Final Fantasy XV Episode Ardyn: Resist Your Fate Ending

[@nicoladipiazza6155]

Though we may not realize it, everything in this world is preordained. That's why Bahamut made sure to cancel the second season of DLC; so that we would not oppose him and get a happy ending.

[@pedroxruz6032]

God. I am so unsatisfied that we never got the chance to finish Bahamut of.

[@Timebomb_19]

Or add an episode where he dies

[@jesusromero4193]

So bahamut wins?? Damn this is so fucked up

[@Crowgale]

But luckly, the works of man stand the test of time. And no one, not even a god, can match the power of a pen and paper.

[@ZephyrDogma]

@@deadpoolrockz6410 you're a legend man now I can have my happiness, also is that ligh novel ending Canon or not? Either ways I'm gonna pick that one as my ending but still I gotta know

[@abrahamkresnik9726]

Yup, Bahamut is the villain and played the Lucis Bloodline like a damn fiddle.

[@HJLusio]

"Leave it to a god to just do as they please." - Lightning, Dissidia NT

[@montelhelem8707]

@@HJLusio Considering the fact that Lightning has had her life controlled by one, I can't blame her for saying that.

[@cross2563]

Agreed.

[@gin3025]

Only god good was ifrit then ?

[@cross2563]

@@gin3025 yes ifrit was the only one who's okay with me

[@apathyreaper5323]

Honestly his tale is very tragic and Noctis / Luna was basically just caught in a crossfire of that unfortunate event.

[@kingdomheartscomments8742]

Yeah, but at least they brought the conflicts between the Astrals and the Caelums to an end, restored the light and brought peace to Ardyn and the world. So all is well in the end.

[@ericx6969]

@@kingdomheartscomments8742 well we only see light return we don't see anything else like epilogue upset for make believe afterlife

[@somethingspicy4757]

Apathy Reaper I guess that's why Lunafreya was so obsessed with faith and did nothing to fight back.

[@LuckiSir]

Pretty much everyone got caught in the crossfire, my bro Ignis is blind now

[@ericx6969]

@@kingdomheartscomments8742 death count

[@Maniacal_Laughter]

Can I say that Ardyns voice actor is probably the best choice they could’ve gone with.

[@slycooper-fj5bs]

@Shmebulock thats cause u don't fully understand the character past and how he was betrayed

[@relly793]

mah they coulda did better

[@Maniacal_Laughter]

Shmebulock in this scene I do believe ardins voice actor was perfect he’s a melancholy type of character showing pensive sadness rather than a emotional type of sadness, and considering he’s a character that is fractured, very focused on revenge the way he switches between insanity and noble personalities gives a nice contrast. He isn’t mean to be a sad but rather betrayed character seeking only the justice he is deserved.

[@relly793]

@@Maniacal_Laughter the old english voice acting is tiring and boring to say the least

[@Yokyle4356]

😜 Yep

[@cookieartsy4507]

Listening to Ardyn laugh just breaks my heart into tiny pieces. You can hear him descending further into insanity. So far to the point of zero return

[@bendover2684]

Na Just cringe

[@rai4119]

You’re right.

[@olivialeger3647]

Yeah, total goosebumps moment. What hurts the most about this story is that Ardyn was a decent person before the gods ruined his life to suit their messed up destiny plan. It's so sad.

[@jordanicaly1393]

@@bendover2684Ur name is cringe

[@jasminkrieger8464]

Joker laugh like that too

[@LeonA0]

.... noctis killed the wrong guy. he should had teamed up with ardyn and kill all the gods!!! wheres lightning when you need her

[@kevi1813]

What about the starscourge then? I really doubt the Kings of yore would lend Noctis their power if he went full Deicide.

[@LeonA0]

@@kevi1813 it was caused by ifrit. and the oracle had the power to repel the scourge, kill ifrit, not luna. and it would eventualy return to normal.

[@kevi1813]

​@@LeonA0 It's never outright stated that Ifrit made the starscourge. Only that it might have emerged somewhere during the War of the Astrals. And even if Ifrit was killed, Ardyn had become the source of the starscourge infection, wich is why he had to be completely erased, to prevent him from coming back and continuing to spread it.

[@LeonA0]

​@@kevi1813 i think its safe to assume the gods created both the cure and the plague. because if the reason is man. then there is nothing to stop it from apearing again, it began witouth ardyn, he was just the one that kept absorving it and then became the biggest spreader, but not the only one as we know oracles thru generations have been curing the scourge on people and he was asleep this hole time, as such killing him would not save them, in fact it would doom them all eventualy as there is no more oracle and ardyn still had the ability to absorve if he so wished it, now there is no one to stop the scourge, unless it was all a elaborated system that will end when the gods wish it so. such a system would create a worship of the gods for "saving" them. as for its origins " the German localization, Ardyn Izunia says Starscourge originated from the Meteor of the Six,[1] but it is not stated outright in other versions." its not a perfect canon, but it canot be dissmissed aswell. and we know from the lore that the meteor was sent by ifrit and caught by titan. Now you might ask why would the gods go thru this hole complicated plan that lasted ages. well.. "The True King is said to be even more powerful than the gods" ... this here would be reason enought for them to want to end him, so make someone that would be able to end the true king. Ardyn Izunia. They are not the true gods, the Crystal is, and the Crystal has a will of its own. Of Course this is just a Theory, but if they made this plot into like a final chapter oh boy the game would had have a pretty sweet ending and plot twist.

