FINALLY a Budget Golf Launch Monitor with NO SUBSCRIPTION Fees?!

[@scottintexas]

I always appreciate it when I’m able to park my 150’ yacht next to my private driving range! Thumbs up for that.

[@justinhilimire5156]

Wow you must be rich

[@topgunbass]

These monitors are going in the right direction. No fees. Rapsodo better wake up with the ridiculous fees charging among others also. These smaller companies are showing acuracy can be had at a much more affordable price.

[@JustMeAP1]

Fees here are $10 for 24 games. I play a little more than that (outside cage) per month (with friends) at $10 for Garmin Home Tee Hero but I get 42,000 maps, not a dozen. Bottom line: the title is a click bait lie. Garmin R10 is still king.

[@johnrusso3709]

Can't waggle with Garmin..​@@JustMeAP1

[@TheswedishDane]

The 199 for a mediocre software on rapsodo is really hard to swallow, not once did I play any simulation on it, only practice mode and a few range sessions, but even that is not worth the steep price

[@topgunbass]

@TheswedishDane ill admit if the mlm2 had no subscription I probably would have bought it. But then again the repeated videos and posts on the connection drops and miss read has me thinking I would have made a mistake.

[@JustMeAP1]

@@TheswedishDane Are you still using only the $199 "mediocre" solution, or have you found something better?

[@homecourse6154]

Mine arrived late last week, so easy to set up, courses look great and the data seems accurate, what's not to love at this $$$$$$$

[@JustMeAP1]

@@homecourse6154 First of all, this unit cannot be used outside. Not at the driving range, on a course, or in a backyard cage. That is better. Then, the Garmin is $300 less. That is also better. Lots better. For $300, I bought Awesome, not available with this unit, which does have fees. Around $160 a year in fees. No thanks. This unit has no fees only if you do not use it. True for any launch monitor.

[@armsr01m]

I bought it. It's coming to me now. I will test it and let you guys know it's performance. Especially for the side spin. Someone says infrared can make interference. It might affect the side spin result. He said, it worked well alone but it showed sometimes weird side spins being tested with other launch monitor. I don't like subscription. I want to play game sometimes for fun...but not many. I am a Skytrak user. I was considering buying Eye Mini light but I've found this video.

[@armsr01m]

I've tested it for one hour. The sensor and device itself are very good as the price. No problem at side spin reading. No delay unlike Skytrak. No unknown failure in reading shot. I can't expect more at that price. I like the credit policy because I will play games just several times a month. I can't pay a lot of money for it. If you need, You can make your own marking balls, but I purchased 9 more marking balls. It doesn't matter. but, the software is still not great. It has some problems, we can expect updates though. Some heavy game users might like year based subscription policy, but I am not that kind of person. I test it indoor. But if you avoid direct sunlight, I think it could work well. I hope so. I think the manufacturer is so bad at marketing. I've never seen any advertisement or something before except this video. I don't need Eye Mini anymore. This device is enough for me. Good price. But they have to upgrade the software.

[@eBurstMedia]

​@@armsr01m What kind of problems does the software have?

[@armsr01m]

@@eBurstMedia Simple question but it needs long answer. So, I will raise just one example. Driving range. It has 2 modes. One is Graphic mode, the other is Data mode. Yon can't see any club data at Graphic mode. You know, Attack angle, face angle...etc. If you want to see those data, you have to go to Data mode. But you can't go without closing the Driving Range. You can move to Data mode absolutely after closing Graphic mode. But when you close the driving range, the data's gone because you closed it. In other word, When you hit one shot at Graphic mode and you want to see the club data for the shot, You can NOT see it. Data mode doesn't show any Ball flying path graphically. Only numbers there. Not easy to figure out your shot was good or not. Slice, Draw, Hook....no idea. Only numbers. But you can't transfer it to Graphic mode directly. You have to close the session. And the shot data's gone. So, you can't see the graphical ball flight. Just one example. But it couldn't be not big deal. I checked my attack angle and club path already. I got some feeling, so I don't need Data mode that much. I don't know they will upgrade the software though, The device is working well now. Better than OG skytrak.

[@JustMeAP1]

@@armsr01m Why spend $1,075 on this if you have a Skytrak? And why not spend less than HALF on a Garmin?

