Final Fantasy VII References In Final Fantasy XIV

[@avelinevarlineau7123]

When you enter camp dragonhead, the room where Haurchefant gives you the first quests... there is a group of recruits doing squats. Their commander is telling them that he knows a guy called Zack, who is doing sqats way better than them ^^

[@NymphsOrisons]

HOW DID I MISS HIM TALKING ABOUT ZACK?? *immediately logs in to see this*

[@ZephSeph]

A minor reference can be seen in Alphascape 4.0 as well, where Omega-M and Omega-F will use Cosmo Memory (Red XIII’s final limit break) as their limit break.

[@kristinacastanj2891]

Some additional stuff I though might be or straight up are VII references: 1. An NPC in Yanxia named Hojo. In his quest "Beyond the Powers of Stone" he is "searching for a strapping specimen to help with some heavy lifting." 2. In the first area of The Dead Ends dungeon the houses you see look very similar to the shell shaped houses in City of the Ancients. Plus the referens to a sickness that turned the habitants into monsters, much like what happened to the Cetra after Jenova appeared. 3. This may be just me but the end of the lvl 30 Gladiator quest, the final confrontation between Aldis and Leavold, was very reminiscent of how it ended between Barret and Dyne. Especially Dyne and Leavold meeting the same fate and them having been old friends just like Barret and Dyne. And just as a extra note, in the Japanese dub of FFXIV they straight up refer to Thordan and his knights as Knight of Round after you've fought them in primal form.

[@kristinacastanj2891]

Love the videos btw. Looking forward to more!

[@kaihedgie1747]

Here's some stuff ya missed: The hairstyle "Great Lengths" is based on Sephiroth's hairstyle. Additionally, the idle stance for male Samurais is based on his winpose. Probably as a fun little jab, during the end of the 5.4 story, Zenos is seen holding the Odenta, a nodachi weapon for Dark Knights, probably in reference to how he and Sephiroth seem pretty similar. The Heavens' Ward full on attack is a direct translation of the original summon animation, all appearing in the exact same order, using many of the same attacks and the background changing to correspond with each one. Some of the Red Mage's aesthetic is taken after Genesis Rhapsodos. In particular, the first artifact weapon, the Murgleis, is modeled after his Rapier. Additionally, Fleche and Contre Sixte are based on Genesis' Flash attack where he could toss magic swords

[@GimmeTOKYO]

I never knew that about the RDM stuff, neat!

[@timalice-2833]

I was thinking of the Genesis reference while watching this.

[@markpeterson7716]

Love the series, very high quality. Makes me appreciate both FFXIV and the original games even more

[@giovanniperfetti5283]

Amazing video, only thing I can think you missed was dark knight's /vpose and /bstance references clouds victory animation and battle stance

[@Autobalance]

D'oh you're right! Thank you!

[@LazyJesse]

I think that's just for male animations though

[@lancelot717]

Arent they both inspired by Guts from Berserk though?

[@Aschera]

btw there's actual cait sith that show up in the game... one in the void ark alliance raid and another or possibly the same one in an endwalker area.

[@NymphsOrisons]

The Ancients themselves are a kind of allusion to the Cetra--beings who lived in harmony with the planet until a calamity from the sky destroyed them.

[@TheAuron32]

and boy does Endwalker deliver on that...

[@Phantomyre]

Very nice break down and inclusion! You forgot to mention that Yin Yang from the Shinra Manor are also included in some dungeons. They are minor enemies but still a strong direct reference.

[@Lorkanthal]

in castrum abania, the lvl 69 dungeon, there are magitek pods that look very similar to the pods found in nibelheim's reactor. And if not destroyed fast enough they release a monstrous looking person to attack your party. Much like the pods in the reactor also contain monstrous looking people inside of them.

[@duraeusentenu]

I'm so glad you mentioned Ungarmax and the GC company squadrons! So many people forget the squads once they leave HW

[@andreahamilton6296]

Amazing series! Just finished binge watching all the ones up so far and can't wait for the next one!! Definitely a sub

[@AlleluiaElizabeth]

I knew there were several references, but I had no idea there were THIS many. Well done.

[@cosmicneko7225]

there's a boss in one of the later heavensward dungeons, i can't remember the name, but he's a dark knight and he's in cloud's combat stance similarly, the victory pose emote for dark knight mimics cloud's victory animation on that note, dark knight's battle pose emote ends with briefly standing in cloud's combat stance

[@skywithnolimit]

Didn't see this mentioned in the comments so in FF7: Advent Children with Zack & Cloud having a pep-talk(I guess?) is similar to the WoL & Ardbert scene in 5.0 Shadowbringers, which both takes place near the end of their respective title.