[@mars8799]

Valter Oliveira uh that was meant to happen in the dlcs but *damn u square*

[@ryeketsuna4504]

“Pierce my heart if you must, but you will never kill my resolve”. Got to love that line 😄

[@princeofpokemon2934]

I'd love nothing more than to pierce the heart of Bahamut! And I will take his heart and crush it with my own hands!

[@CromwellEdonis]

@@princeofpokemon2934 Bold of you to think Bahamut had a heart.

[@princeofpokemon2934]

@@CromwellEdonis my eyes were opened when I realized just how awful Bahamut really was.

[@supremeoverlorde2109]

It legitimately breaks my heart when Ardyn asks, "Am I alive? Oh, does it matter?"

[@lightninggames2892]

Bahamut: To spread Darkness throughout the world is thy TRUE calling Ardyn: DARKNESS? Bahamut Soon the true King will be born unto Lucis, He Shall lead the people as their BEACON OF HOPE and drive away the DARKNESS, in turn thou shalt be his SACRIFICE - THE LIMITLESS SHADOW THAT USHERS IN THE LIGHT Ardyn: Why must I continue to suffer? Have I not Already Sacrificed enough!? Bahamut: When the true king awakens summoning the power of his forebears, he shall at last relieve thee of thy suffering. Then the line of Lucis shall come to an END and the revenge thou seekest shall finally be found. SO IT IS ORDAINED SO SHALL IT BE. Ardyn : You say I am not the SAVIOR of man but his SACRIFICIAL Lamb, and that I live only to die by the hand of the heir to an ILL-GOTTEN throne? That is the FATE the gods have CHOSEN to BESTOW upon me!!!??? Bahamut: The very same, defy thy destiny if thou dare, but know that it would grant thee a life of darkness unending, devoid of deaths reprieve. Bahamut: What Say Thee Adagium? Note the highlighted words, this was intentional to make the point. What Bahamut is saying is that Ardyns purpose is the be the bad guy that destroys the world and Noctis is the good guy that stops him. There needs to be an ultimate evil that an ultimate good defeats and that Ardyn and Noctis have been chosen for these roles (There needs to be a boss and a protagonist that beats him) it's all just a game to the gods its a story that needs to be told. The power of kings will empower Noctis and this will enable him to defeat Ardyn but in turn that very power kill Noctis. Read all that and this is what it sounds like....They are both pawns to be sacrificed, Actors playing their roles, Puppets on strings. the point here is Noctis being the chosen king isn't a good thing, it's a curse that is maybe just as bad as the one given to Ardyn. In the eyes of the gods they decide all and determine all and in the Case of Noctis and Ardyn they have decided That Noctis will be the Good guy And Ardyn the bad both pawns to be used and sacrificed. In Short that gods do not care about the people they are only their playthings

[@VillyP]

Exactly

[@PedroMartinez-lk6rn]

LightningGames Well but isn’t this whole thing a game? So if the gods enjoy creating that madness and watch it unfurl as so do we, what makes us so different from bahamut? Were the creators of this game stating that they themselves were the gods in the FFXV universe and created all this just to have some fun and have a good story? Hmmm

[@lightninggames2892]

@@PedroMartinez-lk6rn From the perspective of a gamer then yes I suppose its arguable that's the case for all games. We are all monsters who like killing enemies and finding out how a story unfolds but imagine yourself in the actual universe of a game. Your the 'Chosen' one and your told by your Leader,Prophet,God that your meant to stop a great evil from destroying your people, pretty standard as far as game plots go but nonetheless and at the end of it you fulfill that duty and as far as you the 'Chosen one are concerned you succeeded, you fulfilled your destiny and saved your people but from behind scenes there was a force behind the great evil that you stopped and your completely unaware of it's existence but somehow you find out, whatever the circumstances were you somehow found out that there was something else going on. You investigate and discover the terrible truth. The Leader,Prophet,God that sent you to destroy the evil is really who caused it. You would be dumbfounded, you would feel like you got played for a fool and the realization that they were tho ones truly responsible for all the destruction caused by the so called 'Evil'. If there was any shred of truth that you were the Chosen one destined to destroy Evil then I think the answers pretty obvious...you need to kill the Mastermind and in this case Bahamut (and possibly the other gods)

[@GUNDAMLOCKON]

The Master of Masters will return to make things right again.

[@xprm2k9]

This annoys me extremely. So it doesn't really matter because the gods play both Noctis and Ardyn. Yes I hate Ardyn but after seeing his story, gosh he is just another pawn by the gods and Noctis too.......fuck the ending.....

[@haydenmcalister3242]

7:05 I don't know if I've ever heard an evil laugh that's been so equally amazing but also haunting. Ardyn really is the full villain package plus some.

[@flareblade2143]

This is one of the best villain laughs yet.

