Finally... A comparison of retirement life in Argentina, Panama, & Uruguay

We've lived in all three countries. So...here's reality. See which country fits what you're looking for in retirement.
00:00 Start
01:44 Uruguay
19:51 Argentina
33:33 Panama
46:28 Our retirement choice

[@MARCOSSASTRE-tg3qs]

Left Argentina when I graduated there for free as a physician Lived in the US for 50 years and now I’m retired I’m a proud American but still miss my native country Argentina is very chaotic but certainly has a charming soul In my opinion is hard for Americans to live there because of the Anglo-Saxon sense of order Young people adapt and enjoy it Great video! Thanx to both of you!

[@laptopseniors]

Glad it was helpful, Marco! Thanks for your comment. We appreciate you watching. 😊

[@AraceliGonzalez-wz6wl]

Hola, si buscas en KZbin vas a ver que hay norteamericanos que están viniendo a vivir a Argentina , a ellos les gusta mucho las provincias de Córdoba, Mendoza y Neuquén. En su mayoría son hombres. (Esto empezó a suceder después del mundial de futbol ) también hay personas que traen a grupos de adolescentes de visita a experimentar la vida en la Patagonia por unos días. hay videos en donde los chicos cuentas sus experiencias. saludos !!

[@discoverglobeliving]

Great comparison on retirement planning in Argentina, Panama, & Uruguay! Really helps in making informed decisions.

[@laptopseniors]

Hi. Thanks for watching and and for your kind comment. 😊

[@Analog_nomad01]

I have been to both Argentina and Uruguay and loved them both. Short visit to Uruguay and longer in Argentina. In Argentina, I stayed in BA, Bariloche and Mendoza. Loved the food and wine in Mendoza. I found Bariloche to be a little expensive as there are a lot of Chilean tourists that drive over for vacations in the summer (January). BA was amazing! The architecture alone could keep me occupied for 90 days!. Thank you for the great tips!

[@laptopseniors]

Hi! You’ve had some great adventures too! We appreciate you sharing and we love the architecture of BA as well. It’s very European. Thanks so much for watching.

[@flycessna6068]

Argentina has some real potential for growth. Supurb geography and decent demographics. As I keep learning more about different countries and Cities Mendoza has really caught my interest

[@MikeMikeMiker]

The promenade in Uruguay is called "La Rambla," not Malecon. The Malecon is in Cuba. Uruguay has undergone much change since you were there 12 years ago. The culinary scene is so much better now. Uruguay is boring compared to Buenos Aires, but the quality of life far superior. Punta del Este isn't a ghost town any longer in the winter months, and it's incredibly safe. There's a reason why the South American elite vacation in Punta del Este. The downside to Uruguay is the cost of living, which is about twice as expensive as Buenos Aires. The upside is that things in Uruguay work. My ideal situation would be to spend November to March in Uruguay and the rest of the year up north. Cheers!

[@laptopseniors]

Thanks Mike for the Rambla reminder. I loved Punta, and the culinary scene then was not that bad. Just not a lot of restaurants. Nice to know it's improved. Your idea of Nov-March and then north is a good one.

[@christinea8424]

Isn't malecón also just a spanish word for waterfront esplanade? And rambla is spanish for promenade or boulevard which can be waterfront, but doesn't have to be. So you can say La Rambla es un malecón y El Malecón es una rambla. 😊

[@MikeMikeMiker]

@@christinea8424 If you visit Uruguay and ask a local where the Malecón is, they're going to look at you and have no idea what you're talking about. Some may say Cuba. 😁

[@kabrink64]

or Panama City or Mazatlan or .... @@MikeMikeMiker

[@p.c.h.6721]

​@@christinea8424 You've got it absolutely correct. The word Malecon may have started in Cuba, but it's used in many other countries. Rambla is a promenade street, like the ramblas of Barcelona.

[@estudiantes68]

There are much more things to do in Buenos Aires than in Panama. If you like sports, theatres, bookshops, museums... Buenos Aires wins hands down, because it has always been the cultural capital of Latin America.

[@laptopseniors]

Yes, amazing city.

[@jgonz260]

Agree, Buenos Aires is a great and beautiful city with so many amenities,

[@FeMiNem-Poet]

And Tango dancing!!!🌸

[@-.-.-.-.-..]

Buenos Aires is the cultural capital of Latin America… 🤔 Since when?

[@-.-.-.-.-..]

Buenos Aires is the cultural capital of Latin America… 🤔 Since when?

[@grizzmax]

Man what a great, informative video. I'm 67, an American living in ESTONIA (Tallinn). An OK place, but the highest inflation in Europe. Prices are high, about 60% speak english. I just spent seven months in Bulgaria, and prices were much cheaper, but virtually no one speaks English which was a huge problem for me. I have somewhat looked into the exact countries you are talking about but haven't made any decision regarding them. You cleared important concerns for me a lot. Thank you; I will subscribe.

[@laptopseniors]

Thanks Grizz. Super small world. Vivi (my wife) is Estonian. Been to Tallinn, and pretty much all of the rest of the country many times. Didn't realize prices have climbed so much there.

[@rednose1966]

Hello this is my first video of your channel. Thank you for the discussion! I have family in Buenos Aires and I was in the country back in October. My cousins live in Matadaros, Liniers and some where sw of San Telmo. I hope to find more of your videos of Buenos Aires. I look to return in May for the month where I will be staying near China town in Belgrano. I am on the discovery of the city, the culture and the people. Please make more videos about your experiences in Buenos Aires. Thank you again!