[@Altharionn]

My favourite reference might be the "Unknown" found in Anamnesis Anyder, since it's one of the enemies you find in the sunken plane in FF7. That area was so freaky!

[@Soulsnatcher89]

Eh that's really a reference to FF5. They originated there as oppose to 7, 7 referenced 5 in that case

[@NineLuzgar]

Spoilers for Endwalker: In Elpis you got a lot of the Ancients talking about "returning to the planet" just like Cetra said in FFVII, continuing the circle of life. The whole idea of the Ancients in Elpis seem to align pretty much with the concept of Cetra the way we know of them.

[@CapsuleCorpStudios]

Nice video. Hope you keep this work up. Can't wait for ff8

[@isaiahjordan1019]

Dunno if this has been mentioned, but I think you missed a limit break reference. The Ninja Limit Break: Chimatsuri It’s Japanese for Bloodfest, which is one of Yuffie’s limit breaks.

[@manaswin123]

I am a fan of your channel and this series of video now, keep up the great work!!!

[@snappertrx]

"Again, it's like poetry, so that they rhyme." ~ Yoshi P. 😂

[@fatesfrozenflame]

In addition to the Gold Saucer, the owner in FFXIV, Godbert Manderville, bears some resemblance to the owner of the Gold Saucer from FF7, Dio. Both are mainly seen wandering in limited clothing and being rather muscular and flexing a lot of the time.

[@artofchang]

Interesting tidbit about Cait Sith doll, though the quote is from FF7, the actual look is based on Cait Sith from Final Fantasy 11.

[@kalandarkclaw8892]

also, Cait Sith is in other FF games but in FFXIV they call them "Flying killers"

[@Zlei.]

Interesting video. I caught a few of these while playing through myself, but nowhere near as many that you've spotted here.

[@setzstone]

There's also a cait sith ribbon you can get from khloe aliapoh

[@ChristopherG1990]

Has anyone mentioned that the FFXIV Zodiark pulls his design from a combination of Chaos and Safer Sephrioth? Zodiark has a damaged or unfinished wing, giving him the appearance of a One winged Angel

[@DennisMadrigal-f5o]

Im wat hing the whole playlist, BIGGEST LOVE TO YOU FOR THESE. Yes, im also officialy done with FF14 now :) waiting on DawnTrail

[@seboulol]

I can't believe I missed the obvious reference to Seto's story with the M tribe!

[@yao9777]

I love this video!! Thanks

[@bagabool]

You need more subs! Good luck further!

[@turntapeover5749]

While the achievement for defeating Sefirot references ff7 the entire warring triad are a reference to FF6 statues down to their model.

[@KalaamNozalys]

One that a lot of people seems to miss is the City of Ancient/7 seconds till the end musical motif appearing in the final boss of the bozja quests's music. It always gets surprising

[@Disco_Dan]

Great videos!

[@elementalprime3179]

On top of the M’zhet Tia quest, Red XIII’s father’s name - Seto - is also referenced by the name of Ardbert’s mount in the Shadowbringers expansion, an Amaro by the name of Seto.

[@NymphsOrisons]

The Ascians wear black robes, are numbered, and are trying to bring about a "Reunion" of the shards to the source similar to the black robed experiments in FF7. Also, there are 7 actual heavens in FFXIV where the 12 gods reside.

[@kalandarkclaw8892]

That's a reach... They were convocation of 14 And it's a rejoining And men in black robes isn't anything unique to ff7

[@NymphsOrisons]

@@kalandarkclaw8892 are there mysterious black robed characters in other Final Fantasies? I have only had experience with. 7, 8, 10, 14 and 15. Hmmm. Didnt feel like a reach, but since there is no official list, there's nothing wrong with reaching. :)

[@kalandarkclaw8892]

@@NymphsOrisons i think its a mix of a few things there's also Amaurot being very similar to DZ from X, the Ascians act in some ways similar to the Occuria from XII (act behind the scenes where most dont kno about them, are "undying", can fake themselves to look like real people and using that to manipulate events etc), the whole destruction of lives to cause a rejoining to return their people also reminds me of the Terrans from IX but I would imagine the XII reference might be the most likely given that game's influence on the development of XIV but tbh regarding Ascians, they may not have been a deliberate allusion, after all the writers themselves admitted they were just generic bad guys without any plan for them

[@erdnuzz8368]

Also: Whitemage LB3 in FFXIV ist basically Aertih praying. Even her staff is in front of a Whitemage while doing the LB3. When i realised that for the first time i was mind blown. I always thought the WHM LB3 is kinda boring looking. But since i got the meaning behind it...

