Never knew about that simplified MG42. Pretty cool getting a spoiler for a future Forgotten Weapons episode from you Bernhard
@MetalheadMitch7622 жыл бұрын
The MG-45 would have been a really good weapon, it was 6 pounds lighter than the MG-42 and close to half the cost. It used the roller delayed blowback system like the STG45 and later the G3 and MP5. It's kind of a shame it didn't see much postwar development except with the Spanish CETME Ameli LMG. The Ameli was apparently a good gun until the Spanish government contract required alot of corners cut in quality to make it cheaper.
@jamesricker39972 жыл бұрын
@@MetalheadMitch762 the German models were also not very good. There was an extreme shortage of high-quality Steel. That would have resulted in a short service life but the war did not last long enough for that to become a problem
@MetalheadMitch7622 жыл бұрын
@@jamesricker3997 The Germans were using stampings in the first place because of that. But the weapons still hold up to this day. Which is why stamped weapons became a big thing post WW2.
@jamesricker39972 жыл бұрын
@@MetalheadMitch762 I am talking a serious shortage of quality materials Where it would have been most noticeable would have been in the receiver and the barrel. It was very noticeable in other last-ditch weapons
@MetalheadMitch7622 жыл бұрын
@@jamesricker3997 The receiver was already made of lower quality metals and stamping strengthens those. Which is why stamping is cost effective. Higher quality metals were used in the most important (stress bearing) parts and often scrapped from obsolete weapons. This process allowed less higher quality metal to be used since only the barrel and trunnion attached to the stamped receiver needed better metal.
@bryangrote87812 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that the Germans still had so many different models of things even so late in the war and waited so late to standardize more equipment vs the Allies. For instance the Americans only had 2 basic half track chassis throughout the war, the M2 and the M3 and still did well with only using those 2 basic chassis, while Germany started with several different basic chassis and only in 1945 reduced it to “only” 4. The more one reads about standard German equipment the more one realizes there was no standard German equipment. This is probably the main reason they lost. Logistics are always key and strategically they were terrible at it vs the Allies.
@ADudOverTheFence12 жыл бұрын
The Germans did this, as far as I remember, because industrial firms were very closely knitted with the government. Contracts were announced to those firms and a mix between industry inter-competition and plain old nepotism was used to assign the winner of each contract. So every industral firm designed its own entry for the contract, the government chose one, but in turn two contracts would be chosen, leading to that logistical nightmare you mentioned, with a slight possibility of both getting standardized. I may not be correct even in most things, but from what I remember from different tank projects (Panther/both Tigers/Jagdtiger) and the G41/43 and STG43/44/45 rifles it happened in a similar way to what I described.
@augustdenger82312 жыл бұрын
@@ADudOverTheFence1 Basically. The Wehrmacht would want a few dozen examples of prototypes to put through the wringer before they decided on adopting one, and every competing contractor thought their design was gonna be the one so they would produce a bunch. The Porsche tiger is a good example of this
@onebritishboi98922 жыл бұрын
Even with aircraft haha
@Liam80152 жыл бұрын
I don't think only using 2 trucks or only 2 rifles or any other standardization would've materially changed the outcome of the war.
@Liam80152 жыл бұрын
@Uncle Joe did they though? A lot of it just wasn't that great
@r.gilman42612 жыл бұрын
I think your "mine shell" is a enhanced blast type round similiar to the Mine type shell used with aircraft cannon. Also with mortar effect, the capability looked for here is that the fragmentation pattern is improved when the projectile comes "point down". The fragmentation pattern is denser as most shell fragments come from the side of the artillery shell as a percentage of mass. At higher velocities the trajectory is flat, and around 50% of your potential fragmentation is dumped uselessly into the earth.
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized2 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@cnlbenmc2 жыл бұрын
Also probably known as a High Capacity (HC) shell in western circles.
@Galland_2 жыл бұрын
I'm certain that with "mortar effect" they mean the so-called 21-cm mortar(which was actually a howitzer), i.e. they would have liked to have the same explosive effect with a smaller gun by using mine shells such as in aircraft cannons. Take note that it refers to a specific gun in the original german, "die" and not "eine"..
@01Bouwhuis2 жыл бұрын
You mean airburst?