[@tjamieson7238]

This was great! Once again you’ve done an amazing job putting this together. Thank You!

[@laptopseniors]

Hi. Thanks for watching and and for your kind comment. 😊 so glad you enjoyed it. ❤

[@user-wd3th5wo2e]

Another hour of pleasurable video. Thanks Pat and Vivi.

[@laptopseniors]

Hi. Thank you for watching and for your kind comment. 😊 so glad you enjoyed it. ❤

[@davidp7799]

Thank you. I was actually interested in this topic in the back of my mind and your channel popped up by chance. I enjoyed hearing your insights.

[@laptopseniors]

Hi David. Isn’t it funny how that happens? Thanks for watching and for your comment. 😊 we are so glad you enjoyed it.

[@Campulance]

You guys are awesome, please keep your videos going, thanks!

[@laptopseniors]

Hi. You’re so sweet. Thanks for watching and and for your kind comment. 😊 we are so glad you enjoyed it. ❤

[@kevinrowland800]

Thank you for this tremendous video! I’ve been in Panama the past 3 months and love it….

[@laptopseniors]

Glad you enjoyed it! And thanks for your comment.

[@flacosolazzi6250]

Muy buen video. Saludos cordiales desde Olavarría, Argentina.

[@flycessna6068]

Very informative! And great video. Theres a lot of information out there but getting to hear you talk about your own actual experiences was great!

[@CharlesMuccia]

One important thing I'd like to point out is that the North Americans moving to these countries, and others, are not only making it more expensive for locals, but also other North Americans and foreigners on a fixed income. I'm retired on a small fixed income and four years ago I made the decision that Medellin, Colombia would be a good retirement destination for me because of the low cost of living, good healthcare and beautiful climate. In that four years, Medellin has become a hot spot for wealthy foreigners and digital nomads and the rental prices have gone up, and there's a growing anti-gringo movement because of this. I've also heard this is happening in Portugal. I understand that everyone wants to live an affordable, comfortable life, but it seems like the number of affordable places outside the US is quickly shrinking.

[@BOULDERGEEK]

This is the way of the world. The US became what it is because of people leaving their homelands for a better life of opportunity. Now Estadounidenses are doing the same thing. The US is in decline if not outright collapse. There's no shame in moving elsewhere. I understand how people who got something good want to pull up the ladder behind them. But that's selfish.

[@laptopseniors]

All true Charles. Which is why I pointed it out as a negative. I saw something on Nomad Capitalist (youtube video) that struck home in this area. Andrew (the guy) was pointing out that it'd insanely hard and expensive (like 100 million$ expensive) to get a residence visa in Singapore. So many want one. But, in the 80's it was fairly easy. But then in the 80's it wasn't the Singapore of now. That all reminded me of Argentina and Panama now. Sometimes it's worth it to gamble on countries AHEAD of the crowd for a payoff way down the road. They'll get pricier, but also way better.....hopefully.

[@jimm8682]

You forgot to mention how tiny the country of Uruguayan is, they cannot afford too many foreigners moving there, that might be the problem with permanent residency…..Argentina is our favourite country to live in, if you want community, theatre, and art in any way Buenos Aires is your choice…you can become a permanent resident without a problem unless you do anything illegal ( like most other countries in the world) their medical profession and hospitals are the best you can find…technology is at the top of the world, most people specially in Buenos Aires speak English…sometimes very good English, the food is the best and the climate in general is great with moderate winters in Buenos Aires., with great beaches near by, skying in the Andes, waterfalls in the north, with great trains and buses to reach any of these places. Go there and you will be just fine

[@PablaMMoore]

Uruguay is not the less expensive country to live in South America. That is not caused by Americans moving there. There is not a lot of population in Uruguay and Americans are welcome to live there permanently. Uruguay always had and has good diplomatic relationship with the US.

[@PablaMMoore]

@@jimm8682 Retired Americans move there because there is not a lot of people and there is plenty of land to move in. Some people like the city others like to live in the country, others in the coast. You can go to the public school, high school and University de la Republica for free. If you like to send your children to private education, there are plenty of private schools also and at list 4 private Universities. Crandon Institute, British School, German School, Lycée Français and many others. All of those are teach English and some also teach other language besides Spanish.

[@James-uk8dx]

Ok you two, this was a long one. But, the entire journey was worth the ride! Thank you for keeping it light and for your astute editing skills! You continue to affirm my desire to spend time in Panama in retirement. I continue to enjoy your content. Keep up the great work! Good day.

[@laptopseniors]

Our pleasure! Hi James. Thanks for watching and for your funny comment. 😊 we are so glad you enjoyed it and appreciate you.

[@carolinaconsanimathon4539]

The Malecon is in Havana (Cuba).... in Montevideo is called "La Rambla"!!!

[@laptopseniors]

Yes thanks 😊

[@terryashley4674]

This is probably the best video I'll watch all weekend. 👍🏽👍🏽

[@laptopseniors]

Hi Terry. Thanks for watching and for your awesome comment. 😊 we are so glad you enjoyed it.

[@travelingexpatlife]

Such an informative video! Learned so much. Thanks for sharing!❤

[@laptopseniors]

Hi Thanks for watching and for your comment. 😊 we are so glad you enjoyed it. V

[@gabrielaquinto5511]

Thank you very much for sharing, I have lived in Montreal for 18 years, but I sincerely wait for my retirement to return to Buenos Aires

[@laptopseniors]

Sherbrooke and Rue de la Montagne.....lived there for 3 years. Loved Montreal. Thanks for watching Gabriel.

