Finally Congress Demands Immediate Starship Launch Approval from FAA!, SpaceX to Sue FAA!

[@scientia_plus]

00:00 Starship Updates 08:41 FAA Fines SpaceX for Breaking Rules! Elon Musk Reacted 11:14 China's Game-Changing Rocket: The Zhuque-3 Just Took a Giant Leap! Learn More: 1. Starship V2 Features: a. Design Improvements Update 1: shorturl.at/lpGT7 b. Design Improvements Update 2: shorturl.at/gwNQ4 c. Nosecone & Payload Bay Redesign: shorturl.at/xa60S d. Methane Downcomer Redesign: shorturl.at/XdYBG 2. Starship V3 Features: shorturl.at/mnBT4 3. Starship V2, V3 & Raptor V2, V3 Complete 2024 Update: shorturl.at/tN248 4. Raptor V3 Mega Upgrades & First Test: shorturl.at/TRIyj 5. Latest Starship Upgrades a. Starship Hot Staging Explained: shorturl.at/jf400 b. Super Heavy Booster Upgrades: shorturl.at/Pi5R3 c. How SpaceX Protect Raptor Engines: shorturl.at/4Om8F d. Starship New Heat Tiles Explained: shorturl.at/p2Ijb 6. B14.1 Booster Catch Test #1 Explained: shorturl.at/w0zDU 7. B14.1 Booster Catch Test #2 Explained: shorturl.at/mSqCO 8. Tower Arms Catch Simulation Tests: shorturl.at/TeMOY 7. CNBC's Starship Allegations and SpaceX's Response: shorturl.at/Z2WCb 9: Starship License Delayed to November By FAA, SpaceX Explained Why the Allegations are False: shorturl.at/U7OFV 10. Risks and Rewards: Encouraging Commercial Space Innovation While Maintaining Public Safety: shorturl.at/Qj0XT Weekly Updates: bit.ly/3HIQjPC SpaceX Playlist: bit.ly/34wue8T Consider Supporting on Patreon: www.patreon.com/scientiaplus Facebook Page: facebook.com/scientiaplus

[@terrycombs736]

Elon Musk will become the ne Governmental Efficiency Officer upon Trumps reelection. Is the FAA so naive they're going to insult the incoming "Inspector General" of the entire Gov't? Way to ensure intense focus into your dept. FAA. Could you be more ignorant?

[@DieterMaier-r6k]

FAA is a joke company. They better investigate the safety of Boeing!!! And not bird-nest at Starbase!

[@jiglesiasrc]

FAA is full of crap. The should bu taken out of their positions, and dismissed.

[@TheRealestHi]

This is the problem with putting Democrat crime cartel operatives in charge of the FAA. And allowing them to populate its ranks. The agency is obviously politicized.

[@danielch6662]

Boeing is screwing up. The whole country is dependent on SpaceX. Therefore the FAA should get out of the way and let SpaceX regulate itself. Right? Right? I guess this answers the question we all had been wondering. _How did we get into a position where the FAA allowed Boeing to regulate itself, in order to speed up regulatory approval for developing new tech?_ It is totally different this time. Because SpaceX is not Boeing. For now! 🤦 PS: Elon is deliberately being difficult here to score political points. Or to blame somebody else. Because he knows Starship and HLS is years behind schedule. If Starship was ready to launch the first week of August, why did he wait until mid-August before sending the submissions to the FAA for the modifications? He should have sent it in in June.

[@patricklewis7636]

Lol, no.

[@tedoptional-p8l]

At least some Bureaucrats should be dismissed, just the stupid ones.

[@per619]

Every other space company--Boeing, Lockheed, MCD-- has thrown away every booster as long as space flight existed. Suddenly FAA is worried about just a booster ring?

[@williamgrimberg2510]

If the ring lands in shallow water it will turn into a reef like the sunken ships they use for reef building.

[@BLACKBOX2TURK]

I wonder what's cheaper to recover and reuse or to remake another one , cause that would be a lot of material.

