Finally! A Raspberry Pi Linux Tablet that works!

[@seanfaherty]

“Not sponsored, I just like it “ is a better endorsement than any smooth segue.

[@JeffGeerling]

I was looking for a controller I could stash anywhere. The brick that is an XBox One or 360 controller I use and love just doesn't fit in a lot of places (tight drawers, bag, a pocket even). The 8BitDo does, and it's not a bad controller either! Sure the sticks aren't amazing, but they work fine and it's not like I'm doing MLG!

[@Brain_pocketer]

@@JeffGeerling good choice, 8bitdo is a personal favorite manufacturer of mine. I actually started modding their controllers, too.

[@staffie85]

@@JeffGeerling yeah I have a couple of their NES and SNES themed one's, for the same reason and nostalgia. Would of got the SN30 Pro too, if they had Xbox layout instead of PS layout.

[@deanwoodward8026]

"This display requires a custom driver..." DAYS SINCE LINUX KERNEL COMPILED: 0

[@aytviewer2421]

LOL!

[@KeithOlson]

#triggered

[@frankearl9285]

"Restart the Clock!" (Not that I'm any different. I do embedded Linux for the day job...so I recompile almost every work day...)

[@Killerjerick]

I feel like this would be perfect to wall mount as a smart home tablet, have all your home assistant buttons/switches on it.

[@Killerjerick]

@@flethacker Yeah, my main thought process was that this runs a pi, so you can theoretically install any Unix OS and have complete control over the device, you can't have custom buttons on a kindle/ipad or android (maybe with a jailbreak and root) but to have total control over the backend is actually a big selling point. If your main purpose was to just run home assistant, a kindle could just have the website up permanantly.

[@spierkid5000]

My thoughts as well!!

[@Demutori]

@@Killerjerick I agree, but as a sidenote you can make some widget buttons and put it on Android homescreen - for example, Clusterr did it some years ago (kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5Ddm4yDjd-ibck on 0:30).

[@RaidOwl]

Boy do I not need this...but boy do I want one lol

[@nathanhamman418]

Order the cm4 now, get it in 8 months

[@RaidOwl]

@@nathanhamman418 That would certainly make for a good Christmas present...for 2022

[@drmosfet]

For an old timer that's been on the internet since the 90s, if someone told us back then you would have to uses an add blocker on a 4 core CPU operating at over a Ghz per core just to surf the web we would tell you your crazy, this is proof just how bloated the internet has become.

[@JeffGeerling]

Can't say I disagree. I worked on a few large websites, and it was a constant battle trying to prevent marketing folks from forcing us to add in more analytics and 'personalization'/tracking tools. It got to the point where I had to make a presentation to show them how we could save 80% of the page load time just by reducing the number of trackers/systems that integrated with the site, and thus get more satisfied visitors (and better SEO ranking), but nobody bought it. They wanted that precious marketing data :(

[@alexatkin]

@@JeffGeerling Yet they will suffer in the long run as people turn to adblocking. I resisted for a long long time as I understand something has to pay the bills. But when KZbin started running ads every couple of minutes, I couldn't handle it any more. If they had only kept adverts unobtrusive and lightweight, I don't think people would resort to adblocking.

[@Zimbob2424]

@@alexatkin I use the Brave browser for you tube and I never get ads while watching any videos, I do get them at the beginning but not every video and then I can skip ad after a few seconds. So they don't show up during. When I use chrome it's a complete nightmare.

[@fennoqueven]

I truly appreciate the calm demeanour in these videos - we're just here to enjoy what cool people are doing with tech.

[@bbloggins8490]

Thank you for reviewing the CutiePi tablet Jeff, I've been looking forward to receiving my Kickstarter for quite some time. The upgrades to the CM4 module made it a much more worthwhile project indeed. I had high hopes regarding the custom interface they were building, and you've satisfied my curiosity about that. I picked up the RasPad, and while it's very satisfying, it is a bit large. That being said, Linux on the tablet has finally arrived. Ubuntu 20.10 with a couple of Gnome tweaks is a dream on the RasPad. Ubuntu Budgie 21.04 is pretty solid as well.

[@RuffianSoldier]

"Oh no I'm stuck in vim!" im dead

[@JeffGeerling]

25:13 ;)

[@stevepoling]

Getting stuck in vim cemented my decision to use emacs decades ago

[@CristianConsonni]

Didn't notice that! LOL!

