FINALLY! A BIG ENGINE for the ES&DT! 4 Train operations is *awesome*. | Railroader Ep. 5

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[@BurnedBaconGaming]

I hate to say it but on the server I play on, we managed to push the safety rating all the the way down to 9%. It's currently hovering in the 20s.

[@Hyce777]

man after my own heart

[@kinotheidiot]

You my friend are a legend

[@michaelasbury7121]

​@@Hyce777 New goal?

[@PowerTrain611]

I made it to 0%. My company's reputation is in the dirt with everything else.

[@marvin95]

​@@PowerTrain611😂 how did you do that? Burn the whole map to the ashes or what? 😂

[@blendpinexus1416]

Safe? THIS IS THE ES&DT! "Uphill slow downhill fast, tonnage first safety LAST" Safety isn't even in our vocabulary. whatever that safety officer says WE IGNORE!

[@BandanRRChannel]

Awwww...(goes to return the pitchfork I borrowed) To be fair, the source engine did operate in Oregon for a while, as Oregon Pacific & Eastern 19. During this time is when it became known as "Shack's Train". So you technically didn't get the wrong state, even if it lived in California most of the time. But I really would like to see a good model of SVRy 19 in a train game sometime...hint hint. 😜

[@Spanderson99]

This is where the game really opens up. At this point, I have a switch engine in each yard, and a road freight that sets out all the cars. I’ve made it up to the mines past Bryson, so my eastbounds are now running 2500+tons loaded with ore and coal. Get a c-55 consolidation as soon as you can, it’s the only road engine you’ll need until you hit red marble! For my logs, I’ve given up switching, and I use 2 fixed sets, each with a mogul and 11 cars. At the start of my day, I’ve got 3 or 4 AI trains heading out of Whitter, and it look’s magnificent!

[@juphikie3559]

Solid idea, however, this is the ES&DT, so we can expect him not to do any of that

[@chrisgill7824]

The C-55 is a beast. I pull 1,700 tons daily with it. It doesn't care as long as it has water.

[@FSTM4003]

Iliteryaly spent 5 bays grinding just to get the Berkshire. for anyone wondering, it is numbered 2512

[@wuestenfuchs1422]

Getting to that coal mine really makes things interesting. I'm currently running my first double header out of Bryson towards Sylva. 46 cars / 2580 tons including locomotives. It's quite the step up from day 1.

[@ODSTGeneralYT]

I have been taking my sweet time expanding. Still in Bryson, but I am working towards more or less the same thing. One dedicated passenger line just running back and forth from Whittier to Bryson. 2 engine just alternating logging deliveries, one engine running freight wherever needed, and I just picked up another then wheeler to just shunt stuff as needed.

[@CaptainS0305]

Also Hyce you don't appear to believe in "Slow is smooth and smooth is fast"

[@Hyce777]

Not when we've got places to be! :P

[@railroadactive]

Hyce: complains about how unrealistic the locos and controls are. Also Hyce: Runs whack mixed train consists No cabooses Excessive tender first running But hey, this is the ES&DT and im all for it!

[@Hyce777]

I am not incentivized to play "correctly" in any way so why should I

[@railroadactive]

@@Hyce777 Like i said, I'm all for it! However, it would be nice to have some bonuses added to the gameplay to make the more "realistic" way of doing things worthwhile

[@BurnedBaconGaming]

On what you mentioned of the 2nd Obs car, basically the game runs a check to see if anything was coupled to the rear of the couch. If something has, it loses the bonus for passengers on board. You used to could run a locomotive connected to the obs car, decouple, then brake the engine-less train at the station and still get the bonus, but to my knowledge that was patched out. You can still double end ob car to prevent needing to Y the whole train, but you will only get the one bonus from the car on the rear.

[@Hyce777]

Guess we'll find out!

[@inaoifeble]

run the locomotive in the middle of the train with observation cars on either end

[@Hyce777]

@@inaoifeble oh snap

[@Railman1225]

36:14 My face immediately lit up as soon as I heard that cymbal. *_I knew that some poor locomotive was about to eat dirt..._*

[@Railman1225]

Welp, turned out it was only her tender, as well as a boxcar, _and it wasn't even on screen..._ let's hope the Derail Valley episode coming out tomorrow goes well in either way that could be taken.