[@aherve2003]

Live in Sept-îles, snowbirding in Buenos Aires

[@billhennessey6374]

Stumbled upon your channel and subscribed. I am a permanent resident of Panama. You don't need to be retired for the "pensionado discount." Women who are 55 and men who are 60 qualify for the generous discounts. Panama City is not really a retirement destination in my experience. I live in Boquete and it is only about 30 minutes from good hospitals in David. Other popular retirement destinations are the Coronado area for those who like the beach. The sidewalks are indeed tough for people with mobility issues. The expats are pushing prices up as well. Thanks again!

[@-.-.-.-.-..]

This is true anywhere expats go. Their mania of paying asking price for everything without considering the local prices. You have to negotiate down prices, instead of comparing it to Arizona, Colorado, etc. prices. They ruin it for everyone who comes after.

[@laptopseniors]

True...thanks Bill.

[@MarianKnowlton]

In looking at the videos it seems the housing prices go from very low to very high ($600+ and up); not that much in between???

[@billhennessey6374]

@@MarianKnowlton , you can find plenty of houses priced in between. Check out real estate videos posted by Jackie Lange of Panama Relocation Tours on KZbin. Good luck!

[@p.c.h.6721]

Hi, so you don't need to have the pensionado visa to be able to get the discounts? You can get the discounts as long as you're 55 (women) 60 (men)?

[@uncommonsense5876]

Just found your channel recently. Love your videos. Appreciate your insights as I am well traveled over the world over 30yrs, but really enjoy the quality of your videos and aware you're high quality folks as well.

[@uncommonsense5876]

Many of the places I have lived in and traveled to North America , SFrance, Spain, Germany, Austria, Iceland, Panama, Canada, UAE, and several South American countries which included 2 months in the jungles of Peru on banks of Amazon River. 😮

[@laptopseniors]

Welcome aboard! Thanks for watching and for your comment. 😊 we are so glad you enjoyed it and appreciate you.

[@robertbombace9153]

Exceptional, Video presentation. From people who have walked the walk. Thank you guys❤

[@laptopseniors]

Glad you enjoyed it! 😊

[@michaelcostello-ej1px]

first time viewer. Great informal,unscripted banter really helps convey sense of each country

[@laptopseniors]

Thank you. We really appreciate your comments. V. 😁

[@bigcliffadventures]

I have lived in Panama 30 years now. Some of what you say is true. I only 72 not my Youngs son is a doctors and my wife is a doctor and we have 8 doctors in the family my wife is panaman. I work each day all over the country I build roads on farm land and some of the islands too. It's is a wonderful live here but as all way it's what you make to be. God bless y'all

[@laptopseniors]

8 doctors. Wow! Great work ethic. Thanks for watching.

[@llaregubjinks5080]

Found your stream by chance. Great stuff, having travelled and worked in my job all over the world, I am definitely looking for a retirement destination . Your stream was very helpful.

[@laptopseniors]

Hi Thanks for watching and for your comment. 😊 we are so glad you enjoyed it.

[@seanlynch9039]

Watched every minute, loved it. Many thanks

[@laptopseniors]

Awesome, thank you! 😊

[@vev5093]

Just Subscribed. Loved your presentation .Thank you

[@laptopseniors]

Thanks for subbing! We appreciate you watching. 😊

[@marimedgal]

I have six relatives who are currently living in Panama City, Panamá. Four of them have been there for many years and love it. Two of them moved there recently. I’m hoping to visit next year.

[@kestreljc1559]

Thank you very much; very helpful video.

[@user-ck9ng1xs3m]

Portuguese here but living in Canada for the past 40 years . Husband and I love Canada but hate the cold .After visiting multiple countries and doing our homework decided to by a retirement condo/Airbnb in the North cost of the Domenican Republic/ Puerto Plata.The town is called Cabarete loads of expacts from all over the world spending the winter months there . Affordable and nice weather all year round

[@tinat8141]

Stellar content!!! You both are so warm and engaging and offer such a balanced perspective of these countries so that someone can figure out which is best for their lifestyle and interests. Thanks for this comparison. Continued success!!!!

[@laptopseniors]

Thank you so much!! Glad it was helpful, Tina. We appreciate you watching. 😊

[@valerieperry183]

Yes!....I must say this couple & the way present the info 'Truly' Awesome,!!!( What a beautiful union😊 Keep up the very good work....❤😊

[@mpking1397]

Love the show truly enjoyed it hope to see you in Panama some day soon .

[@laptopseniors]

❤ awesome! We hope so too.

[@realpropertymangement7640]

I'm an international kinda guy. Been traveling globally most of my adult life in a professional capacity. I was considering Thailand for my retirement. Last visited in late 2023. Had a great month there. Very inexpensive, great health care and every level of lifestyle one could want. But new tax considerations have caused me to reconsider. It's also a looooong way from "home". I've never been to Panama, but your experience has me intrigued. I like that it is so much closer to the US. Planning to visit soon and conduct my own due diligence.

[@jyap22]

Thailand's tax change on foreign income is just crazy. Thai people are great and Thai Government is not bad at all. It will just end up more wealthy expats not going to Thailand long term. As for the locals with foreign income that they want to catch out, there are so many ways that they can do to remain tax efficient. I simply hope that the Thai Government will come to its senses soon.

[@laptopseniors]

Let us know what you think when you see Panama.