[@TheBigExclusive]

Two Questions: 1. Is the FAA enforcing the same rules with companies like Boeing or Blue Origin? 2. Did the FAA ever go this hard with the US Space shuttle or Apollo Program?

[@vincentdargere]

Right. I remember that wildlife around Cape Canaveral was never a reason to delay the Space Shuttle launches, and it was a known fact and that’s all. I remember that time when a frog had found itself on the external tank right before a launch and no one made a fuss of it.

[@victorj9582]

@@vincentdargereSpace shuttle hit like 10 birds on launch 💀

[@vincentdargere]

Exactly.

[@kwichzwellbreck697]

No flights possible - no license needed =)

[@billweberx]

SpaceX moves at a faster innovation pace than either Boeing or Blue Origin. The FAA can't keep up.

[@woutgaming9685]

Wait hold on, FAA wanna know the impact from hot staging ring? Did they forget every single other rocket gets either burnt up or dumped somewhere in the ocean and yet a hot stage ring (which is not a permanent solution) is a big problem? Wtf did they have for breakfast!?

[@gregtroublemaker1862]

No shit! My thoughts exactly! Just goes to prove, it's all over politics

[@warrenwhite9085]

This FAA has political malice for breakfast, like the rest of this administration.

[@jeetenzhurlollz8387]

they had food paid for by ULA , bezos etc for breakfast.

[@lanzer22]

If the FAA don't do anything, Boeing's gonna go under, and who will provide their leaders with retirement positions in the future? This revolving door need to stop, people like Ali Bahrami should never had been allowed back to the FAA.

[@danielch6662]

Whether the Starship launches or not, it doesn't affect Boeing. How does it affect Boeing. Exactly. Starliner is a separate contract. Whether Starship launches or not, it does not affect Starliner's timeline.

[@dennisbrantley6925]

Why is the FAA doing the EPA's job. It seems the FAA is over stepping its authority.

[@Mrbfgray]

More of the same from this Administration, lawfare has been rampant since Twitter was freed.

[@warrenwhite9085]

The FAA’s sole mandate is to protect the public, passengers & bystanders from aviation/space vehicles crashing. Starship is unmanned, flies over the ocean, SpaceX has an incredibly good record. This administration weaponizes government, regulation, agencies & justice to persecute, harass, obstruct political opponents. The DEI FAA is happy to comply.

[@geraldscott4302]

Why does the EPA even exist? And why is the FAA involved in rocket launches at all? It's the Federal AVIATION Agency. Its job is to regulate AIRPLANES. NASA should regulate rocket launches.

[@warrenwhite9085]

@@dennisbrantley6925 FAA DEI hire heads commercial flight.

[@bigianh]

They are not they are getting them involved because the changes to the license involve the EPA and are beyond the FAA's remit hence they are handing over to the EPA who's remit it is.

[@MichaelCarriger]

If safety drives everything at the FAA; why is Boeing still flying??

[@altoidd]

not a word!! poor people left in space!!!!

[@tonymc-dx8xw]

No fines for unsafe spacecraft for Boeing. SpacX uses a new control room without FAA aproval 1 year ago just got fined with no problems.

[@scavenger888]

FAA is a joke.

[@mikegardner107]

@@altoiddStuck in space doing the job they are very well trained for. Suni has previously spent many hours aboard the ISS and made at least two space walks doing maintenance on the ISS. Neither astronaut will be complaining much about their unexpected opportunity to record more working time aboard the ISS. Yes, Boeing messed up badly. The FAA needs to shut them down.

[@bigianh]

@@altoidd Poor people left in space???? Pffft they trained for years for this! They are having the time of their lives, I just feel sorry for the 2 crew of Crew 9 who got bumped and might never actually fly.

[@timreed353]

Waiting to see if the FAA gives Blue Origin the same scrutiny and delays in approving launch licenses.

[@nightlightabcd]

BO has not done anything to be to be subject to the FAA!