@ChadTanker2 жыл бұрын
Mienengeschoss
@edward96742 жыл бұрын
So basically sanity check of inventory and lots of standardization? Seems like an actually useful idea compared to the other things they tried to come up with in their desperation.
@panzerkampfwagenviausf.b2236 Жыл бұрын
"heyy do you know what would be a good idea? lets recruit children"
@vladimpaler34982 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that Speer has to tour the Eastern Front before he reemphasizes the plan to Der Fahrter. Another 18,000 heavy trucks of standard manufacture with spare parts might have really helped just a few years before. Surrounded on almost all sides and in retreat everywhere; NOW it is an emergency!
@Otokichi7862 жыл бұрын
What would a fleet of "heavy trucks of standard design" do without fuel?
@copter20002 жыл бұрын
@@Otokichi786 Yeah they're f**ked either way.
@techpriest89652 жыл бұрын
@@Otokichi786 They help you reach the vital oil fields before you start running out. And they help you ship it around.
@pingun962 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, Germany had over a hundred synthetic fuel refineries. They had fuel production, but the infrastructure to ship it around was limited and specially air raids made it a mess. But they did get some fuel this way. However, it really did a job on the engines.
@Theanimeisforme2 жыл бұрын
@@pingun96 i believe the cost though for that was massive reduction available coal
@MrChainsawAardvark2 жыл бұрын
The initial design of the AK-47 called for stamped steel receivers. However, the machinery available in 1949 did not produce items of adequate quality - so a type two model was designed that used a milled piece. By 1959 the AKM version would move back to cheap stampings. I imagine Germany was having similar problems of stamp quality or a lack of hydraulic presses meaning that they kept using the more expensive millings because those were available and worked. Hence why MG-34s and 42s would be produced side by side. While I know HEAT style shells are not easy to make, Germany was running out of Wolfram/Tungsten which was needed for both AP shells and making armored vehicles. Replacing hardened penetrators with explosively formed penetrators would help a bit.
@augustdenger82312 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that is exactly the reason the Germans kept producing milled guns. Many of their designs were from before the time everyone was using stamped steel, and they already had the infrastructure up. In the eventual emergencies the Third Reich would have, it would have halted production time and been overall more expensive than just leaving the factories be. If you're being bombed day and night, it's better to just keep making machine guns The Soviets had a similar thing going with the PPSH and PPS submachine guns
@ThatZenoGuy2 жыл бұрын
34 remained in production because the 42's barrel changing system was ill-suited for tank and bunker usage.
@augustdenger82312 жыл бұрын
@@ThatZenoGuy this too, but more than 6,000 being produced indicated that they weren't just for vehicle use
@ThatZenoGuy2 жыл бұрын
@@augustdenger8231 Every German tank required at least one (in most cases they had 2) MG.34. 6000 is only sufficient to arm 3000-6000 tanks.
@augustdenger82312 жыл бұрын
@@ThatZenoGuy They were most certainly not making 3000-6000 tanks/afvs/any kind of vehicle in the first quarter of 1945. Certainly a portion of that mg34 production would be going to new vehicles or replacements, but not a majority of them and certainly not all of them
@ChrisS-fh7zt2 жыл бұрын
The other reason the MG-34 was still being produced was due to the fact that the Germans for what ever reason never adopted the 42 for fighting vehicle armament be it hull, co-axial and even pintle mounted, but for light vehicles they did use MG-42's from everything from side car mountings on motorcycles, Kublewagen and trucks and halftracks. The one program that I am starting to read about is the Jagdpanther II, where they wanted to mount the PAK 44 128mm into a Jagdpanther hull! I just shudder thinking how the final drives, transmission, and suspension would groan trying to keep the weight of the weapon up without failing. Only a wooden mock up was completed to show Hitler before the end and so nothing came of it. Due to the end of hostilities.
@MosoKaiser2 жыл бұрын
The reasons: MG34's barrel change mechanism was far more suited for use inside tanks; all the needed mounting hardware was already designed and tested, with quirks ironed out; and it was more durable than the MG42. kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWm1nJRmoJaKppI
@thebravegallade7312 жыл бұрын
the jagdpanther, from what i know, had the improved final drive that would have fixed the main issue of it in the original panther, however by that point it was so late in the war that they decided it wasn't worth implementing it to the regular panther.
