Final Fantasy VIII References in Final Fantasy XIV

[@Leogon255]

Something to add to Gunbreaker skills, in PvP they have an action called "Draw & Junction". When used it grants the gunbreaker buffs and ability changes depending on the role the skill is used on as they're effectively "junctioning" that role.

[@foxmoth8010]

Seifer doesn’t junction after leaving the Garden. Crazy huh

[@GimmeTOKYO]

FFVIII will always be one of my personal favorites of the entire FF series, and when I got to Shadowbringers and did the Eden raids, I was overwhelmed with nostalgic tears hearing Blue Fields for the first time. They really knocked it out of the park with the raid series, and I screamed with glee watching Eternal Breath play out in HD.

[@GimmeTOKYO]

Also, one little bit of music you missed, is the theme used at the end of the Eden raids, which is an arrangement of "Ami" from FFVIII :>

[@Autobalance]

I forgot to label it but when I show the comparison between the end of Eden, I use the exact version of Ami at 15:25

[@wolfgangwestmark5107]

Damn, I just realised Ryne's name is probably a reference to Rinoa. Feeling a bit stupid for not noticing that earlier.

[@robbaskerville253]

I don't know why, but "Blue Fields" is the most emotionally resonant game music to me.

[@MiniEquine]

I heard "Blue Fields" and I felt transported back to my parent's house living room, sitting on the couch on a Saturday morning. I've played the game since, but this was my first real FF game and that brings it all back.

[@YuubiTimberwolf]

One thing to add: An NPC in the new Hildi Questline writes for an ocult magazine, referencing to the same magazines found in FF8 which are needed to get Doomtrain GF

[@WweirdohH]

another thing worth noting is Burst Strike is a reference to Squall's normal attack in FFVIII with the trigger pressed

[@testogel85]

The 4 battles of the final Eden raid tier can be loosely mapped to the 4 phases of the battle with Ultimecia. 1. basic Ultimecia/Cloud of Darkness: a scantily clad magic user woman in a red/black/white color scheme. 2. Griever/Shadowkeeper: a large leonine or vulpine beast covered in dark fur. 3. merged Ultimecia-Griever/Fatebreaker: previously encountered entities mashed together. 4: final Ultimecia/Eden's Promise: a surreal, vaguely humanoid figure

[@AxleStukov]

Oracle Gaia also uses Apocalypse, a spell only available by drawing from the final Ultimecia phase.

[@PlagueLotus128]

Good stuff man! The only thing I can think of that was missed was the Ragnarok class Allagan ships which share a lot of resemblance to the FF8 Ragnarok design. You can see a few of them on Mare Lamentorum and referenced in the Binding Coil raids

[@Leogon255]

Yeah the Ragnarok class ships were used to bring Bahamut into space and to build his prison of Dalamund, much in the same way the Ragnaroks were used to send and imprision Sorcoress Adell in FF8.

[@Shadowzero4]

This is very well done. One thing I have never seen people notice though is The Burn, right before Shadowbringers. At the end of The Burn, the main cast install a barrier that is mostly invisible. The Burn is similar to the area before Esthar. Esthar is protected by a barrier that is otherwise invisible. Considering that it shows up not long before the expansion that is essentially FFVIII related, I feel that this design was intentional. Though I imagine most people don't think of this because of the Mist Dragon being from FFIV.

[@NokoFace]

Something pretty minor, but another Ultimecia reference during the Oracle of Darkness fight is whenever she casts one of her "main mechanics" (Basic Relativity, Intermediate Relativity, Advanced Relativity and Terminal Relativity) small text at the bottom of the screen flashes up saying "Time is being compressed!" like how Ultimecia's end goal is to commit time compression. As well, her secondary mechanics (Singular Apocalypse, Dual Apocalypse and Triple Apocalypse) are the same name as the "Apocalypse" spell that, coincidentally, can be drawn from Ultimecia.

[@LenzTL]

Aside from the bit of flavour text, one of Gaia’s recurring spells that she uses during the raids is Spell in Waiting (Delay in Japanese), which slows down time

[@Tyek1230]

Love these videos man! As a life-long Final Fantasy fan, and a player of FF14 for the past 5 years, it's cool seeing a dedicated video for each FF game's references in the MMO. You're the only youtuber I've come across that's doing this, so keep up the good work. And I can't wait for the remaining games, heh.