[@blahdood]

Panama is more expensive

[@dav22]

I've been to the three places you talked about Buenos Aires has a lot going on , great theater scene and very walkable. Be careful of the many broken sidewalks , lots of protests always,great food of course but it's a long way from Toronto . Jim give your wife a chance to say more, great video though looking forward to good places to see in Panama. Gracia,

[@p.c.h.6721]

I don't think it's that clear how the new Thai tax system will work. How would they control if you get your money out of an ATM? And I doubt pensions will be taxed. Time will tell, I was considering Thailand as well, but I'm still not sure, I speak Spanish so I'm also looking at these other countries.

[@SUNNMANN139]

Since I am getting ready to leave the US and had my eye on Uruguay as a destination, your video definitely shed light on options I hadn't thought about. Very helpful. Thank you.

[@laptopseniors]

Thanks.

[@PablaMMoore]

Get your eye in the Uruguay's east coast over the Atlantic Ocean for properties. There are retired Americans in Rocha. I hope you can pack your container, move soon, find a nice property and enjoy your retirement! 😊

[@HJones-pi5bs]

Fabulous video! Thank you for all this information. It is a great help! :-)

[@laptopseniors]

Our pleasure! Thanks for watching and for your comment. 😊 we are so glad you enjoyed it and appreciate you.

[@rosefarley5757]

Love the honesty about expat influence on Panama prices…had a feeling that was/would happen but still looking into moving there. Thanks for the comparisons!!

[@CharlieBrown0507]

It tends to happen when you have an influx of people into a town. Take for example Fort Mill in South Carolina. There is a large influx of northerners into this town including me. Prices have gotten as high as in New York now. Locals hate us all transplants.

[@laptopseniors]

Hi Rose. Thanks for watching and for your comment. 😊 we are so glad you enjoyed it.

[@sunbeltliving]

This was a great video. Thank you.

[@laptopseniors]

Glad you enjoyed it! 😁

[@viagenseoutrascoisas2235]

Thanks for sharing. Wishing all the best. ❤❤

[@laptopseniors]

We really appreciate your comments. V. 😁

[@viagenseoutrascoisas2235]

@@laptopseniors ❤️

[@dianaj3139]

So interesting... I have watched The Nomadic Capitalist for a few years now and He has mentioned all of the above countries as retirement or destinations for Wealthy individuals seeking better tax situations. When you started describing Uruguay I was very surprised, because I hadn't really thought about how it could have changed so much in recent years.... Great personal story and information!! Thank you so much! ( a new subscriber)

[@laptopseniors]

I watch Andrew a lot too. His info is really up to date and he doesn't pull punches. Very informative.

[@laptopseniors]

Hi Diana. Thanks for watching and for your comment. 😊 we are so glad you enjoyed it. V

[@TheZambie1]

Great video, thanks for your work in this! I so envy you two!

[@laptopseniors]

Hi Thanks for watching and for commenting. 😊 we are so glad you enjoyed it and appreciate you. We are very blessed.

[@metaphy]

Thank you for this video. I totally agree (French living in Panama). I just discovered your channel, and love the way you interact and deliver balanced analysis, you seems to be a nice couple. I think something is missing though, and it would be nice to complete (or point me to another video): it's about the real estate, renting, buying, reselling, second hand market, and so on ...

[@laptopseniors]

Welcome! Thanks we do our best.

[@steverector787]

I have been watching your channel for the last six months or so and I really enjoy it! You are a wonderful couple and very informational. So “thank you” both for helping my wife and I in our decision to live outside the United States. We have pretty much zeroed in on Panama and we’ve been there once and we are going back in June. We are beach people so we will be staying for the month of June at the condos at Rio Mar in San Carlos. I was curious where you all are living now as I thought maybe you were still in Panama or have you returned to United States and if so, why? Anyway, thanks so much for all the great content that has been so helpful to be in my wife! Wishing continued good health to both of you.

[@laptopseniors]

Our pleasure! Hi Steve. Thanks for watching and for your comment. 😊 we appreciate you. We bounce around a lot and are focused on making informative videos these days.

[@encampsaround]

Brilliant video !!!! Thank you so much. Would have been nice to know the date (what year) you were in those places to better understand the comparison. But very grateful to have seen this video.

[@laptopseniors]

For Panama and Argentina-10 years ago. But...I read the UY forums each week and see what people write/complain about. For AR...we have friends there and our conversations definitely talk about what's going on now, for all those years. As for Panama...well, now for dates. That's up to date.

[@mtngrl5859]

Awesome video! I had been considering a move down to Uruguay, I was loving the Punta del Este area since it reminds me of some of the beach communities along the Central Coast of California. Through some of my investigations, I got the sense of their bureaucracy which your video confirmed. I'll stay put here in Panama & enjoy vacations down there. Love your honest commentary and your fun attitude!

[@laptopseniors]

Punta del Este is a great area. Only a couple downsides. Jan & Feb are crazy with the influx of people, driving rents into the stratosphere. Outside of those months rents are pretty decent. But, outside of those months the city/town's population drops by around 90% so lots of shops and restaurants close due to no patrons. Very odd, but again....great town.

[@mtngrl5859]

@@laptopseniors Thanks for your response & the additional info! I'm not too surprised at many of the shops/restaurants closing down in the non-peak season. About 30 years ago Boca Raton, Florida was the same way. Thanks for all of your valuable info!

[@laptopseniors]

Our pleasure! 😊 we are so glad you enjoyed it and appreciate you. Stay tuned as things are changing in Uruguay now too!

[@mtngrl5859]

@@laptopseniors Thanks for your reply! Apart from your insights on Uruguay, most of the online reports present a certain image. From what I'm hearing from long time residents in Uruguay, the crime is increasing, so some citizens of that country are looking for other options. When I started to look at the prices of real estate (Comparable to better areas of Coronado & Boquete), then factored in how much more expensive durable goods are (cars, appliances, frankly everything) Panama is a much better value.

