Mate, you missed the most obvious/under-rated messenger...... Noctis' phone.
@duelverse84107 жыл бұрын
Smurfy yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah boi
@Alfercruz6 жыл бұрын
Fucking genius XD
@SephirothSpirit7 жыл бұрын
Isnt it because every single Lucis King had the light of the crystal on their side from the beginning that they were able to weild the Armiger Weapons? Noctis wasn't able to harness it from there at the beginning so he had to physically go to each tomb, something the previous Kings had no reason to do and why Bahamut made Cor guide him to the first 2. Also, after the 10 year Gap, Noctis bathed in the crystals light. So its possible that because he did that, he was able to finally summon them all even if he didnt reach every tomb beforehand. The fact that Lunafreya was able to gift it to him temporarily against the fight with Leviathan, was because she was a messenger of the Gods and it took her dying breath to commit to that last action maybe?
@SlyMelodica.7 жыл бұрын
SephirothSpirit maybe being an Oracle she awoken his latent ability to use the armiger at that time because Canon wise he should have all the royal arms but in the end he basically asks the past kings of Lucis to come to him
@lemurkidpavlova75377 жыл бұрын
SephirothSpirit It may be that Noctis, being the Chosen, had to prove himself by going out and discovering the lost weapons in a way to strengthen his bloodline ready to be processed into the Ring of the Lucii in that 10 year gap. It could also be the point made about Luna, in that among the Oracle's abilities is to awaken the Armiger in it's crystal-like state. The Sword of the Father that Noctis uses in Gralea is the physical thing carried by Ravus...so maybe the Armiger is just stronger if you obtain the weapon's power yourself. Or the kings are annoying and resell everything after just cause.
@bella_iris7 жыл бұрын
That makes sense since Noct hadn't been officially crowned or designated as King yet and that would explain having to physically go get them.
@lemurkidpavlova75377 жыл бұрын
Yeah, maybe one of the perks of Kingship is not searching dangerous dungeons for your heritage cause nobody got time for that
@Alysana26047 жыл бұрын
DID ANYONE SAY ARDYN closes book quits game pauses TV show smashes a few cups drops a baby GO ON, PLEASE I'M LISTENING EDIT: Amen btw.
@Zindril7 жыл бұрын
This is exactly my reaction when I hear about Ardyn, only exception, I wouldn't drop my baby, I would have her listen to learn about this badass too xD Also if that profile picture is yours, your hair color looks like a slightly darker version of Ardyn's xD that's epic!
@byksEBM7 жыл бұрын
Deno could be messenger of Titan cause his obsession with jewels/rocks🤔
@farmsalot12337 жыл бұрын
Wish I was rich ,would pay square Enix to fully flesh out this story .
@symbiote32207 жыл бұрын
Anthony Tosh that's ironic . Because ..... no one should have to pay any more to the company to get what little we got for our money. It's criminal, especially because this ff's story isn't good enough to warrant more anyway
@Wykesidefruitmachine7 жыл бұрын
Anthony Tosh We all did pay Square Enix to fully flesh out the story... but they didn't.
@xiaoyubydoune27007 жыл бұрын
ouch... this unfortunate truth
@zwei31797 жыл бұрын
blame nomura he was all over the place with the game. If the guy who took over stayed as the creator from the start. This story would of been ten times better
@lordcthulhu31707 жыл бұрын
that was going through my mind every days dude
@amamedoi7 жыл бұрын
Stop you're making my love for Ardyn overflow
@amamedoi7 жыл бұрын
XxHelterSkelterxX Stfu Hannah
@clairereturns25847 жыл бұрын
Sora LOL 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Rivershield7 жыл бұрын
All of this actually make me angrier, because this WASN'T IN THE GAME! Why?!!!! Why for god sake this wasn't in the game?! It could maybe have been the best FF to date! I don't know if I should hate or love Square Enix.
@KevinNguyen8087 жыл бұрын
they made a game that was supposed to release a couple years ago but took forever cus of problems and then rushed to publish a game that was already late and had to cut out content.
@lemurkidpavlova75377 жыл бұрын
Rivershield Sometimes forcing your way through lore and backstory that isn't immediately there or obvious can make the world and story that much more satisfying on an individual level? Might just be me!
@Rivershield7 жыл бұрын
Lemurkid Pavlova I'm just pissed off because of the wasted potential of this game, giving all the content that were cutted of the final product.
@lemurkidpavlova75377 жыл бұрын
Rivershield Definitely a lot of great missing content and I get you, it's a massive waste of potential in places. Hell, I didn't even know Noctis was this Chosen person until meeting with Bahamut pre-endgame. A lot of things a poorly explained but an imperfect product just leads to more interest in everything it's missing! Maybe the writers are getting inspiration from us to fill in the rest, almost like how Mass Effect 3's ending was obviously leading to the Indoctrination Theory...but, who knows. More thinking = more fun
@Rivershield7 жыл бұрын
Lemurkid Pavlova Altought I agree with you, it's not like if thinking and formulating theories are as good as seing them in practice. Honestly, in my opinion all of this is useless if none will be in the game. This situation is not like Dark Souls for example, where you have a series of fragmented information that are given IN-GAME, which fans use to formulate theories and keep the community going on speculating things. In FFXV we had a lot of plot holes that are being filled with information from external sources, from statments of developers involved in the game, from official guidebooks. This is not good at all. Yes, it is interesting to discuss these things and viewing videos like this one, but we do it in hopes that some of this might be IN THE GAME. I never looked forward to DLCs as much as I do now with FFXV. I hope that they don't screw up things by making DLC plotwise irrelevant.
@zero55597 жыл бұрын
Sequel? Lets have a FF15-2 based 2000 years ago(or more) as a young Ardyn and Play what happened back then. Maybe, we will realize who to actual enemy was? XD
@kenamocomptondos76997 жыл бұрын
zero5559 The "real" enemy was Ifrit, he caused the Starscourge, which is why Bahumut and Shiva were so intent on destroying him. Personally I felt Ardyn wasn't the villain he put him self as. though he did some pretty despicable acts he was working for Ifrit. I personally felt like Ardyn wanted to die and that's why he helps noctis. it's the only way to truly destroy the star scourge he was originally meant to cure. As long as he lived so did the scourge
@angelgirl9767 жыл бұрын
Yes I need this in my life!
@joeyzapata67867 жыл бұрын
Ardyn was a total prick; he killed Luna, killed her brother, destroyed both Luna and Noc's hometowns and purged the world into darkness. I can't remember the last FF villain I was so invested in delivering an ass whopping to LOL.