[@Ludipolo]

One thing that is also worth noting is that the Mitron’s true name being Artemis could be seen as a reference to Ultimecia as her name in the west could be a mistranslation of Artemisia which adds to the FFVIII references in Eden and is a possible real world base for part of the design for Eden’s Promise.

[@remitifromhell]

Was just about to comment this, as Ultimecia's name on katakana is roughlt "Arutimishia", and would more closely translate to "Artemisia" than "Ultimecia". Artemis' name is certainly a direct reference to this, as it's "Arutemis"

[@remitifromhell]

This is another fun nod to mistransllation history in ff's, it seems that bartz/buttz and exdeath/exodus were not enough lol

[@jackalsy]

I always thought the Garleans' vehicles, machines, etc bear a strong resemblance to those of Galbadia. They even have robot spiders that remind me of the one that chases Squall's squad during the escape from Dollet. All-in-all, I've always been a huge FF8 fan since childhood, and seeing so many references to it, especially during the Eden raids, made me fangirl like never before x)

[@minxnoraen6943]

X-ATM092 fought that thing so many times grinding for it's AP over many saves on ps1! XD

[@nostars8804]

FF8 is so underappreciated. Great video thanks!

[@willswanson1840]

I'm one of the few FF8 diehards (I guess it just came out at the right point in my life idk) so this is very much the video I'd been waiting for. I lost my flipping *mind* at the ShB raid content.

[@RaynexD]

Every time i see Diabolos in dungeon and alliance raid, Me: Alright who let him out of the magical lamp again?! XD

[@oliviabaker3712]

Absolutely well done video! Just got done binging the whole series and another one just comes out!

[@RevanBC]

FFXIV Shadowbringers Boss Theme Insatiable intro is pretty much the same intro as "Don't Be Afraid" Nice video man

[@leshyaedawnfire]

Next up is my intro-game to Final Fantasy! YEE!

[@NakuruKouChannel]

now that i know what they were referencing in the eden raid, ryne and gaia are even gayer now. happy pride

[@haydenurse]

i just found your videos your making me relive my childhood and remembering the story the refrences and everything thank you

[@lightofthelives]

Cool that this was recommended to me! Refs are always interesting and to see them in different ways is very fun

[@rock_stare2146]

i have played FF8 many times and have played 14 since 2.0 release and im surprised by how many references i missed thank you for pointing some of them out!

[@luluehayes]

Always happy to see another video from you

[@sjacpswbs03162005]

Oh my you’re churning them out! (Waiting for 13 tbh but as far as I know there’s that event and that music cue in the crystal lake outside mor dohna)

[@thegallantrayku2677]

Alot of monster designs are taken from 13 like the dreadnaught

[@sjacpswbs03162005]

@@thegallantrayku2677 oh yea those were fun but also very specific to allegan culture

[@dafire9634]

I was just waiting for this

[@FlameClone]

This is the one I've been looking forward to 👍

[@ftilxe]

Praying that Pandemona shows up in the Pandemonium raids, even if just its design. It's so weird, and it hasn't been seen in the series since

[@giovanniprovost]

Awesome video, as someone who doesnt play FFXIV but is interested these are really useful and entertaining

[@rdsasuke1]

This is such a cool idea for a video series.

[@SaberRexZealot]

I love that 14 references some of the more obscure titles in the series like 3, 8 or 12 rather than something like 7 or 10.

[@Aleksander9813]

There is a reference you missed in the last boss of the Eden raids. Eden's Promise takes a shape inspired by a statue of the Greek goddess Artemis (which also ends up being the name of Mitron). This is a reference to Ultimecia who is usually translated from Japanese as Artemisa in most languages except English. It's debated whether or not Ultimecia's name is mistranslated in English since her name is pronounced as "Aru Ti Me Shi Ah" in Japanese, which could be interpreted in either way

[@LenzTL]

Something not immediately obvious is that the Lv 70 Gunbreaker ability “Continuation” comes from Squall’s Limit Break Renzokuken (Continuous Sword) In FF8, the trigger minigame attached to Squall’s LBs is translated into FF14 by having to repeatedly use Continuation immediately after your special attacks

[@photomatt11]

You’re doing a great job on this series. I think It would interesting (but probably also daunting) if you did a video of pop culture references in FFXIV

[@Sacrengard]

Nice!!! Just in time for the PuPu reference yay!!! I was hoping it was going to make it for this video hahaha!! I loved every FF8 reference in this game, 99% of them gave me goosebumps and the 100% brought a nostalgic tear in my eyes.