[@garysprandel1817]

Play Paperboy back in the misspent youth of my early 20s in the arcades. Hear Hyce refer to Paperboy as that ancient video game. Crumble to dust in my recliner. 🙂

[@Hyce777]

Sorry my friend, feels like ancient history to me too :D

[@garysprandel1817]

@Hyce777 not a problem I'm good with being the crusty old fart.🙂

[@TheEpicDragonCat]

Kicking Fist, Dutch Dropping Second, Safety Third!!

[@cswvna]

Accounts hung up, overdrawn and quartered.

[@billyrueckert5113]

They have a HONKIN Consolidation, too. I'm at a loss for what to get next. I want to be able to do big coal trains and not sure what to do next. Side note, starting the video laughing at your increased safety rating has made my day.

[@brillbusbootcamp2320]

Sheesh man, I look away to pet the cat for mere seconds, and I look back to see the saw-by of the century! You never lear-, I mean, you never cease to entertain, do you? 😝

[@thorswrath9151]

Start increasing the contract tiers, alot more freight starts

[@andrewreynolds4949]

We use those new-fangled brakes at my local museum, but aside from tying down the entire train we also use chocks overnight. I think that comes from an over abundance of caution rather than actually being worried about the brakes not holding You should check your contracts to see if you can increase any, particularly in Bryson. That should net you more traffic

[@CristiNeagu]

It's always funny to see people that do very safety oriented jobs in real life, like airplane pilots or train conductors and whatnot, start up a sim and then act like complete menaces.

[@Enjoy_my_1st_Amendment]

I just wanted to say I enjoy all your content. Especially when you all are sitting around the steamers in the shop shooting the shit. Particularly enjoy putting you guys on and listening while I'm playing DV or RO. Dont really have anyone to co-op the railroad games so listening to you all shoot the bull while playing is rather enjoyable while I'm slogging up a grade. Anyway keep up the content as its always a good listen.

[@dominicfrizzi2563]

Rule one of the ES&DT handbook, NEVER close the water hatch

[@Hyce777]

it's just extra work, mkay

[@TheMostUt]

What happens when you mix yellow and brown? Let's find out shall we? I think if they made most of the major menu items as hotbar items across the top of the screen, they would be trucking pretty good there. Then add options for the hotbars to allow users to 'always visible', 'visible when mouse in region', or 'always hidden'. Similar to Windows taskbar would work pretty well. They should also have a few basic hotbar buttons: 'accounting', 'track management', 'motion management', 'contracts', etc. All of those with filters for the data, something like: 'active/inactive', 'moving/stationary', 'available/unavailable', 'paid/awaiting payment', things of that nature.

[@Hyce777]

Agreed!

[@andrewframe8046]

I've seen the 19 wearing a Santa Fe 6..... So the Huber would be extremely appropriate for that engine.

[@Hyce777]

Oh, well then...

[@holzkopp6195]

the railroad that i have with my friends is completley locked to tier 1 contracts because we absolutley cannot get our saftey above 20%

[@Hyce777]

F

[@MatNichols-iz9dy]

I think that you should dedicate a locomotive to the logging at some point

[@Keystonecole]

I have also found the AI in this game will not tell you I'm stuck on the main because I ran out of coal and or water. As far as the leaving locomotives costing if you have it selected and want to jump to it's fallow cam or adjust it's orders you can Left click the engine number board on the lower left and it will open the engine window

[@nittygrittygarage5497]

Smokey and the Bandit is 100% the greatest movie of all time, just don’t think about 2 (3 doesn’t exist to me, don’t tell me it does)

[@Dallen9]

S&B3 exists on the same plain as Ghostbusters 3 only it's more official than Ghostbusters 3 was.

[@mechgt5]

I have been conditioned to say "oh no" every time i hear a cymbal in your videos

[@AuraKnightTheLucario]

i did find a way using commamd console to swap around tenders. in doing so however i discovered, when you remove a trains tender that train seems to have unlimited consumables.