@kenamocomptondos76997 жыл бұрын
Very true, Ardyn is a worthy antagonist though do note all those events benefitted Ifrit the most. Luna worked personally with Shiva who was Ifrit's biggest enemy. Insomnia was the home of the last thing capable of stopping the starscourge that Ifrit started. That world of darkness is Ifrit's end goal, Ardyn was his pawn in it for the revenge against the royal family and to end his immortal life he grew disdainful of. This is all assuming that Ifrit is the main antagonist plotting everything which the events seem to suggest.
@neckroteddy7 жыл бұрын
The game says Luna is the youngest Oracle in the game story, an Oracle is the messenger FROM humans to gods. In the story messengers can go through what we know as "time", just like gods. The gods know that darkness (created from a virus/plague) is going to fill the entire world. So the human king, Ardyn, tries to save the world via the crystal power (Bahamut) but is not worthy of the light because he is greedy so he becomes an inmortal vial of darkness and daemons. Prophecy of the gods says that a king worthy of the crystal power can save the world... In the times of the game, just as Noctis can time travel thanks to Umbra, gods send a message (the omen trailer) through the messenger of the gods, Pryna, to the messenger of the humans, Lunafreya. Even when this has a very big price: due to the huge time travel Pryna and Luna have to die. This time travel is to change the world. From here Pryna and Luna are only alive while they change the future. That's why Luna is not "afraid" of dying, because she knows how things end up and she has a duty to fulfill. Regis and Ravus know about this omen too, possibly Regis via Ardyn and Ravus via her sister. Ardyn (the human-king-ancestor part) is "making" a king worthy of the light so he (the darkness) can be banished from the world. Regis knows peace treaty is a lie and he is going to die, he also knows what Ardyn wants and he has the duty of sacrificing his own son to stop darkness. But he is aware that Noctis is not "worthy" of the crystal power because Noctis won't sacrifice his own life for others just as any human tries to survive before becoming a martyr. So Regis send his son on a trip WITH not bodyguards but "brothers" and make Noctis see, feel and live things like lost, angry, pain, joy, care and sacrifice so he has a "kingdom" to protect. Regis is too old to become the king of light (he's not even a match for Glauca) and he knows the Lucis Caelum bloodline is only alive until darkness is banished from the world. Noctis won't ever have a happy "ending" so Regis decides to use Umbra to give Noctis a very good life with his chocobros even when Noctis will die. Since Ravus sacrificed his own honor and life becoming an Imperial puppet just to save his sister, he thinks this "omen" is a stupid thing. He doesn't think Noctis can archive all this things, he doesn't think Noctis has the strength and he doesn't belive Luna should sacrifice for Noctis. That's why he hates Noctis as a human-prince but believes in her sister's idea of the King of Light saving the world. Ravus trusts this omen when Noctis starts receiving gods blessings and the imperial forces crumble. In the beginning he doesn't believe the omen so he tries to use the ring and his arm burns, with this he believes and he "carry" Regis sword as if he "wanted" power but he takes the sword so the empire can't destroy it or use it, until he can gave it to Noctis. Luna was going to give the ring to Noctis once she was sure he was worthy of it. But in the Leviathan coven scene Ardyn allows Noctis to have the ring, so he ends Luna suffering and kills her. She tells Ardyn that she will go on until Noctis become the "rightfull king" and that doesn't matter if she suffers because once the darkness falls everybody will know peace. But Ardyn is like "you have done enough, take a rest" so he says "how sweet, but you first". Of course he does it in a twisted way because of the darkness in him. Ardyn kills Luna so the prophecy can go on, Noctis needs to feel sadness and angry so he is willing to stop Ardyn at any cost. Before dying Luna touches Ardyn's arm so her duty can go on inside the crystal (at the end of the game). I had the doubt about why the game story said Shiva was slayed and that line about Shiva/Gentiana "the face she wore the day she-". I always thought Gentiana was a human and she became a messenger I think Gentiana did something so good in her lifetime that she earned the right to become a messenger. I believe since Shiva hasn't a body she just materialize through the messenger Gentiana. And now... what I believe about Luna, Noctis and the end of the game: BOTH NOCTIS AND LUNA BECAME MESSENGERS Both sacrificed themselves to save the world so they earned the right to become inmortal messengers just as Gentiana. A couple like Pryna and Umbra. And they ended up together, "dead" in body but inmortals in soul. Gentiana always has her eyes closed because she doesn't need them as a normal human. At the end of the game Noctis and Luna close their eyes...
@thatssomegoodpie7 жыл бұрын
I want a FF15-2 so bad... make it happens square-enix, FF15 sold great so you have plenty of reasons to make a sequel.
@MoistChungus7 жыл бұрын
Thatssomegoodpie Animations 15-2 could easily be something like what cor was doing during kingsglaive and xv
@thatssomegoodpie7 жыл бұрын
Moist-Noct Or a prequel about Regis his adventures with Cid and Wheskam. Or a game about the 10 year gap.
@mauri29817 жыл бұрын
Thatssomegoodpie Animations They will not be doing a sequel. The reason why is because many of their sequels like FFX-2, FFXIII-2, etc. Weren't very popular and didn't sell very well. That is why Final Fantasy XV will be just one game and the movie Kingsglaive, the anime Brotherhood, Ultimanina, and future DLC will be made and was made so that it will help expand the story without having to add sequels.
@twitchywitchx7 жыл бұрын
I'd like some movies too.
@thatssomegoodpie7 жыл бұрын
Mauri Well frankly that sucks cause FF15 could really use some sequels.
@joon_ffdreamless10177 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Regis could have been a messenger. He was able to communicate witch Bahamut (?) through the crystal in Omen and he knew about the fate of his son from the very beginning
@Astraldymensions7 жыл бұрын
Square Enix needs to put you in their writers room.
@kamenidriss7 жыл бұрын
I want a dlc dedicated on Gentiana, she's my favourite character along with aranea highland
@clairereturns25847 жыл бұрын
Vincent Edenel LOL
@wakkaluciscaelum16707 жыл бұрын
I don't know why I'm laughing.
@TheHeroRobertELee7 жыл бұрын
highwind!! It's fucking highwind. Jesus....I swear it's like nobody has ever played a FF game. Cid highwnd? The highwind air ship?
@pheonixwright61777 жыл бұрын
Casey Jones I think its in relation to Kain Highwind ff4, a dragoon knight known for their jump ability.
