FINALLY a Budget Golf Launch Monitor with NO SUBSCRIPTION Fees?!

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Golficity

Golficity

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@topgunbass
@topgunbass 3 ай бұрын
These monitors are going in the right direction. No fees. Rapsodo better wake up with the ridiculous fees charging among others also. These smaller companies are showing acuracy can be had at a much more affordable price.
@JustMeAP1
@JustMeAP1 3 ай бұрын
Fees here are $10 for 24 games. I play a little more than that (outside cage) per month (with friends) at $10 for Garmin Home Tee Hero but I get 42,000 maps, not a dozen. Bottom line: the title is a click bait lie. Garmin R10 is still king.
@johnrusso3709
@johnrusso3709 3 ай бұрын
Can't waggle with Garmin..​@@JustMeAP1
@TheswedishDane
@TheswedishDane 3 ай бұрын
The 199 for a mediocre software on rapsodo is really hard to swallow, not once did I play any simulation on it, only practice mode and a few range sessions, but even that is not worth the steep price
@topgunbass
@topgunbass 3 ай бұрын
@TheswedishDane ill admit if the mlm2 had no subscription I probably would have bought it. But then again the repeated videos and posts on the connection drops and miss read has me thinking I would have made a mistake.
@JustMeAP1
@JustMeAP1 3 ай бұрын
@@TheswedishDane Are you still using only the $199 "mediocre" solution, or have you found something better?
@scottintexas
@scottintexas 3 ай бұрын
I always appreciate it when I’m able to park my 150’ yacht next to my private driving range! Thumbs up for that.
@justinhilimire5156
@justinhilimire5156 Ай бұрын
Wow you must be rich
@homecourse6154
@homecourse6154 3 ай бұрын
Mine arrived late last week, so easy to set up, courses look great and the data seems accurate, what's not to love at this $$$$$$$
@JustMeAP1
@JustMeAP1 3 ай бұрын
@@homecourse6154 First of all, this unit cannot be used outside. Not at the driving range, on a course, or in a backyard cage. That is better. Then, the Garmin is $300 less. That is also better. Lots better. For $300, I bought Awesome, not available with this unit, which does have fees. Around $160 a year in fees. No thanks. This unit has no fees only if you do not use it. True for any launch monitor.
@unclejohn37
@unclejohn37 3 ай бұрын
All these LM companies have to truly consider making units that are LEFT/Right hitter friendly! Best part of Sim golf is having friends over and its such a pain to move a LM to lefties then back to righties. That is why I bought a Rapsoto. If I ever upgrade it will be too a ceiling mounted unit.
@anthonybarnes5555
@anthonybarnes5555 3 ай бұрын
Optishot nova is down the line, sits behind you but no reviews which is worrying. Cost 1,700
@armsr01m
@armsr01m 3 ай бұрын
I bought it. It's coming to me now. I will test it and let you guys know it's performance. Especially for the side spin. Someone says infrared can make interference. It might affect the side spin result. He said, it worked well alone but it showed sometimes weird side spins being tested with other launch monitor. I don't like subscription. I want to play game sometimes for fun...but not many. I am a Skytrak user. I was considering buying Eye Mini light but I've found this video.
@armsr01m
@armsr01m 3 ай бұрын
I've tested it for one hour. The sensor and device itself are very good as the price. No problem at side spin reading. No delay unlike Skytrak. No unknown failure in reading shot. I can't expect more at that price. I like the credit policy because I will play games just several times a month. I can't pay a lot of money for it. If you need, You can make your own marking balls, but I purchased 9 more marking balls. It doesn't matter. but, the software is still not great. It has some problems, we can expect updates though. Some heavy game users might like year based subscription policy, but I am not that kind of person. I test it indoor. But if you avoid direct sunlight, I think it could work well. I hope so. I think the manufacturer is so bad at marketing. I've never seen any advertisement or something before except this video. I don't need Eye Mini anymore. This device is enough for me. Good price. But they have to upgrade the software.
@eBurstMedia
@eBurstMedia 3 ай бұрын
​@@armsr01m What kind of problems does the software have?