[@MrGoatflakes]

Escape :q! sudo arch install emacs :P

[@supermaster2012]

@@MrGoatflakes Escape, ZZ It's not that hard...

[@oliverpolden]

Being able to swap the compute module is a massive YES! I would love a high end version of this where I would keep the main system for say 15 years and upgrade the compute module say every 3 years.

[@gustavrsh]

I wish the screen was bigger, it would be a neat PDF reader for textbooks. E ink tablets are ideal but most aren't big enough for textbooks

[@parkerlreed]

Pinetab soon

[@ebouwman034]

@@parkerlreed I think its going to take quite a long time to develop the UI and stuff for those to the point where they're even barely usable. Hopefully I'm just being overly pessimistic though because the idea of the pinetab sounds awesome.

[@Darenz-cg9zg]

Wouldn't it be great to have a tablet with a transparent screen and an e ink display behind it? Good performance when using the normal display, then switch to the ink display and the battery will last for days.

[@punkdigerati]

@@Darenz-cg9zg some smart watches have been built that way. If you were clever you could use a edge mounted LCD backlight as the e-inks front light.

[@fishyang2453]

wow I have same wish. A linux base, E ink and DIY tablet

[@objection_your_honor]

They should expand the heat-sink plate to 4x the current size, instead of plastic stiffener ribs they currently have. Also, there is plenty of room for that speaker behind the power switch.

[@karehaqt]

You should apply for a job to work as an engineer at Raspberry Pi, you sound like you've built one of these before.

[@jm036]

Put in a fan as well and OC as far as it can. Or just put in a SOQuartz.

[@wuokawuoka]

Or they could use the room where the handle is anchored for better speakers. Edit: OH HW is Open Source as well. There is no way stopping us to do something anyway.

[@EmyrDerfel]

@@jeremiahbullfrog9288 OC=overclock. SOQuartz is a Pine64 product.

[@supermaster2012]

@@jeremiahbullfrog9288 they can't without going through FCC certification. Alluminium backed devices are required to obtain additional certification to prove they will not burn the user's lap.

[@locusf2]

Wow, I did something like this with SailfishOS and Nemo Mobile back in 2015. Raspberry Pi 2 of course but the tablet experience was there and the multitasking aspect of a real tablet/mobile-made OS is really good. Might pick this up at some point to refresh some old memories :)

[@grifter77]

Thanks Jeff! Great review. I've been watching this project since before the kickstarter was launched, and am very keen to see it finally ship. I love the idea of a repairable, open-source tablet that leverages the Raspberry pi community. It is certainly difficult to compare to other consumer tablets since it is thicker, heavier, slower and buggier than other tablets at the same price point. But the fully open hardware and software ecosystem is a huge advantage that those other tablets can't match : I have a few older tablets that would still be perfectly useful today if they still had software support, but sadly they do not. One gotcha is that there are no PGIOs available, so this does't quite fill the same niche as the RasPad. I'm not sure yet if I will buy one of these, but I feel like it wouldn't take too much to sway the balance in favour of the cutiepi. If version 2 be a bit lighter while rocking a 9 inch 1920x1200 display and staying the same price, then i'd be in! I guess the main issue is that a low-volume, niche manufacturer can't compete on price with the big players. I feel like Raspberry Pi could release their own product in this space that could close that gap. In the meantime, I just might buy one of these in the new year - it would still fill some niches that my Pi4+nexdock does not, and I'm sick of buying hardware that loses software support in just a few short years.

[@epiren]

Just got the email this morning to pre-order. Estimated delivery by June. Can't wait to put it through its paces.

[@kamilk]

It screams for 18650 batteries compartment right in the handle (or at the edge of device) leaving much more space for motherboard and IO ports at the same time.

[@dereketnyre7156]

I pre-ordered the CutiePi like a year ago. Nice to see it will actually be shipped….

[@JeffGeerling]

Honestly with the way the past year's gone for hardware projects, getting it shipped at all will be a victory (IMO). I've seen too many projects where they just give up after a few months of delays. I'm hopeful all the backers will get their units by the end of the year!

[@forbiddenera]

I was thinking please be open source please be open source.. Did not disappoint!

[@RetrospektiveAudio]

Would have been cool if they added the 40-pin GPIO header and a M.2 pcie slot. Then it would be an ideal device for hardware debugging assistance.

[@JD96893]

this is a really cool product! I hope they succeed! I cant wait to see what they and the community do with this! Its a bit on the pricey side though imo.