@classifiedad12 жыл бұрын
@@MosoKaiser That and the MG 34 was already integrated into existing armored vehicles, and it would be cheaper to keep using them than to redesign the armored vehicle’s machine gun mounts and the hole it pokes out of. Postwar, the Germans had no issues integrating MG 3 into their AFVs.
@tomhalla4262 жыл бұрын
Ian McCollum showed why on Forgotten Weapons-on the MG34, the barrel came straight out the back of the action, while the MG 42’s barrel came out the side of the barrel jacket. It was a matter of space inside the tank.
@lukycharms99702 жыл бұрын
Military: “we need 200,000 mp44s Factory: “uhh that’s kinda a lot, not sure we can do that. We could definitely do like 150 so we’ll shoot for somewhere in that range 200,000
@WildBillCox132 жыл бұрын
I've seen the project titled "PAW"600 in my hardback copy of Weapons of the Third Reich by Gander and Chamberlain. To quote the entry on page 117: "8cm Pazerabwehrwerfer 600, 8cm Panzerwurfkanone 8H63 Revolutionary High/Low pressure gun. Ten Issued for troop trials in late 1944; total of 260 completed by end of WW II. Some mounted on 5cm PAK 38 carriages. Krupp involved in research stage and built a similar experimental weapon designated PAW 600 V5." Selected stats- Maximum Effective Range: (AT) 600 m Maximum Range (HE): 6200 m Armor Penetration: 140mm at 750 m (0 degrees) Manufacturers: Rheinmetal-Borsig AG, Dusseldorf, Buckau-R*. Wulf, Magdeberg. From the photo caption, it seems as though the production version was to be fitted with a modified version of the muzzle brake of the 7.5cm PAK 40. Editorial: I believe this weapon used the same perforated cartridge principal as the later M79 Grenade launcher. Thus the "High/Low" pressure description. *Missing the umlaut-sorry
@WildBillCox132 жыл бұрын
There was another weapon on this principal called the 8.1cm PAW L/105. It was langer und grosser than the other types.
@calessel31392 жыл бұрын
Great book. I've referred to it so much that my copy is falling apart!
@WildBillCox132 жыл бұрын
@@calessel3139 Same.
@demonprinces172 жыл бұрын
Good ideas for 39 too late for 45
@naamadossantossilva47362 жыл бұрын
These are good ideas even for 42.
@markbike52882 жыл бұрын
Krieghoff 8mm Mauser Carcano for the Volkssturm from Forgotten Weapons sounds like an Emergency Program to me.
@PhonciblePBonehimself2 жыл бұрын
sounds like a classic German case of "too much, too late". Greetings from Germany :)
@americanpatriot2422 Жыл бұрын
Always an Outstanding video and presentation. Thank you!
@obsidianjane44132 жыл бұрын
IN 1939 it would have been radical. In 1945 it was just pathetic. it bittersweetly hightlighted how the bravery and sacrifice of Wehrmacht soldiers in overcoming for as long as they could the incompetence of those tasked with planning and supplying their ill conceived war.
@the_tactician98582 жыл бұрын
For all of the bad things done by Nazi Germany and its Wehrmacht, I can't help but feel sorry for the soldiers. For so long they had seen themselves as invincible superior people, and now they saw all things slipping away thanks to the decisions of mad fanatics and the determination and resolve of 3 major Allied nations. Mind you, I'm very happy they lost, and the crimes of the Wehrmacht should never be forgotten, but in the end even murderous brutes like the Einsatztruppen proved to be human.
@sthrich6352 жыл бұрын
That wouldnt be possible as most of stuff they used in the war havent been invented yet. Actually the Wehrmacht did try to standardize their equipment in 1938/39, and it did more harm than good to them actually. Their main AT guns, 3.7 cm, turned out to be inadequate against most tanks in 1940s, and their main MG34 turned out to be too expensive and complicated for the scale and battlefield conditions in Eastern Front. In fact that was one reason the Germans have to quickly design multiple types of equipment (Pak38, MG42) in hopes of catching up their armament race, thus un-standardizing their equipment list along mid-war. I wouldnt say the planners in Wehrmacht were incompetent, they did what the war demands them to do, an ideal production is just like an ideal battlefield or ideal battle tactics, - existed only in paper, not in reality of war.
@obsidianjane44132 жыл бұрын
@@sthrich635 They were incompetent both at the strategic level in their delusional optimism of what they would be able to accomplish and this cascaded down thru their production and logistical decision making. "Making shit up as you go" is not a viable operating model, much less an "ideal" one.
