully it was a changing time since hte ESRB had JUST came in and Sony probably agreed to slap a T rating and call it a day. But as for toning it down internally, Square staff probably themselves just didn't want the game to get toooo sleazy, which that in itself makes sense since that's creatives deciding it and not executives.

[@monotypical_]

All this is fake. I worked for square back then. I was there!

[@dreadpirates_]

sure bud .... i found the bot guys !!!!

[@ko55579]

Risqué stuff being added by Motomu Toriyama,What a legend 4:08 😅

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

And then he went on to make and waifu Lightning for the 13 trilogy lol

[@sharkulashairstylist5505]

Really r u kidding? Jrpgs ruled the marketplace and the inevitable growth of the gaming world. Where you born yesterday? Have you ever heard of Y's....

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

You clearly were not of that era of the early 90s. JRPGs were very niche. They did NOT sell well in the west back then. FF7 is the reason they started to get popular at all. It's why Sony had to get creative with it. In Japan, they were of course very popular, but otherwise no.

[@weirdshitcoolideas]

God I love this series.. and final fantasy

[@TheObsessiveGamer]

Thank you! :) and same :D

[@weirdshitcoolideas]

@@TheObsessiveGamer I am going to scan your channel but will you do this with any other FFs or any other games in general? I like the episodic nature of this style