@armsr01m
@armsr01m 3 ай бұрын
@@eBurstMedia Simple question but it needs long answer. So, I will raise just one example. Driving range. It has 2 modes. One is Graphic mode, the other is Data mode. Yon can't see any club data at Graphic mode. You know, Attack angle, face angle...etc. If you want to see those data, you have to go to Data mode. But you can't go without closing the Driving Range. You can move to Data mode absolutely after closing Graphic mode. But when you close the driving range, the data's gone because you closed it. In other word, When you hit one shot at Graphic mode and you want to see the club data for the shot, You can NOT see it. Data mode doesn't show any Ball flying path graphically. Only numbers there. Not easy to figure out your shot was good or not. Slice, Draw, Hook....no idea. Only numbers. But you can't transfer it to Graphic mode directly. You have to close the session. And the shot data's gone. So, you can't see the graphical ball flight. Just one example. But it couldn't be not big deal. I checked my attack angle and club path already. I got some feeling, so I don't need Data mode that much. I don't know they will upgrade the software though, The device is working well now. Better than OG skytrak.
@JustMeAP1
@JustMeAP1 3 ай бұрын
@@armsr01m Why spend $1,075 on this if you have a Skytrak? And why not spend less than HALF on a Garmin?
@armsr01m
@armsr01m 3 ай бұрын
@@JustMeAP1 I didn't spend $1,075. I spent only below $600. Skytrak has some failure in reading shots. Many times. And...I can't play even one 18-hole game without subscription. And...I wanted to see the club data of my swing. Because of space issue, I can't use Radar Sensor Launch monitor. I need camera sensor only. I was searching some info about Eye Mini and then found out this device. I was too curious to skip it and it was cheap.
@10KenHall
@10KenHall 3 ай бұрын
This is a step in the right direction, the pay as you go is a fraction of what the others charge. There’s a lot of market out there for whoever comes up with an affordable accurate monitor without ripping us of with subscription fees
@homecourse6154
@homecourse6154 3 ай бұрын
This is honestly it, you get 55 rounds free then its only $20 for another 55 rounds, that's .36c per round!
@adamjb8165
@adamjb8165 3 ай бұрын
I’m not sure that having these LM’s next to each other allows either to get correct readings. The GC3 uses IR flashers/strobe lights as part of its camera system, and it looks like the square might as well. These could interfere with each other and lead to incorrect readings.
@ZnOxide
@ZnOxide 3 ай бұрын
You’re right. Camera-based devices interfere with each other. When I tested it with TrackMan after buying it, the result was perfect, but there was a spin error with QED n GC quad. Maybe golfcity didn’t know that.
@KyleW0806
@KyleW0806 3 ай бұрын
Keep these simulator devices & setups coming!
@martindouglas6538
@martindouglas6538 17 күн бұрын
Just a quick note on your previous test of the SQUARE: It seems that it shouldn't be tested next to other optical monitors; it's susceptible and does suffer from interference.
@solson223
@solson223 Ай бұрын
Comparatively to other machines in the same class, this seems amazing for the price. I've almost bought several units over the past year that ranged up to $4K, but I always stopped myself because I'm a casual player these days that doesn't practice all the time. Having a side unit (rather than 6-8 feet behind you) that's pretty accurate, even if not as good as the GC, that I may have to shell out $20 every once in a blue moon in place of a subscription, hits the spot for me. $699 and it's small an compact, no subscriptions. Yes please! Thanks for the review.
@robertbeato2795
@robertbeato2795 3 ай бұрын
Square you can have it shown on the projector screen yeah? Building an outdoor enclosed sim, undecided on which monitor. I like this since it can be next to you vs behind
@Golf101inc
@Golf101inc 3 ай бұрын
Wonder if TP5 pix would produce similar results to the provided sleeve of marked balls...
@GibbsLD395
@GibbsLD395 Ай бұрын
Love to know accuracy due to higher ball/club speeds. Some of the cheaper units aren't as accurate the higher you go in speed
@bowl816
@bowl816 3 ай бұрын
If they could get this on par with Skytak, I would buy it now. The Skytrak+ course play looks great!
@richardjacobs7632
@richardjacobs7632 2 күн бұрын
I’m just looking for something to play indoor golf in the winter fro fun!
@MickeyintheMiddle
@MickeyintheMiddle 2 ай бұрын
Pay-as-you-go is so much better than a subscription. If I go out of town or in the hospital for six months, why would I wanna keep paying a subscription to not play golf? I will pay for the game, let me pay for and download the individual courses one time, then leave me alone! How hard is that?