[@JLTravels]

Thank you…great insights!

[@laptopseniors]

You are so welcome. We appreciate you.

[@brentonharvey2404]

Awesome, Thank YOU!

[@merder415]

Nice video! Buenos Aires is ideal if you want to enjoy a cultural life, like going to the theatre, concerts, lots of books shops, music, gourmet places...plus that is a romantic an boheme city ( we are so proud of our city jaj) wish you the best! Mercedes

[@laptopseniors]

Totally agree! Thanks for your comment. We appreciate you watching. 😊

[@merder415]

@@laptopseniors ❤

[@TheAirlock]

Hi, Thanks for your informative and fun videos. Which cities/countries would you recommend for a winter wellness getaway for a single guy aspiring snowbird looking to dip their toe in the pool of possibilities of places to retire in Latin America? My Spanish isn’t fluent but language barriers are more like hills for me. Looking forward to the challenge. Coming from a major American city in the NE. Thanks!

[@laptopseniors]

Mexico, Panama, El Salvador (yeah, now it's safe), Costa Rica, Columbia....for places close. If you're fine with 12-14 hour plane flights, then Argentina, Malaysia, Thailand and Viet Nam or Bali would be good too.

[@qarionlineeducation]

Amazing information thanks a lot

[@Newsman2024]

Pat, one thing I can tell you the issue I have had with Panama is that even though I speak fluent Spanish, the people I’ve talked with in Boquete, like guides, hotel people even car rentals have all tried to mess me around money wise so I wouldn’t say the people are trustworthy! John Carroll

[@CharlieBrown0507]

Please, you need to be smart. That is everywhere. In Fort Mill SC, Just this morning someone was recommending a guy for cleaning an external water heater and that his prices were fair at $250. That was a joke. Someone refuted that and said that York County Gas charges $99 for the same service. I wished I had seen her face. She was ripped off badly. I had a electrician guy (a "neighbor") come give me an estimate for a new wall outlet and a new flood light outside. He was charging me for material as if they were two separate jobs. When I am sure he would have had left over electrical wire from one of the jobs as the minimum you can get from Home Depot is 50ft. He didn't get the job. People try to rip you off everywhere.

[@-.-.-.-.-..]

@@CharlieBrown0507Yes but in Latín América there is the gringo factor to consider. That’s on top of the usual shenanigans you mention.

[@CharlieBrown0507]

@@-.-.-.-.-.. The "Gringo" factor is all in your head. They try to rip off their own countrymen/women. Granted, at a lesser amount but they do rip off their own. You just need to be smart and know your prices. Do your research. And if they rip you off once take it as a learning lesson. Don't forget that saying: "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me." When I was in Bali in Indonesia, I was ripped off when I bought a souvenir off the street from a kid. I saw the same item at half the price at a store. Next time I am in Bali, I know better.

[@BaronVonBattenberg]

You're so right. In Argentina as most people are European descendants even having dual citizenship, they wouldnt try to scam u gringo factor style, as they still feel immigrants. They'd just welcome you. Love your honest review. ❤

[@claudiopiazza3793]

I think the key is to make them see that you have been living in the place for a long time, just like when you take a taxi, you have to make it clear that you know the way so they don't drive you around everywhere to charge you more, tourists are the most affected.

[@pabloco2627]

Hi guys I saw this clip on my feed and I have decided to click. I'm originally from Uruguay living in the US now. I couldn't believe what I was hearing from you about the immigration process in Uruguay. I would have never imagined that it was so difficult for people to obtain permanent residency and that because of that reason alone people left the country. I truly hope that they fix this, Uruguay has always been a country of immigrants and I know for a fact that we need more. Best of luck.

[@laptopseniors]

Thanks Pablo. We lived there 10 years ago, so what happened to us/others might have changed. Although I do still read the UY expat forums weekly and stay up to date. It may not be as bad as we had it but it still appears to not be just cut and dried like Panama. And it's way more expensive which also makes people look elsewhere. Too bad, because we loved it there.

[@ggl2947]

Uruguayans don't even want their fellow Uruguayans citizens deported from Argentina back in Uruguay. Uruguay added up more or less to Argentine culture, but Uruguay also was the origin of lots of Uruguayan criminals that crossed the river to set their criminal career in Argentina. Remember when Argentina started deportations to foreign criminals? Uruguayans politicians were the first to complain about it saying they didn't wanted them back, I mean where else would Argentina deport Uruguayans? Deport them to Mexico? Uruguayans have that stupid set of mind, that's why I'm not surprised about the hassles to obtain permanent residency there

[@laptopseniors]

Hi Pablo. Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. Things might change now as the corruption comes to light. Hope so.

[@quilmes99]

A bit of a shame... Argentina has a lot of waterfront opportunities outside of Buenos Aires. Great people, safe communities and amazing food.

[@noelbarrett1395]

how so?

[@tamics9978]

​@@noelbarrett1395Que hay una gran costa en Argentina, muchas playas unidas a lo largo de Buenos Aires. Está la ciudad de Mar del Plata, Pinamar, Cariló, Monte Hermoso, Necochea. Son todas zonas de playas en Buenos Aires, a una hora o más de la capital.

[@laptopseniors]

Yes not much in BA that are desirable. We will check el Tigre next trip.