[@armsr01m]

@@JustMeAP1 I didn't spend $1,075. I spent only below $600. Skytrak has some failure in reading shots. Many times. And...I can't play even one 18-hole game without subscription. And...I wanted to see the club data of my swing. Because of space issue, I can't use Radar Sensor Launch monitor. I need camera sensor only. I was searching some info about Eye Mini and then found out this device. I was too curious to skip it and it was cheap.

[@unclejohn37]

All these LM companies have to truly consider making units that are LEFT/Right hitter friendly! Best part of Sim golf is having friends over and its such a pain to move a LM to lefties then back to righties. That is why I bought a Rapsoto. If I ever upgrade it will be too a ceiling mounted unit.

[@anthonybarnes5555]

Optishot nova is down the line, sits behind you but no reviews which is worrying. Cost 1,700

[@btconnergaming]

Well yeah but there are pros and cons to everything. People who need portability can't do an overhead unit. Then when looking at portable units, you have to account for the room you have. Not everyone has minimum 16 feet of space to dedicate to the launch monitor. With side monitors you only need enough space to swing the club.

[@10KenHall]

This is a step in the right direction, the pay as you go is a fraction of what the others charge. There’s a lot of market out there for whoever comes up with an affordable accurate monitor without ripping us of with subscription fees

[@homecourse6154]

This is honestly it, you get 55 rounds free then its only $20 for another 55 rounds, that's .36c per round!

[@martindouglas6538]

Just a quick note on your previous test of the SQUARE: It seems that it shouldn't be tested next to other optical monitors; it's susceptible and does suffer from interference.

[@solson223]

Comparatively to other machines in the same class, this seems amazing for the price. I've almost bought several units over the past year that ranged up to $4K, but I always stopped myself because I'm a casual player these days that doesn't practice all the time. Having a side unit (rather than 6-8 feet behind you) that's pretty accurate, even if not as good as the GC, that I may have to shell out $20 every once in a blue moon in place of a subscription, hits the spot for me. $699 and it's small an compact, no subscriptions. Yes please! Thanks for the review.

[@KyleW0806]

Keep these simulator devices & setups coming!

[@bowl816]

If they could get this on par with Skytak, I would buy it now. The Skytrak+ course play looks great!

[@adamjb8165]

I’m not sure that having these LM’s next to each other allows either to get correct readings. The GC3 uses IR flashers/strobe lights as part of its camera system, and it looks like the square might as well. These could interfere with each other and lead to incorrect readings.

[@ZnOxide]

You’re right. Camera-based devices interfere with each other. When I tested it with TrackMan after buying it, the result was perfect, but there was a spin error with QED n GC quad. Maybe golfcity didn’t know that.

[@MickeyintheMiddle]

Pay-as-you-go is so much better than a subscription. If I go out of town or in the hospital for six months, why would I wanna keep paying a subscription to not play golf? I will pay for the game, let me pay for and download the individual courses one time, then leave me alone! How hard is that?

[@The8BitNerd]

20 dollars for 55 rounds of golf is a steal.

[@robertbeato2795]

Square you can have it shown on the projector screen yeah? Building an outdoor enclosed sim, undecided on which monitor. I like this since it can be next to you vs behind

[@timpoos4635]

One day some company will make an affordable camera based launch monitor that can be bought outright, with no subscriptions or fees to use it, with great 3rd party integration and they will make a lot of money

[@jaccokooijman7566]

The problem is they can make more if they add a subscription model and who doesn't want more money?

[@ElVerdeVida]

Looks very very promising. Hope now i can sell my skytrak to get this

[@JamesGrant-u2m]

Can we please get a video showing the different readings with regular balls or range balls? I think a lot of people on the range want some measurements using regular balls. Thank you guys.

[@richardjacobs7632]

I’m just looking for something to play indoor golf in the winter fro fun!

[@Golf101inc]

Wonder if TP5 pix would produce similar results to the provided sleeve of marked balls...

[@jvon0311]

Funny reading the comments…”I’m done after the underhanded fee”… did you all hear what they said? 55 rounds that’s a lot of indoor golf and not sure about you but if Im playing a “round”… it’s at a course. These devices are driving ranger replacements (you make up that cost where I’m at after 46 trips to the range - 4-5 months of range time) This is a win win for the recreational golfer (with a family even better)- for the cost of the other units in the several thousands dollar range it’s too much unless it’s your business.

[@GibbsLD395]

Love to know accuracy due to higher ball/club speeds. Some of the cheaper units aren't as accurate the higher you go in speed

[@cppxj]

Interesting on their site its notes " Indoor use only (do not position in direct sunlight)"

[@TheUkilledkenny]

so does a 4some take up 4 rounds?