@TheHeroRobertELee7 жыл бұрын
pheonix wright I know
@JustAdam1237 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ this game's story is so fucking hype behind the scenes. XD Also: AMEN MY DUDES
@LordDelow7 жыл бұрын
The think reason Ardyn killed Luna is simple, he didn't want her to make more covenants for Noctis. They blatantly said 3 of the gods were dead in the game, killed by the Empire. This leads me to believe Luna had to power as an oracle to reincarnate the gods. This would explain why Gentianna was able to become the new host of Shiva, being a holy messenger. However, the 3 gods that are dead would have to be Shiva, Bahamut, and Ifrit. If Ardyn led the fight against those 3 gods, I don't see him being a messenger of Ifrit at all. It would make no sense to kill the god you're aligned to, even for Ardyn. Especially since we basically see him summon Ifrit's new host himself. I'm going to go out on a limb here, but that was Nyx, which explains the burnt arm. Why else did we find his daggers in the city on a psychomancer. I don't think Bahamut actually was killed, wounded perhaps, but I think he retreated into the crystal to heal. As well, Gentianna was the first oracle, and the king receiving the crystal was Ardyn, which he got from Bahamut. Ardyn was betrayed by his brother Izunia when he consumed to many daemons, and lost his shit. The blood line continued to the present ending in Regis and Noctis. This was much longer than 13 kings though. Noctis' full name is Noctis Lucis Caelum CXIV, meaning he is the 114th generation of Lucian blooded rulers. Now on to the summons, because you got 2 summons fairly early on, and then Leviathan in Altissia. I don't think Titan died during your fight with him, I think he wanted you to prove yourself worthy, before submitting. We can clearly see he didn't leave a corpse and he faded into earth energy(I can only assume), to be absorbed by Noctis. We can't confirm a Leviathan corpse or lack there of sadly, but we can't disprove it didn't do the same thing Titan did, test Noctis. Luckily Ramuh freely gave his power, or we would have had one hell of a fight, way too early in the game. Titan went well because we had magitek backup. It was a fight stacked in our odds to stand up to a god. By the time we reached Altissia, Noctis had come more into his own powers. He was ready to fight a god, even if Luna had to call the royal arms from the tombs for him. His body was able to handle the power long enough to pass Leviathan's test, even if he did go into coma like state for a short while afterwards. The jab Ardyn took at Gentianna was more aimed her true self from the past in my opinion, when she was his oracle. tl;dr The oracle has more powers than we know. Ardyn killed Ifrit and Shiva for sure. Ardyn is a dick.
@OwtDaftUK7 жыл бұрын
This theory video is amazing. It saddens me though because of 'what if'. I hope we get a lot more story in DLC or updates.
@OwtDaftUK7 жыл бұрын
As long as I doubt die by then.
@jamesbadeker72017 жыл бұрын
Cerberus might be one of Ifrits messengers
@xiaoyubydoune27007 жыл бұрын
I could buy that
@rtql8d7 жыл бұрын
James Badeker makes sense. Also, I love how it was the same design as the FFVIII version, just way more detailed.
@CharlyZiock7 жыл бұрын
What about the two old ladies? When you fight Adamantoise and you speak with everyone at the Crow Nest, both are talking in a table and one is dressed in white, the other in black. Reminded me so much of Pryna and Umbra (Maybe human forms?) Also Ezma (the one that gives you the keys for the vaults, white one) says to Noctis that she is the keeper of the eight seals. I don't believe she goes there by herself, obviously she teleports there since dungeons are dangerous. The other old lady, Kimya (the witch dressed in black) she spokes in a very legendary way in "The Witch in the Woods" quest similar to Gentiana. Hope this helps :)
@StraightcheD7 жыл бұрын
Your capacity for observation is awesome. I think you're absolutely insane and amazing..!!
@miguelitomarques87 жыл бұрын
I actually clapped my hands when you said "Nyx Ulric" I love the guy and always thought that was more to him than meets the eye.
@symbiote32207 жыл бұрын
The official guide officially connects gentiana and shiva being one in the same since ever.... 9/10 your points are theorized inconsistencies
@symbiote32207 жыл бұрын
And the same guide lists ardyn as ifrits servant
@FinalFantasyPeasant7 жыл бұрын
Except Gentiana and Shiva haven't been the same since forever lol. Shiva literally only woke up 11 years ago... and was an ice giantess... while at the same time Gentiana was watching Luna. This is all confirmed. There is no refuting it. It even states Gentiana is a sent 'apostle'. Not really sure if you've watched the vid because this isn't a speculative or theorized point. Also let's not talk about the 'guide'. It is so old and innacurate that the ultimania trumps it 100%. It doesn't even reference Clarus' name properly.
@symbiote32207 жыл бұрын
Final Fantasy Peasant if gen reveals herself as shiva, her presence during the past 11 years doesn't refute anything... you're saying gentiana therefore was a woman who seemingly took on shivas everything when in fact she simply just "reveals" her true form. Ardyn recognizes her as the goddess... by stating he knows her appearance when he fell her. That's in the game... there's no trying to look deeper in theories or un confirming sources. That giant you see that's down...that just shows you her giant form from long ago...the snow storm happens because she sneakily is around as to make her appearance as gen just as she's been for some time.. and the guides you say are wrong, are taken from the actual compositions plot entirely... it doesn't have anything that was revised...simply same entity..alias appearance
@FinalFantasyPeasant7 жыл бұрын
Again. "Gentiana is a beautiful APOSTLE sent by the gods" -FFXV Ultimania Do you know what apostle and sent mean?
@MalakiaLaGattaNera7 жыл бұрын
The only illustrated page of the Cosmogony book we see pictures Gentiana AND the woman on the cover together. Gentiana is a winged messenger escorted by Umbra and Pryna and the Oracle (aka the woman with the trident) is standing next to who's either Ardyn or Izunia (or whatever the 'jealous king' is called) They're clearly 2 different people.
@syed26947 жыл бұрын
That trailer of the chef killing Ultros? Probably Titan in disguise.
@MalakiaLaGattaNera7 жыл бұрын
Pfffffft nice one dude.
@Shidah2Izumi7 жыл бұрын
LOL! x'D
@syed26947 жыл бұрын
MercilessV Cuts, dev time, pressure from higher ups, also the fact that Nyx killed him? It would be an insult to Nyx's sacrifice to leave him alive after all that.
@Shidah2Izumi7 жыл бұрын
MercilessV Go rewatch the movie. Glauca die before Nyx while watching sunrise.
@xerintherhapsidos8387 жыл бұрын
Maybe Ifrit's mastery over Ardyn is a result of the scourge, not a deliberate choice. Either that or Ardyn turned to Ifrit after doing all the work he did and then got rejected by the rest of the hexatheon. Or maybe a bit of both. By furthering his own ends, he does what Ifrit desired and turned the world to ruin...but he also spurred Noctis into ruining Ifrit's plans in the end by making sure he became the king of light. Ardyn got his revenge on the Five, the remnant Lucis Caelum house, his own release from endless suffering and eternal torment in the form of forced servitude to the dark, and a massive F you to Ifrit all at the same time. Sly-ception indeed
@Scarx2gt7 жыл бұрын
The story could have been a lot better but it felt so rushed. Tbh I wouldn't mind a directors cut edition...lol where they fixed all the damn story problems.