[@daveansell1970]

A version with some gpio broken out would be brilliant for playing with hardware on the move and open up lots of other interesting use cases with sensors, or using it as an oscilloscope etc etc

[@howardlund7669]

Couldn't you hook it up to a low end Pi for that?

[@daveansell1970]

@@howardlund7669 yeah, but that is more money and more junk (particularly cables) to carry around and Fit on a train table.

[@quitplayinsush]

Hope I get mine soon! Backed this back in mid-August of 2020 and feels like I've been waiting for this forever, but was able to muster up a bit more patience after they announced the upgrade to CM4 (initially was to have CM3). Heard they'll be going out November, so hoping the issues you encountered are sorted out by the time I have it in hand! :)

[@Ivan.Atanasov.]

Is it just me to see the handle as a perfect 18650 housing place for battery expansion

[@legokenobi1185]

It would also add more weight to the handle in stand mode, which would make it more stable

[@pogsee]

Lenovo did the same with their Yoga Tab series. And they had great battery life.

[@tempest_dawn]

Oh hey, I've been looking for a tablet sort of thing to use as a HomeAssistant kiosk in our kitchen - this looks perfect for that!

[@bufordmaddogtannen]

Nice chunky device. :) I'd buy it, although the weight could be a problem (I have a fire hd 10 that weights that much and it's a pain to use). I'd not say "it's a raspberry pi" to justify performance though, I'd say "it's a software issue" since plenty of old dual and quad core android phones have better performance when using KZbin due to better optimized software and drivers.

[@alexatkin]

Agreed. That performance looks no better than my Pi 2 which makes no sense as the hardware has dramatically improved.

[@mezzochrome1683]

Looks pretty nice! My teeth grind a little at the camera bump, but the handle makes up for it.

[@JeffGeerling]

Everyone's doing a camera bump these days :D

[@ricdintino9502]

Did you see the pics of Steve Buscemi passing out candy on Halloween dressed as his "fellow kids" character? He's sporting a gray beard though.

[@fredrik241]

Seems like really developed custom OS 'overlay' software. Impressive the work that's gone into this!

[@JeffGeerling]

Their keyboard impressed me the most of all-it's actually a pretty darn good implementation compared to many of the custom keyboards that are developed for Linux touchscreens. And they're rapidly improving it too!

[@elektron2kim666]

Many people don't realize what we can do with ports. It's a beautiful something for Raspberry Pi stuff. I wish I started earlier. I just got 2 Pico's from China and planning on putting together a 3rd RPi 3 B. I just learned a whole lot about power bank issues which turned into something interesting and useful.

[@shanemitchellspencer]

If the cost was right, this could be a great kids tablet.

[@JasperJanssen]

Even if it cost a quarter of what it actually does, it’s still not a better kids tablet than a 50 dollar kindle fire.

[@Darenz-cg9zg]

@@JasperJanssen I'd love to be able to get my kids used to linux. Don't have any yet, but I might adopt some, and this would also be great for teaching them some programming.

[@jbritain]

I don't think it would serve the right purpose - running their games and shitty KZbin videos

[@JasperJanssen]

@@Darenz-cg9zg I mean, for an older child that’s getting ready to customize their stuff - maybe. But when I see “kids tablet” I think ‘KZbin terminal with maybe a game or two”. I got my Model B secondhand from grandad when he upgraded to the A3000, which would have been when in 1989 when I was 10, and somewhere around 10-12 this would be a nice experimenter platform for many kids. “Kids tablet” for me is more the 6-8 age range where you’re lucky if they watch Let’s Play videos of programming adjacent games.

[@redace001]

Red Shirt Jeff needs to make an all metal back plate for maximum heat dissipation! ;P

[@JeffGeerling]

brb just going off to buy a cnc :D

[@MrGoatflakes]

@@JeffGeerling pft. Buy a good set of aviation snips, a set of files and drill with a step bit. That's all you need to make a metal backplate :P

[@christopherleadholm6677]

I would LOVE to work on getting a stable image made for that thing... that would be awesome! Working on that, myself. Nice coffee cup too, Jeff! I have the same one! ;-)

[@smoscar]

Why wasn't it called PiPad

[@michael7738]

Apple lawyers are surely waiting for this to happen with a smile on their faces.

[@minigpracing3068]

This is probably stupid, but I'd really like an RJ45 for wired ethernet.