[@Astralreaper7955]

The Most Satisfying Evil Laugh Ever

[@boopagm8275]

something tells my that Bahamut is the true villain of this story, and i think Shiva, Titan and Ifrit were the only gods that actually cared for humanity. I bet that mister dragon man caused Ifrit's turn. And i think were originally as Noctis going to save Ardyn and defeat Bahamut. Thats what i think the original dlc for noct was going to be. because think about it, in most final fantasy games, whos a boss, and often a bad guy.........Bahamut

[@zerraman420]

i think i have a theory as to what kind of thing they were going to do in the dlc each of the stories are about each character being puppets to the gods ardyn aranea lunafreya and noctis and episode noctis would have been the final episode where you team up with the 3 i mentioned to kill the gods hence the name dawn of the future

[@wilfredomarenco9939]

Ya I'm thinking that my self

[@Manbagdeluxe]

I get the impression that Ramuh might be sympathetic to humans too. Titan I'm not so sure about. Seems to me like the land, sea, and sky astrals are assholes, but the ice, fire, and electricity ones are sort of on the fence / sympathetic.

[@TaigaXsenpai]

Ifrit actually hated humans, but at least he had reasons beside megalomania.

[@glowhoo9226]

Ifrit turned on humanity because the people of solheim shunned the gods and acted superior to them, even though the only reason they advanced so far was because Ifrit gave them fire. The astrals have a sworn duty to serve and protect eos, so Bahamut killed Ifrit. Shiva lost faith in humanity until Luna came along. But yeah Bahamut is the bad guy of this story

[@ronnarongparnyabarn8032]

This feels like the game is not yet over because the final villain(bahamut) still doesnt get beaten.

[@kennethboozer6148]

Apparently the gods are evil

[@GUNDAMLOCKON]

RECONNECT VERSUS.

[@mikelastname6148]

Yeah if only the episodes weren't CANCELLED! But of course Square Enix have to be dicks about it. But you would probably see the gods be killed in that novel they are gonna come out with.

[@keenanmccarty9925]

I think it’s more the gods needed the starscorge removed (we know it can corrupt them due to Ifrit), so they used Ardyn to get it all in one place and remove it from existence.

[@maxisaev568]

@@mikelastname6148 we only know of canceling of three episodes, and come to think of it, perhaps there were too many (like, who cares about episode Luna if almost no one cared about Luna herself? lol) so it's still possible they're going to collect all the troops into the one final episode, something like Bahamut Episode. I imagine episode makings weren't good on profits, now if Ardyn Episode collects enough sellings, may be there'll be another.

[@oblivion4074]

So basically the gods won and there’s no good ending

[@BrynnCReilly]

Unless episode ignis you follow ardyn

[@pittsburghlife32]

Phantommkll what when ignis kills him? And they all live happily ever after that’s still not a good endin because noctis would still die you know fate and all that

[@mathguy8685]

@@pittsburghlife32 noctis doesnt die in that ending....

[@butler3251]

@@pittsburghlife32 did you even play the damn game lol?

[@TheEvilLordExdeath]

The starscrouge was eliminated and the world was saved at the cost of two lives (actually multiple if you count the war between Lucis and Niflhiem). It was either this or plan B, Bahamut kills everything on the planet at least according to the novel.

[@Ephideltrance]

Ardyn needed to enlist Lightning or Caius to really show Bahamut just how much humans can defy Gods- kill them to be exact.....lol

[@tchoythao1730]

Or, he should had called 1-800-GOW-KRTS. Their leading professionals are exceptionally skilled at defying fate and placing your ill treating gods in their place, for a fee right for you! If he calls in the 30 minutes, he'll be eligible to receive the BOY cleaning service for free!

[@Marksmen17]

Welp guess I’ll need my dragon killer +

[@Marksmen17]

If he can go to Assassin’s creed origins why not lighting return?

[@qt8842]

I'm pretty sure the cancelled Episode Noctis was supposed to be about defying the Gods will, possibly leading to a boss fight with Bahamut even.

[@kennethboozer6148]

Q T that sucks. Sadly we will never know

[@axeltheroyalnine4780]

The fact that Bahamut a summoning that always helped us in previous titles turns out to be the true villian really surprises me due to the uniqueness of it all

[@cloudsopowera6248]

FFXV might not be the greatest FF of all time but Ardyn Lucis Caelum has definitely cement himself as the greatest FF villain of all time. Ill say hes a better than Sephiroth or even Kefka.

[@Omnicloudx13]

He doesn't come close to either lol.

[@cloudsopowera6248]

@@Omnicloudx13 Ardyn is the only FF villain who managed to achieve his goal *long term*. He also had a more "realistic" evil character development. Unlike Kefka and Sephiroth, Ardyn didn't turn bad out of blue.

[@Omnicloudx13]

@@cloudsopowera6248 Uhh Garland/Chaos achieved his goal long term by making an eternal time loop opposing the warriors of light so you're wrong already...

[@Ephideltrance]

@@cloudsopowera6248 Caius Ballad actually achieved his goal too, and defeated the protagonist Lightning in their first face off. He is also a tragic character if not more than Ardyn. Really and truly the "best" will always be subjective. I will say Ardyn may be one of the best villains in the series....Caius as well, Cid and Vayne from FF12 were also quite complex (12 in particular has a few similarities well with FF15). Old school FF villains tend to come off more generically evil. A few of them represented concepts like darkness and the void- so their natures were only destruction and nothingness.