[@hughcuff3797]

Nice. Also tell me what projector you’re using ?

[@matthewraney3495]

Looks like a great product, but I guess it wouldn’t really work at the range bc of the special golf balls needed ? Or am I missing something?

[@raulalonsov]

Does it wor outdoor like in a driving range where there is no direct sun light?

[@EduardoEspinosa-j7c]

Looks very tempting!

[@joshuawoodruff7280]

Very intersted is their going to be plans to incorporate 3rd party integrator for GS Golf Etc?

[@OMG-2]

Guys this was a good review as far as it went. You did say iOS but which devices? iPhone, IPad, MacOS - these apps can run on all of those if the developer allows it. Would have like to seen you compare putting between the two monitors as well. That seems like a real selling point for the Square if it is accurate. Also wish you had shown the data tile screen during some of the shots, if a GSPro third party connector is going to be made for it, it will likely require that screen to grab the data. If I did not already buy a photo metric unit due to space limitations this would have been on a short list of ones to try. It may not be accurate enough for a club fitter but is is good enough to provide a fun way to practice and play some golf without maxing out the credit card.

[@stevenm2311]

Did you try this outside with a net? Curious if it’s any less accurate in the bright sunlight.

[@Lee-ps3ts]

Very intriguing. Pay as you play is better than sub, but still an added cost. Why is it indoors only?

[@4SUBLIME2O]

Would definitely love to see this compared to the Garmin R10. I’m on the fence about purchasing a budget unit around Black Friday.

[@Relient77]

I reached out to Square and they said you could use this with both lefties and righties doing a round of golf. But how realistic would it be to switch between the two during a round? Wouldnt you have to calibrate it each time you switched over?

[@jefflop]

Have you set up two identical expensive launchpads to see the variances between identical machines?

[@darrenhofmann3949]

Were you using a laptop or desktop to get to projector or an iPad? Great review

[@delusionaltraveler]

Nice review guys. Not everyone can hit real balls and camera based systems have shown promise with foam balls, any thoughts on testing some foamys? This is a market that is overlooked and could be profitable to manufacturers.

[@CrazyHammer9]

Third party integration is working, officially supported by E6 and GSpro.

[@JasonGrissom]

16:09 i'll save some time for all the people playing gspro right now. Good in depth review but this was all I needed to know. 😂

[@joshhebert7]

dealbreaker for sure. we will see what updates come out but this LM is a pass for now.

[@lanidrac]

Is gs pro the best software? I'm new to indoor golf and would like to know what the differences in software are?

[@frankieliles3652]

My question is how will it work outside. I mainly use an outside driving range so I wonder how accurate it would be.

[@MrRiusxx]

Me too

[@jeremieb.8694]

Website says DO NOT use in direct sunlight 🤷🏻

[@frankieliles3652]

@@jeremieb.8694 thanks

[@knuteboy3778]

I was really hoping you would compare the clubhead and clubpath data. That's what I'm interested in, because that's the kind of thing you can only get on the more expensive monitors.

[@D.WhiteGolf]

The apex was really good too

[@rmclark339]

Can it be used outdoors hitting into a net?

[@willemhaifetz-chen1588]

Pay as you go, is better or worse than a subscription? depends on your use.

[@TheIncomparableGolfer]

wouldnt the accuracy of the numbers increase if you knew both monitors were set to "sea level?" Is there an option on Square monitor to adjust elevation?

[@falconeye577]

Question - Built-In Sim - So, does it Project to the Screen?

[@dancesupervisor]

I got two questions: 1. what if you hit the monitor with a ball (bad strike)? I guess it will not survive... 2. will it work thru a portection glas porblemfree?

[@thecringegolfer]

My plus is that setting up to the side, makes it friendlier for smaller spaces vs mlm2pro or r10. But just read their faqs and not good for outside.

[@ca1ib3r93]

One question. Right now I can’t set up a projector hitting into a screen. Can you set this up with a net? For raw data purposes? Or must it be used with a sim screen like this?

[@jbwise2002]

I dont mind the pay as you go model

[@JustMeAP1]

Fees are $10 for 24 games. I play a little more than that (outside cage) per month (with friends) at $10 for Garmin Home Tee Hero but I get 42,000 maps, not a dozen. Bottom line: the title is a click bait lie. Garmin R10 is still king.