@sthrich6352 жыл бұрын
@@obsidianjane4413 Most kinds of optimism in warfare tends to be out-of-touch anyway. The Allies predicted they would be "home by Christmas" in 1944, Poland were optimistic about France & Brits helping out greatly to stop Germany completely in 1939, USSR not expecting the Germans would turn on them as early as 1941.... son on. Most leadership tends to promote or lean on optimism, why? Because that how you lead people, by telling what they can do, not what they cant. People with hindsight, seeing their prediction simply did not match the reality, would of course quick to label them delusional anyway.
@TuomoKalliokoski2 жыл бұрын
My guess is that mine-ammo would be ammunition with higher than normal share of explosives to the casing. I base this assumption to the minenbombe and MK108 high explosive ammo name which has also "minen" in it.
@MrDwarfpitcher2 жыл бұрын
I have seen this guy using some extra spicy rounds for his .50 cal rifle He didn't know they were extra powerfull. But it did not just shoot It blew up his gun too and almost killed him. Minen Ammo is probably just somr extra powerful bullet that does just that. It fires sure, but it may just detonate the gun you are holding too
@reganmahoney82642 жыл бұрын
As an American who is very interested in WWII I am very grateful for your channel. You present information bias free.
@SouthParkCows882 жыл бұрын
Speaking of emergency weapons........👀
@Ivsanval Жыл бұрын
When people think that the germans were crazy for having so many different equipment types and a complete lack of standarization, I believe they are grossly underestimating to what degree the germans were true visionaries. Their minds were not focused on short-term thinking like winning the war. Their minds were thinking decades ahead, about getting rich in the future scale model industry. Just imagine how boring it would be for plastic military model collectors if the germans had just stuck to a few types of inventory. The nazis might have lost the war, but their designs will live forever in the shelves of collectors all over the world. Too bad post-war occupation authorities discouraged germans from setting up a scale model industry, and japanese and italians got the upper hand.
@lllPlatinumlll2 жыл бұрын
So the army was stripped of the excellent 88 so that they could fire uselessly into the sky? Did the army actually have sufficient 88s?
@jesper5092 жыл бұрын
Heavy AA guns was probably a luftwaffe thing. So not many 88mm guns for the army. The army probably wanted SPAA, like Wirbelwind, Möbelwagen, with 3,7cm guns.
@the_tactician98582 жыл бұрын
That's what I gathered as well. The document makes it look like the Luftwaffe had priority on 88's, which makes sense as the Allied bombers could not really be shot by anything else. On the contrary the fighter-bombers that the Heer had to deal with mostly flew so low that the 88's would struggle hitting it, and something like the Flakvierling would probably be better in that regard.
@exharkhun56052 жыл бұрын
The 88 may be excellent at making holes, but for an army on the defense it's more of a 3,5 ton (7,5 for the aa mount) liability than a practical anti-tank system. The army wouldn't have a use for it other then in the limited numbers in heavy tanks and tank destroyers. It's immovable under combat conditions, it limits you severely in what positions you can use for ambushes, it binds you completely to areas with at least semi-paved roads and anytime you loose control of the battlefield you can kiss it goodbye.
@allangibson24082 жыл бұрын
The Heer were moving from fixed AT guns to self propelled guns & tanks. The Americans and British did the same thing.
@WildBillCox132 жыл бұрын
8.8cm Flak36 and its close (non AFV) derivatives. 22,000 built. Almost all retained within the Reich for city defense.
@georgefeser64832 жыл бұрын
The Volksturmgewher is definitely my favorite. I definitely misspelled that
@spd5792 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree. Standardization at the beginning, would've helped in not just numbers but, in contingincy up grades and not adapting new equipment. Forward thinking in equipment, was not present.
@Mortrag2 жыл бұрын
I realy like your videos, Bernhard, but showing a Königstiger in the thumbnail without mentioning tank-production in the video (except for the short remark on MG's) is kind of misleading and disappointing.
@TheKickingDonkey2 жыл бұрын
The timing of this video makes me feel uncomfortable
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized2 жыл бұрын
believe me, Tuesday's video will be far more on "timing", it actually contains certain day references in it.
@TheKickingDonkey2 жыл бұрын
@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized Boy, you were not kidding.