[@edschaller3727]

RJ45 does force a minimum thickness but can be very nice with spotty wifi. If they added RJ45 I'd really hope they'd add POE as well. There now exist USB OTG ethernet NICs that also do POE so you get both power and net with one connector on say a RPI 0. I'm a little sad that the USB C is just power and hence no host or client USB. Still, I'm stoked.

[@minigpracing3068]

@@edschaller3727 an X jack type of "folding" rj45 could be used. And if present POE power would also be useful. Would certainly add a bunch of cost, but could be a nice portable network tool.

[@edschaller3727]

@@minigpracing3068 I'm too hard on stuff. I'd just break an X jack. The cost and parts required for POE make such an addition not viable for the larger audience. The OTG route is probably the best bet for such a tool. At least there is a all in one adapter for that now instead of needing a powered OTG adapter, USB NIC and a POE spliter to do the same thing;)

[@jocramkrispy305]

​@@edschaller3727 There are those quirky trapdoor RJ45 ports that Dell use....

[@backslash777]

That UI reminds me of my old Nokia N810 tablet. Those were the days. I'm happy to see something like this slowly appearing again

[@edschaller3727]

Initial reaction: ah man, version 2 has a cm4 but I did the original kick starter so will get a CM3....actually goes and looks at kickstarter after months...Woah! V1 is now a CM4. Awesome!

[@mattparker9726]

well what CAN replace a modern high end tablet? Lets make one Jeff!

[@fred-youtube]

The jingpad once they fix the lag

[@Cyril29a]

This seems like. a spiritual successor to the OLPC>

[@bigwave_dave8468]

It's got a ways to go for that .. Original OLPC ergo design is a tour de force of great design but sadly hobbled by an anemic processor. i have one I've been meaning to upgrade to Pi.

[@wisteela]

This really has huge potential.

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

But I can run normal desktop apps...right?

[@JeffGeerling]

Yes-anything that runs on Linux should run fine here, as long as there's an arm64 build!

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

@@JeffGeerling Well then it's already BETTER than an iPad.

[@redfox9239]

@@JeffGeerling arm64? Shoot. I bet people would've loved to run widevine on this - that's one of a tablet's primary uses after all

[@ToddChevrier]

"Reading things is hard" - Jeff Geerling ...Famous last words

[@Tall_Order]

[ comes in wearing a smart watch, google glasses, and holding a blackberry ] How do you do fellow tech geeks!

[@Iron_Maniac]

This seems like it'd be very good for running an Octopi instance for 3d printing. Especially if the camera works with it.

[@JonnieZuramski]

You look like a younger, better looking Steve Buscemi. When that clip came up I laughed so hard.

[@declanmcardle]

The handle makes it look like a Speak'n'Spell... 🙂

[@KashiusFresco]

"THAT IS CORRECT" -Speak 'N Spell 🤓

[@keyr3733]

Ah, I'm so glad to see 400 and Pipad! As soon as SteamOS gets to the market we will have a huge change in program (game) development towards linux! It means that we could game on Pi5 with huge amount of non hardware demanding games! What a time to be alive!

[@alexatkin]

Even if Linux gaming gets more popular, I can't see developers porting to Arm in a hurry. Though maybe Apple Silicon will make that slightly more appealing. But honestly, most games are to heavy even for Apple Silicon, I think you're being rather optimistic about what kind of GPU power the Pi5 will have.

[@octothorpian_nightmare]

I really dig this thing, would be really handy around the shop with that handle/stand. I kluged together a Pi4 with an old laptop display, which required a DC/DC and an HDMI->TTL display driver from eBay, but after all that I don't even have touch and I need a keyboard (dust magnet) to go with it. I'd likely pair it to my Ikea bluetooth speaker rather than using the internal speaker.

[@laurentpouig7089]

Can't wait the next video about maybe a nas one ? Cheers from France ;)

[@JeffGeerling]

yes, it's going to be fun!

[@AdityaMehendale]

When I saw the handle, I thought - Wow - that is a neat hiding-spot for 18650 cylindrical cells. Fast forward to 19:45 >>DoH

[@JeffGeerling]

Gotta leave room for future upgrades!

[@sorinl8467]

This remaind me the old Lenovo Yoga tablet that hide on edge 3 cells 18650.

[@Gabi22top]

It's just so sad the performance of the compute module 4 with an UI 🥺 when I clicked on the video I was hoping a better experience. Cool project, I hope a more powerful compute module will be released next year

[@questionablecommands9423]

Hm. This might be the perfect little device to bounce between the 3D printer and the CNC machine.