[@KGhaleon]

Part of me is a bit mad for the spoiler. I know there was a warning but I figured this was an old video about the Eden raid and not something covering current patches.

[@Sacrengard]

@@KGhaleon as always, spoilers are spoilers, unless you are up to date 100% you cant take anything for granted. I learned the lesson the hard way

[@Mantikorable]

Cant' wait for FFIX References and the following ones

[@SorakuFett]

In the Eden raids, there's a weird, complicated reference to Ultimecia in Mitron's true name, Artemis. In the original Japanese version of VIII and some translations, namely Spanish, Ultimecia's name is *Arutimishia (アルティミシア),* which correlates to "*rtemis (アルテミス, Arutemisu).* The Spanish version of FFVIII even translates Ultimecia's name as *Artemisa.*

[@seboulol]

We can mention that the abilities Junction and Draw of Eden's Promise uses the FFVIII animation for drawing magic from enemies.

[@kevinhudson1019]

I'm pretty sure the running animation used in crystaline conflict for gnb is a nod to the way seifer runs throughout the dollet town mission.

[@scullzomben]

2 quick things. Technically the first Gunblade in the game was from the Lightning Returns crossover way back in 2013. It was available to Paladins back then. Second - The Voidwalker boss from Eden Floor 2 holds on to Gaia in a very similar fashion to the way that Adel holds on to Rinoa.

[@Sorakasharri]

When you defeat endsinger the background looks similar to the start screen in ff8 as well.

[@Sunila_DragonladyCH]

Great video! You do show it, but didn't elaborate on how while Squall gets "refflceted" in one the bosses, we get the boss literally looking like Thancred who is the "OG Gunbreaker" in FFXIV. Also while I played Eden I recall telling my friends that Eden is literally a Garden. And yes, the new Hildebrand quests is a fun nod. i wonder what else they will bring

[@JRGomez81]

One of the songs you might have glossed over was Ami, it's a track from FFVIII and it plays at the end of the the Eden's Verse raids. It's one of my favorite FFVIII pieces.

[@Autobalance]

I forgot to label it but I did use the exact version of Ami that was played at the end of Eden Raid at 15:25

[@JRGomez81]

@@Autobalance Fair enough man, thanks for including it.

[@toomas9400]

Amazing Video! Gaia's time magicks (basic relativity, advanced relativity etc) in E12S P2 could have been mentioned as well, since its a obvious reference to Ultimecia's "Time Compression" -theme.

[@Ka_Five]

Idk if anyone's mentioned yet, but the music in Eulmore resembles Waltz for the Moon when it starts!

[@courtgame]

You sir earn yourself a new sub o7

[@kevinhudson1019]

I think the field of flowers appearing towards the end of zone 6 in end walker should count as a reference.

[@ruinerdown1614]

Awesome stuff, got my sub

[@LavanOutLoud]

Fun Fact: Rinoa's dog, Angelo, is actually a female dog and her full name is Sant' Angelo di Roma.

[@arumea5418]

Personally I think the large crashed red craft at heimdalls last sight on the moon in XIV looks suspiciously like the FF8 ragnarok design.

[@sasskee]

While we are on the subject of ability references with the Gunbreaker, the concept behind the Wildfire ability of the Machinist is literally Lagunas Limit Break. Throw a bomb and then let hell loose until it explodes. :3 Edit: Also, in the Design of Eden's Promise (the boss) the bottom half has similarities with Ultimecias final form.

[@FelNaga]

During the cutscene you get after you beat the 8th floor of Eden. Which is Ryne over taken by the memories of Shiva. When Gaia and Ryne are talking, Ami from FF8 plays very subtlely in the background.

[@vincentlefur4490]

i'm a new FF14 player and OH MY GOD i can't wait to get to the Shadowbringer's storyline just to hear those musics ingame weilding a gunblade will be the absolute bliss FF8 was my first FF game and damn it was good and again... THE MUSIC! 😭

[@MothShapedLamp]

Theres a line where Gaia says "Anyway, it might even make a nice necklace" which *could* be a reference to Squall's ring that Rinoa wears as a necklace.