@kimjanek6462 жыл бұрын
A Mineshell is an High Explosive shell with a high capacity of explosive, creating a strong mine effect (blast) instead of a large number of shell fragments. They are more effective in destroying defensive positons or buildings and will probably also create large creators. The 15cm I.Granate for the sIG 33 was such a shell. It's used in direct fire to destroy obstacles or fortification. Maybe mortar effect refers to the round creating a large creator, since mortar shells typically also carried more explosive for their caliber. It would probably slow down the advance of vehicles that might have difficulty traversing those creators.
@alterKammerad2 жыл бұрын
I think mortar effect refers to the wider shrapnels distrupution of mortar shells, artillery shells hit at a sharper angle so most of the shrapnels are impaired in their effectiveness. The grenade of the 120mm mortar hardly makes creaters, even when set to delay impact
@kimjanek6462 жыл бұрын
@@alterKammerad Well but Mineshells are not really made for high fragmentation. Also it's fired from a howitzer. There's just no way to compare them when a howitzer mostly fires at 45°.
@wills2140 Жыл бұрын
7:09 there is not much evidence that the Mg 34 was *less reliable* ( that the Mg 42 ). More expensive in time and material for sure, the Mg 34 only lacked the easy quick change barrel trick from the Mg 42 / Mg 45. It was used on many vehicles and served in all forces.
@wjlasloThe2nd2 жыл бұрын
5:25 what is the "double shot grenade"? Is this referring to a reloadable version of the Panzerfaust like (I have heard) the Panzerfaust 250?
@lwilton2 жыл бұрын
It is interesting to think about some of the ramifications of decreasing the number of types of "X" in an economy that is reaching the bottom of its production abilities. If you still have, say, 5 functional factories for "X", it seems most efficient that they all make the same type of X. If nothing else this will give interchangeable parts between the output of the various factories. BUT -- this is assuming one thing and ignoring another. First, it is assuming that the factories are already making items with interchangeable parts for their own type of X. But what if they are hand-fitting many parts, as I believe happened with things like tanks? Having 5 factories that are all making hand-fitted "identical" (but not really) versions of X doesn't seem like that much of an improvement over 5 factories all making their own specific type of hand-fitted X. The only advantage seems to be logistics simplification for the user (the German military). Second, it is ignoring that making any type of X requires special tooling. And that isn't available off the shelf in the best of times, and certainly not when you are having problems making basic items. So to convert 4 factories out of 5 to make a common type of X from the types they are currently making means, first, that you have to duplicate the plans for the desired type of X (probably a month or more in those days), next, you have to decide what tools you will need in your factory to make this type of X, then you have to find out who can supply these new tools, or how many you have to make for yourself. Then you have to shut down your current factory production to reconfigure your production capability. Then you have to retrain significant number of your workers. All told, this is probably at least a 6 month period where your total production drops to about a fifth of what it was before, before ramping up on the new production.
@bernardedwards84612 жыл бұрын
Such emphasis on motor vehicles seems to ignore the severe shortage of fuel in the last year of the war.
@Ts5EVER2 жыл бұрын
I think the light and heavy infantry guns were supposed to be replaced by the new AT launcher as well, a "one size fits all" type of solution.
@thebigone60712 жыл бұрын
You da greatest historian who ever lived Bernhard!!!! The Michael Jordan of history!!!!
@legoseller449610 ай бұрын
Did I miss the section about Panzers? The thumbnail shows a Tiger II, but this was not mentioned in the vid. Informative vid nonetheless.
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized10 ай бұрын
No, you didn't the thumbnail is more on the lines: expected vs reality ;) Although I should have mentioned briefly something about tanks, not sure, it has been years.
@shatbad29602 жыл бұрын
Tragic how desperate things got, especially in the defence against the Reds.
@TheGaymo2 жыл бұрын
Deservedly, the reduction in armaments availibility was outpaced by the reduction in manpower availibility for Germany on all fronts.
@68RatVette2 жыл бұрын
mine shell; thin wall with high HE capacity
@MegaKonradb2 жыл бұрын
Ukrainians right now: "Write that down!" Write that down!" :(
@lobsterbark2 жыл бұрын
Especially considering the political leanings of the government, lol.