@fattiger69577 жыл бұрын
I think, by the end of the game, the gods have left Eos. The Daemons are gone, the Fleuret and Caelum bloodlines are ended; it would make sense in the narrative that gods are no longer interfering with the fate of humanity. IMO, Noctis not only had to take the powers of his ancestors, but also of the gods to defeat Arden. When Noctis died, he took the gods with him to the afterlife.
@AnoobisGaming7 жыл бұрын
im calling it. Cor is a former king of Lucis. he uses a katana, one of the armiger weapons is a katana, he's apparently immortal, and apparently its very well possible hes a messenger of Bahamut. hell i bet his story spans other games as well just under different names.
@angelgirl9767 жыл бұрын
I love these videos. Your enthusiasm is infectious and its fun to hear these theories while we wait for more story DLC.
@killxtech13027 жыл бұрын
18 views in under a minute. you're more popular now 😉
@FinalFantasyPeasant7 жыл бұрын
sorry, that was just me checking 18 times that no audio or scenes had failed to upload ;) :P
@iiiKomi_Korneriii7 жыл бұрын
116 views now:D Pez is Popular :D
@N0rm267 жыл бұрын
Nearly 25k subs id say he is very popular :P Come a long way has our Pezzy
@iiiKomi_Korneriii7 жыл бұрын
Very much so 😀So proud of PEZ 😃
@rihannasalem44757 жыл бұрын
Oh Peasant! About Cor, from the beginning of the game he told Noctis that there were Thirteen Royal Tombs in all, but later on in the game we receive two of the Armiger Weapons from Shiva/Gentiana and the other from Ravus. What would you make of this?~ I've been trying to piece something together but I've got nothing!~
@behemothokun7 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Ardyn's line wasn't complete in the english version . . . but then, I played the game with german subtitles and it does fit; you can even hear him form the "d" of "died" when he got frozen. but yeah, the subs clearly spelt it out.
@TheSphereHunter7 жыл бұрын
The kupo in the end of this video is the best one by far.
@TheHeroRobertELee7 жыл бұрын
It's called a moogle. Please actually play a real final fantasy game.
@TheSphereHunter7 жыл бұрын
He says KUPO in the end of the video right?
@TheHeroRobertELee7 жыл бұрын
every fucking moogle says kupo!!! There's no such thing as a kupo!! It's a moogle!! Clearly you haven't "kupo" or you'd know they're called moogles "kupo" and that all moogles say kupo "kupo''. duh so many ff n00bs on here that know nothing and are all pretenders. especially with a name about "lightning" when ff13 was the worst ff of all time lmfao
@TheSphereHunter7 жыл бұрын
At the end of the video pez says Kupo, I was talking about that.
@TheHeroRobertELee7 жыл бұрын
Sue Lightning right, which is a moogle reference. because that's what moogles say.
@gamerunner207 жыл бұрын
I just figured it out- Luna is not a messenger of Shiva. She is a messenger for EOS. This is confirmed only by one hunch: at the end of the game, there is a sequence that features Luna at the side of Noctis as he sits on the throne. This then becomes of the start-up menu when you go to resume your game, but instead of Luna at Noctis's side, leaning her head on his shoulder, it is the one-winged EOS. Eos lives on through Lunafreya.
@inxine7 жыл бұрын
english translations are mostly so different from the original or even german ones. *looking at FFX* i also think one of the reasons why Lunas body was weak, is simply because she was talking to the gods, the rites, convincing the gods that noctis is the chosen king. i mean we all saw that leviathan attacked Luna when she tried to convince her/him/it.
@CryingMaxys7 жыл бұрын
Also, I really hope you'll read this because I want your opinion on it: I think Bahamut was once a chosen King of Lucis, we knew that he was once a king of lucis, but not a chosen one, just like Noctis, and had the same purpose or a similar one. Why ? My assumption of this idea is based on two facts: First you can see eyes through Bahamut helmet, and this IS a helmet, that alone is a pretty huge detail when you think about it, it's a person inside some kind of godly dragon armor, in my opinion it strenghtens the idea of a person ascended to an Astral/God. And secondly, and that my friend, you almost got it covered entirely in this video, you have the fact that he unleash 13 swords just like Noctis's Armiger AND the animation of Bahamut's Ultima Sword is alsmost exaclty the same as Noctis when he unleash the final blow against Leviathan and Ardyn when he uses the power of the chosen king, the swords positioning, the arms, play them side by side and see for yourself ! Tell me what you think about it Peas :) Sorry for my english, not my native x)
@Nekross066 жыл бұрын
In FFXV Brotherhood, after kid Noct is attacked by the daemon for the first time, he wakes up in his bed with a charm in the shape of Carbuncle on his pillow. His dad then says "Noct...I won't let anyone hurt you." Maybe Carbuncle isn't an Astral or Messenger, but an enchantment from his father. In easy mode, Carbuncle protects Noct from death (in most cases), holding true to his fathers words.
@swordofetro82916 жыл бұрын
People also don't realize that Gentiana is thousands of years old, gave up her sight for the Eyes of Etro, and assumed the role of being an avatar for Shiva. She is most definitely not human. This is all Ultimania. What is not Ultimania, (and I have no source I'm able to post here, sorry) but I much more preferred her original design as written for FFVersusXIII. She originally lived in a hidden, upper mountainous region, was the actual blood relative of the original bloodline of Etro for this world, and is the great-great-great-infinity grandmother of Stella, who is the current day real blood-relative of Etro. The Lucis bloodline is the abomination that transpired from Etro's mortal body (when she visited what they call Eos now) and literally fell in love with a human (name never given) had a child, and that line became the 'corrupted' bloodline, a great shame to Etro (she couldn't forgive herself for falling for mortal things like love, intimacy, etc.) and was her eternal shame. Ardyn, who was originally a Fal'Cie (yup) created by Etro to watch over mankind as the Guardian of the Planet, used Etro's fall for man as the entire excuse for the argument amongst The Maker (unseen god who created all, and is in the Unseen Realm) how she was no longer worthy to be a god. Etro put her mark on him (like God marked Cain in the Bible) and made him stripped of his god status and forced to live on Eos for this. It drove him mad, and he decided he would use "the darkness in man's hearts" to revert mankind back to their "true nature", then use this massive army to storm Etro's Gate, kill his maker, and assume her role as the God of the Dead. This is the entire reason why he started to manipulate the Lucian bloodline thousands of years ago and wanted to use them as his personal 'chosen' (pretty much L'Cie) to get his own personal vengeance. Ain't fan fiction, it's actually the story as it was written all the way up till the end of 2012, before the last few elements of the VS Epic was thrown out. Hell, all of this even leaked online by a Japanese ex-employee, and you can find all of it if you look for the original script online. (It's everywhere now, and legit). All of this has so much more of a meaty and epic story than the nothingness we got for FFXV. I felt like I wanted to type all of this because I love sharing with everyone how amazing the original FNC lore used to be. Hopefully, well really, I DO think we will somehow get to see all of this one day. I think it would be fucking wonderful to bring all of this back in Ardyn's game, considering it isn't relatively known, but still completely awesome. Nomura wrote it with what's his name who did the FNC bible. Man, what a great story. Aight, peace.