[@manzahalem8845]

Am amazing presentation, hope the editing process wasn't too time consuming! New subscriber, will look forward to viewing more of your content. Thank you for sharing such great & relevant info!

[@laptopseniors]

Great to have you aboard. Thanks.

[@amazing-osky2052]

Great video you guys. You certainly provided the audience with a true perspective of all 3 countries. One thing you forgot to mention is that Panama's currency is the US dollar although they call it Balboa or something which makes it easier for Americans not to have to deal with exchanging money and being ripped off with outdated currency.

[@laptopseniors]

True...guess I thought that was a given to know about the US/Balboa, but actually if you're new to this....why would you know? Thanks.

[@ricardogiampieri1408]

ELLO PAT & vIV!! I was interested in the comments of the three countries. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMMENTING SO WELL A great greeting from the city of Mar del Plata ARG.

[@laptopseniors]

Thanks Ricardo.

[@laptopseniors]

Ricardo, lucky you! Our friends visit Mar del Plata and love it. We really appreciate your comments. V. 😁

[@mekagoenvos1234]

Hi great video ! but remember the Malecon is in Havana. in Montevideo is called La Rambla. Greatings!

[@laptopseniors]

Thanks for the info! 😊

[@bobwilliams9207]

very informative video, thanks

[@laptopseniors]

So nice of you, Bob. 😊

[@simonecaruso7324]

Great video! What kind of health insurance you had in Argentina?

[@laptopseniors]

Hi Simon. We had travel insurance and pay as you go is also very affordable.

[@hodappja1]

Good Day Pat and Viv. We are subscriber's and enjoy your content. This one was great! I recognize that a lot of work goes into Post-production and the longer the video, yeah it's a pain. New mic's and they work great. I used several of your videos to help me plan our trip to Panama. We completed our Pensionado Visa application and have our temp's and plan to return in July/Aug to pick up our Permanent. Unless the crap hits the fan, in the US, Panama was to be our winter home and a pivot point for travels to other countries in Central and South America. A quick update, Alto Boquete is suppose to be building a hospital but during our visit there I wasn't able to get a timeline. Since our return, in late January, I've been trying to catch up on your videos. I retired at the end of 2023 so I'm trying to get use to a silent phone and new "Honey Do" projects. Wingo is providing discounted airline services to the region. Don't know if that is something you'd be interested. Not sure where you want to take the channel but you've got things going. Viv always looks great and you are a lucky man, but you knew that. Take care...

[@laptopseniors]

Thank you. Yeah, lot of work. But then being retired....lots of time.

[@laptopseniors]

Um 😊 thank you. I enjoyed reading your comments and the update on the hospital. It was a rumour we heard and will make a big difference to Boquete. V.

[@arielacosta2421]

Great video, thanks

[@laptopseniors]

Glad you liked it! 😊

[@SYigit]

What a lovely couple ❤ I am using this video to improve my listening comprehension and pronunciation skills for my english and I am learning lots of things about these countries as well.❤

[@laptopseniors]

Thank you! 😃 great idea. 😊

[@gobfranklin6759]

Thanks for this comparison. Any comments about getting residency/citizenship in Argentina to get access to the Shenzhen euro zone?

[@laptopseniors]

Hi. Great question! South America is more linked to that area than the Us for sure. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. 😊

[@azizghanim]

Awesome video and beautiful couple. Blessings

[@laptopseniors]

That’s very kind Aziz. We appreciate you. ❤

[@SlickSydney]

Great info. Just starting my Panama research. Will be coming from BC. Canada. Cheers

[@laptopseniors]

Best of luck! Sydney. Thanks 😊

[@davidgaskins9577]

Thanks for the information, thinking of moving to Argentina (Buenos Areies) sorry for the spelling; your wife's beautiful and seems very nice. Look forward to your next video,,,😊

[@laptopseniors]

I'm a lucky guy David.

[@laptopseniors]

Awe David 😊 thank you 🙏🏻. You’re so kind. V

[@johnnybq2]

Hope you can get back to Panama and give us a tour of the locale/neighborhood you choose to stay. Really interested to go to Buenos Aires now too… always thought it was dangerous. Thank you for candid review - opening the mind to possibilities!

[@laptopseniors]

Hi Johnny. Thanks for watching. 😊We have begun videos on the neighborhoods of PC now. More to come.

[@Time2Live.online]

I am so glad YT recommended your channel to me. I am subscribing. As an expat with 30 years in Central America, I found this video very informative and fun to watch. I am content here in Costa Rica, but I have been curious about Argentina for quite a while now. I agree with your assessment, at least it lines up with other videos I have seen. Looks like fun, and may be great to visit, but since growing up in Chicago, I could never move to a place that gets cold. You are a cute couple, enjoyed your video. Thanks.

[@laptopseniors]

Hi John. Thanks for watching and subscribing. 😊 Agreed that Argentina is best for snowbirds. We are curious about Costa Rica! Perhaps we should talk 😂

[@Time2Live.online]

@@laptopseniors Anytime, I'd like that.

[@flowbrandz316]

I'm not anywhere near retirement, but I really enjoyed your video. My wife and I spend a lot of time in Panama and absolutely love it. Very easy access to the US

[@laptopseniors]

Our pleasure! Yes quite accessible. Thanks for watching and for your comment. 😊 we appreciate you.

[@Newsman2024]

I’ve watched y’all several times before when I was booked to fly to Boquete but I’ve had to cancel my Feb flights because of back surgery. And I love y’all’s work, but you didn’t give enough to Argentina!!

[@laptopseniors]

Stay tuned, there’s more to come.