@looinrims2 жыл бұрын
Great work Speer, too bad you were the entire war too late
@azoniarnl33622 жыл бұрын
Speer too late?? The dude is responsible for much of the organisation of the armaments industry..
@looinrims2 жыл бұрын
@@azoniarnl3362 yeah, too late
@jamesricker39972 жыл бұрын
Hermann Goering was in charge of armaments, which explains a lot Speer was only beginning to fix the damage he did when the war ended
@keithmoore53062 жыл бұрын
this is what they should have done from the start of the war instead adding new stuff when it wasn't needed! they didn't need that many types of mines and grenades!
@mabbrey2 жыл бұрын
great stuff
@peceed2 жыл бұрын
Low pressure does nothing for lower mass of the gun, weight is dependant on projectile ballistic, but allows to use simpler, less expensive shells.
@AKUJIVALDO3 ай бұрын
Then you are a bumdumb who cannot even check Internet for guns weight and compare it with conventional Full-bore AP shells cannons.
@craigplatel8132 жыл бұрын
Could the missing numbers of rifles be the expected production of the volkssturmgewehr variants?
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized2 жыл бұрын
Unlikely
@WildBillCox132 жыл бұрын
I was amazed that the GEW43 was going to be a major type. I thought it was too fragile.
@kaineuhauser93532 жыл бұрын
@@WildBillCox13 i think you mean the G41.
@WildBillCox132 жыл бұрын
@@kaineuhauser9353 Could be. Thanks for the correction.
@jamesricker39972 жыл бұрын
You have to remember the war was ending. There were serious material shortages and Hitler wanted results People also wanted to get money while they could because it was about to end and they were going to need it
@WildBillCox132 жыл бұрын
Minen geschoss (thin walled HE round) for the Luftwaffe among other uses. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mine_shell
@jamesmayes43512 жыл бұрын
A mine shell could be FASCAM, we used those during the cold War. Think an artillery shell that scatters mines.
@egoalter12762 жыл бұрын
I would actually suspect it to be a HEAT shell. Seei g as mines all relied on cumulative charges by that point.
@yesyesyesyes16002 жыл бұрын
Has the topic "thermobar bomb" already been covered? Mario Zippermayer?
@yesyesyesyes16002 жыл бұрын
@@seanmatto2258 ;) I wished this weapon wouldn't exist. Do you have any information if thermobaric weapon systems were used in actual combat in ww2? Unfortunately my recources and information on this topic are quite limited.
@sapperjaeger2 жыл бұрын
faszinierend!
@JesperJuulKeller2 жыл бұрын
10:15 - Since mortars were called "Minenwerfer" during WW1, could they mean heavier, more high explosive, but shorter range shells, maybe? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minenwerfer
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized2 жыл бұрын
maybe, for me the sentence does not make much sense, I think some words etc. were mixed up.
@kimjanek6462 жыл бұрын
Mortar shells were called Werfergranaten and Werfer refered to anything from Mortars to Rocket Artillery. Like the Nebeltruppen used Nebelwerfer which at first were mortars and later Nebelwerfer was the name given to the infamous German Rocket Artillery.
@Teh0X2 жыл бұрын
eine Panzermine! ein Flammenwerfer! ein Brückengerät! Straight from Hitler's speech I'm sure.
@fabio61702 жыл бұрын
Any documents on e 75 or e 50 tanks ?
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized2 жыл бұрын
Nothing I have seen so far. The weirdest thing I have seen in the archives was related to the Panther.
@fabio61702 жыл бұрын
@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized Do u you have something on Panther F ? Last mass produced design?
@einfachignorieren61562 жыл бұрын
@@fabio6170 G is the last Model Produced, F doesnt exist. F is created by war thunder combining a Schmallturm ( Narrow turret) and a G chassis.
@fabio61702 жыл бұрын
@@einfachignorieren6156 No F variant is the last one. But its without the new turret.
@einfachignorieren61562 жыл бұрын
@@fabio6170 thats a Panther II.