[@ganymede6535]

​@@nightlightabcdcorrect. The reason why they arent going to get fined is for 2 reasons. BO hasnt gotten into orbit and because they have a lot of lawyers

[@lanzer22]

Heh, BO is moving so low that they'll always get a license in time. :)

[@danielch6662]

​@@lanzer22well, if you submit your application early, you get your license early. The FAA is literally bending over backwards to help Elon. But he is determined to cause problems for them. Starship was ready to launch in the first week of August. But the application to modify the license was only sent in in mid-August. Why didn't they send it in in June? Why didn't they launch under they old multiple launch license they still had?

[@ganymede6535]

@@danielch6662 the reason why they didnt use the old license like in IFT-4 is due to the change in trajectory of the booster. For example the booster will make sonic booms

[@peten6445]

These fools hate that Elon supports Trump. The FAA is embarrassing.

[@stephensfarms7165]

That’s it. ‼️‼️‼️

[@Wirmish]

Elon voted for Clinton, Obama, Biden ... and they didn't support Musk. In fact, Musk will vote for Trump because the Democrat "Elites" pushed Musk away.

[@mervstash3692]

Starship would have never launched the first 4 times if the FAA had not bent the rules.

[@ericstyles3724]

yup Elon has sooo much money he's bankrolling a minimum of $45 M per month of Trumps flatlining campaign.

[@ericstyles3724]

​@@mervstash3692True Story for sure !!..

[@uuzd4s]

The Federal Aviation Administration is NOT the Federal Space Administration, just like the U.S. Air Force is Not the U.S. Space Force. The FAA are specialists in Air travel and the Public Safety associated w/ this type of travel. Comparing Space travel to Air travel is like comparing NASCAR Racing to Deep Sea Diving in Submarines. Break off whoever is a Space travel specialist @ the FAA & give them some help from NASA Administrators and form a Much more efficient Federal Agency dedicated to Space Travel Only. It could be named the FSA. Making a Government Regulatory Agency more efficient is Easy because of the inefficiency they're known for. A lesson from the Private sector would make a Huge difference for this agency. Allowing Government Agencies to police themselves is a recipe for more inefficiency, time and costs.

[@danielch6662]

Well, if your spaceship travels in space only. But if you want your vehicle, whatever you call it, spaceship/airplane/balloon/etc, if you want to fly it in the atmosphere, the FAA it is. Makes sense, no? Were don't want space planes to collide with air planes.

[@Salvation001]

your federal Goverment is controled by the sinagogue of Satan..

[@uuzd4s]

@@danielch6662 That's how the Coast Guard operates, they have jurisdiction over your boat the moment you untie it from the dock, just as they approve Splashdown. Let the FAA determine if the airspace above is clear for Launch & return, but leave the Regulations surrounding the Rocket up to an Agency who understands Space Travel & the machines that get you there.

[@GntlTch]

@@uuzd4s Exactly how it works now for DOD and NASA regulated launches - FAA only ensures clear airspace for the launch and return.

[@uuzd4s]

@@GntlTch Thats Good News. The more the DOD gets their fingers into the SpaceX pie the better imho. They will help "cut the mustard" when it comes to regulators that seem to Flail w/ their lack of experience in Space Programs. The FAA was born out of a love for flying by Pilots, you can't say the same for their Space Program regulatory branch, if it even exists. Divide & Conquer, give the FAA the help, experience & resources needed to form an FSA & they Will be more efficient. NASA Administrators would be a Gr8 place to start for streamlining the FAA's Space Program regulators.

[@thembijan]

Safety is there focus. Where was the focus when Boeing killed over 400 people with there max aircraft. Where was there focus when doors are flying off aircraft and where was there focus with starliner?

[@nguyep4]

Is all safty concerns the same? There is no class of safty? Minor, medium, major, etc? What is the safty? How long should it take to review the impact? They can always throw the word safty when it is convenient. "It is for your own safety. Do not leave your home after 9pm."