[@bowl816]

I agree, I prefer a pay as you go and would like more choices though. I think it’s great I can fit where many of launch monitors won’t. Like when your space doesn’t have the depth.

[@JustMeAP1]

@@bowl816 ​ If I own this for ten years, a $120 annual fee/subscription is $1,200. I paid $300 for Awesome Life (which is $15 a month or $1,800 over a decade, or SIX TIMES MORE). I prefer cheaper. But that's just me. LOL

[@emekaene6950]

Great review. Have you tried this unit outside on the driving range ?

[@rotnam]

FAQ mention you cannot use it with sunlight, I assume this will not work outdoor most of the time.

[@Kaiju-Goji]

It looks pretty good for the price, definitely leave the swing stick out

[@chrispark1584]

hi. thanks for the video. i'm currently using Garmin R10 and ready for an ungrade. The product looks ok with no sub fee and looks like there is no region lock. One thing I don't understand is....you guys say the price is 700$ but isn't it 733 GBP? which is 982$ as of today. Am I missing something here like is there other website with 700$ price tag? Thanks

[@eddiewise7802]

It looks like a great deal even with the extra fees. I think its cheaper then the monthly subscription to any others others.

[@JustMeAP1]

Fees are $10 for 24 games. I play a little more than that (outside cage) per month (with friends) at $10 for Garmin Home Tee Hero but I get 42,000 maps, not a dozen. Bottom line: the title is a click bait lie. Garmin R10 is still king.

[@peterring1979]

Seems to be the cheapest way to get angle of attack club data. Is that accurate???

[@bcjaerialphotography4265]

Will this work with the RCT ball? If so maybe that will help with accuracy, also the carry distance may just be a software issue that need to update.

[@Golficity]

The Square is a camera system (rather than radar) so the RCT ball shouldn't have any effect on the accuracy, since the RCT is designed to work with radar launch monitors.

[@bcjaerialphotography4265]

@@Golficity thx for the reply I appreciate the content

[@michaelnewburn-e5j]

What about the rapsodo ball with the dots?

[@michaelnewburn-e5j]

How did u like the simulation? Was it good? How good are the 10 courses compared with other simulators you have played?

[@MrSotBoy]

Does it show club path data? I only saw club face data in the video but not club path

[@Mattcarr3]

Wasn’t Rapsodo completely inaccurate when it came out? I’m assuming they’ll be fine tuning accuracy over time just like they did with Rapsodo. Also, the fact that it sits to the side is a huge selling point. None of the other units in this price range do that. They are all behind. These guys will definitely control this part of the market if they can get this right.

[@JustMeAP1]

Is sitting to the side a huge selling point? Easier to hit. Lying about fees (the title is a click bait lie) and using expensive balls you can't replace is NOT a good way to get started.

[@bowl816]

@@JustMeAP1the title doesn’t say no fees, it says no subscription fees. A big difference. Subscriptions you pay regularly, annual or some other way. But you pay whether you use it or not. This company/unit charges for simulation games in their system, not a subscription and at a cost of less than 20 cents a round, again a consumable, not a subscription. This on top of an under $700 unit that sits to the side versus behind the golfer, which is a huge advantage if tou don’t have 20’ of space length.

[@Mattcarr3]

@@bowl816was thinking the same thing. The subscription for other monitors is also for some of the data. This is literally for only the courses. I would say that’s more of an add on than a necessity anyway.

[@Mattcarr3]

@@JustMeAP1yes, sitting to the side is a huge selling point to someone who doesn’t have the space behind.

[@JokeZ1337]

Expensive balls you can't replace? The camera just uses these points as reference for how fast the ball is spinning, you can paint them onto a proV1 if you want or use a taylormade pix ball.

[@joshuawoodruff7280]

Also, does it include markers for adding to your own golf ball or must you use the supplied marker ball for best accuracy. I beliive Calaway makes a marked ball for the MLM2 Pro.

[@jw2par]

Is it sold in the states ? Only see UK link

[@chrisnastrom2580]

I would like to buy one. I live in Canada. What would be the cheapest option?

[@johnseele3114]

I wonder if it’s good for higher club speeds?

[@glossolalian]

What'd you think about the club data it provides? I see it says 0.0 deg club path and 0.0 deg face angle at 2:00, was that just a misread?

[@ZnOxide]

Need club sticker to get data.

[@chrisprasad83]

Would love to see the accuracy test vs the Rapsodo for sure, a comparable price range review!