[@GuerreiroAventureiro]

if you use alt stance while weapon draw as drk, ready to battle and victory pose you get cloud pose too. About the city i think it was inspired on Insomnia or Quadratum/Shibuya since SE love do big city conections. Also in XIV gilgamesh is using Masamune, one of Sephiroth swords, i hope his weapon become a relic in this expansion cause i want to make a sephiroth set.

[@remitifromhell]

The "Guard Scorpion" famously mistranslated line "attack while it's tail is up" is probably why the dude in ffxiv tell us the same. In XIV however, this is nothing really problematic as in VII it was the direct opposit of what we should do.

[@yasminluthfiaa1311]

Wow, I didn't realize that Valens corresponds Hojo! I guess him getting chucked away is so satisfying since I can't chucked Hojo the same way for his crimes against humanity

[@NekkoBlue]

I think Eulmore in general, not just the Beehive, could be seen as one big Midgar reference especially during 5.0 MSQ, due to the stark visual economic difference of the free and bonded enjoying the “high life” while the poor are stuck living the “slum life” underneath them, as well as the big leader figure manipulating everyone to think that this is the ideal way to live in peace with their planet being in peril

[@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind]

There is more FF7 references than I thought and it was literally in my face Especially the story non-visual ones

[@alannacrystal]

Another reference you missed: Garlemald looks like Midgar.

[@BigBossDae]

Before you face off with Saphire Weapon or after, Valeaulin makes a reference about there possibly being an easier way to handle the weapons. Like blowing off their heads with a cannon. Like what happens to Saphire Weapon in Ff7.

[@dimbusjenkins]

The main field music for Bozja/Zadnor starts with the playing of a musical phrase that sounds very similar to the first theme in "Holding My Thoughts in my Heart" (when it's the clarinet soundfont playing the melody with a harp accompaniment)

[@GimmeTOKYO]

While you did say that Thordan's fight aludes towards the summon, in the Japanese version of XIV it's full on in your face because "The Singularity Reactor" instance's name in Japanese is ナイツ・オブ・ラウンド討滅戦 (Battle to Destroy the Knights of the Round). Moreso, when you start off in Dragonsong War Reprise, the title that flashes on the screen in the opening cutscene says "Knights of the Round."

[@ryanhorton9594]

Amarot more closely leans on Zanarkand from FFX, not the City of the Ancients imo . Well done video tho

[@macauleytonna6539]

Something else that was missed: The Samurai's /cpose when the weapon is drawn for the male characters resembles Sephiroths victory pose. Also for the male characters, the Dark Knights Victory emote with the weapon drawn shows the character spinning the blade similar to Cloud's victory pose

[@krika1119]

One of the prerequisite quests to unlock the Ananta tribe quests in Stormblood is pretty much a FF14 take on Red's father. Once thought abandoned and the father known as a coward, however he actually gave his life against a horde of beasts before being afflicted with a poison that turned him to stone.

[@BastardTraveler]

Might be wrong about this but in Endwalker, the Male Viera race has a few idle poses that resemble Clouds in the FFVII Remake.

[@jacobsiron6929]

You forgot the chef in the Seventh Heaven, who has a strong resemblance to Cloud

[@bauscheusse]

Spotted a minor reference that was in the video but not mentioned (was shown as part of a diff ref) - the name of Red XIII's father, Seto, is used/referrenced in Seto the Amaro, companion of Ardbert

[@pipz420]

You would be surprised by the amount of both FF7 and FF14 similarities in FF11. FF11 has a literal lifestream. Ever crisis was being built in 2006 and loveless literally talks about "wings" and "the goddess" right in the same year FF11 released "Wings of the Goddess". That expansion is exactly what is happening in remake.

[@Lrbearclaw]

Don't forget that the male DRK /vpose is literally Cloud's victory animation.

[@Mike_Requiem]

Damn this really cool video

[@xProsciuttina]

i think the bosja southern front theme (at around 25 seconds) has a reference to the main theme of ff7

[@shoesheshan]

There's the Cloud Strife card available for purchase in the Gold Saucer!

[@TuanLe-gc7sr]

There is a church under water in il mheg that is a reference for the sector 5 church.