[@Wirmish]

They also killed 2 whistleblowers. They don't give a fu__.

[@chrisbraswell8864]

Biden hates Elon does that explain it all.

[@chriscox1270]

Enough is enough - politically motivated - sue the bastards big time ! Totally ridiculous

[@dwightpierce9973]

The focus of FAA is extortion and delay., , NO substitute factors for delay.

[@hankb7077]

Why does this delay smell of Bezos and the Dems??

[@openwrtguru247]

It's. That's suck.

[@mervstash3692]

Because you have your tin foil hat on. From a fellow righty

[@cscs9192]

Establishment

[@great5grace]

FAA = DemonRats ?

[@The_Crazy_Monkey75]

SpaceX adding 3 more pcs of screws to secure the flaps will require modification of license causing 3 months of delays. Very efficient indeed.

[@mervstash3692]

Yeah you know that's not what he meant champ. Remember your iterative process thing? That's a bit more than a few screws.

[@ingridhohmann3523]

Ridiculous!!!!!

[@Quakeboy02]

They call it a fine, but let's face it, it's an illegal tax.

[@Workingcinderellaman-jw2pf]

The FAA reminds me of Walter Peck from the movie Ghostbusters.

[@jtjames79]

I can confirm, the FAA is indeed dickless.

[@charlescole-p9v]

FAA should step aside !

[@nightlightabcd]

Elon should step aside, abide by the rules instead of constantly overstepping what was approved!

[@ganymede6535]

When a launch got delayed for 2 months because of a piece of metal that is going to land somewhere else and there are whole ass rocket boosters bigger than said piece of metal being dumped anywhere and elon is the one to step aside doesnt make since​@@nightlightabcd

[@billweberx]

@@nightlightabcd SpaceX does rapid innovations which is how they got to where they are. The FAA needs to keep up with the SpaceX pace.

[@BenediktusJebagung]

FAA must do something like Elon does.i feel like FAA above all innovation while Elon does everything according to his ability and inisiative that give more useful to others.

[@danielch6662]

​​@@billweberxElon is making this problem occur deliberately. His cult is too blind and stupid to see it. If Starship was ready to launch in the first week of August, why did he wait until mid-August to submit the application for the modifications to the license. He should have done it in June. They modified and built the new version of Starship in two months, and obviously they had the new design and therefore all the info relevant to submit to the FAA before they started building. But they waited until Starship was ready to launch before sending the application to the FAA. My guess is they are deliberately causing the delay. It is 2 or 3 months tops. And it was caused by SpaceX sitting on their hands and not giving the information to the FAA as early as possible, so that the new license would be ready as early as possible. The truth is, Starship is years behind schedule, and so is HLS. Elon knows that even delayed as SLS had been, it is nearly ready. And the reason Artemis would be delayed would be because of SpaceX's Starship and HLS not being ready. He is proactively getting in front of the news cycle to blame somebody else first before the delay gets laid at his door.

[@otiebrown9999]

FAA MINDLESS NIT PICKING.

[@warrenwhite9085]

The FAA’s obstruction/delay/harassment of SpaceX isn’t red-tape petty nitpicking… it’s administration directed political malice.

[@MathiasPetersen-oj3nj]

Vielleicht sollte in der FAA mal Frühjahrsputz gemacht werden und zugleich auch mal nachgeforscht werden vom wem sie alle bezahlt werden.😉😉😉

[@hoffbd1]

SpaceX should add the cost of those fines to the price of their next Falcon launches for the USG.

[@chrisbraswell8864]

x3

[@MaxKito2]

Open a Space X in China and they’ll get us to Mars in a year. Clearly FAA has a 🥩 beef with Space X and Elon.

[@patricklewis7636]

The FAA's beef is that they change their plans last minute so people don't have time to do a proper check. Musk is totally wrong here.

[@Wirmish]

Or in Russia.

[@editman145]

FAA has a TWO TIER POLICY : one for Democrats c.s. and one for the rest of the world!!!!!!! Yes..............THERE IS A LAWFARE against SpaceX going. The FAA is a minion of the Democrats and a perfecte instrument for LawFare.