@timpoos4635
@timpoos4635 3 ай бұрын
One day some company will make an affordable camera based launch monitor that can be bought outright, with no subscriptions or fees to use it, with great 3rd party integration and they will make a lot of money
@jaccokooijman7566
@jaccokooijman7566 Ай бұрын
The problem is they can make more if they add a subscription model and who doesn't want more money?
@JamesGrant-u2m
@JamesGrant-u2m Ай бұрын
Can we please get a video showing the different readings with regular balls or range balls? I think a lot of people on the range want some measurements using regular balls. Thank you guys.
@matthewraney3495
@matthewraney3495 3 ай бұрын
Looks like a great product, but I guess it wouldn’t really work at the range bc of the special golf balls needed ? Or am I missing something?
@stevenm2311
@stevenm2311 3 ай бұрын
Did you try this outside with a net? Curious if it’s any less accurate in the bright sunlight.
@cppxj
@cppxj 3 ай бұрын
Interesting on their site its notes " Indoor use only (do not position in direct sunlight)"
@ElVerdeVida
@ElVerdeVida 3 ай бұрын
Looks very very promising. Hope now i can sell my skytrak to get this
@frankieliles3652
@frankieliles3652 3 ай бұрын
My question is how will it work outside. I mainly use an outside driving range so I wonder how accurate it would be.
@MrRiusxx
@MrRiusxx 3 ай бұрын
Me too
@jeremieb.8694
@jeremieb.8694 3 ай бұрын
Website says DO NOT use in direct sunlight 🤷🏻
@frankieliles3652
@frankieliles3652 3 ай бұрын
@@jeremieb.8694 thanks
@Mattcarr3
@Mattcarr3 3 ай бұрын
Wasn’t Rapsodo completely inaccurate when it came out? I’m assuming they’ll be fine tuning accuracy over time just like they did with Rapsodo. Also, the fact that it sits to the side is a huge selling point. None of the other units in this price range do that. They are all behind. These guys will definitely control this part of the market if they can get this right.
@JustMeAP1
@JustMeAP1 3 ай бұрын
Is sitting to the side a huge selling point? Easier to hit. Lying about fees (the title is a click bait lie) and using expensive balls you can't replace is NOT a good way to get started.
@bowl816
@bowl816 3 ай бұрын
@@JustMeAP1the title doesn’t say no fees, it says no subscription fees. A big difference. Subscriptions you pay regularly, annual or some other way. But you pay whether you use it or not. This company/unit charges for simulation games in their system, not a subscription and at a cost of less than 20 cents a round, again a consumable, not a subscription. This on top of an under $700 unit that sits to the side versus behind the golfer, which is a huge advantage if tou don’t have 20’ of space length.
@Mattcarr3
@Mattcarr3 3 ай бұрын
@@bowl816was thinking the same thing. The subscription for other monitors is also for some of the data. This is literally for only the courses. I would say that’s more of an add on than a necessity anyway.
@Mattcarr3
@Mattcarr3 3 ай бұрын
@@JustMeAP1yes, sitting to the side is a huge selling point to someone who doesn’t have the space behind.
@JokeZ1337
@JokeZ1337 3 ай бұрын
Expensive balls you can't replace? The camera just uses these points as reference for how fast the ball is spinning, you can paint them onto a proV1 if you want or use a taylormade pix ball.
@OMG-2
@OMG-2 3 ай бұрын
Guys this was a good review as far as it went. You did say iOS but which devices? iPhone, IPad, MacOS - these apps can run on all of those if the developer allows it. Would have like to seen you compare putting between the two monitors as well. That seems like a real selling point for the Square if it is accurate. Also wish you had shown the data tile screen during some of the shots, if a GSPro third party connector is going to be made for it, it will likely require that screen to grab the data. If I did not already buy a photo metric unit due to space limitations this would have been on a short list of ones to try. It may not be accurate enough for a club fitter but is is good enough to provide a fun way to practice and play some golf without maxing out the credit card.
@justinstephenson9360
@justinstephenson9360 3 ай бұрын
I will call this a good start, maybe even a very good start. It needs a bit of fine tuning but that is true from just about every budget launch monitor when they first launched. What needs to be clearer is which data points are measured and which are calculated. They also need to add club head speed as a data point but on a measured rather than calculated basis. For the price I am impressed
@jbwise2002
@jbwise2002 3 ай бұрын
I dont mind the pay as you go model
@JustMeAP1
@JustMeAP1 3 ай бұрын
Fees are $10 for 24 games. I play a little more than that (outside cage) per month (with friends) at $10 for Garmin Home Tee Hero but I get 42,000 maps, not a dozen. Bottom line: the title is a click bait lie. Garmin R10 is still king.