[@skullofrebellion6653]

I'd say sorry, not really. He's a good villain but how they handled this game doesn't really emphasize it until the end. And it needed alot of extra stuff added in. I never thought Kefka was a great villain, and wasn't that big of a Seph fan either until Crisis Core though. I feel Ardyn could have been one of the best if the delivery wasn't so botched

[@rhiannonz85]

Bahamut was the bad guy. If this world is ruled by such gods it deserves Ardyn

[@aslankhan4675]

"Pierce my heart if you must, but you never kill my resolve" Best FF Antagonist ever!

[@moatezmoussi9751]

he's cool but i personally prefer Caius

[@CarlosRZ0394]

Bahamut controlling Aera reminds me how Bhunivelze was controlling Hope Estheim

[@errte7]

Oh god I really hate Bhunivelza

[@armanozyurt5051]

Bhunivelze was such a good vilan

[@liuyuuto2463]

,,I'm no mortal, I'm a monster!" Oh how I love this line

[@aldoghazali1375]

Bahamut is the true villain here

[@nightfoxgaming5779]

Agreed

[@DaFro3713]

And we’ll never get to truly fight him

[@aldoghazali1375]

@@DaFro3713 It'll Be Like FFXIII Lightning Retruns

[@somnia3423]

@@DaFro3713 we get to fight him in comrades o:

[@keskes1338]

Not really. This ultimately lead to the Starscourge being destroyed. Ardyn never actually had to embrace his 'destiny' and start spreading it, he chose to do so, whether for revenge, or sheer insanity.

[@jefthereaper]

What I believe happened: Ifrit went nutters when Solheim rebelled against him and the other gods, the battle ended up destroying most of humanity and left their trust and faith in the gods shambled. To regain the trust of humanity, Bahamut ripped a piece from the Crystal and used it to create the Starscourge. Then after letting the remnants of humanity suffer for a few years, he appears and grants the Lucis bloodline powers as his chosen to combat the “alien” Starscourge. One he gives powers similar to his own, while the other he geves the power to absorb the Scourge, later using him as the “evil antagonist” with dark powers to oppose his champion of Light, who would be nothing without the “blessing and power of the Gods.” All of this, just a 2000 year long publicity stunt to increase the mortals faith in the gods who “protect” them.

[@playaz7777]

dammm something straight out of the bible

[@theoc511]

​@@playaz7777it literally is.....even call noctis KING OF KINGS!

[@sor90]

Ardyn Lucis Caelum... Chew toy of fate...

[@AtomicSwagsplosion]

Everyone in FF15 was bound to their fate but Ardyn probably had it the worst

[@1Larxene1]

fukk man...

[@Superschlecht]

Bahamut is straight up doing some Bhunivelze stuff

[@cloudftw113]

Super Schlecht I wouldn’t be surprised if Bahamut was suppose to be Bhunivelze in the earlier drafts.

[@edwardhim2276]

It was intentional. Ff 13 and 13 vs were supposed to be counterparts. One side accepting fate, the other defying it. At it's core, they are very similar. Ardyn and noct are basically l'cie

[@ardynjames2893]

Tragic indeed. Truly opposite to ff 13 . Defying fate versus accepting fate . I finally realize the message & be at peace .

[@trulymrword]

ardyn james It was supposed to Versus 13 a antithesis to FF13

[@Goodbutevilgenius]

- You say I am not the savior of man, but his sacrificial lamb. And that I live only to die by the hand of the heir to an ill-gotten throne. That is the fate the gods have chosen to bestow upon me!? - The very same. I seriously cracked up at this. Bahamut's delivery was just perfect.

[@uwukioongi535]

i hate how unfinished this game is and yet how much everything still makes me cry

[@shauncampbell9039]

I love the little detail about Aera's voice having an echo of Bahamut's, implying that this isn't really her.

[@rodolfodesouzaesilva5601]

All along, Lightning was right.

[@DigitalTheory.]

This is why she got rid of them after all .....

[@rodolfodesouzaesilva5601]

Basically, the gods in Final Fantasy XIII screwed Lightning's world/universe in all ways possible, thus she killed them and had people making sure they don't come back. The result is our world.

[@kutless45]

Correction: Lightning and the Klingons were right. "Our gods are dead. Ancient Klingon warriors slew them a millennia ago. They were more trouble than they were worth." -Worf

[@phantasosxgames8488]

No , it was not. Bahamut's plan ensured that the Starcourge would be wiped out.

[@phantasosxgames8488]

@@ezekielbaskerville2710 No , it's not. Even in that fanfic called "Dawn to the Future" , the Teraflare is just a response to Noctis becoming an ally to Ardyn , therefore , making their plan to use the Lucii to wipe the Starcourge null and void.

[@mortalballgt52]

I want a DLC Epilogue where Noctis, Ardyn and Luna team up on Bahamut and friends and give them what-for! This cannot end like it did!

[@ZenexFX]

Boy do we have some bad news for you if you didn't know already

[@mortalballgt52]

@@ZenexFX yeah yeah. The novel... The fucking novel...

[@Lemuel928]

The Alternate Paradox.

[@Keychan64]

@@mortalballgt52 what happened?