[@davidclemens1578]

Sadly if they continue this Elon will move it to China. Or if Ukraine is able to win this conflict, they could move there because considering they've been able to hold off the Russians this long shows their amazing ability to improvise. That takes engineering and coordination. Apparently our government leaders don't believe in being number one or for that matter being great.

[@Stixn81]

FAA need a change in leader's and maybe staf.

[@chrisbraswell8864]

They are nearly all Democrats what do you expect.

[@outforbeer]

Safety drives everything then how is boeing able to operate or fly starliner

[@Mikexxx531]

Innovation in space activities is never safe. There always needs to be a balance between safe enough and innovation. Mars has access windows and the FAA is operating to prevent us being ready for those windows in time.

[@GntlTch]

Because it is still a NASA regulated launch/return. FAA won't take over until the Starliner is certified and goes commercial (if ever!).

[@outforbeer]

@@GntlTchwhy isnt starship under nasa regulation? Its still an experimental craft and starship has a moon mission under nasa contract

[@GntlTch]

@@outforbeer Unfortunately, I speculate that the Starliner was entirely a NASA initiated and funded project vs the Starship was initiated and funded by internally by SpaceX and has only a marginal HLS contract withNASA.

[@AJHyland63]

It is the same organisations complaining about the same things each time they launch. The FAA is asking for new environmental impact statements each launch. Does the hot staging ring drop within the 3 mile limit? If not, then it is outside US jurisdiction. Is there any noxious chemicals on the hot staging ring? Most probably not being a metal component with no working parts. Toxic residues from fuel? No. 2CH2 + O2 -> 2C + 2H2O basic high school chemistry. Sonic boom upon return? Cannot be worse than the sound of thunder or even the sound at launch and a much shorter duration. Mercury in the water? What component is discharging that mercury? Or is it a typo on the summary page that deeper reading of the report would prove wrong? A quick phone call to the independent testing company would solve that in 5 minutes. The FAA says it’s all about safety yet they allowed Boeing launch with a known problem with crew aboard. One begins to wonder if there is not some corruption inside the FAA from Blue Origin or ULA due to them not even being able to compete against a space ship that will make their efforts obsolete before they are ready to launch. In fact they allow ULA to launch single use rockets and I’m sure that a full rocket body falling back to earth has more pollutants than a returning reusable rocket. It seems that it is either corruption or a ploy to get a bigger budget out of the government. Either way neither is acceptable for slowing progress on SpaceX.

[@davidhimmelsbach557]

Methane is not CH2. Break open your old chemistry text books.

[@abel3557]

​@@davidhimmelsbach557point still stands. The combustion reaction of methane produces CO2 and water.

[@cannotsay5505]

FAA ending space flight over possible fish...total over reach END EPA now....

[@rogerrussell9544]

They don't care about the fish from the Kennedy space center swamps.

[@rock-bottom2023]

FAA = DEI. Enough said

[@nealmacdonald8191]

Safety, jealousy and hurt feeling are all about the FAA

[@ThomasTomiczek]

"We have civilians outperforming the US government" - THAT is the key here. The FAA is whining about too much work. Yeah, they actually COMMERCIALIZE space travel. Someone was sleeping.

[@AngieVicky1]

It’s all political. Elon endorsed the candidate they hate.

[@JeanJacquesNantel]

The FAA is getting on the nerves of a lot of people. The reasons given by the FAA are ridiculous. They say that they care primarily about safety. Safety of who? Spacex is on the coast! Safety of what? The safety of the jelly fishes?

[@spacecadet35]

Certainly not the safety of passengers on Boeing aircraft.

[@bobsemple1526]

Could delays be deliberate partisan, bureaucratic interference? Who would benefit from a Starship 5 launch delay? Who is Spacex in competition with? Who donates or provides $$$ to the regime? The FAA is a tombstone agency staffed and run by career bureaucrats and appointees doing the bidding of the regime and will run their "errands."