@bowl816
@bowl816 3 ай бұрын
I agree, I prefer a pay as you go and would like more choices though. I think it’s great I can fit where many of launch monitors won’t. Like when your space doesn’t have the depth.
@JustMeAP1
@JustMeAP1 3 ай бұрын
@@bowl816 ​ If I own this for ten years, a $120 annual fee/subscription is $1,200. I paid $300 for Awesome Life (which is $15 a month or $1,800 over a decade, or SIX TIMES MORE). I prefer cheaper. But that's just me. LOL
@jefflop
@jefflop 9 күн бұрын
Have you set up two identical expensive launchpads to see the variances between identical machines?
@qdub2012
@qdub2012 3 ай бұрын
The way I see it is I can play 18 holes in under 45 minutes so I’d play 2-3 rounds 3-4 times a week so I would be spending $20 about every 6 weeks which is around $200 a year. So the MLM2 pro seems more reasonable factoring in what more you get out of it and closer to accuracy and versatility with indoor and outdoor use
@DanielMuvdi
@DanielMuvdi 2 ай бұрын
Use the square for free with GSpro that is 1000% better than MLM2 software and only pay for the GSpro year suscription.
@qdub2012
@qdub2012 Ай бұрын
@ how much is gspro and don’t you need a gaming spec pc?
@jvon0311
@jvon0311 3 ай бұрын
Funny reading the comments…”I’m done after the underhanded fee”… did you all hear what they said? 55 rounds that’s a lot of indoor golf and not sure about you but if Im playing a “round”… it’s at a course. These devices are driving ranger replacements (you make up that cost where I’m at after 46 trips to the range - 4-5 months of range time) This is a win win for the recreational golfer (with a family even better)- for the cost of the other units in the several thousands dollar range it’s too much unless it’s your business.
@maxooo20
@maxooo20 3 ай бұрын
Why nobody made a system to combine radar and camera with 2 devices, and software to mix datas to be very accurate??? Like Square and R10 together for 1000$ will be the best combo!
@joshuawoodruff7280
@joshuawoodruff7280 3 ай бұрын
Very intersted is their going to be plans to incorporate 3rd party integrator for GS Golf Etc?
@emekaene6950
@emekaene6950 3 ай бұрын
Great review. Have you tried this unit outside on the driving range ?
@rotnam
@rotnam 3 ай бұрын
FAQ mention you cannot use it with sunlight, I assume this will not work outdoor most of the time.
@Relient77
@Relient77 Ай бұрын
I reached out to Square and they said you could use this with both lefties and righties doing a round of golf. But how realistic would it be to switch between the two during a round? Wouldnt you have to calibrate it each time you switched over?
@michaelnewburn-e5j
@michaelnewburn-e5j 3 ай бұрын
How did u like the simulation? Was it good? How good are the 10 courses compared with other simulators you have played?
@TheIncomparableGolfer
@TheIncomparableGolfer Ай бұрын
wouldnt the accuracy of the numbers increase if you knew both monitors were set to "sea level?" Is there an option on Square monitor to adjust elevation?
@thecringegolfer
@thecringegolfer 3 ай бұрын
My plus is that setting up to the side, makes it friendlier for smaller spaces vs mlm2pro or r10. But just read their faqs and not good for outside.
@bcjaerialphotography4265
@bcjaerialphotography4265 3 ай бұрын
Will this work with the RCT ball? If so maybe that will help with accuracy, also the carry distance may just be a software issue that need to update.
@Golficity
@Golficity 3 ай бұрын
The Square is a camera system (rather than radar) so the RCT ball shouldn't have any effect on the accuracy, since the RCT is designed to work with radar launch monitors.
@bcjaerialphotography4265
@bcjaerialphotography4265 3 ай бұрын
@@Golficity thx for the reply I appreciate the content
@michaelnewburn-e5j
@michaelnewburn-e5j 3 ай бұрын
What about the rapsodo ball with the dots?
@andrewt9204
@andrewt9204 2 ай бұрын
Man I wish I had a place to set up a sim. My garage has the tallest height, but is still only 8'9". At a
@knuteboy3778
@knuteboy3778 3 ай бұрын
I was really hoping you would compare the clubhead and clubpath data. That's what I'm interested in, because that's the kind of thing you can only get on the more expensive monitors.