@clairereturns25847 жыл бұрын
If anyone is curious about that flying creature on the red sky scene, just so you know.. that thing is actually in the game and its flying around Gralea in Chapter 13
@Astraldymensions7 жыл бұрын
XxHelterSkelterxX O_o damit all
@andria12687 жыл бұрын
Dino was a messenger of Titan, the earth god. You had to find gems, so that makes sense. Cindy was a messenger as well, I think. Both sent you on quests, both became serious about you undertaking these quests at some point. I remember Prompto bringing this up once after you accept a quest from Dino.
@ptitphilosophede13an7 жыл бұрын
Theory: Ifrit for some reason, went against the will of the other gods. Seeing as Ifrit's messenger (with the burnt arm) was possibly the current user of the rung of Lucii, Bahamut retaliated by making the ring reject him hence the burnt arm. Out of rage Ifrit probably fought one or more gods, leading to his death. To survive he transferred to his messenger's body. Side theory: We know Ifrit was not entirely against humanity in the beginning but something led him to bring the star scourge to Eos. I theorize that one of his messengers (replaced afterwards by Ardyn) fought against another messenger for personal reasons (Probably Bahamut's messenger replaced by Nyx). Both killing each other, leading to Ifrit's rebellion.
@suenzhong78917 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that what made Ardyn immortal was not necessarily him being a messenger but rather the sheer amount of daemons he absorbed...
@CursedZorthan7 жыл бұрын
Kingsglaive: There was a huge monster with tentacles. I thought it was Orthros but maybe it was Kraken who was going after Luna. Meldacio: They are no ordinary hunters. Ezma IS some sort of a keeper, who has the key for the secret dungeons. Also end-game you will see that they brought significant amount of information about Starscourge. And Sania MAY be one of them Kimya: Do you remember the Runes on the Havens? She was supposedly one of those who makes these Runes repelling the daemons. Randolph: The blacksmith who makes you legendary weapons. A messenger of Bahamut, Astral of Swords?
@JoshuaBushman7 жыл бұрын
As to why Regis has Armiger weapons: He likely didn't go to all the same tombs as Noctis. He's the 113th King of Lucis, and each previous king could well have left tombs with Armiger weapons.
@kainhighwind9787 жыл бұрын
Peasant that vid was awesome, you shed light on so many unexplained points. And I can't believe that the bodies hung up were real, but it makes alot more sense. I also believe that in the omen trailer the black dog at the end represented Ardyn. This is because until Luna was killed by Ardyn in the game, the player (and noctis) didn't know who's side Ardyn was on. And in the trailer Pryna turned into the black dog right after Noctis killed Luna. So in the trailer Ardyn straight up used Noctis to kill Luna, and he was probably able to do so becuase Noctis didn't have his friends (for all we know Ardyn made Luna look like someone else just like he did with Prompto). But in the game he knew Noctis would have done anything to protect Luna (and he also had his friends), so he first introduced himself as a friend and guided Noctis to Altissia. Then when Noctis was weak from the leviathan fight he was able to easily kill Luna.
@xiaoyubydoune27007 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for this video Peas! To add to your comment in the translation at 6:58, in the Japanese version Ardyn also says "That was the beautiful face you had when you were killed, too--" *iced* Comparing versions, it seems the English version was the most vague when describing Shiva/Gentiana's relationship.
@waveoftheweek7 жыл бұрын
"The face you wore the day you died." Is Ardyn basically just saying Shiva took on this face the day she died? Or is he talking about the day Gentiana "died" aka got taken over? How does Ardyn know Gentiana and her face? Like where did he know Gentiana from?
@adrjaco7 жыл бұрын
At the end of the game when Noctis says "kings of Lucis ... come to me" you see a short clip of the spirits gathering at the top of the tower, but you see a spirit Bahamut on the top. I think Bahamut is all of the former kings combined, witch is why his attack is "Ultima Sword" and there being 13, maybe he was only manifested after Regis died?
@JoasXCloud7 жыл бұрын
I dont know why but watching your videos feels like a part of the FFXV Universe, the story feels better with your theories
@Gee0h257 жыл бұрын
We want more! your vids give us so much more info on the actual story that we just couldn't get from the game. keep this stuff coming!
@ChillnTurtle7 жыл бұрын
Holyyy crap. Incredible theory video.. That bit with Ardyn hunting down Shiva's messengers is sooooo interesting. Wow. F... I wish all of this was in the actual game.
@Emrino627 жыл бұрын
I prepared myself and still got mind blowned xD Nice work Pez!
@AbyssWalker07 жыл бұрын
To add on the Bahamut theory. When you summon him and the camera does a close up to his face, you can see his blue eyes and black hair. Kinda like the Lucis family bloodline. Maybe him giving them his power also gave them his traits as well?
@jcie34247 жыл бұрын
Ardyn is like Hisoka from HxH, they have the same personality, both are mysterious, both help the main character to achieve their goal so they can fight them at their fullest.
@thebard80487 жыл бұрын
Carbuncle has to be one of Bahumut's messengers because it comes to aid Noctis while he is in his coma
@craigmcguire98537 жыл бұрын
I think Kenny from the crows nest is one of them. Kenny has been waiting
@morpheo4755 жыл бұрын
Nyx did appear in the game. After his death in Kingsglaive, he became a Psychomancer wandering insomnia. After the battle with Ifrit, you can back and get him to appear by killing all the daemons in the area. Killing him will drop his weapons.
@takerweapon17 жыл бұрын
Something tells me that they're not done the story just yet. They might make a sequel set in the afterlife.
@Ezio5037 жыл бұрын
Justin Alon thats a rumor said by the same guy who leaked the story 6 months prior to release. So be prepared dear noctis to show your true character , the hakf demon half human.