[@Bhoddisatva]

I think the government bureaus are just as obscure and obstructionist to Congress as they are to the companies they deal with. They like their comfy jobs and petty authority. Why tell outsiders anymore then they have too? Present 'perfect' operational reports to Congressional overseers for more cash when that time of year rolls around and lie their asses off the rest of the year.

[@mervstash3692]

Go on then, what's the answer? 😂😂

[@bobsemple1526]

@@mervstash3692 Indeed! If you have to ask... 🤣

[@mervstash3692]

@@Ray-dv1md lol go on then, try it.

[@WanderAbroad-pq5ph]

Interesting how the rules are carefully followed... for only select people. I've lost any confidence that "safety" rules mandated by any agency are there for our benefit.

[@ervinpalaciosllorente3347]

This will uncover who is behind FAA.

[@MichaelMiller-op8fe]

So when falcon nine does its next government satellite job Go ahead and charge the extra to cover the costs and move on, but in the meantime definitely sue them.

[@mengche4515]

FAA need some money

[@davidwalker5214]

For Boeing .

[@tonymc-dx8xw]

The Demicrat government hates Elon they are after all his businesses

[@susuhtwe7228]

My thought is same just give some money 💰 to that baldhead laziness 🥱🥱🥱

[@haydenwatson7987]

You can bet that Bezos would not have these problems. Lawfare at its finest.

[@davidwalker5214]

If I were Elon , I'd pack up the whole site , and yes it would be expensive , and move it . This is all politics , ever since Elon backed Trump .

[@jameswilson5165]

Move it.................................................................. where?🤣

[@leonidlukashevsky6487]

​@@jameswilson5165 he will be welcome ANYWHERE

[@BenediktusJebagung]

I think so

[@grahammukuyu4660]

​@@jameswilson5165move to an island in the international waters no one will get in their way

[@MrFredericandre]

@@jameswilson5165 Argentina

[@mrtjf99]

He supports the wrong presidential candidate and this is petty revenge

[@chrisbraswell8864]

Democrat, Liar and petty all go together.

[@alancadorette3447]

is EPA fining the weather for pollution?

[@chrisbraswell8864]

Yep the water run of from a storm is the fault of the property owner.

[@kingspeed2554]

Americans should act against the FAA.

[@sonnyburnett8725]

If America gets a more realistic government next election hopefully they’ll allow SpaceX to fly 25 or so test at a time while environmentalists review.

[@paulhunter1735]

The FAA, EPA, and all of the other tree huggers need to get out of the way of progress. If a few birds and other critters get startled from a rocket launch so what. Every time a car drives by wild animals they are startled and disturbed.........should we stop driving cars now because we might bother the critters. Grow up people and realize that human progress should take the lead.

[@chrisbraswell8864]

How many squirrels, racoons, deer and other animals are destroyed every year by autos. Far, far more than are killed by Elon's rockets.

[@JasmineSinclair-i3n]

The launch licensing requirement shouldn't even exist. These rockets are aircraft, like a Boeing 747 is an aircraft. A license isn't required for each flight of a 747. Would we be in danger if there was no launch license requirement? No, because a company has a lot to lose if people, property, and the environment is harmed. It is called lawsuits, and it can run into the billions. So they will behave. Like with a Boeing 747, if there is a crash or threatening malfunction, the FAA investigates, and if they believe another launch before the investigation completes threatens people, property, or the environment, they can ground the rocket/aircraft until resolved. In my opinion, a launch license requirement is unnecessary. They can't anticipate what's going to happen anyway. Go by what you know, not by what might be. If property, people, and the environment is not harmed, LEAVE THEM ALONE. My guess was the launch license was political in the first place to limit competition by startups, for the sake of their darling Boeing. Costly regulations benefit large established companies.

[@chrisbraswell8864]

Boeing give large Christmas bonuses, most to the workers from someplace besides their employees.