@dancesupervisor
@dancesupervisor Ай бұрын
I got two questions: 1. what if you hit the monitor with a ball (bad strike)? I guess it will not survive... 2. will it work thru a portection glas porblemfree?
@glossolalian
@glossolalian 3 ай бұрын
What'd you think about the club data it provides? I see it says 0.0 deg club path and 0.0 deg face angle at 2:00, was that just a misread?
@ZnOxide
@ZnOxide 3 ай бұрын
Need club sticker to get data.
@EduardoEspinosa-j7c
@EduardoEspinosa-j7c 2 ай бұрын
Looks very tempting!
@4SUBLIME2O
@4SUBLIME2O 3 ай бұрын
Would definitely love to see this compared to the Garmin R10. I’m on the fence about purchasing a budget unit around Black Friday.
@willemhaifetz-chen1588
@willemhaifetz-chen1588 Ай бұрын
Pay as you go, is better or worse than a subscription? depends on your use.
@chrisprasad83
@chrisprasad83 3 ай бұрын
Would love to see the accuracy test vs the Rapsodo for sure, a comparable price range review!
@Golficity
@Golficity 3 ай бұрын
We tested the Rapsodo accuracy against Foresight earlier this year. Overall the Rapsodo did very well and the launch accuracy was very similar to the more expensive Foresight. You can check out the video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYLPlpWMjraMhrs
@tor9050
@tor9050 3 ай бұрын
@@Golficitysome people are saying that since both Square and GC3 use IR, they may interfere - hence the inaccurate spin numbers. Would you be able to test it against a trackman?
@Lee-ps3ts
@Lee-ps3ts 3 ай бұрын
Very intriguing. Pay as you play is better than sub, but still an added cost. Why is it indoors only?
@falconeye577
@falconeye577 3 ай бұрын
Question - Built-In Sim - So, does it Project to the Screen?
@D.WhiteGolf
@D.WhiteGolf 3 ай бұрын
The apex was really good too
@darrenhofmann3949
@darrenhofmann3949 2 ай бұрын
Were you using a laptop or desktop to get to projector or an iPad? Great review
@croikee
@croikee 3 ай бұрын
Would there be a way to set this up to work outside? Maybe if you shade the unit? I am unfamiliar on how this could work.
@chrispark1584
@chrispark1584 2 ай бұрын
hi. thanks for the video. i'm currently using Garmin R10 and ready for an ungrade. The product looks ok with no sub fee and looks like there is no region lock. One thing I don't understand is....you guys say the price is 700$ but isn't it 733 GBP? which is 982$ as of today. Am I missing something here like is there other website with 700$ price tag? Thanks
@jasonbrewer8065
@jasonbrewer8065 3 ай бұрын
Would this be easy to switch between right and left handed golfers? In other words is it as simple as just moving it it to the other side, or do you need to calibrate it each time, and if so is it quick to calibrate?
@KSReid
@KSReid 3 ай бұрын
probably like I do with Eye Mini Lite, which is a line on the mat either side of the hitting strip to line it up to
@SquareGolfOfficial
@SquareGolfOfficial 3 ай бұрын
You can move it to the other side of your hitting turf and then in-app you can change the handedness. It's a simple process which is all explained in the user manual.
@leafs2994
@leafs2994 27 күн бұрын
Make up two stands. Just move it to the other stand ?
@delusionaltraveler
@delusionaltraveler 3 ай бұрын
Nice review guys. Not everyone can hit real balls and camera based systems have shown promise with foam balls, any thoughts on testing some foamys? This is a market that is overlooked and could be profitable to manufacturers.
@jacobmccain8082
@jacobmccain8082 3 ай бұрын
The special balls are a deal breaker for me. I hit with ProV1x on the course, so I use V1X practice in my sim setup.
@jgfarrington
@jgfarrington 3 ай бұрын
Is there any advantage over buying a second hand, original Skytrak? Looks to be a pretty similar piece of tech to me.
@anthonybarnes5555
@anthonybarnes5555 3 ай бұрын
Can get new skytrak (not plus) for 999 now. Was thinking same thing
@joshuawoodruff7280
@joshuawoodruff7280 3 ай бұрын
Also, does it include markers for adding to your own golf ball or must you use the supplied marker ball for best accuracy. I beliive Calaway makes a marked ball for the MLM2 Pro.