[@Sacrengard]

I know there was a song during the raid cutscenes too but I dont think there is an orchrestion roll for it (yet?). But if I recall it was a version of balamb garden. Im not sure which cutscene was but I believe it was one of the final ones involving Gaia and Ryne

[@chriswiththe86]

If you go back to the empty after completing the raid series the Balamb Garden motif now plays. As far as I know the roll still isn't available. Maybe once Eden Ultimate happens we'll get it. I definitely hope so!

[@Sacrengard]

@@chriswiththe86 omg we still dont have a roll for that?? its been like 6 years 😭

[@TyrMcDohl]

Post-Dawntrail addition to Gunbreaker's kit if you ever update this: The combo actions after Bloodfest, when taken together, look like Squall's Lion Heart limit break.

[@fataleflare]

I really hope we get a Pu Pu minion at the end of the hildabrant quests in Endwalker! He’s so cute!!! Also the triple triad card mount could also be added to the everything you missed video.

[@chrisrounds1242]

At the end of Endwalker, The Ragnarok flies over Erozea, Doma and Sharylian. When all the people look up at the ship reminds me of the ending of ff8 when the sub characters are looking at the Balamb Garden airship as it flies by each section with the song, "Eyes On Me" before the closing credits. Yet, I wonder with the ending of Endwalker of how many Final Fantasy references are within the 1 segment. I could see FF7 and FF9.

[@ChannelSho]

When I first did the Eden raid, I was surprised they gave us basically Eden right off the bat. What a way to start the raid.

[@magnamic5614]

God how I love FFVIII.

[@doriansz3130]

Cant wait for FF IX reference

[@desdenova1]

Arm-launched doggo is best doggo.

[@Celas-m93s]

i want a FF VIII Remake :( 8 and 10 was and are my favorites of the FF Series.

[@caitlinboone652]

Just a reference. Gaia being inside the voidwalker in E2 raid tier, is a similar reference to Rinoa being inside Adel in FF8.

[@Gisellelovely]

FfXIV’s 2nd boss in World of Darkness uses a skill called “Eyes on Me” - the name of FFVIII’s theme song.

[@SapphireDragon357]

First boss, but yes that's mentioned here from the boss in Dzemael Darkhold at 6:50.

[@adamstafa525]

In PVP mode GNB have skill named Draw and Juncion^^ it work similar as dissidia nt special skill.

[@NabaNouki]

Ryne saving Gaia just like Rinoa saved Squall. "Just Gals Being Pals".

[@YuubiTimberwolf]

Eden raid does have the mighty Pride Crystal afterall

[@Strykerx31]

@@YuubiTimberwolf Not Everything has to be Gay ya know.

[@Pesola]

Well presented, buuuut I do feel that you kinda missed a major thing about E9S to E12S, the 3rd tier of the raid. There is a BIG theming that I feel doesn't get noticed often. Hear me out now, In FF8 the final fight is arenged as such, you start of against the female sorceress Ultimecia (a hot woman in very hot outfit, yes), after beaten, she releases her guardian force, Greaver, a beast. That is stages 1 and 2, on starge 3, she fuses with Greaver and on stage 4, she releases her ultimate form. All of these stages are basicly Eden fights 9 to 12. In FF14 you Eden 9 you fight Cloud of Darkness, a hot woman wearing almost nothing. In Eden 10, you fight the Shadowbeast, a beast called to fight. Eden 10 you fight a fused abomination of memories, the Dad, the Baddy and the beast of the Baddy. and finaly Eden 12 you fight a ultimate form of Gaia's "promise". In savage of 12 you actually have the second form that really brings out the Final Fantasy 8. Thanks for the video.

[@JB6GD684]

The sky slipper Mount looks like Balamb garden from behind

[@samziegelman1835]

Quick note: The Skyslipper that you can get from E4S

[@DrkShd]

i think the basic and advance relativity attack of gaia in e12s raid is direct reference to the time compress in FF8, even the chant when she doing it similiar

[@ericbright1742]

I am still waiting on Machinist to get the Angelo Cannon.

[@ulaladiva]

12:20 ..... THERE'S A SURGE IN THE ETHER!!

[@LadyFrostbite]

I was going to mention Angelo being female, but someone already did. Only thing that's missing is Liberti Fatali plays during the transition between E12S's phases

[@Mizuhana_Nagisa]

GNB Lvl up Archivement is called "Maybe I'm a Lion" So yeah a reference too.