[@rdlynes]

I'm quite sure if the FAA was this sluggish in responding to a rapid changes and iterations and Technology we would never have the Air Services we have in this country today if there are processes are broken which clearly they are it's simple get them fixed and do your damn job stop letting politics play a role

[@tinytim71301]

Perhaps a politicized UNELECTED Agency IS the problem

[@stovebolt448]

Politics.

[@leonardlackey2813]

The FAA should send a man down there to take a water sample.

[@ronaldrhoades9783]

since when does the FAA have any oversight whatsoever in outer space which i have also noticed that the FEDEARL COMMUNICATION AGENCY NOW CLAIMS THE RIGHT TO DO

[@raystevens687]

I don't see the FFA doing anything NASA when they launch rockets or do anything USA when they launch rockets or even Jets. I think all these delays should be gone.

[@mervstash3692]

"I think this thing that I have zero proof of"

[@djohannsson8268]

Space X has an internal schedule for Starship and Booster. If an external delay happens, then more planned changes are Incorporated into the next planned flight(IFT-6). There is talk Space X may stop using build 1 and start using build 2 version of Starship. Hopefully starting production and incorporation of raptor 3 engines into build 2. In the end, Space X ends up with an improved Starship and Booster, but more complex pre-flight testing and test plan flight for IFT-6.

[@lanzer22]

The revolving door between Boeing and FAA is not a secret. As recent as 2017 Ali Bahrami was allowed to work for the FAA after he had left the organization and worked for the commercial industry, and had been widely criticized for the enabler of the regulatory oversight that lead to the hundreds of deaths by the 373Max. Do we really think that this practiced stopped at Ali when he stepped down in 2021? Do we also think that he was the only person in the FAA to have ties with Boeing? I don't think there's anything we can do about the rot unless higher authority steps in, and that's not gonna happen with this administration.

[@lymancopps5957]

The FAA is not concerned about any of these items from launches from the Cape, a much more fragile ecosystem.

[@shaung949]

The Cape is not owned by a comercial company

[@lymancopps5957]

@@shaung949 So should safety standards and scrutiny be different?

[@hectorkeezy1633]

FAA needs to get thier heads out thier asses.

[@LWB913]

SpaceX should be launching south of Brownsville in cooperation with Mexican space agencies

[@billweberx]

It would still be under the oversite of the FAA.

[@grahammukuyu4660]

​@@billweberxfaa cannot have environment concerns for another country each country has their own rules

[@billweberx]

@@grahammukuyu4660 SpaceX is an American company that cannot transfer it's technologies to any other country due to ITER. If they operate in another country, it has to be completely contained by SpaceX employees and the US has all jurisdiction or they can't operate there.

[@Mikexxx531]

@@billweberx Sadly - true. If otherwise, I'm sure SpaceX would have explored that possibility.

[@gke3800]

What was the FAA scrutiny on Artemis? Out and around the Moon first flight!

[@williamtaylor8950]

Next government launch I would charge an extra 700k to cover the cost...lol

[@mervstash3692]

Or the gov could just cut the billions in contracts...... "lol"

[@chrisbraswell8864]

@@mervstash3692 If you are waiting on the Government to do something on time you must be from another Country.

[@mervstash3692]

@chrisbraswell8864 lol is this some weird flex to suggest everyone outside of MURICA must be simpletons ?

[@dannoringer]

FAA should not be involved in any of space flight. congress needs to act.

[@zhorkon]

So… who do we, the American public, have more confidence in? The horde of Biden / Harris political appointees at the helm of the paper-pushing FAA bureaucracy? Or Elon Musk’s hires, all “rocket scientists”, literally and figuratively? I think I’ll go with Musk’s SpaceX team. 😊

[@bills3573]

Maybe America should teach astronauts Chinese so they can ask for permission to land on the moon. Regulators are going to get them there second.

[@leonardlackey2813]

Holding up SpaceX is holding up our going to the moon, to Mars, and beyond.