[@Golficity]

We tested the Rapsodo accuracy against Foresight earlier this year. Overall the Rapsodo did very well and the launch accuracy was very similar to the more expensive Foresight. You can check out the video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYLPlpWMjraMhrs

[@tor9050]

@@Golficitysome people are saying that since both Square and GC3 use IR, they may interfere - hence the inaccurate spin numbers. Would you be able to test it against a trackman?

[@matthewraney3495]

would this be recommended over the Garmin R10?

[@PikeyScott]

This looks fantastic. Any info on how much ball travel its camera needs to see for ball data? I hit into a net at pretty close distances. Probably 6' in front of me.

[@michaelnewburn-e5j]

It’s should not matter

[@EricZuckerman1]

Photometric devices need no more than 2-3 feet (and much closer to 2) to read the ball.

[@joebass5163]

I'm wondering if the trackers being used side by side can interfere with measurements either one calculates

[@maxooo20]

Why nobody made a system to combine radar and camera with 2 devices, and software to mix datas to be very accurate??? Like Square and R10 together for 1000$ will be the best combo!

[@michaelmackender974]

Hi 👋 Can you test the club path and face angles against other launch monitors please?

[@knuteboy3778]

That's what I want to know. Seems like no one else is interested in this but I'm craving that club face to path information and if this thing can offer that at 700 bucks that's a huge game changer.

[@glennwatson3313]

Does it give clubhead speed?

[@ptrhattingh]

Not sure why you didnt test the face and path accuracy.

[@jasonbrewer8065]

Would this be easy to switch between right and left handed golfers? In other words is it as simple as just moving it it to the other side, or do you need to calibrate it each time, and if so is it quick to calibrate?

[@KSReid]

probably like I do with Eye Mini Lite, which is a line on the mat either side of the hitting strip to line it up to

[@SquareGolfOfficial]

You can move it to the other side of your hitting turf and then in-app you can change the handedness. It's a simple process which is all explained in the user manual.

[@leafs2994]

Make up two stands. Just move it to the other stand ?

[@MrRwebb1983]

Will it work outside

[@Bech285]

Honestly, I always get excited when you test a new monitor, but it's always the same. They aren't really that accurate. Maybe if you just wanna play at home, but I really need the data. I think I'll just get one for clubhead speed. I heard they're pretty accurate and cheap.

[@andrewt9204]

Man I wish I had a place to set up a sim. My garage has the tallest height, but is still only 8'9". At a

[@bassmasta9117]

Wow that thing is awesome. For some reason my Rapsodo and PRGR read 30-50 yards short and club speed is about 20mph slow indoors so I don't think my set up is good for this.

[@qdub2012]

The way I see it is I can play 18 holes in under 45 minutes so I’d play 2-3 rounds 3-4 times a week so I would be spending $20 about every 6 weeks which is around $200 a year. So the MLM2 pro seems more reasonable factoring in what more you get out of it and closer to accuracy and versatility with indoor and outdoor use

[@DanielMuvdi]

Use the square for free with GSpro that is 1000% better than MLM2 software and only pay for the GSpro year suscription.

[@qdub2012]

@ how much is gspro and don’t you need a gaming spec pc?

[@jacobmccain8082]

The special balls are a deal breaker for me. I hit with ProV1x on the course, so I use V1X practice in my sim setup.

[@ghostboyrider]

My question: Does it work with marked foam/plastic balls?

[@johna7354]

First video review of this on KZbin. Hello, can you use this outside ? Will you possibly be able to test outside and also checked there website and looks like there is some sticker to put on club to show club data. Will you be able to test that?

[@SquareGolfOfficial]

We don't recommend using the launch monitor outside as it can affect the accuracy of the data. But yes, you can apply the markers that come inside the box for club data.

[@witnac2k15]

so no subscription fee but it has fees lmfao

[@JustMeAP1]

Fees are $10 for 24 games. I play a little more than that (outside cage) per month (with friends) at $10 for Garmin Home Tee Hero but I get 42,000 maps, not a dozen. Bottom line: the title is a click bait lie. Garmin R10 is still king.

[@BarrySmoother]

It's a joke lmfao.. It's lucky none of these softwares have been cracked other wise I would just pirate the software and never pay a cent.

[@oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656]

🤦

[@safranic]

At what? Misreads, R10 is blind to the ball.

[@JustMeAP1]

@@BarrySmoother Theft is always cheaper. That's why your car insurance is expensive.