[@brainfreeze7979]

When my Grandad was 65 he started running a mile a day to keep fit... He's now 70 and we have no idea where he is. I wondered why the frisbee was getting bigger... Then it hit me!

[@DaVince21]

That UI actually looks so slick, I'm really hoping the software side of this takes on a life of its own on all sorts of hardware. I'd like that on a Surface Pro in tablet mode or on a Steam Deck for example. If it functions as a custom desktop environment, I'm sure the things mentioned about integrating other "apps" will actually be easy since you could consider each tab to be its own window running its own Linux native application.

[@tcnymex]

Does that handle fold flat against the back of the tablet? 'Cuz if it doesnt, it's go'nna be difficult to stick in a jacket pocket.

[@JeffGeerling]

No, it only folds to the degree you see in the thumbnail.

[@benholroyd5221]

I think you're supposed to clip it on a lanyard. Or just hold it on your shoulder in full ghetto blaster stylee.

[@arch1107]

a shame it doesn't have a ethernet port, could be great for people diagnosing networks or fixing stuff on their home speakers in the back are a fail, we need those at the front, sides perhaps, but one in the back no, there is space to put them inside the carrying handle stand part, is empty, two speakers there facing front looks so doable now that you mention open source, well, if cm5 uses the same connector, theoretically would be just remove cm4 and put cpu5, perhaps?

[@JeffGeerling]

That's my hope!

[@rednassie1101]

I can see startups use these as a tablet as an interface for their product, supercool!

[@seanfaherty]

Might be great for portable network testing. Like Nethunter for Android.

[@denastewart-gore800]

Hopefully, they can get it up to par with an iPad. It sounds pretty good.

[@xXKilUmaXx]

This has potential for home kitchen management.

[@brz757]

I loved my Nokia N800 back in the day. Thing was like witchcraft, could Skype and surf anywhere. This kind of reminds me of that with that interface.

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

3:22 Perfect for viewing your own KZbin channel!

[@VHSBits]

"..the Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 that powers it." - I guess that rules out us latecomers then 😑

[@JeffGeerling]

It comes with one! Unfortunately like the CM4, this thing is on backorder :/

[@RichardBronosky]

They really ought to make an aluminum back plate an option for heat dissipation.

[@martkt10]

You mean the CM4's you can't buy ?

[@JeffGeerling]

Apparently CutiePi's been able to secure enough for their shipping units-so in a sense, buying a CutiePi is one way to break through the shortage and get a CM4 😄

[@robertp1889]

Jeff Jeff Jeff :) use this pick right :) I can't wait :) - Regards from Poland

[@KiraSlith]

I'm not getting who this is for. It's a $230 Raspberry Pi 4 with no GPIO, so it's not for the Linux obsessives, DIY addicts, or STEM educators. Too expensive for a dedicated emulation machine of it's grunt (especially with the MiSTer project around). Too custom to daily drive unless you're the kind of person who writes all their own software. Too expensive to just use as a monitoring display when we all have old Android tablets and phones otherwise destined for the landfill. Lastly, and it can't even act as a video calling device. Why does it exist as a product right now, in this market?

[@bitstuffing3077]

It's a good review, I think CutiePie is a really good tablet for his proposal, and also, "opensource" with a RaspberryPi community support, but, two important things: - Comparing it with ipad... is insane, why? compare it with an Android tablet and... CutiePie doesn't work with Android, but use a kernel "Linux" based tablet for that xD (remember BQ Ubuntu Touch tablet and other Ubuntu Touch devices) - Touch and screen support in other distributions are... not enough, but... you could try to develop drivers and support the project but it's not the main public people 😢 I think it's a good idea, but needs more software and support to get a really good work, I want a RaspberryPi tablet because I want to use RaspberryPi Distributions for all days of my life, not just take a RaspberryPi tablet with 2 operative systems (default and Ubuntu)

[@alexruedi1995]

8:48 720p video on 720p display... works well but like.. not on full screen. it will show the 720p video on like half the 720p display? what is wrong with you? and no, it doesn't seem to work well. It looks laggy, even in the demo.

[@hellofyou]

Mentioning right to repair, that you want to support that but then still constantly mentioning apple products which are the biggest fighters against right to repair.... I know your cheap excuse is that you "have these apple devices at hand" but as long as you keep apple devices around and compare them with other devices i can not see how you are serious about those things.