@takerweapon17 жыл бұрын
Kyzaia I am hoping to do just that. Let's just hope soon and not in another 10 years this time around.
@Game-slayer697 жыл бұрын
They said the ending of the game is up to the player. What ever you think happened happen. They want to leave it open to us. They have a lot of stuff they can do for prequels. Like Regis, Ardyn, Cor, heck they can even give us some stuff to fill that 10 year gap during when ardyn took over. There so much they can still do for this game to make it even more amazing than it already is!!!
@darkraioxxx7 жыл бұрын
Who is they and when did they say that? Because the ending isn't open up for anything. Noctis sacrifices himself goes to the afterlife with his wife. Everyone else lives a peaceful life in a new world without demons. That's it.
@Game-slayer697 жыл бұрын
Tabata came out and said there's no right or wrong answer on what you think happened at the end of the game. I agree with what you said happened at the end of the game but others might think differently. For instance when everyone was next noctis to do the final blow to ardyn. A lot of people think there all dead but I completely disagree. Or the fire scene after the credits. Some people think that is in the after life also. Once again though i disagree with that also because that scene is right before you make the assault on Lucis. Apparently they want to leave it to whatever you think as a player but to me its pretty clear what they where aiming for.
@avarycooney14997 жыл бұрын
Regarding why Noctis had to enter those tombs to get his ancestral weapons yet his father did not and still had his own set of ancestral weapons: There should be 112 tombs in total, I think Cor even confirmed that when Noctis asked how many tombs there would be. Knowing this, I think it's possible Noctis may be being drawn to tombs that his father simply wasn't, so Regis had a completely different set of weapons than Noctis has. Other idea is that maybe Regis' death sort of reset his weapons and they returned to their resting places for Noctis to find.
@icebergthegamer7 жыл бұрын
This story is much deeper than I ever thought. Thanks for all of these videos!
@liddleblink92817 жыл бұрын
That's a damn epic video Pes! Thank you :) Finally my Gentiana and Pryna queries are closed! :D Wiew! Pryna especially was bugging me for a while too - would've helped if I read this Ultimania stuff! Epic Omen Trailer connection/speculations you've mentioned there - Finally a more solid confirmation that that was it's purpose! Wiew. This game just got 100 times deeper, again! Things are connecting amazingly - Bloody love it. Pes this is huge, and damn awesome - My ever continuing excitement and love of this game just grew even more, again :P Great choice in music throughout this whole video too!
@FinalFantasyPeasant7 жыл бұрын
Eeeh thanks Keegan. I had to solve the riddle for you as your our team Gentiana :P That's my fave bit I think. How much it added to Gentiana's character. She made a real sacrifice and had her own identity. I suppose it goes to explain why she wasn't there in kingsglaive aswell. Gentiana grew up with Luna and likely had very close feeling for Luna. Shiva didn't have those. Pretty sad and profound. Does Luna know she lost her closest friend?
@liddleblink92817 жыл бұрын
Exactly Pes! It's so painful, but it's so damn strong. Does Luna know? At this point it could be that she would be aware - considering her strength and resolve she has as a character.. Some of it could be in her own understanding of what she herself is (a messenger) 'her calling fulfilled' she maaay have somehow been aware of Gentiana's situation too? If so, it's like a slow torture for Luna knowing of Gentiana's sacrifice and of her own soon to come, in another way... Uh :,( Or maybe she just didn't know, and we could just be more sad for the two of them..for Gentiana... No.. :'(
@Yotimbo77 жыл бұрын
Noctis translates for Shiva, just after she freezes Ifrit. We hear the wobbly voice thing and Prompto asks Noctis what she said, he replies "She told me to bring back the light." So wouldn't that make Noctis one of Shiva's messengers? :D
@fehrilariani7 жыл бұрын
Hey Peasant, I don´t think the main reason for killing Luna was to kill Shivas Messangers. I´m not sure if Ifrit or Ardyn himself wanted the World full of Daemons but by killing Luna they achieved this Goal. Luna was the only one who could prevent the world of Ruin by healing Humanity from the starscourge. So I think His (ifrit or Ardyn) Maingoal was to kill Luna to spread the starscourge.
@zoom0ut7 жыл бұрын
DUDE!!! I'm speechless after watching all 30min speculation. please don't stop, half more to go!
@Dukefazon7 жыл бұрын
You must be one clever guy to putting together all these clues. These videos blow me away. I wish some of these informations were IN the game though... That part where you explained the German version says "the day you... DIED" is quite scary. When did Shiva/Gentiana die? I'd like to see it on a timeline. Was this Ultimania book assembled before the story changes? It feels like the Ultimania lays out the story and the rest is for the development team to stuff into the game. But the story got many changes during development, yet the Ultimania still has the bits and bobs. At least those infos can fuel speculations and theory videos like this. Great job!
@behemothokun7 жыл бұрын
the official guide has the time line in it; it was 11 years prior to the game, so only recently in the game lore. And as someone who played the game in german (at least the subs; the dub kinda sucks) I can confirm the line. . . I was wondering why he didn't knew that earlier.
@5lythy7 жыл бұрын
man I love the way you tell things and explain. I had so many questions, you answered them all! Thank you!
@Crakincracka7 жыл бұрын
Dino for Titan (cause of precious rock obsession) Old lady who give you the dungeon seal key for Post game for Bahamut (because you learn after u finish all of them she tells Noct the he just finished a promise made by his father) Fishing quest guy for Leviathan (cause water related) Ariana for Ravatah (cause he throws his staff and she jumps up really high and throws her spear/lance) Its crazy how theory crafting for this game can actually be a full time job....needing 100s of hours of game play and 100s of hours of research.
@JazzEKeez6 жыл бұрын
I dont know if messangers necessairily have to know they are messangers, but if they dont... Gladiolus could be a messenger of Titan, thus giving more significance to the fact that he leads noctis through his encounter with Titan, and why he is shown to be able to block one of Titans blows. Ignis could be a messanger of Ramuh. Putting on the ring causes Ignis to go blind and Ramuh seems to be a judge or represent justice (his attack is judgement bolt). This may symbolise the idea of justice being blind. I tried to think of a way prompto could be a messanger as well but I couldn't
@RyanLeCocq7 жыл бұрын
Sorry I didn't have time to read over 600 comments to make sure this wasn't said already. I noticed some dialogue lines from Cor on my NG+ playthrough in the Tomb tutorial section. You were asking why Regis has weapons and if the tombs had been found. Cor mentions that no Lucian king in recent history has found ALL of the tombs. That would explain why Regis does not have 13 weapons in Brotherhood. In Kingsglaive he uses more than 13 though and can also apparently generate an unlimited amount simultaneously for the Kingsglaive. So short version, Cor implies that he himself came to those two previously with Regis, which is why he knows where they are. He also implies that their discovery had something to do with the battle. This line came up when Prompto mentioned the sandbags and supply crates piled up outside the first tomb. Cor says they discovered it by using it for shelter during the battle.