[@CojaGamez]

@@Keychan64 The ending of the novel is happier

[@lionelyang7958]

NOCTIS X ARDYN V.S THE GODS. MAKE IT HAPPEN SQUARE!

[@psychogamer7213]

Ardyn Refused to become a Kingdom Hearts Villain. He knew what he'd get himself into if he did. Truly, Respect for this man.

[@Basic101-c5d]

What would he get himself into

[@psychogamer7213]

He'd just split himself into 13 different versions of himself, travel back and forth in time so he can travel to a certain point in the universe, start up philosophical speeches and light and darkness only to completely forget about them all together, sacrifice a few of those 13 versions of himself and replace them for no reason so he can replace them back again, Force the main characters to travel around for 3 more FF15 sequels to pad out his evil scheme and Etc Etc.

[@Basic101-c5d]

Wow Kh lore is on steroids

[@GamecubeGrace1989]

“I’m afraid you’re out of luck. The one you hope to see is not here”. (Nor is the one I WISH to see) *unsurpressable laughter* “Ah, but do pardon my surprise at this most unexpected development. How very nice it is to see you again, Lady Lunafreya”. ~ Ardyn Izunia; Dawn of the Future, FFXV, Resist Your Fate Ending - A Saviour Lost, Pg 93.

[@Luna-of4kq]

I think Aera is just illusion made by Bahamut. You can clearly heard Bahamut voice when aera is speaking -_-..... well Bahamut is reall villain indeed :P

[@TaigaXsenpai]

no, she is clearly a zealot that will follow gods will no matter how flawed their decisions might be. Gods were probably afraid of star scourage so decided to take any option possible to get rid of it, no matter how amoral it was. They are powerful, but not omnipotent so there was something that threatened them.

[@1Larxene1]

@@TaigaXsenpai true ...

[@richardberner585]

No, it wasn't Aera. You could hear Bahamut's voice while she is the one supposed to talk, and she uses Bahamut's wording. Moreover, I saw it in the FF 15 wikia that it was indeed Bahamut, maybe there is some link to better source.

[@leandeer8947]

3:05 give me chills everytime.

[@thesenate5913]

He didn't have a choice but to be the monster, a shame. A great antagonist.

[@MolotovKingX]

That wasn't Aera that was just a illusion cast to look like her notice how she talks using words like bahamut

[@richardberner585]

I noticed that too. Moreover, you could hear his voice talking paralell to hers. Now is official, it was an illusion.

[@rai4119]

@@richardberner585 Thank God.... through the anguish of this physical and mental torture paired with his slipping sanity, there’s no doubt he believed her to be the real Aera...

[@vexcarius7100]

So basically Bahamut is Bhunivelze, the Starcourge is similar to the uncontrollable chaos.

[@poptobi1375]

That.......laugh......so freaking scary

[@HJLusio]

A clear sign that the good man that had once been a saviour was all but gone. Ardyn had nothing else to lose at that point, especially with Aera apparently backstabbing him (literally).

[@chalunkxlight578]

SpindlyWhale410 I wonder.If that was the real Aera,then why did she shield Ardyn from Somnus’s blow? Maybe the Aera that stabbed Ardyn in this scene is just another Bahamut’s trick. Though for some reason I see that the Somnus and Aera in the last scene is the last fragment of his humanity.And he just discard it as he laugh maniacally.

[@Ph4lip]

Sounds like Chris from family guy

[@zura8879]

@@chalunkxlight578 That's Bahamut, you can even hear the lines she said being repeated by Bahamut too.

[@chalunkxlight578]

@@zura8879 Yes,i already knew that.The camera told us pretty much.And that's just make me hate Bahamut more in this game.

[@patiparnpinyopornpanish7857]

Zuko: Where is the rest of it!?!

[@empyreanpenguin1278]

Ardyn: So this is to be my fate? Bahamut: yes. 2:55 *DAGA KOTAWARU*

[@TaigaXsenpai]

Ardyn favourite phrase is to say "NO" to somebody who thinks he has absolute adventage ;)

[@khanakram8639]

Just one more dlc please, of where we get to kick Bahamut's ass? Is that too much to ask for?

[@etu5914]

i know FFXV isnt up there as top FF, but Ardyn for me is the top 3 villain bested by Kefka and Sephiroth and that laugh at the end is the best and the most terrifying ff villain laugh i've ever heard kudos to Darin de Paul for voicing Ardyn, perfect voice for Ardyn

[@theflashgordon193]

9:10 Wow ! so Ardyn have killed luna in the same way that he killed area. The history of Ardyn is really the reverse miroir of noctis

[@Chris-ih4hj]

Gordon rass kwasi who is area, what area

[@theflashgordon193]

@@Chris-ih4hj I meant aera

[@casperes0912]

@@theflashgordon193 Somnus, well really Bahamut, killed her though

[@purboyoananda]

Basically bahamut says you know torturing you again will be a waste of our time one way or another you gonna do what i just told you.