[@HolyDemon1988]

the moment you not wanted Blasting Zone but Lion Heart, you started to make joke about the massivf Laser Sword xD

[@psssht8998]

I think after you finish E8 and at the end of e12 the balamb garden theme plays.

[@warriorfromhammerfell1557]

There are a lot of things, for me, FF8 stands out above the rest of the series like he summons which FF8 has the best arts for them, and that Force Your Way, the dissidia version particularly, is the best rearranged soundtrack

[@beatrixkaelin5120]

There is another thing you miss based on translation. Ultimecia's name in Japanese is closer direct translated to Artemisia. While the Ascian Loghriff's name is Gaia, The Ascian Mitron's name was Artemis. During the Fight, The Oracle of Darkness uses Ultimecia's planned Time Compression to cause wacky time hijinks during the fight, rewinding and fast forwarding you to different locations you have to set and mark with specific movements.

[@ReaverBharash]

The earliest reference to the Ragnarok airship is actually Nero’s helmet back in 2.0 (unsure if this was referenced in 1.x or not) FFVIII’s Ragnarok is my favorite airship so far.

[@leehogarth1615]

I was just going to write this lol, I think they were giving nero a norse theme, with armour based off off ragnarok, and his hammer was called mjolnir.

[@foxmoth8010]

Fun fact I taught myself Waltz for the moon dance to impress girls at my JH dances

[@jemandjemand2362]

forcce your way in the eden version was lit

[@UrickSan92]

Finally caught up, also Malboro gang

[@osurac14vlb]

I always felt the aetherytes in shadowbringers looked like the balamb garden a bit. a large floating piece with a smaller rotating one keeping it up. even the shape of the larger piece looks a bit like the garden to me with a long tail on one side.

[@ThirtyfourEC]

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[@wohdinhel]

FFVIII is so underrated. I don’t necessarily like the trend of FF games set in “modernized” worlds, or rather, I think far too many of them have tried and done it rather poorly, and *fantasy* should be the primary identity of the franchise given that it’s IN THE NAME, but FFVIII really did set the stage that FFVII built, and I think that any “modernized” FF should really look to VIII as a model.

[@haxra3656]

i think the battle ready emote of the gunbreaker is the same as squall also the run animation is the same run that squall do when he attaque

[@TenchiHawkwing]

Pretty sure Eyes on Me is not a reference to the FFVIII song but rather an attack that Ahriman enemies have in FFXI.

[@necrolord1920]

11 is after 8, so they are probably BOTH references.

[@TenchiHawkwing]

@@necrolord1920 They are most likely not referencing the song as they have nothing to do with it or it's themes.

[@vincentbeton]

Boy am I glad they did not reference the faceless Squall Scene...yet

[@DollRyougi]

Can't wait for fft! And agito

[@SweetyMiki]

Hmmm, after seeing all your videos one question is popping into my mind...Is somebody actually reading the FFWiki allusions page I mostly manage and contribute to? :D

[@Autobalance]

Haha I will admit I definitely use it and cross reference for a lot of these references! I still try to find others as well but it's definitely been a tremendous help! Thank you for your work!

[@SweetyMiki]

@@Autobalance Of course! Glad to see the community utilizing this! Also, I know this one isn't on the list there, but for something to add later the Leviathan in Eden actually uses some of the color scheme of the Leviathan GF from 8, while also having it's Tsunami (大海嘯) ability as it's special ability, as opposed to Tidal Wave (タイダルウェイブ) of the original Leviathan from 14.

[@diode_wow]

So, basically, Shadowbringers is the unofficial FF8 remake.

[@igcometa]

Lunar cry is the same animation at that Metion scene

[@lavos55]

Is it weird that I associate "Don't Be Afraid" music and Odin showing up against mere Bite Bugs to be one and the same?

[@Dragongard]

Imho blue mage is also a reference to quistis

[@akumamakima2280]

Gaia's makeup is similar to Edea's. Her color scheme over all seems to favor her even though she's using Ultimecia's powers.

[@Pliskkenn]

Whats that last guitar piece?

[@adiksaff]

Ahhh. Someone is a QuiNoa fan it seems. Healthy eating!

[@ikki133]

R.I.P to rough divide thanks to dawntrails.