[@Texas2089]

The title you get from the achievement for 150 deliveries to Kai-Shirr is "Honeybee" which is a further reference to the Honeybee Inn. I've been using it since I unlocked it and have zero intention of changing it lol

[@nevanvictorian]

In ff7 remake ,in the shinra building hologram, when u see the ancients ,their environment is very familiar to eorzea and if u notice the airship in the background, it is 1 of the airships u get in an ffxiv fc voyages ,,,perhaps ffxiv are the ancients of ff7

[@ThePainOfNagato]

Also Dark knight regular battle pose is sephiroth's battle pose you can see it in ff7 remake to when cloud goes into his punisher mode.

[@TheAuron32]

when i first got to Heavenswards end, i damn near shit myself when my brain clicked we would be fighting Knights of Round.

[@crystalgoddess4085]

It's not Dark Knight's idle that's borrowed from Cloud, as that only applies to male characters, it's the victory emote, as it is one for one Cloud's victory animation, the ready for battle emote for Dark Knight also ends with them standing in Cloud's battle stance. Fun fact regarding Ungarmax: It was actually a translation error, it was supposed to be called Anger Max in FFVII. Also, regarding King Thordan, if his limit break hits 100, Ultimate End will actually play out an animation identical to the summon in Final Fantasy VII, and needless to say, wipes the party. There is an obscure one that was missed, there is a company in Final Fantasy XIV called Highwind Skyways, this is most likely a reference to Cid Highwind's job as a pilot and engineer prior to him joining the party, and maybe to Cid's airship in Final Fantasy VII called the Highwind.

[@rammyland]

i know you mentioned the drk idle pose, but the drk /vpose is actually clouds victory animation as well!

[@nikodokars8315]

I think the /vpose on female monks is also somehow related to Tifa I am not sure tho

[@Soulsnatcher89]

I'm surprised you included the Unknown here and not in FF5 section of vids :o

[@megascizor8275]

There is also Materia which appears as an important thing in XIV, and it is coalesced spirit energy, just like VII. The lifestream is also mentioned by name verbatim several times in the story when people are referring to the aetherial sea, and there are also quests with the word "Lifestream" in it. When Y'shtola entered the Lifestream, her soul was eroded away, and almost completely erased, which is a reference to the audio novella Lifestream Black and White. The concept of aether is also very similar to the concept of mako energy

[@megascizor8275]

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[@megascizor8275]

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[@benjaminfeld6388]

There is one thing you for God's that I'm aware of. Cait SithHimself makes an appearance in the game, except in this case he's the familiar of a sorcerer or something.

[@Ms._Crimson]

The victory emote on DRK is the same as Clouds winning animation from FFVII.

[@DLane814]

Male DRK /vpose is Cloud's victory animation. male DRK /bstance is also Cloud's battle animation

[@ephaniegaming9775]

Love this!

[@doctabasco]

On the gold saucer, it's worth noting that Godbert Manderville often takes on well-meaning petty criminals as employees to serve community service, which parallels ff7's gold saucer towering over a penal colony and using inmates as chocobo riders.

[@jumazahidi6554]

If anyone has commented sorry in advance, Lyse say exect same qoute as Tfia from dissdia 012 " time to get serious".

[@derpyderp2270]

BIG FAT TACOS BIG FAT TACOS BIG FAT TACOS SO BIIIIIIG

[@SapphireDragon357]

I don't know how many games use the name Seto, but it's in ShB as well.

[@nathansellers3870]

Wait, nobody here noticed Joseph in the chocobo area!? Joe? The chocobo jockey in FF7 with the black chocobo?

[@1jidion]

it has been confirmed, the pronunciation of cait siths name is "cait (kate) sith(like the darkside users in star wars)"

[@wyrmshogun5245]

The final clash with Zenos might be a reference of the final battle between Cloud and Sephiroth

[@ChaotisRavendark]

Shadowbringers also seems to be pretty heavy in referencing DoC. Ryne to me, seems to be alot like Shelke when it comes to being seen as the reincarnations of both Minfilia and Lucrecia, such as when Minfilia takes over Ryne’s body to talk to Thancred while they visited Nabaath in Amh Araeng, similarly Lucrecia taking over Shelke’s body in the Shinra Building chapter. Also, they both meet the women that the men in their lives cared for so deeply, with Minifilia becoming one with Ryne while Lucrecia gives Shelke the protomateria to return to Vincent. The Warrior of Light as well goes through some lost of control moments much like Vincent did after the promateria was stolen from him, however, the Warrior’s situation stimulates mainly from absorbing too much light after defeating the Lightwardens, teetering on the verge of becoming a sin eater. Both are kept under control of themselves through Ryne being able to use her powers inherited from Minifilia to keep the light within the warrior at bay, while Shelke seems to use Lucrecia as a means of keeping Vincent calm, which only works for a time until the both of them, get their means of controlling the monsters within them at bay, Ardbert being the Warrior of Light’s promateria persay, becomes one with the Warrior, stabilizing the light within them while Shelke retrieves the Protomateria for Vincent within Omega, allowing him to control Chaos. Vauthy reminds me abit of Sephiroth, having been made to become a sin eater at birth while Sephiroth was made to become the perfect Solider while still in his mother’s womb. Both had pretty crappy parents on that front, being made to become perfect beings through different means. Also, the Warrior of Light seems to share some similarities between themselves and Vincent. both are fond of children, they’re willing to give their lives to protect the ones they love, they value life above all things and most of all, they feel guilty about being unable to save those that they cared for, Vincent being guilty over being unable to save Lucrecia from what she was doing while the Warrior is guilty over the death of Haurchefaunt, for saving them.