[@UchihaFabio]

xanatos gambit

[@popcultureenthusiast5587]

Makes me feel vibes that ffxv is still apart of fabula nova crystallas cause we can agree that gods and crystals sometimes turn to be huge douches while the darkness/chaos turned out to be the lesser evil

[@toyota4847]

Well, this isnt canon so, who cares, I just wanna see Luna with Noctis lmao

[@daeronxi2804]

@@toyota4847 This IS canon

[@TheCatWatches]

Instead of a DLC, this game deserves a re-release on new consoles and PC with a Second Ending … Bahamut be damned

[@akicrystal8111]

So bahamut is the real true villian !?!?!

[@mr.voidout4739]

Unfortunately so.

[@kevi1813]

Seemed a bit out of nowhere though. My thought was, that he was chosen to be king, but when Somnus betrayed him, and caused him to succumb to the daemonic powers he had absorbed, they basically foresaw what he would do in the future, and (and this is just speculation) that Noctis (a descendant of Somnus) would become powerful enough to completely, erase that starscourge. That's why i can't really see Bahamut as the "villain". What i get from his matter-of-fact(albeit a bit condecending) speech, is that: This is what's gonna happen, and there's nothing you can do to change it. But hey the line of Lucis dies out, and you'll rest in peace, so just accept it and let it happen.

[@pleasemyytcommentsaredumb.8189]

Remember he doesn't work as a summon, only for once, against Ifrit.

[@pleasemyytcommentsaredumb.8189]

@@kevi1813 , let me tell you, Bahamut is still responsible for Ardyn being a daemon, they gave him a power to absorb starscourge.

[@Axl21]

The starscourge is the true villain. Bahamut uses Ardyn and the whole line of Lucis as sacrificial pawns to end the starscourge. Bahamut's methods were harsh, but ultimately this was the only way to end the starscourge. Though if the new dawn dlc had come out, there might have been another way to end the starscourge without sacrificing anyone, but unfortunately it was cancelled, only to be written in a book.

[@thc2014]

I can`t wait for Ardyn to be in Dissidia

[@ellielittlecutegorgongirl708]

I want Ardyn in Smash..

[@CollinSamatas]

Yeah, the endings of Ardyn's episode blew me out of the water. Darin DePaul is just exceptional with his performance. My eyes actually watered when Ardyn fell to the floor wailing. And Bahamut, as usual, knocks it out of the water with that demonic God voice effect, and the writing. That said, many people are saying Bahamut is actually a villain…But I think maybe he just realized there was only one way for the darkness/starscourge to be banished. As such, he would be more of a divine entity that is neither good nor evil.

[@Eskolol]

I think the scourge was something that not even Bahamut could do anything about. Until he hatched the whole plot of giving Ardyn the power to absorb the scourge into himself and giving lucis the power to banish it through the power of the crystal. Without Ardyn and the Lucis line the world would have probably ended and Bahamut sacrificed two people to save the world essentially. Ardyn was basically the saviour since without him, the scourge couldn't have had been banished. Problem was that Ardyn wasn't Jesus Christ and had a problem of sacrificing himself for humanity.

[@mars8799]

Why ardyn is the best character in ffxv

[@reinaldojosh2nd]

I feel bad for Ardyn. I believe his story connects with a lot of people. Those who wants to fit in to but are rejected, considered outcasts, even have their trusts betrayed by those dear to them.

[@ACloudWithoutAir]

the DLC came out in the peak of my depression right before my suicide attempt because of my longing for my old ex gf.

[@mischievousone9999]

Ardyn’s story is really profound and enjoyable. If only the current developers knew how to tell a story and keep things a coherent whole. Ffxv may easily be the masterpiece that almost was. The biggest issue I have with the game is how they broke up the vital aspects of the story into DLCs. Plot points and character origin/ development is something that should be delivered standard in a final fantasy game. Could you imagine if in seven you had to buy a separate disc for each character’s arc? One for Barret and Dyne, one for Yuffie and Wutai, one for Vincent and Lucretcia, or Red XIII in Cosmo Canyon. Or even ( in the truest spirit of FFXV’s hoarding of vital plot points) the flashbacks of cloud and Sephiroth in Nibleheim? No. Because without all that it wouldn’t be close to the coherent complete game we were given. The same goes for all the other FFgames. All the games since four took the time to flesh out their story and characters before release. I would say that final fantasy 8 was a mechanical mess of a final fantasy game, where as 15 was a narrative failure.

[@EXFOOLYCOOLY]

Years late but I do agree that ffxv was an incomplete mess. There was too many sides to blame honestly, squares poor management when it was versus xiii along with nomura doing other projects, splitting dlc, the director having to take ffxv project without the guide from nomura, development hell etc. Its amazing how each beta build is so different from the final game

[@TheEchoman60]

God, what is the name of the OST that starts playing when I Ardyn says "Oh I'm no mortal, I'm a monster."

[@Rock477]

Let me know if you find it ;^)

[@delsinroberts8632]

found it kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKXKdmCGiZaBn9k

[@butacolaaa7877]

OMFG I LOVE IT TOO

[@miguelruiz3078]

It's called Crucifixion within the game's files.

[@Maniacal_Laughter]

Damn Ardyn actually had a legit motivation, he did nothing wrong but trust the gods, bahamut is the true villain.

[@P_SEC]

If Ardyn really wanted to defy his destiny, even the gods themselves, all he had to do was to look pass his vengeance and seek something maybe more fulfilling.