[@ncwezy]

Ty for sharing

[@laptopseniors]

You are so welcome 😊

[@cindyreid6404]

I use a translator on my phone all day long at work. Argentina is my choice for retirement I still have a few years to go. Thank you for all the wonderful information.

[@ericolander9920]

Love your videos! My wife and I currently live in Buenos Aires. At first in Palermo and now in Villa Urquiza which is a more family friendly neighborhood and calmer with not so many expats. But prices have risen here and it’s no longer a bargain..even with our US dollars. So we will be returning to our home base in Chernivtsi , Ukraine in about six months.

[@laptopseniors]

Our pleasure! Hi Eric. Thanks for watching and for your comment. 😊 we are so glad you enjoyed it and wish you a safe return to Ukraine.

[@garyxyz4400]

From Pennsylvania, I always had Montevideo Uruguay as a possible retirement destination but now thinking SE Asia might be better as I get closer. I had also watched KZbin video on Panama and that is always a possibility. Thank you for sharing. Enjoyed the video.

[@laptopseniors]

Interesting! Glad it was helpful! Thanks for your comment. We appreciate you watching. 😊

[@rr6013]

Thinking of becoming expat in AR, Buenos Aires feels European and you’ll find languages spoken from all over the world. Big cultural city life with library, museums and civic events it fosters a very young at heart vibe with activism and social life. Good option if you are a nomad. Ferry 2hr trip to UR across river is Lux. There’s much more things to do, places to go and reasons to spend your money in AR

[@laptopseniors]

Thanks for watching and for your comment. 😊 we are so glad you enjoyed it and appreciate you.

[@razkrat8803]

Nice. This one went viral 😊 do more comparisons :)

[@laptopseniors]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for your comment. We appreciate you watching. 😊

[@divinaflamingarrow9556]

I appreciate your banter❤. Thanks for the info.

[@laptopseniors]

Any time!😊

[@kevingormley4893]

Great video! Long videos are only bad if they are not interesting- this was very interesting! I have only been to DR and Mexico. I thought the dollar being in Panama was a negative but maybe I need to rethink it. Again thanks.

[@laptopseniors]

Our pleasure! Hi Kevin. Thanks for watching and for your kind comment. 😊 we are so glad you enjoyed it and appreciate you.

[@A.C.Precision]

Thank you great

[@jameskelly9243]

Where can you find the year round 70s in panama. Great video we just found you folks. We will try all three countries real soon 6 months or so. Your a lucky man. Your wife is cute.

[@laptopseniors]

Thanks James. Boquete in Panama is the '70's year round. It sits at a higher elevation than most of Panama so cooler. And the temp stays in roughly a 70-78 range year round. Occasionally a little hotter or colder for a day or two. But basically you can count on mid-70s.

[@user-oz2lf9hj6j]

Really valuable lived experiences against all the official info...muchas gracias!

[@laptopseniors]

Our pleasure! Glad it was helpful! Thanks for your comment. We appreciate you watching. 😊

[@marcelogrosman]

Thank you guys very much for such useful information! One question : regarding Panama you mention health care services are quite good, but how you reach to that services? It is included on the Pensionado or you must pay for a private health insurance ? Regards from Barcelona, Spain !

[@laptopseniors]

Hi Marcelo. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. 😊 This changes often so look for current info when you go. Private health care is available and quality medical care is expanding well with several new hospitals.

[@synewparadigm]

Many of the doctors get their degrees in the US. private clinics are very good.

[@roadtriprob8442]

Great video, thank you...we have been in Argentina since the first of November with 2 months in Buenos Aires and 1.5 months in Cordoba and Mendoza, soon to return to the Canadian east coast. The value in Argentina I would agree may be unmatched anywhere with the possible exception of SE Asia. We have felt safe and welcomed the whole time here.What we have found especially in the last few weeks is that the blue dollar rate is no longer keeping pace with inflation yes its still extremely good value especially in comparison to Canada. Also Im not sure its a reflection of the Canadian currencies slight drop in value but our blue dollar exchange rate has decreased by 10%. Thank You for the content.

[@laptopseniors]

Thanks. Great info being there now.

[@noelbarrett1395]

I assume a blue dollar is a Canadian dollar?

[@roadtriprob8442]

@noelbarrett1395 no the blue dollar is the unofficial exchange rate which is currently about 30% higher than the official exchange rate which you get by sending funds to yourself via Western Union

[@ericolander9920]

We came to Buenos Aires just a couple months before you and decided to stay for a while. But you’re right that the blue dollar rate is not working as much in our favor anymore and inflation is murder. I think we’ve lost about 20% of our purchasing power in the last six months. So we will be leaving by the September for a much cheaper country in eastern Europe.

[@gusmore26]

In terms of latitude, my map comparisons show that the south coast of Uruguay (Montevideo, Punto del Este, etc.) are about as far South of the equator as the border between South Carolina and North Carolina is North of the equator. Does that seem correct to you Laptop Seniors?

[@laptopseniors]

Hi Gus. Thank you for watching and leaving a comment. 😊 we think it feels just a little farther from the equator but close.

[@johngrisham4097]

Thank you for your info session. WOW, you carry your age very well sir!

[@laptopseniors]

Lucky genes. Thanks.

[@MrJulius1958]

THANK YOU !!!

[@laptopseniors]

You're welcome! We appreciate you watching. 😊

[@Zelielz1]

Good video!

[@laptopseniors]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@naturalhealingwithcherylkirby]

Really enjoyed this video what a lovely couple you are, how pleasant it was to watch you both interact, sweet. God Bless You and Yours.