@guilhermegoes7117 жыл бұрын
Boy, I think that lich carrying the kukris of nyx is also a messenger of Ifrit, makes sense because Ifrit is sitting on the throne of Chaos yada yada yada ... I know some will say, "if he were a messenger, Ifrit would have come back to life from it, as it only appears after we kill Ifrit "but I do not think that the process of return to life from a messenger is instant, and perhaps even had a limit to this, remember It is known that they are becoming weaker every time that they "reincarnate" in a messenger .... more importantly, that lich, he was carrying the kukris of Nyx, WHY? There's something about that Lich, I'm sure of it. Why the hell it only appeared after Ifrit died? (I dunno, perhaps to avenge his master)... This can not be a coincidence guys, I'm Brazilian so sorry for the bad grammar.
@Sheria-vc1nm7 жыл бұрын
Amen, amen, amen :) Preach! Idk if the "24 messenger" idea will come to fruition, but the hit list on the Tenebrae family/Shiva is perfect ;) Ardyn is a BAMF! The dynamic btw Bahamut, Shiva and Ifrit makes sense, the other three are just kind of thrown in there :/ I hope they expand on the game's backstory with DLC, love to explore the time when Ardyn was the healer; I need to know who Izunia is!! lol
@N0rm267 жыл бұрын
Kind of blindsided me with this theory vid... I love it! This game clearly has hidden depths and I thank you for showing me things I would never see on my own. Heres hoping the dlc dives head first into the lore behind this epic story :D
@SpeurnLP7 жыл бұрын
Whenever you met Bahamut throughout the game, his eyes were shown a lot. He has the same eye-color as Cor and Noctis (noctis eye color changes later on when he becomes the king of light or temporarily when summons the gods) Same goes with Ifrit (orange eyes), Ardyn has orange eyes, "Anubis Pryna" in the omen trailer has orange eyes. So maybe that's got something to do with it?
@Zindril7 жыл бұрын
The only problem that i see with your theory about Astral projection into messengers bodies, and that's why Ifrit is smaller too, is that well, Titan, Ramuh and Leviathan are also killed (or so I think at least), yet they are all still gigantic. But really thrilling video overall, I enjoyed it. Aside from that inconsistency, I still believe your theory was spot on and that Ifrit is projected in a messenger's body, due to the burnt hand, but I still believe that size doesn't really matter unless the 3 previously mentioned Astrals haven't really died.
@evahane67137 жыл бұрын
I think Aranea might be one of messengers too. She was really powerful in terms of the battles and then, later in the game, she always appears for your aid as you need it. And she was kinda displeased to work with the empire but I think she was doing it to keep an eye on Ardyn from closeby.
@TheCyclicGamer7 жыл бұрын
Actually, 13 Swords landed in that Bahamut Scene, one was without audio however, specifically right behind Ifrit when he's about to deflect Bahamut's sword.
@Ryan.Lohman7 жыл бұрын
Woah....you just blew my mind. This makes me wonder if Noctis and Luna-Freya were both taken over at the end of the game just like Shiva took over Gentiana by the gods given the epilogue after the credits. I love this game with its plot holes! I really think they did this intentionally to immerse yourself in the characters and the world.
@duelverse84107 жыл бұрын
Also when the Crystal/Bahamut/lucii said that they were only looking forward to one more death there either referring to Noctis (The human sacrifice meant to get rid of the star scourge) or Ardyn (The stars scourge itself)
@chickenface5217 жыл бұрын
Nyx's corpse got taken over by ifrit right when he died and got turned into a messenger instead. Hence the burned arm and the same way he and the mini ifrit sits.
@ChaosCloud967 жыл бұрын
as always love the throes you present bud. The armiger weapons I think I may have a sort of explanation. I haven't counted or really looked into this but regis might nt have all the weapons, Noctis on the other hand HAD to get every weapon available, this was because bahamas stated that for Noctis to banish Arden once and for all he need the providence which was essentially all the crystals light, this is why he needed all the astrals, and the weapons because the astrals and the weapons were physical manifestations of the crystal and thus held light within them, so the fact that Not needed all the worlds light may be why he had to go collect them all compared to Regis who only needed a few for power and went to the easily accessible room
@aldriealmandrajat61747 жыл бұрын
well in Japanese language, before he gets frozen, Ardyn did say "You're still beautiful just like when you were killed." (literally)
@kyogerclawer27 жыл бұрын
Really cool theory, but lets face it, Nyx was never meant to be a messenger, they are long term type things, and he was just meant to be a outsider to the royal family who managed to win over the Lucii. I would instead put Regis up as a potential messenger, and here is why. The omen trailer showed 1 of 2 different things at the end. Regis either would be talking with Bahamut which would prove this, or he was talking with the Lucii, which would disprove this. I want to go back to Kingsglaive and check the tone/vo for the Lucii that speaks to nyx as that was probably the leader of them.
@MTGnEWbie4207 жыл бұрын
If you watch FFXV prologue audio drama , you see Cor was sent personally to help Noctis by Regis prior 1 day to their departure
@TearsofaLunarian7 жыл бұрын
I'm confused about the whole Luna's flesh failing thing. You say it's because she heals people, while others say it's because she cummonicates with the Archaeans. I'm sort of leaning on the latter, since we see in the game how just Noctis hearing Titan gives him a massive headache and how Noctis says "poor Luna" when he and the bros talk about how Luna has it much worse when she's awakening the Archaeans. Besides, I think Luna's been healing people from the Scourge since she was 16 (became an Oracle), so it'd be kinda strange for her to suddenly start feeling it. And I would imagine Sylva's been doing it as well and she was alive and kicking until Glauca gutted her.
@FinalFantasyPeasant7 жыл бұрын
true true! I think Luna communicating is doing that for sure and I jumble my logic incorrectly at that point. The main message there why Luna doesnt get starscourgey is she doesnt do it long enough to be corrupted like Ardyn. The healer of the scourge being an immortal was the reason Ardyn was created and its something they rectified by not letting the Fleurets live eternally
@TearsofaLunarian7 жыл бұрын
Final Fantasy Peasant Hmm, I don't think Ardyn and the Oracles method of healing is the same, though. Ardyn absorbed it (which is not what the Archaeans wanted, since they wanted to get rid of it and not have Ardyn carrying the Plague around like some sort of rat) while the Oracles actually remove it for good. This is just me speculating, but I get the idea that Ardyn did the 'healing' by the fastest/easiest route to get immediate results while in the cutscene with Luna, she says the healing will take few days after she has done her blessing.