[@supremeoverlorde2109]

Ideally, yes. I think that's part of the tragedy of Ardyn's character though. By this point in the story, his mind was already twisted not only by hate but all the daemons and the memories he had taken into himself. I don't think he had it in him to look past his spite anymore. It's not like he had anything to live for.

[@ferdycuy]

All of them are just God's pawns.

[@HJLusio]

"Leave it to a god to just do as they please." - Lightning, Dissidia NT

[@azazel166]

We've bested gods before, and we will do so again.

[@FireFury190]

To quote a popular jrpg protagonist “Today we use our power to fell a god and then seize our destiny!”

[@mrbabluep]

Unless... there's someone above the gods, who created them, and which they rebelled against. That came down on earth as.. the oracle

[@ferdycuy]

@@mrbabluep We hope so, let's say the "Goddess" in painting is not Oracle, but the creator, like a mysterious lady statue in pitioss ruin

[@PianoMan5059]

"Please, Aera. Wont you free me from this curse" You can hear the suffering Ardyn has endured, physically and emotionally and mentally. Physically Suffered, Emotionally Shatter, Mentally Broken, Spiritually Angered.

[@littlereviewer_gaming]

Ardyn is one of my fav character in FFXV. The voice actor did a great job, portrait him to life 🥺❤️ He has been suffering for far too long, both physically and mentally. When he beg Aera to set him free, I’m all teared up 🥹🥹🥹

[@irlplugg7391]

When will this ost be available, I need it now😭😢

[@Mav10]

Daryn de Paul's delivery of lines after you choose is so good

[@xRaineDropsx]

This ending pissed me off. After all this and Ardyn has to suffer. I really wish the alternate ending we were supposed to get wasn’t cancelled so he could get his happy ending. Oh, well there is always that novel coming out next month. 😓

[@nastypasty1037]

But the bad news is...The Japanese Voice Actor of Ardyn has passed away 😭😭😭

[@Myst245]

''pierce my heart if you must, but you will never kill my resolve''

[@hashtag.ethanz]

Damn it’s really sad at 11:23 that he sits there almost looking miserable knowing his demise and end will be soon to the king due to destiny and fate, real eerie

[@jirehresurreccion288]

3:50 - 3:52 was the last time we saw a glimpse of the face of the real, good hearted and “savior” Ardyn; and this is where he officially died. Now he’s in a path to madness to a point of no return.

[@ritosho9266]

In the end, we're all puppets to the gods eh

[@sonyabelmontfarenheght1189]

Sad,but true,my friend...sad,but true...

[@nope-hx4xm]

This is the norm of FF. To challenge the gods and fate itself. This is why i find XV to be the weakest FF. Noctis is just a tool.

[@nightfoxgaming5779]

@@nope-hx4xm to me tho noctis didn't care

[@mrbabluep]

Only if we believe so... Sadly, he did

[@nightfoxgaming5779]

@@mrbabluep you are right lol

[@MisanthropyTEC]

Wow the gods really did Ardyn dirty, and Ardyn died on purpose because let’s be honest Ardyn was destroying Noctis and even picking him up and taunting him. Maybe that’s why Ardyn never explained anything to Noctis

[@edwardhim2276]

Tbh, even if ardyn was fully transparent, noctis probably would'nt believe him. Throughout time, ardyns good name was smeared

[@maxisaev568]

@@edwardhim2276 he actually tries to talk to Noctis on the train only he wouldn't listen.

[@Corstessia3110]

@@maxisaev568 that was an illusion made by ardyn. It was prompto

[@zaelheimricht4978]

Ya know, i'm back from watching Shadowbringers full trailer... And i really wish we could unload the same kind of shit on Bahamut and co.

[@aristefansson1589]

Bahamut's words to Ardyn made the whole world like one huge, sick stage-play. Ardyn spreading the Starscourge as a sacrificial lamb.....Disgusting

[@olivialeger3647]

During the main game, I called Ardyn the shittiest person in the FFXV universe. That title now belongs to Bahamut.

[@1buszybudy13]

Welcome Retcon, i see you've already met the popular villain character we will be exonerating today.

[@DeadmanRedux]

What's the name of the OST as Ardyn walks out of the darkness and into the light? Sounds so majestic

[@thetwelfthdoctor9892]

there was a time when Bahamut was the ultimate ally of the heroes, the creature that would test them to see if they where strong enough to defeat the villain; look at him now: a villain like many other, playing with other people like they were pieces on a chessboard. " You either die as an hero or you live long enough to become the villain."

[@LuckiSir]

Imagine if Noctis saw past events that had occurred such as this scene

[@thunderchief7256]

He’d probably switch teams

[@UnlimitedFlyers]

So... it's BUT THOU MUST kind of choice and trope: Ardyn has no choice but to submit to the Astrals' grand scheme, free will be damned. XV's Bahamut the Bladekeeper is now officially a dick.

[@kenyoon6293]

7:13 that laugh... I LOVE IT!!!👿👿👿

[@amazingj4173]

Basically how a white mage turns into a black mage

[@nexusrev3377]

This dude puts all other FF villains to shame. He's the best

[@jpf7942]

100% agree man. Ardyn is the only Final Fantasy villain I give a shit about. What a character!!