[@AndrewLovell-z8i]

How do the credits work if you are playing a round with a buddy?? Do you pay double the credits for each hole?

[@michaelnewburn-e5j]

Yes

[@LeftyMurph]

I'll bet the Callaway etc RTC balls would work well too.

[@JustMeAP1]

I personally have not found a huge difference with using Titleist RTC balls, but I do a lot to help improve my R10's accuracy (always calibrate before using, 10 ft to the screen and 7' to the Garmin, 1.5 inches higher, etc). But then, I don't have a robot tester to keep my poor shots out of the calculation. lol

[@MikeMalkowski]

The rtc balls are for radar devices. This is a camera device, I dont think they'd help on this one.

[@jgfarrington]

Is there any advantage over buying a second hand, original Skytrak? Looks to be a pretty similar piece of tech to me.

[@anthonybarnes5555]

Can get new skytrak (not plus) for 999 now. Was thinking same thing

[@jacoboneil9406]

Is it pay as you go if you want to play simulated courses only? Or do you have to pay as you go if you want to do range sessions?

[@SquareGolfOfficial]

Courses only. Range sessions are completely free.

[@Doro-13]

What's your teams top 3 or 4 monitors under $1k? Also does needing their own balls reduce the value for monitors you want to use at home and if you do go to the range?

[@croikee]

Would there be a way to set this up to work outside? Maybe if you shade the unit? I am unfamiliar on how this could work.

[@pwcstatenet7515]

What's the loft of the wedge and 7 iron you used?

[@Golficity]

31 degree 7-iron and a 53 degree wedge.

[@decode4064]

who let one rip at 13:48 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[@mhpchan]

How does this compare to the original SkyTrak?

[@eliot1c]

GSpro connects?

[@bowl816]

You didn’t watch the video, or just didn’t pay attention.

[@nathansfishing2620]

You need to compare against the garmin r10

[@chef_boi_ar_teej6969]

Sir a rectangle is a square

[@James_D807]

Ummm, why not just draw the black dots on your regular ball? Hopefully it will be available in Australia

[@justinstephenson9360]

I will call this a good start, maybe even a very good start. It needs a bit of fine tuning but that is true from just about every budget launch monitor when they first launched. What needs to be clearer is which data points are measured and which are calculated. They also need to add club head speed as a data point but on a measured rather than calculated basis. For the price I am impressed

[@nathansfishing2620]

Most average golfers aren't concerned about spin it's more about launch angle direction and carry distance....these are targeted with home users in mind 99% of golfers can't afford professional launch monitors

[@GetBetterGolf]

If it’s reading the spin wrong, almost every other number will be wrong.

[@nathansfishing2620]

@GetBetterGolf but on the test the carry distances were in line ?

[@nathansfishing2620]

@GetBetterGolf also people buying this monitor will be co.paring against the garmin and mlm or mevo so that's the real comparison not against a 7k machine

[@saythavisone3686]

I have the MLM 2 pro and if you don't have the right space for it. The accuracy is not very good.

[@waynepark]

Nice! Looks like a Korean product. Does it work with gspro?

[@SquareGolfOfficial]

We're working on it.

[@joshuawoodruff7280]

@@SquareGolfOfficial Extra Cost???

[@EduardoEspinosa-j7c]

​@@SquareGolfOfficialthanks that would be great

[@armsr01m]

I don't understand why my replies to JustMeAP1 have gone, but anyway, I didn't spent $1000. I paid only $5xx, under 600. Skytrak has some problem in reading shots. Basically it has delay. And...without subscription I can't play even only one 18-hole game. I can use only Camera based Launch Monitor like Eye mini, GC3...etc. Radar launch monitor requests more space. If you wanna use this Square Golf under the Texas sunlight, just don't buy it. Ball is Ball. It's cheap. But, the marking ball has just some black dots on surface, I think DIY marking ball can work well. Camera just catches optical pictures only. No other electrical or magnetic technic inside of balls. But I will not make and test DIY balls because I have already 15balls. That's enough for me.

[@TG-bq1kn]

What if Foresight is wrong? Unless you compare to real life how can you know?

[@emann715]

Foresight is one of the top simulators for a reason. That being said the disparities are almost certainly due to spin calculations. High quality monitors pick up spin MUCH better so usually have you hitting shorter (and more accurately) than on less expensive monitors Low spin numbers on the square make up the high difference in total distance each time, low spin will roll out much further