@FinalFantasyPeasant7 жыл бұрын
The idea of starscourge being removed completely seems too perfect. Surely if the gods could give that type of ability to remove it completely they would have done. Perhaps the healing is still linked to Ardyn and as all the Fleurets heal it is still being funnelled to Ardyn. Or perhaps to the ring or crystal which is why Noctis' needed to be in the crystal realm to banish the scourge and Ardyn completely? It's a tricky one to decide but heres the deal. If the gods made Ardyn immortal, if they made messengers immortal. Why didnt they make a healer who could perma dispel scourge immortal? Surely they would?
@TearsofaLunarian7 жыл бұрын
Final Fantasy Peasant I thought the absorbed Plague was what made Ardyn immortal? You said Luna and Sylva are messengers, so the title doesn't automatically grant immortality.
@CaolianoDaVinci7 жыл бұрын
I really love this theory! It makes so much sense and I had never looked at it like this before
@WitcherDino6 жыл бұрын
I was expecting the one I read from reddit. Like Dino is Carbuncle (they look the same, and communicates via phone!), Wiz is the Fat Chocobo, Vyv is the Phoenix, etc etc.
@evilbob777 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting so much hard work into your videos, they are very entertaining to watch.
@darkpotatoe89587 жыл бұрын
Man your video is so mind blown! After watching, this sparks my guess on the possible messengers could be side quest related that lead/guide Noctis and team in various way: Titan - Dino, Dave ( retrieve dog tags fallen to Earth), Vyn ( taking ""Landscape"" pictures), The chocobo guy ( chocobo provides land transport) Ramuh - the lady from Lestallum power plant sidequest that ask u to fix stuff like the electric cable Leaviathan - the fisherman quest ( Pre-order bonus lure was even called "Leaviathan'"), the frog lady quests Bahamut - Ezma? ( locked up strong daemons & gave the keys to strong ruins which also give us the best end-game weapons) Just my 2-cents guess after watching your vid and can't remember these side quest character's name as I hardly touch them. Now i'm gonna go and complete those side quests =D Thanks for your vid and wonderful theory!!
@ChrisPTenders7 жыл бұрын
Noct and his late padre might be messengers of Titan. The headaches... Hillary Clinton 2.0 might be one of Leviathan. Talking to her felt like drowning in an ocean.
@blackdoge57547 жыл бұрын
thank you for filling the gap ffxv left for me :(
@blackdoge57547 жыл бұрын
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@aaronpagniano75977 жыл бұрын
I don't have access to my game at the moment to double check but I went through and counted a couple of weeks ago and I found that there are exactly 24 named, non-party characters who assign quests. Whether they are implied to be messengers or just part of Square Enix's regular obsession with mirrored numerology, I can't say. Regardless, great video. Love the theories.
@Iwanvanderwijk7 жыл бұрын
After this I wanted to play the ending again, so I did. Your suggestion that the Ifrit we saw was in fact a Messenger and that the "real" Ifrit got killed got me thinking. Now I know I have absolutley no insurrance that what I'm about to say is true and maybe someone else already drew this conclusion, but here we go: I noticed that before you summon Shiva durring the fight, she actually says something like: "The flame that ones burned bright and turned to ash needs to die again." This holds up to you saying we are actually fighting Ifrit in the body of a Messenger, just like Gentiana is now Shiva. So Ifrit ones died. Now here comes the real kicker: The lore in the game states that a king with "Powers Divine", one who could conjure glaives, ended the Starscourge and was given the Chrystal and ring as a reward. What if that king in fact ended the Starscourge by killing Ifrit!!! The Starscourge ended, but by taking host in the body of one of his messengers Ifrit prevented being wiped out completely, just like Shiva.
@HashbrownCloudyKai7 жыл бұрын
Have you considered Talcott's grandfather, Jared? I always found it weird that they specifically went for him instead of Iris. Why did they decide to kill him? I'm probably wrong but I would like to know why he was so important.
@daltonhays51567 жыл бұрын
I love this guy! I have never seen someone get so excited to talk about story lines lol
@OracleGrouse7 жыл бұрын
Amen. Bloody hell, I thought I had found a lot when I sent you my theories but you found even more xD
@OracleGrouse7 жыл бұрын
If Luna became a goddess, does that mean Noct and the bros are her Messengers according to the Genesis artwork?
@neoandroid85867 жыл бұрын
Great Video dude, your theories are always well thought out and backed up with evidence. An interesting video would be what is the driving force behind each summon, as Shiva loves humanity and wants to protect it whereas Ifrit wants total chaos and such. Makes you wonder what levithan, titan and ramuhs, etc true intentions were. Does feel sometimes that backstory on the summons/gods wasn't as fleshed out as they usually would be. In every Final Fantasy the summons backstory always explained even to the minor summon like Carby. But regardless Brill Video!
@makayladevine94394 жыл бұрын
AMEN, randomly stumbled across your videos and now I’m completely obsessed..... just need a video about why Promto is so damn special lmao
@Dargor16017 жыл бұрын
In the italian version Ardyn says "...il giorno in cui ti ucci[si]" wich translates into "...the day I killed you".
@bigtom89257 жыл бұрын
Completely makes sense that Ardyn is one of Ifrits messengers. I am officially one of the tin hat army. some hate that ffxv had so much unsaid and I am dying to know more about the world but I also like that we just saw everything from Noctis's perspective. I can't wait for the prompto dlc especially because it must shed light on Ravus and I also imagine Ardyn. I can see Ardyn mocking prompto while torturing him, letting secrets about the gods slip. Did prompto say anything when he saw Ifrit?
@LazarusXXXX7 жыл бұрын
14 swords land from Bahamut. from 18:30-18:33 you see another sword hit in the background by the lamppost after Ifrit does his flip. I couldn't hear the #4 off screen touch down, even in slow motion, but if it's there, then the total is 14
@Sasscupcake7 жыл бұрын
What if in the train scene Ardyn was actually talking to Gentiana? "The face you wore the day you died" as in the day Shiva took over her body.
@Davidc107 жыл бұрын
this video of yours just added so much more depth to the game for me, thank you.
@brianmorgan967 жыл бұрын
ardyn wasnt out to kill shiva. his task was revenge on the chosen king because he was refused by the crystal. ardyn didnt give a shit about ifrit
@junichiocena97707 жыл бұрын
I think Sania is a messenger of Leviathan because they were both kinda bitchy. [well, Sania is more annoying instead of bitchy like Leviathan] + Both kinda cause trouble for Noctis and the rest of the crew