[@musiqtee]

I don’t know the ins & outs, but *humbly* wish to see you and kAn get security down to like 2% together… 🙂

[@hughmungas5462]

I get so excited everytime I see a railroader video. I feel like the safety rating will go down once Kan comes to join in on a few sessions

[@savannahhirano]

The daily schedule for my railroad is a bit unique. The morning starts with the daily logging train coming down from Connelly and bringing pulpwood and log cars down to Whittier. While that train makes its way down, the daily mixed train picks up everything at the interchange at Sylva, stops at Sylva to load passengers, then dillsboro to load passengers and have the freight organized for drop offs. Freight going eastbound to dillsboro and Sylva await the switcher coming from the paperboard that drops off the empty pulpwood cars for the westbound mixed train to take to Whittier. Mixed freight continues westbound making drops along the way to Bryson. That train disconnects from the remaining freight and drops the passenger cars at the station at Bryson and then services while the switcher at Bryson builds the train for the eastbound mixed train back to the interchange… and the cycle repeats in reverse.

[@3900Class]

They could really use a USRA 2-8-2 for the mid sized freight hauler instead of just the logging mike.

[@Hyce777]

Agreed.

[@GrantRacer88]

"There ain't no way, you came from my loins" 😂

[@larag4646]

Last night, I learned not to switch rails at 40mph.

[@cjane1422]

If you bump up the industries around Bryson to Tier 5 when you can, it will get more freight for more switching and make the trip more worth it.

[@Hyce777]

Thank you for the tip, my friend :D yeah I think I only have up to tier 3 unlocked at the moment.

[@NullReference119]

Do not apologize for being sick, it happens. Get better! Remember to take breaks for mental health too.

[@joshschultheis1731]

Ah yes, “not har enough.” That reminds me of when I told my friends about my “Canaking” (canoeing/kayaking) trip.

[@JohannTrains]

Hyce, just wanted to suggest that even if you dont get a bonus from putting an observation car on both ends, that way u can still get the default bonus if u run the engine around

[@Sporkmeister]

I really look forward to some sound improvements in the game. Otherwise it has been a fantastic way to relax.

[@retr0bits545]

Hyce, can you work your magic as I have heard Boston and Maine 1127 SW1 is going to be scrapped starting Monday January 22 of 2024. There is a go-fund me available.

[@Hyce777]

We have posted it on the Discord - here's hoping it gets taken care of!

[@retr0bits545]

@@Hyce777 unfortunately I don’t have the discord server on my list so this was the only way I could mention it.

[@robertbalazslorincz8218]

alright Hyce, now, buy JUST K-35s and do some Mikadoisms some guy once had an idea to paint a train yellow and call it "The Piss Streak" ? no offense, just remembering someone in iirc the Railroader Discord?

[@dendress2]

The AI can auto-couple if set to yard mode and it's around 10 car lengths away. Just click 20 and the AI will couple and even slow to less than 3mph right before it couples. Useful when managing multiple locos.

[@theromanorder]

Please do a video on this kzbin.infoUgkxCPUbFX5AKUq2o2V2XH92EkfZUXxeRQOB how to fight oponits of different sizes to you how would you fight in inclosed space like a ship or a house And one on if a morning star turned into a flail.. If 2 bladed sword had 1 blade (same handle how dose it change fighting) and a baionet for a crossbow, mabey it could dig like a shovel if you put it on the foot rest or mabey dress in a traditional lady's dress and see how restricted it is in combat... how to fight in cramped quqters like a house or a ship (see how combat changes) one on paudrines (sorry for spelling) how would combat be effected by water? (like fighting in or under water) some videos on Egyptian wepons or Babylon, persan, sumerion, ect from pre hellenistic, mabey even Korean wepons, or wepons from Thailand, veitnam, a some Chinese, Australia, Pacific countries (including aotroa) (please learn the pronounceations)

[@Dannyedelman4231]

Mccloud river railroad then Yreka Western Railroad Company and finally Oregon and pacific

[@madalheidis]

I was wondering why this video started with a skip over compared to the previous - Ep 4 and Ep 5 are the wrong way around in the playlist!

[@apenasgargorio]

hyce isn't your 6 chime technically an ES&D 6 chime? :thinking:

[@737Garrus]

It's so unsatisfying when Smells Like Kenosha is heard, only for the song to climax into nothing, and only then is the camera moved to an _aftermath._ This is why I love Derail Valley more than Railroader.

[@jimbruneau6769]

At 28:50 break out your poling pole. Not any more unsafe than Dutch drops...