[@murlocruse7180]

Have you ever seen Emet-Selch. Best vilain/antagonist in FF franchise, no arguing xD He even was top 6 on the best characters in FF!

[@CojaGamez]

My favourite is sephiroth because of his sheer presence alone, but Ardyn is a close second. They are two of my favourite villains of all time

[@lucas.lagoriaa]

@@murlocruse7180 Excluding FFXIV, Im pretty sure that Kefka and Ardyn are the best FF antagonists

[@kaylynnanson6231]

Okay but using his beloved's image was insult to injury. Bahamut is a cruel god indeed. 😢

[@robitussinbrohan718]

So bahumut is allowing ardyn to have his revenge. But not yet....this is wild....

[@ericx6969]

not really though

[@garrettdelaney1477]

i mean i can't even be mad at my nigga ardyn this is what makes his character so great...

[@Bahamut998]

This is exactly the same scenario as Stranger of Paradise. Except Jack embraces the Darkness and his role.

[@Kira22558]

Except Jack planning to become final boss so WoL can save his love

[@1aundulxaldin]

I honestly think that not all the Astrals were biased against humanity. Just Bahamut alone.

[@eduardotoledo5924]

I can't see Bahamut as a villian, I mean, instead of letting the Star Scourge spread, Bahamut use only one man (Ardyn) to focus the Darkness and kinda linked all Daemons to him. When Ardyn is finally defeated, all Daemons are gone, and Eos is saved. Bahamut sacrifice "a few" for a "greater good".

[@shyannlindsaey2862]

yea, but did he have to fuck up someone's life so completely to do so?

[@richardberner585]

That mindset that a few can be sacrufised for "greter good" is very sick to me. Dictators used those words many times to establis their dictatures. I never would trust such person (and here I talk about Bahamut). For all we know, all of that "spread the scourge, then clear it" could be some board game he himself invented just to cause drama and happenings (and take few gods away in the process). For all we know, maybe not Ardyn's death cleaned star scourge, but Bahamut (who could do it any other day, any other moment, but choce the day when Ardyn died, as that was part of his game). Is not like he never been villain in other FF's.

[@ranaku603]

I truly believe Yoshi P. made XVI's story just to spite this one. Mankind finally overcoming the gods and breaking free from their rule.

[@SeiKAls]

Damn, this is dark (@. @)

[@AmrAlchalati]

It's very sad to see Ardyn goes to a road he didn't choose, one of the best written vanillin character in FF.

[@nathanwalther1588]

One of the best evil laughs ever

[@aguywith5names362]

"Off my chair, jester. The king sits there." -If only you knew...

[@Zeddddy]

Honestly both of them are the true kings

[@ismailabdelazim2206]

I can not blame him

[@hajde8128]

Bahamut basically said "I was bored so I ruined lunch purposely, and I had fun doing it."

[@ajw2954]

If Aryden chose to forgive Somnus, if he chose to work alongside Lucis and not seek to destroy it, he could have truly resisted the gods. Light and Darkness defeating the puppet masters.

[@CojaGamez]

They do in the novel

[@CrimsonSteelMoonTheWolf64]

Episode notctis was suppose to be noct and ardyn teaming up to take down bahamut. It's a shame that the episode will never get made considering the events that unfolded in episode ardyn.

[@dimitrescus]

is that actually aera? bahamut posing as aera? aera actually staying loyal to bahamut?

[@ferdycuy]

Maybe yes, maybe not. I guess Bahamut posing as Aera so can make sure Ardyn will play his role as "villain" against true king.

[@dimitrescus]

@@ferdycuy Now that's fucked up. But I'm glad it's not the actual Aera.

[@harryunderwood9387]

Let's hope it's just puppeting or illusion magic like Ardyn can do, else Aera went through some hard torture after Ardyn punished her.

[@seanyee7850]

It's bahamut posing as aera, because when she talks you can hear bahamuts voice in the background

[@aeroga2383]

I picked the first option cause that's what happened in the base game. Can't believe I missed out on Aera screentime lol

[@loreleiwarren7086]

Well who’s in the mood to kill some gods?

[@azazel166]

More gods to kill... They will never learn.

[@TaigaXsenpai]

Ardyn and Kratos would be best buds ;D

[@rieJW]

We need a part 2 to this game where they make the game better and end the story with Bahamut’s defeat and Ardyn’s rise as the true king

[@ronnarongparnyabarn8032]

Bahamut should be a final villain of the game where Noctis sticks his sword of father to its ass.

[@mrbabluep]

That might happen in final Fantasy XXX I believe

[@harryunderwood9387]

Explain to me how he could even try, when Bahamut could just cut off his powers (since they largely come from it) and restrain him like he did Ardyn.

[@oracle_8947]

Hey, anything's possible! We have that novel with the cancelled dlc content coming soon from Square!😜

[@pracitus]

In the books of Noctis and Lunafreya, the release date is close.

[@ericx6969]

@@harryunderwood9387 maybe he will follow ardyn path get corrupted consumer light with darkness =) evil justifiable ending

[@HyperVegitoDBZ]

Madara's voice actor just nails this

[@somethingspicy4757]

Does anyone know the ost playing when Aera stabs Ardyn?