@grizwoldphantasia50052 жыл бұрын
This has been fascinating but only leaves me hungrier for that glorious tasty L-food. What might satisfy my L-starvation would be some kind of map of factory locations by type and capacity, road and rail networks, power plants, coal and iron and other mines, etc, all overlaid by a daily movement of the front lines. The last few months of the war, say from the time the original German borders were crossed, are like some forbidden L-fruit, leaving me wondering just how the Germans managed to produce and distribute anything at all, let alone what they actually did. The same situation applies to Japan in many ways; how did they manage to product any fuel or anything at all after the last tanker arrived in March 1945 (I think)? But my L-starvation is likely to remain, because such a project would take too long, and the L-topic doesn't interest enough people. A similar unsatisfied topic is European borders. I'd love to find an animated map of the borders going back to Charlemagne, with different colors for language and religion, and of course with current borders always present as a way to orient myself. This began when I read somewhere that when WW I began in 1914, there were only two democracies in Europe (FR and UK), everything else being monarchies, although that seemed like a pretty sloppy distinction, with the UK still having a king and Germany having a parliament. But it was such a surprise that it got me curious about borders and how they had changed, and Wikipedia's maps from the Congress of Vienna in 1815 aren't enough.
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized2 жыл бұрын
was thinking several times about doing a map, but the data is generally limited and I also don't really like to make maps, particularly the borders...
@grizwoldphantasia50052 жыл бұрын
@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized Not to mention that dreaded L-word :-) And at some point, extra quality has diminishing returns. You strike a good balance.
@craigplatel8132 жыл бұрын
Look up historical atlas by William R Shepard. I think edition 9 is the current one. I just checked Amazon has it for about $16. Thrift book might have it cheaper
@grizwoldphantasia50052 жыл бұрын
@@craigplatel813 I only see an 8th edition on Amazon, hardcover, $125. One which appears to be later by date says "1911", is leather bound, and $60. I'll put it on my wishlist. Thanks.
@Killer_B742 жыл бұрын
Please do Final Weapons of Fascist Italy
@Simon-jj2pu Жыл бұрын
I know this is a bit personal, but what accent does the presenter have? It sounds to me like northern western german, but I would love to know
@cm2759 ай бұрын
He’s Austrian.
@54032Zepol2 жыл бұрын
*Meanwhile in Ukraine* "AK-47s for everyone!!" -president volodymyr
@theromanorder2 жыл бұрын
Yes very funny just one question...... IS THERE ANYWHERE I CAN GO TO LEARN WITHOUT BEING BONBARTED BY MODERN CRAP ANYMORE!!!!!!! yes i pray for Ukraine i understand Russia pov (historians but take all sides were not allowed to have 1) but come on in just beginning to go through Afghanistans war yes im looking at this war with they eyes of a stratagest (and having fun predicting the war) but can people leave modern stuff in there place?
@54032Zepol2 жыл бұрын
@@theromanorder oh you mean like a roman talking about world war two??
@theromanorder2 жыл бұрын
@@54032Zepol ha ha ha. Very funny romans can predict the future anyone can try predict the future but going non cannon it would be near impossible for me to keep changing my account just because im learning something
@looinrims2 жыл бұрын
@@theromanorder the Russians have no pov, just like Mr Mustache mentioned in the video didn’t have a pov by invading Czechia or Austria
@theromanorder2 жыл бұрын
@@looinrims yes they do they have a reson but not a 100% good moral. This could all be fixed with no militarys.
@Swellington_2 жыл бұрын
Boda bing boda BOOM!
@nexus89172 жыл бұрын
Ah...a United Maintenance Plan.
@MikeHunt-rw4gf2 жыл бұрын
Algorithm.
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized2 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@MikeHunt-rw4gf2 жыл бұрын
@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized You're welcome!
@matthewcraver99172 жыл бұрын
"Amateurs study weapons and tactics, dilettantes study strategy, professionals study logistics." - Unknown. Thank you for showing clearly how, even in the last four months of the war, the German leadership were obsessing with weapons and overlooking, yet again, logistics.
@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized2 жыл бұрын
I know the statement without the strategy part and it is from USMC General, I completely disagree with the strategy part and it makes no sense, since logistics alone doesn't do anything. About the quote without strategy, it is correct for the USMC, but clearly not for everyone, further explanation in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZ-Tc6OHn56dp8U
@princeofcupspoc90732 жыл бұрын
15:00 It's the same reason that Hitler did not declare total war production until the very end. The German arms industry had significant power, to the level that Hitler himself was reluctant to change the manufacturing process. In the US the obsolescent M4 Medium Tank (Sherman) was kept in production when better tanks were already designed and tested. Chrysler made so much profit, they did not want to change. The same with Fiat in Italy, and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries in Japan. In Germany Krupp, Rheinmetall, MAN were making huge profits on their production, and had no interest in changing their production lines. It's only when Hitler took a back seat and let Speer give the orders that industry was forced to start listening.