@ca1ib3r93
@ca1ib3r93 25 күн бұрын
One question. Right now I can’t set up a projector hitting into a screen. Can you set this up with a net? For raw data purposes? Or must it be used with a sim screen like this?
@matthewraney3495
@matthewraney3495 3 ай бұрын
would this be recommended over the Garmin R10?
@bassmasta9117
@bassmasta9117 3 ай бұрын
Wow that thing is awesome. For some reason my Rapsodo and PRGR read 30-50 yards short and club speed is about 20mph slow indoors so I don't think my set up is good for this.
@Kaiju-Goji
@Kaiju-Goji 3 ай бұрын
It looks pretty good for the price, definitely leave the swing stick out
@rmclark339
@rmclark339 Ай бұрын
Can it be used outdoors hitting into a net?
@eddiewise7802
@eddiewise7802 3 ай бұрын
It looks like a great deal even with the extra fees. I think its cheaper then the monthly subscription to any others others.
@JustMeAP1
@JustMeAP1 3 ай бұрын
Fees are $10 for 24 games. I play a little more than that (outside cage) per month (with friends) at $10 for Garmin Home Tee Hero but I get 42,000 maps, not a dozen. Bottom line: the title is a click bait lie. Garmin R10 is still king.
@Doro-13
@Doro-13 3 ай бұрын
What's your teams top 3 or 4 monitors under $1k? Also does needing their own balls reduce the value for monitors you want to use at home and if you do go to the range?
@joebass5163
@joebass5163 3 ай бұрын
I'm wondering if the trackers being used side by side can interfere with measurements either one calculates
@MrSotBoy
@MrSotBoy 2 ай бұрын
Does it show club path data? I only saw club face data in the video but not club path
@Bech285
@Bech285 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, I always get excited when you test a new monitor, but it's always the same. They aren't really that accurate. Maybe if you just wanna play at home, but I really need the data. I think I'll just get one for clubhead speed. I heard they're pretty accurate and cheap.
@chrisnastrom2580
@chrisnastrom2580 2 ай бұрын
I would like to buy one. I live in Canada. What would be the cheapest option?
@peterring1979
@peterring1979 2 ай бұрын
Seems to be the cheapest way to get angle of attack club data. Is that accurate???
@glennwatson3313
@glennwatson3313 3 ай бұрын
Does it give clubhead speed?
@johnseele3114
@johnseele3114 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if it’s good for higher club speeds?
@AndrewLovell-z8i
@AndrewLovell-z8i 3 ай бұрын
How do the credits work if you are playing a round with a buddy?? Do you pay double the credits for each hole?
@michaelnewburn-e5j
@michaelnewburn-e5j 3 ай бұрын
Yes
@saythavisone3686
@saythavisone3686 3 ай бұрын
I have the MLM 2 pro and if you don't have the right space for it. The accuracy is not very good.
@jacoboneil9406
@jacoboneil9406 3 ай бұрын
Is it pay as you go if you want to play simulated courses only? Or do you have to pay as you go if you want to do range sessions?
@SquareGolfOfficial
@SquareGolfOfficial 3 ай бұрын
Courses only. Range sessions are completely free.
@PikeyScott
@PikeyScott 3 ай бұрын
This looks fantastic. Any info on how much ball travel its camera needs to see for ball data? I hit into a net at pretty close distances. Probably 6' in front of me.
@michaelnewburn-e5j
@michaelnewburn-e5j 3 ай бұрын
It’s should not matter
@EricZuckerman1
@EricZuckerman1 3 ай бұрын
Photometric devices need no more than 2-3 feet (and much closer to 2) to read the ball.
@mjmurphy53711608
@mjmurphy53711608 3 ай бұрын
I'll bet the Callaway etc RTC balls would work well too.
@JustMeAP1
@JustMeAP1 3 ай бұрын
I personally have not found a huge difference with using Titleist RTC balls, but I do a lot to help improve my R10's accuracy (always calibrate before using, 10 ft to the screen and 7' to the Garmin, 1.5 inches higher, etc). But then, I don't have a robot tester to keep my poor shots out of the calculation. lol
@MikeMalkowski
@MikeMalkowski 3 ай бұрын
The rtc balls are for radar devices. This is a camera device, I dont think they'd help on this one.
@TheUkilledkenny
@TheUkilledkenny 2 ай бұрын
so does a 4some take up 4 rounds?