[@shashankks1962]

Nice product actually. "Shutup and Take my money" meme fits here. But a lot of improvements is possible in terms of design choices.

[@hyperspeed1313]

The camera seems to be the only strange/bizarre choice - the sensor is oriented so it's portrait when the display is landscape (and vice versa) so you can't fill the display with the sensor output

[@moonrock41]

I predict that it won't be long before devices like this will be comparable in performance to iPads right now. Probably a few years...maybe sooner.

[@shadowbanned3716]

this kinda opened my eyes to just how much goes into making these seemingly flawless devices that we use everyday.

[@englishrupe01]

I just bought an "as new" Chromebook for $50 that will run Linux, and this is......$200?

[@ruijieyu9035]

17:30 Thank you so much for actually showing that you need to press down the cm4 onto the board. For the life of me I could figure out why my board didn’t work and was about to give up.

[@nekomasteryoutube3232]

I bet you could 3D print a new back for the tablet to incorperate maybe a piece of alumnium as a heat sink that'll contact the SOC and be exposed on the other side to the air for a bit of heat dissipation. Than again I'm no pro with this stuff so it's probably a bad idea or something XD

[@flojotube]

I’d like to “piggyback” on your idea by saying that for anyone who DOESNT MIND a 50%-100% GIRTH INCREASE TO THIS, they could EASILY design EITHER: 1. An entirely new shell to incorporate the following….. 2. A “piggyback” module to incorporate the following… The added girth/thickness could EASILY enclose another 20,000+ MAH of FLAT LIPO BATTERIES - Added heat dissipation - And added WHATEVER - I’m surprised someone hasn’t already drawn options up for this. The unit looks to be about 1/2” thick as it is… maybe 3/8”…. So who would REALLY CARE if it even jumped to 1 FULL INCH…? I wouldn’t if I could expand this things abilities by 4-5X… Plus, many people PREFER a more substantial device that will remind them to handle it with the respect it deserves. I don’t have the ability to CREATE any of this, but I do have the LiPo cells and the knowledge that this can VERY EASILY be done… so I figured I’d share, hoping someone picks it up and runs with it.

[@YeeLeeHaw]

@@flojotube Man, that would be a thicc boy lol.

[@RobinLauren]

It has a handle that doubles as a stand ... so it is a *standle!*

[@jyvben1520]

ended with a "evan & katelyn" vibe, words are hard ...

[@dave0connor356]

Love your videos even though I have no idea about most of everything you mention, got me learning about raspberry pi's and arduino's again

[@jasongooden917]

That's how i feel when i watch Louis Rossmann

[@make.and.believe]

What a fantastic device! I've been using VNC to port into my Linux machines to do (any serious) work on my iPad when necessary, which was FINALLY possible after the IpadOS upgrade that enabled (clunky) mouse support. This is a real Linux tablet that runs my OS of choice (Ubuntu). I'm a bit amazed. Especially with the potential for continuous upgrades. This is really cool. 8gb of RAM (assuming a compute module upgrade) is really all I need for most of the software I use. Although 16gb would be ideal for 3d rendering software like Blender. This device has lots of potential as the Pi family tree grows...

[@Un_Pour_Tous]

I can see why android makes it so you can't root. Ads are people too lol

[@skewty]

Fail! That aspect ratio is terrible for everything except movie watching.

[@PixelisedPaul]

Compute module 5 is going to transform devices like this I think

[@theakatsuki2113]

It should be more thinner and faster

[@Dorff_Meister]

An m.2 port for SSD would have been REALLLY nice and I might have replaced my OctoPrint pi with this.

[@JeffGeerling]

They could probably fit a short one on here. Or even full size if they rearrange things on the board a bit. The PCIe bus is otherwise unused in their current design, mostly because it was adapted from a CM3+ design that didn't have PCIe at all!

[@demonocolips]

would have been nice to see stereo speakers with proper resonance chambers.

[@neophytealpha]

Wouldn't mind a tablet using a full tablet from an 8G 4B+ with a 1T or larger M.2 drive, etc. You could build a higher end tablet from one.

[@zambonidriver42]

Shipping schedule? I can’t imagine the lead time on that STM32.

[@JeffGeerling]

It seems like the first batch is going to be shipping any day now, certainly within the next month. They said signs are good for another preorder to open up Q1 next year. I'm guessing they have enough supply of that chip... it's probably the CM4 that's giving the most fits in terms of availability.