@primmakinsofis6142 жыл бұрын
Changing production lines is no simple thing. Significant retooling is required, which causes production to slow or cease in the interim. It's one of the reasons the P-47J was never put into production in the U.S., despite its outstanding performance: it would have required significant retooling of the assembly lines, and that would have sharply reduced P-47 production during the switchover. And since the existing models of P-47 were doing the job well, the loss of production was deemed not worth the performance increase.
@gluestickgenius26442 жыл бұрын
As I understand it, the Soviets also only changed tank models rather late. They kept to incremental improvements to keep the production lines running until the switch was deemed crucial. I don't think the arms industry played a role here. I also don't understand why the industry bosses would refuseHitler but listen to Speer.
@Grimmtoof2 жыл бұрын
Also switching production of the M4 to M26 would have required new flatbed railway wagons and cranes in addition to taking up more shipping space across the Atlantic. Given the delays and the resources that would have been requited (and could have been put to better uses such as making many more M4s) it was judged not worth it.
@michaeldunne3382 жыл бұрын
@@gluestickgenius2644 The classic T-34 / 85 went into production in early 1944. So yes, basically available in the last 16 or so months of the war.
@noprisoners86212 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the slave labour in concentration camps.
@charlesdexterward77812 жыл бұрын
Hitler, January 1945: "Ok, ok. I will admit this is an emergency." Trudeau, February 2022: "Because insolent truckers are mocking The Great Reset and my fellow elites, I hereby invoke Canada's Emergency Powers Act for the first time in history."
@doucettealexander982 жыл бұрын
The emergencies act has been used 4 times to date WW1 WW2 The October crisis And during the trucker protests Also Justin's daddy called in the VanDoos so I'd say he handled this a bit more tame
@primmakinsofis6142 жыл бұрын
@@doucettealexander98 No, those first three were the War Measures Act. That act was replaced by the Emergency Measures Act in 1988, and, on paper at least, the new act contained more protections for Charter rights, and required Parliament to approve its use, which was not the case with its predecessor.
@michaeldunne3382 жыл бұрын
85 to 90% of truckers were vaccinated. 65 to 70% of the public supported vaccine mandates in some form going into the new year. Just about every poll showed mark opposition of the public to that fringe blockading traffic - by super majorities in many cases (64- 69%, including 72% saying that fringe should go home) . Not sure why you had to bring up that off topic subject, but I guess a fringe that has members waving Nazi and Confederate flags/symbols maybe has something to do with another fringe, the Nazis, from 77 years ago? But don't seem much of a connection there.
@doucettealexander982 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldunne338 maybe it's because idiots attract idiots
@WangMingGe2 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldunne338 You should step away from the mainstream media brainwashing and have a look at all the claims by the CBC etc which have since been rescinded, as soon as defamation claims got launched. But, folks like you buying whatever the government says, hook line and sinker is what lets abusive governments get into power in the first place...and history shows it happens tragically often.
@filibandicoot15802 жыл бұрын
being a german was tinkist der about this whole ukraine russia thing, makes me think that if yall wouldnt have done all that nazi shit in ww2 the western Allies could have let the germans focus on taking out russia and the world would be a different place
@ChadTanker2 жыл бұрын
dude no also this isnt an channel for politics
@lobsterbark2 жыл бұрын
The world would be a significantly worse place if that happened.
@filibandicoot15802 жыл бұрын
@@ChadTanker dont get your panties all in a bunch its just a question and its beyond politics. its a serious event in world history and this is a ww2 channel and what do you think ww2 was a war with a lot of politics involved just like this thing ukraine is, and i can ask any question i want lil sis lol
@filibandicoot15802 жыл бұрын
@@ChadTanker also he aint even got to talk about the politics involved in all this i would like to kno what he thinks from a tactical standpoint. i dont get into serious political convo cuz im not qualified to make an accurate informed decision no civilan is really cuz there is alot l going on behind the curtin that we dont know about. i hate when people make a big deal about politics we should be able to have light hearted convos about stuff with out ppl like u gettin all hot and botherd about it. big facts