@tjy698
@tjy698 3 ай бұрын
How was the putting?
@Golficity
@Golficity 3 ай бұрын
It’s pretty darn good! 👍🏻
@JasonGrissom
@JasonGrissom 3 ай бұрын
16:09 i'll save some time for all the people playing gspro right now. Good in depth review but this was all I needed to know. 😂
@joshhebert7
@joshhebert7 3 ай бұрын
dealbreaker for sure. we will see what updates come out but this LM is a pass for now.
@lanidrac
@lanidrac 2 ай бұрын
Is gs pro the best software? I'm new to indoor golf and would like to know what the differences in software are?
@jasonriccoboni5931
@jasonriccoboni5931 3 ай бұрын
Wait, I'm confused, how is this on the low end of portable launch monitors that offer all that data? I've done quite a bit of research trying to decide which monitor is the right one for me, and it seems to me there are 3 direct competitors to this one, two of them offered for less; Rapsodo MLM2Pro for $700, Garmin R10 for $600, and Swing Caddie coming in @ $550. They are all pretty accurate, and I believe they all have their own proprietary apps and can be used with both E6 & Awesome Golf, and I'm pretty sure they all offer just about the same launch data. I'm not sure what makes this one just as good, or better than the MLM2Pro, which comes in at the same exact price, or what makes this one better than the other two that are offered at a cheaper price? What data does this offer that the others do no? How is the accuracy when compared to the others, especially the R10, which seems to be the tried and true go to for most?
@silverthree7730
@silverthree7730 3 ай бұрын
All those options are radar based systems, camera systems are better for indoors no question. The garmin r10 is good for having fun, not accurate enough for full on serious practice or giving lessons. A lower priced competitor for camera based systems is much needed. But since this seems to be struggling with spin, it would honestly be a waste of money. The best bang for your buck right now is mevo + if you have the room, and the GC3 if you don't.
@tezzlacoilz
@tezzlacoilz 3 ай бұрын
The gc3 isn't in the same category, it's in a totally different league at 10x the price of the mlm2pro. The uneekor eye mini lite is a better option I think if you want a photometric system but are trying to keep your budget as tight as possible. It costs the same as the skytrak+ but is better.
@MBTK11
@MBTK11 3 ай бұрын
The subscription fee was the deal breaker for me for mlm2pro
@kegorock33
@kegorock33 3 ай бұрын
i'm just starting to research this stuff, so i'm not familiar. but i'm personally looking for a training aid that will give my club head position/angles and ball strike location. i'll have to check out all of these and more to find those stats without sub fees
@silverthree7730
@silverthree7730 3 ай бұрын
@@kegorock33 youre looking at 15k plus for systems that can measure those without subscription fees.
@James_D807
@James_D807 3 ай бұрын
Ummm, why not just draw the black dots on your regular ball? Hopefully it will be available in Australia
@TG-bq1kn
@TG-bq1kn 3 ай бұрын
What if Foresight is wrong? Unless you compare to real life how can you know?
@emann715
@emann715 3 ай бұрын
Foresight is one of the top simulators for a reason. That being said the disparities are almost certainly due to spin calculations. High quality monitors pick up spin MUCH better so usually have you hitting shorter (and more accurately) than on less expensive monitors Low spin numbers on the square make up the high difference in total distance each time, low spin will roll out much further
@ghostboyrider
@ghostboyrider 3 ай бұрын
My question: Does it work with marked foam/plastic balls?
@jw2par
@jw2par 3 ай бұрын
Is it sold in the states ? Only see UK link
@mhpchan
@mhpchan 3 ай бұрын
How does this compare to the original SkyTrak?
@FLdb-wj4wc
@FLdb-wj4wc 3 ай бұрын
I bought the Rapsodo about 6 months ago. It disconnects every 10 balls. So frustrating and ready to throw it right in the garbage. It's never worked since day one. Eventually I just end up hitting into the net with no launch monitor because I'm sick of trying to connect it. I tried to get tech support and they were no help. Don't get the Rapsodo.
@pwcstatenet7515
@pwcstatenet7515 3 ай бұрын
What's the loft of the wedge and 7 iron you used?
@Golficity
@Golficity 3 ай бұрын
31 degree 7-iron and a 53 degree wedge.