[@tylerboyd7712]

So the dungeons in SB is strongly referenced from the temple of the ancients

[@cioh3787]

To me, the ancient city in FFXIV: Shadowbringer reminded me more of Zanarkand from FFX.

[@wellsdaniels2541]

I know some people get mad when you say this, but I do think Final Fantasy 14 is connected to ff7 in someway shape or form the references of the ancients the life stream and even sharing similar music Also the cut scene in ff7 remake inside of the simulator where they go back in time and talk about how their ancestors were able to use the live stream and bend it to their Will almost sounds like they’re talking about ff14 on FF 14 your character can absorb the crystals like explained ff7

[@Sacrengard]

So cool, I love all these references from FFVII!! This is just personal opinion but, for some reason Labyrinthos reminds me of Deepground, both are underground secret facilities, its a bit of a reach but it did remind me of that. I wonder if there are other hidden references from the other FFVII games, like Crisis Core or Dirge of Cerberus, like weapon names or bosses too. Cant wait for the FFVIII references!

[@Yomens123]

i would like FF14 to make a FF7R cross over, and get Yuffie's Moogle outfit, it would match FF14 community goofyness perfectly !

[@ghostblade1042]

To me 1 big reference is that “ASCIANS” is just a misheard “ANCIENT” they have a ton of similarities.

[@kaihedgie1747]

Ascian is an actual word though. It's a medieval Latin translation of the ancient Greek word ἄσκιος which literally means "without a shadow". Ascians are subtly distinguished in FFXIV as not casting a shadow and the themed gear you can get from the Heroes' Gauntlet is called Shadowless

[@ghostblade1042]

@@kaihedgie1747ohhhhhhh, damnn. That is cool, thanks for the facts tho

[@SylviannaBriarwood]

my 1st ff game vii and my 2nd current game is xiv

[@jakz737]

I see you haven’t gotten a copyright strike yet that’s because square annex lets you use their music as long as you don’t do it as a commercial you’re good.

[@JepMZ]

Cosmo Canyon is an actual place in the New World. It's seen in a flashback of the Blue Mage quest. It's kind of weird. They both are based on native American culture but in ff14, their culture becomes a literal circus and the blue mage gear is a costume.

[@CrowDalova]

The scholar LB3 is called Angel Feathers, which I believe is also one of Aerith’s limit breaks!

[@The_lonely_stoner]

LB1 is not Braver ???

[@turntapeover5749]

It is for melee yes

[@The_lonely_stoner]

@@turntapeover5749 noo i mean LB1 is literally not Braver. Braver has a different animation and is a single swing attack, while LB1 in FFXIV swings 2 times

[@evegone7430]

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[@ambiibambiivideosXD]

Thordan is not the final boss of heavensward, it's Nidhogg!, This is interesting, I knew that FFVII was all over the place in FFXIV! Love both games!

[@Sacrengard]

He IS the final boss of Heavensward expansion, Nidhogg is the final boss of the Heavensward storyline

[@ambiibambiivideosXD]

@@Sacrengard OOOOOOH. I'm a newb player! I have to remember that! Thank you ♥

[@Sacrengard]

@@ambiibambiivideosXD we all learn new things everyday, specially with these amazing videos!

[@SapphireDragon357]

Yeah, every xpac has a x.0 story that is the leveling experience ending with a final boss. For HW, it was Thordan and the knights. Then patches x.1, x.2, and x.3 roll around over the next year and finish up the story of the xpac with another Trial, in this case the final battle with Nidhogg, before the x.4 and x.5 patches set up for the next xpac.

[@game-enjoyer13]

FF7 may not be the best FF, in my opinion, but it would be factually incorrect to say it isn’t massively popular, influential, and successful, especially for it’s time.

[@darshio8307]

One of the best tho, it has the best rpg system and the narrative and world building were revolutionary