[@VirgotheDrusky]

So happy that you decided to use my double obs idea!

[@blendpinexus1416]

double obs? so having obs both stream to discord and saving the video?

[@Jay-kc2pm]

​@@blendpinexus1416I think obs is a shorthand for observation car

[@blendpinexus1416]

@@Jay-kc2pm yeah, hindsight makes so much more sense.

[@michaelmasi5220]

Stop jumping between trains. That's how you ruin your engines and rolling stock

[@mtfgamma6257]

I just got the Consolidation...and boy does that extra driver make a difference.

[@WhirligigGirl]

When i was playing Railroader on my laggy laptop I almost exclusively played like you've been doing, in third person like it's a model railroad. (As much as I wanted it to be like Derail Valley.) BUT. I will say first person as the conductor is actually pretty fun and worth a try. I do it while i'm blocking out the whittier yard (I dont have sylva yet)

[@KatyPacific382]

Best bit of advice for working on this locomotive, watch out for *"The Shack"* 😉😉

[@conductorzen671]

This was quite a fun episode to watch at 1 in the morning, but uh... Dear god, the debt you've gained.

[@kennethmaynard5046]

Hyce call the yellow passenger train "The Yellow Submarine"

[@3ftsteamrwy12]

The yellow coaches remind me of the "Hello DOlly" trainset that Strasburg had from the early 1970's to around 1990 or so. The new 2-8-2 reminds me of the Yreka Western/ O.P.& E. #19 featured in Emperor of the North Pole.

[@3ftsteamrwy12]

P.S. Will they allow poling in the future?

[@train0996]

I have a big pacific on my railroad, and it is kind of a meme (because it’s numbered 6325 and has a GTW Whistle on it)

[@christine2285]

Hey you good hyce, you sound sick rn. Anyways BEANS AND SPEED

[@mikehandteDG]

I started drinking Coors because of Smokey and The Bandit

[@DL541]

At some lighted and gated crossings, we are not allowed to accelerate more than 5MPH of the speed we are going when we hit the shunt. Otherwise, it throws off the timing of the crossing warning.

[@wilfstor3078]

I am getting a serious Polar Express vibe from the vestibules of that first coach, can anyone confirm if that coach prototype is in fact the basis of the coaches in the film?

[@theradialtank212]

Holy shucks it’s Oregon Pacific in Eastern No 19

[@Dallen9]

Smokey and the Bandit is such a good movie it's considered a Documentary of the Time. Even though when the movie was made CB radio's weren't really a thing the popularity made everyone put them in their rigs and work/joyride vehicles almost over night.

[@DinsdalePiranha67]

It also helped Pontiac post one of its best sales years in the make's history.

[@RexAnger.]

Emprah of De Norf shenanigans intensify... (I love mine, too 🙂 )

[@mercury7590]

How did you name the number 4? I haven’t seen any way to do that, then again I’m still a novice at this game. Great video!

[@ryanduffy-rd3kx]

I love the first and second Smokey and the Bandit.

[@DinsdalePiranha67]

When you mentioned the name of your crew, in my head I heard it in the same cadence as "Beer Drinkers and Hell Raisers".

[@KyleTheGamer574]

I hate to ask but... Is this game available on Xbox. Most likely no...

[@Hiei2k7]

Ah yes. CNW safety yellow passenger cars. Glow in the dark probably.

[@HoofmanJones030397]

Uh oh! Someone squashed the No. 4's tender!

[@huntergilmore4193]

Set the brake to low physics and you can drag through them

[@rickchapman9232]

I just spotted an apt called slingshot railroad. Have you seen it?

[@erikunderbar4265]

We all want you to continue your work and we love you dearly

[@1TruNub]

Uphill slow, down hill fast. Tonnage first, safety last

[@_Zdex007]

Episode 4 and 5 are inverted in the playlist.

[@Elliottblancher]

49% safety eh, ROOKIEE NUMBERS!!!