[@jannoj9268]

I saw a TuringPi2 - HYPE

[@lemdixon01]

Thats what I want but I also want to be able to plug into a big screen, keyboard and mouse, so I can use it as a desktop PC with that functionality, which this has, so best of both worlds. Ideally I'd prefer it if it was a smaller screen the size of a phone to fit in my pocket, even if that makes it fat not slim.

[@UNVIRUSLETALE]

Amazing tablet for 2012, can't wait to see what 2021 brings us

[@nullmind]

Talking facts here

[@colddogs]

dangit, i wish i waited for this instead of going with the raspad 3

[@KameraShy]

I wish someone would come up with a board for the CM4 to convert old IBM Thinkpad's. Those things were build like tanks and the hardware still works great. But that hardware was so limited that they can only run very ancient software. 64MB RAM, 233MHz CPU, 4GB hard drives, USB 1.0, no Wifi, no Bluetooth, etc. Plenty of room inside, especially for cooling. Easy to open up. There must be a lot of the things still around, that haven't been dumped in the landfills. Yet.

[@littlebit670]

If you had a way to put another OS on that thing, may maybe try putting Manjaro ARM with GNOME on it. It works quite well with my pi-top 4's touchscreen.

[@relt_]

can i replace the screen with an OLED?

[@escarolobueso]

Saludos desde Honduras.

[@pc66ghz]

No sabia que había mas gente que habla español

[@d3vastat0r89]

"Expensive iPad with its oleophobic coating" I have an iPad Air 4th Gen which I think was pretty expensive, but it doesn't seem to have that coating. It always looks like I was playing with food while using it.

[@awesomeferret]

Yet another Linux device that thinks it's OK to put an 800p screen on something like this. It's infuriating. Why do these people choose to make such horrible hardware? Why the heck would I ever get something like that over something like a Lenovo Legion Y700 when they both cost roughly the same? If this was 45 dollars, then it would be very compelling, but it's fallen into the stereotype of "hurrr dull, the way to get Linux adopted by the mainstream is to put it on objectively inferior hardware". HP learned this lesson the hard way with the webOS phones. I have to shame in stating that I'm offended by that objectively low res screen. Again, why would I ever consider paying that much money? At that point, you should be getting a 2013 Nexus 7 and putting Ubuntu Touch on it for a significantly cheaper and superior Linux tablet experience. When there are mobile Linux devices that are actually better than 5 year old ewaste (and that's not even hyperbolic, due to the reasons above) then I'll get excited. I'm very disappointed that you didn't have much to say about the horrible screen. I just shouldn't have to see pixels on mobile device where people have been literally throwing away 1440p smartphones for nearly a DECADE. 1080p is outdated, and it's not even 1080p! Amazingly absurd.

[@dave_dennis]

I don’t know how anyone can ship hardware right now. My hardware business is on life support because I can’t get components. The least available part in my BOM is an STM32F103. Impossible to get unless you’re willing to take a risk on counterfeit silicon. My morals won’t allow me to do that. So my hat is off to them for finding a way to ship right now.

[@JeffGeerling]

They've definitely been hit by the delays but they also started sourcing components over a year ago (probably some even earlier than that!). for new hardware projects I'd pad any time estimate by a year or two. Sadly, that's been killing many interesting projects lately because you can't spin up a product then sit on it for a year!

[@featherpony]

How to convert your Pi 4 into a tablet from 2010. I don't think people get what the Pi is (or isn't) for. This is like duct taping a lawnmower engine to a bicycle and calling it a motorcycle.

[@benholroyd5221]

Or maybe you don't get that some people like the idea of bolting a lawnmower engine to a bicycle?

[@Сверхпроводник-г1п]

Это очень интересное устройство.Модульность,открытый исходный код,доступ к полной электронной схеме узлов.Возможность добавлять те или иные функции и новые узлы.Только вот корпуса для таких устройств надо делать из более прочных и стабильных материалов.Чтобы устройство было не только удобным но и надёжным,интересно как бы выглядело сочетание углепластика и алюминия анодированного...Заднюю крышку точно надо делать из металла чтобы отводить тепло от процессора и добавить хотя бы одну тепло проводящую трубку испаритель.Ещё поработать с эффективностью питания чтобы продлить время работы от одной зарядки и не изнашивать аккумулятор слишком быстро.