@nathansfishing2620
@nathansfishing2620 3 ай бұрын
You need to compare against the garmin r10
@michaelmackender974
@michaelmackender974 3 ай бұрын
Hi 👋 Can you test the club path and face angles against other launch monitors please?
@knuteboy3778
@knuteboy3778 3 ай бұрын
That's what I want to know. Seems like no one else is interested in this but I'm craving that club face to path information and if this thing can offer that at 700 bucks that's a huge game changer.
@weav8484
@weav8484 3 ай бұрын
The yardages don't look that close imo... Might as well just be guessing off the top of your head if it is that far off
@johna7354
@johna7354 3 ай бұрын
First video review of this on KZbin. Hello, can you use this outside ? Will you possibly be able to test outside and also checked there website and looks like there is some sticker to put on club to show club data. Will you be able to test that?
@SquareGolfOfficial
@SquareGolfOfficial 3 ай бұрын
We don't recommend using the launch monitor outside as it can affect the accuracy of the data. But yes, you can apply the markers that come inside the box for club data.
@boredymcboredface8624
@boredymcboredface8624 3 ай бұрын
Not bad but no GSpro mmm
@SquareGolfOfficial
@SquareGolfOfficial 3 ай бұрын
Coming very soon.
@chef_boi_ar_teej6969
@chef_boi_ar_teej6969 Ай бұрын
Sir a rectangle is a square
@ptrhattingh
@ptrhattingh 3 ай бұрын
Not sure why you didnt test the face and path accuracy.
@MrRwebb1983
@MrRwebb1983 3 ай бұрын
Will it work outside
@golfplusbeer6312
@golfplusbeer6312 3 ай бұрын
Had I not already bought an Eye Mini, I probably would have bought this because it’s what I always wanted! Putting practice ✅ Driving range ✅ Photometric ✅ Only pay for simulation ✅ No other launch monitor under $1k offers all of this. I also think you are assessing the swing stick incorrectly… that’s not for us (the golfer). That’s for when you’re entertaining and have people over (or wife/kids) who want to play but do not golf. Fantastic addition imho. You’ll also need to redo your accuracy tests. As others have mentioned, interference is a thing. Dotted balls are also okay imo. At this price you’re likely using a net and a TV, not a $2k projector and impact screen. With that sort of setup just dot the balls with a permanent marker and play the ball you want. If someone develops an GSPro API for this like the MLM2Pro it’s game won.
@homecourse6154
@homecourse6154 3 ай бұрын
Totally agree with this, its a game changer & I cant understand why they tested against GC3 & not the rapsodo?
@scottintexas
@scottintexas 3 ай бұрын
@@homecourse6154Or both!
@tor9050
@tor9050 3 ай бұрын
@@homecourse6154because GC3 is “ground truth” and we wanted to know how accurate this thing is, not how it compares to competitors. And by the looks of it, missing side spin completely and being off by 1000 RPM, not super accurate
@Steve-qn8gn
@Steve-qn8gn 3 ай бұрын
Not sure why the GC3 is being used as “the reference” unit here. A lot of these channels fall victim to this, comparing an ok device to an unknown device.
@eliot1c
@eliot1c 3 ай бұрын
GSpro connects?
@bowl816
@bowl816 3 ай бұрын
You didn’t watch the video, or just didn’t pay attention.
@nathansfishing2620
@nathansfishing2620 3 ай бұрын
Most average golfers aren't concerned about spin it's more about launch angle direction and carry distance....these are targeted with home users in mind 99% of golfers can't afford professional launch monitors
@GetBetterGolf
@GetBetterGolf 3 ай бұрын
If it’s reading the spin wrong, almost every other number will be wrong.
@nathansfishing2620
@nathansfishing2620 3 ай бұрын
@GetBetterGolf but on the test the carry distances were in line ?
@nathansfishing2620
@nathansfishing2620 3 ай бұрын
@GetBetterGolf also people buying this monitor will be co.paring against the garmin and mlm or mevo so that's the real comparison not against a 7k machine
@waynepark
@waynepark 3 ай бұрын
Nice! Looks like a Korean product. Does it work with gspro?
@SquareGolfOfficial
@SquareGolfOfficial 3 ай бұрын
We're working on it.
@joshuawoodruff7280
@joshuawoodruff7280 3 ай бұрын
@@SquareGolfOfficial Extra Cost???
@EduardoEspinosa-j7c
@EduardoEspinosa-j7c 2 ай бұрын
​@@SquareGolfOfficialthanks that would be great
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