[@DarkEclipse223]

You should have painted the passenger carriages poop brown

[@WingsNFries]

Hi Hyce do you know if this game will ever be console

[@jamesTBurke]

You summoned me? My nickname IS bandit

[@gametech30]

When are you gonna post Tom Gillens layout tour

[@gman-ul7um]

Do you think and Kan will do series together

[@ajwffc]

i thought my 7% safety rating was good

[@PowerTrain611]

Omg, I remember playing Paperboy on the NES as a kid. It was infuriatingly hard, I used to rage hardcore. Those damn dogs! Kids these days think FPS Multiplayer shooters like COD are games that make you rage. Those people don't understand the pain of not being able to save your game and having to leave your console on for hours/days to not lose all your efforts.

[@Hyce777]

Today's kids did not know the pain that was the difficulty of games that were on the NES and SNES. Lol

[@Austriantrainguy]

and we are always playing by schedule

[@GlennHolland]

I’m out here! Thanks for the shoutout ❤

[@peterlewis6886]

From one railroader to another, love your videos, man! If you see this, as someone from nearby, two more pronunciations should you choose to indulge: CO-wee and nant-uh-HAY-luh.

[@Hyce777]

Interesting! Thanks for letting me know mate. Cheers!

[@robertcooper6853]

Ah, yes…….the “choo choo” guy. SMH

[@AllisonChainz3718]

23:50 It's all fun and games watching the AI be a dumb-ass with stopping, until they manage to blow through all of their water (or even coal if its bad enough) rolling back and forth on a hill trying to stop for a fusee. This has happened to me on more than one occasion, usually with my passenger train trying to stop at Cochran station, though any stop with a hill could be susceptible to this. Adam pls fix.

[@Hyce777]

That is annoying.

[@huntergilmore4193]

Use the r key and you can see what they all do

[@Railman1225]

Sorry to ruin the big new choo-choo for ya, Hyce. But it turns out she's a hybrid between a Southern Ps-4 and an Erie K5, which is...why?

[@Hyce777]

Oh it's awful... I'm aware.

[@vega1287]

Idk why but i feel like it would be funnyer to call the crew the "Dumb Idiot Car Kickers" allthough idk if the acronym is apropriate.

[@Hyce777]

lmao

[@XBGTCOUPE]

can you do a jules verne time train

[@hariharan5771]

I was literally thinking where is the railroader video for this week and just checked. Wow so lucky:)😊

[@LehrerFamilyWest]

A lot of mike ado,bout nuthin

[@PennsyPappas]

Hyce: The models are flawed, theslund isnt great, the tutorial is confusing or lack luster, and the trains operate like Lionel Train Town. Us: But did you have fun with the operations side of this game? Hyce: Youre gosh darn right i did, it's so addictingly fun. For a game thats still being developed im having so much fun with it, plus its relaxing unlike some games that can be super stressful to play.

[@Hyce777]

Agreed.

[@ajfahlin]

stash the player in a box car

[@PortableHermit]

Well, that was a strange experience... I'm laying here, half asleep, watching while I wake up and only half paying attention and suddenly Hyce is addressing me by name, and talking about slaying me!? 😂 Micah is a rather unusual first name, so when I hear it I always assume someone is talking specifically about me. I'm sure that would be a bit different if I was named something like Dave or John, etc. Anyway, just got thought that was fun and wanted to let you know that yes, Micah is watching. 😂

[@hjmiller2689]

Thank you Hyce for considering the double ended observation train! Also, I'm still waiting for the large derailment that drops the ES&DT's safety ratings to negative digits!

[@musiqtee]

Good enough, Hyce. Security at 49% means everything is just fine, glass is half full, right? 😅 Three-tone honk from 🇳🇴…!

[@topgunfurry]

Have I heard of the pacific Coast Railroad at the Santa Margarita Ranch in California? they acquired some D-N&R-G Equipment along with a Rail bus from the Durango & Silverton & some box cars from there as well.

[@SDE1994]

K-37 at CRM: PHENOMINAL COSMIC POWER, itty bitty living space

[@warmstrong5612]

I wonder if you had enough coaches that the train spanned the entire length of the map, would the passengers just teleport to their destination?

[@Hyce777]

That's a fun idea...

[@IdahoRailfan]

Yay! At least the N⁰19 is running in some form! -a SVRR volunteer

[@TheDemocrab]

When you unlock Bryson you also unlock a new project to rebuild the bridge near the Standard Oil siding which starts making it busier, culminating in a second interchange on the East side of the railway.