[@laptopseniors]

Thank you!

[@scottturner6139]

Good info. 2 years in Santa Marta COLOMBIA

[@laptopseniors]

Glad it was helpful! We appreciate you watching. 😊

[@davidgaskins9577]

I have heard good things about Coronado; what can you tell me about that place or places like it?

[@laptopseniors]

Hi David. Thanks for watching. 😊 please see our video of Coronado.

[@robjus1601]

Very interesting!

[@laptopseniors]

Glad you think so!. We appreciate you watching. 😊

[@wesgraham2262]

This was such a well-rounded expose on 3 countries, that it felt like I was getting a very valuable, in-person, private consultation! Where do I mail my check? 😎

[@laptopseniors]

Glad it was helpful, Wes! Thanks for your comment. We appreciate you watching. 😊

[@pescacondario243]

What you don't say is that you have so many places to live in Argentina that you can't even imagine, retired or not, Mendoza, San Juan, Patagonia, or cities far from the capital Buenos Aires, which also has very quiet places, like the Atlantic Coast, and many more, is to take into account in terms of costs and safety, hugs

[@tamics9978]

Cordoba también,tiene muchos pueblos seguros, tranquilos y muy lindos.

[@laptopseniors]

Yes. We would love to see them all. Our pleasure! Hi James. Thanks for watching and for your comment. 😊 we are so glad you enjoyed it and appreciate you.

[@josedelrio7352]

I’ve been living in Florida for the last 24 years missing my crazy and amazing Argentina, i believe in this president , he’s honest and aligned with the right countries , i know this is the right path for my country, not sure if eventually it would be a cheap place to retire but im sure it will be better place to live, we needed this change,im 42 years old, still young but planning my retirement for sure, not as i want to retire now but is something that requires some thinking and planning, thanks for the video it was very informative, god blessings!!

[@laptopseniors]

Thanks Jose! We love it too. Planning for retirement early is so smart. We appreciate you watching. 😊

[@kabrink64]

Hello, great video thanks. You said you lived in Uruguay for about 2 years. Unless I missed it, I didn't hear you say how long you lived in Argentina and Panama. Just curious as a part of the comparison. I've been to Panama City and out to Penonome area as well. Not yet been to Argentina or Uruguay. BA and Mendoza are top of the list for next scouting trip for me. I am very interested in Mendoza area.

[@laptopseniors]

Hi Thanks for sharing! We have new videos in production on Argentina. We appreciate you watching. 😊

[@sacredvisionz4412]

Hiya, have you lived in Paraguay? I’d love to know your input on it. There is no ocean as such which I don’t like but there is a big river with a beach like setting. 😊

[@laptopseniors]

Thanks for watching. 😊 no many expats went there from Uruguay. It sounds lovely.

[@PeterDavila-mx9ni]

Wow. Great video. Thank you. Yes. I'll be retiring in the US in 2 months. I'm planning to visit Panama for 2 months in December. I have watched a lot of the videos of the mountain regions there and I do like the vibe that I've been getting from the Volcan area. For many years, I had been looking forward to retiring to Florida in the US, but that state has gotten expensive. So I may get the Pensionado Visa to Panama during my visit there. Then, I may just retire to that country next year.

[@laptopseniors]

Glad it helped.

[@BOULDERGEEK]

Consider Cuenca, Ecuador, as well. Colombia is getting great reviews for cost vs quality of life. Chile is great but a little boring, but very secure and safe. We have spent the last year and a half between Ecuador and Argentina.

[@PeterDavila-mx9ni]

@@BOULDERGEEK I like Panama's government's stability and relative safety.

[@Betty-my3tw]

@@BOULDERGEEK Does Cuenca get a lot of mosquitoes? That's our big deal-breaker.

[@leonardocraboledda7892]

Thanks guys for the video I’m thinking about my retirement and really appreciate your help My wife and I are looking for places to live when we retire We where born in Montevideo and what you said was true,but even with us to get our ID’s it’s a problem to many requirements always,but I hear here in USA that Uruguayan documents are strong for that reason We don’t call the path by the water (Malecón) we call it La Rambla … and yes side walks in Montevideo are so dangerous full of potholes So we are planning to spend our last years there so we really appreciate your sincere opinion about budget for retired people from USA Thanks!

[@laptopseniors]

Glad it was helpful Leo! Thanks for your comment. We appreciate you watching. 😊 enjoy retirement near la Rambla

[@wesgraham2262]

First time viewer. New subscriber. 70 years old and thinking of Argentina. In BA, were you able to use the ATM’s with no problem? Did you get the natuonal exchange rate from them or did you get the blue rate?

[@laptopseniors]

We used the ATM's. No problem, but that was before some restrictions were put on. The black market rate wouldn't be in a bank obviously. We're going to do a video with our friends who live in BA soon, and they'll explain all that and more in detail.

[@wesgraham2262]

@@laptopseniors - That would be wonderful.

[@claudiopiazza3793]

I am from Argentina, it is estimated that by June there will no longer be restrictions and the only exchange rate will be that of the banks, so there would be no problems withdrawing from the ATM

[@laptopseniors]

@@claudiopiazza3793 Thanks Claudio. Lots of people asking about that.

[@wesgraham2262]

@@claudiopiazza3793 - Good to hear that. Thank you, sir.

[@rudfil]

We are going to BA in early March... You have any idea how much groceries would cost per week for 6 adults?

[@EG-iu4ok]

50 bucs a week

[@laptopseniors]

We have two new videos in production with fresh new info answering top questions. Thank you for watching 😊