[@frgv4060]

China will bring Martian rocks much sooner than the US. How important is that geopolitically I don’t know but certainly it will hurt.

[@EvM411]

Why try to understand? The more anyone complain.. the more they will redact and retrack to milk it.. laws and layers .. snake oil.. greasy the situation

[@allanlansdowne340]

Sue their arse off Elon. Teach them a lesson. No flights to the ISS until they stop this vendetta against SpaceX.

[@stephensfarms7165]

Amen, I am with you Elon. Should have launched long time ago. Go SpaceX StarShip ‼️‼️‼️‼️

[@ROYKN6WBK]

I hope the FAA is not politicized trying to nit pick and go after Elon.

[@scottrankine2674]

The FAA needs to constitute a space specific licensing group that can streamline launch approvals

[@armurf]

Isn't space x in a swamp ( rotting vegetation and dirty water anyway)

[@mikemiller1534]

Wet lands. Same difference. Home to lots of wildlife. Likely the response of intreached bureaucrats to Elon getting along with DJT.

[@danielch6662]

​@@mikemiller1534well, it's not the super genius's fault for choosing a wetland to build his spaceport on. What could go wrong? 🤷

[@Wirmish]

SpaceX released DRINKING WATER to the swamp.

[@patrickmchargue7122]

The FAA gets paid no matter if SpaceX flies or not. Until someone is fired or otherwise penalized, why should they change what they do?

[@tommcmicken4776]

It's abundantly clear that the fine is destened to bolser several FAA employees saleries-----

[@rickhick4408]

If FAA is going to keep harassing SpaceX over simple BS, they need to fine Boing over Starlink, and fine themselves for approving the Starlink launch when they knew some systems were faulty. That's safety concerns 👍

[@americosilva3935]

i get the feeling Boeing has something to do with the FAA attacking Starship

[@scubaeqhp]

How much do you think SpaceX pays in govt. fees for licenses, permits, etc.?

[@Outlaw_Traffic_Stops]

Deport 3 letter agencies .

[@chrischeshire6528]

FAA has been told by Old Joe to give SpaceX a hard time. In exchange for Elon Bucks. Elon supports Trump and that pisses Joe off... because hes an old cry baby.

[@chrisbraswell8864]

Left out Evil liar.

[@lynnkramer1211]

Perhaps Elon should consider launching from Idaho. We already have many Minuteman missile siloes available for his use. In addition to which Idahoans love SpaceX and are well used to technical engineering excellence. Idaho is the home of the National Engineering Laboratory after all.

[@AstroCrown]

I understand the concerns about bureaucracy causing delays for SpaceX. However, it’s important to recognize the flexibility and efficiency of ISRO (Indian Space Research Organisation). ISRO has a proven track record of successful missions and cost-effective solutions. Collaborating with ISRO could provide SpaceX with unique advantages, such as access to India’s growing space infrastructure and a supportive regulatory environment. This partnership could potentially mitigate bureaucratic hurdles and foster innovation.

[@AdamRogers]

I do not support people like him representing ANYTHING

[@spacecadet35]

Now if only the FAA were this stringent with Boeing, several hundred lives would have been saved. It certainly looks like the FAA now works for Boeing.

[@jaeluatl]

SpaceX themselves classify the water as industrial waste in a paper they filed, federal regulations state any water used for industrial purposes industry water that leftover water is considered to be industrial waste. That’s a small technicality and I think that’s what’s catching up this lower levels of mercury doesn’t make sense to the rest of us.

[@peterclarke3020]

Below detectable levels.

[@SuperShark3D]

drain the swamp

[@dannoringer]

Why is the FAA even involved ? FAA is supposed to be about airlines and airports. CONGRESS should divorce FAA from spaceflight.

[@flightsimdev9021]

First attempt for Landspace, doubtful, more like 50th attempt and the one that worked they showed.

[@illuminatedtiger]

Just get rid of the FAA and the EPA and let SpaceX regulate themselves. What has the FAA ever done for anyone anyway? Not as if they've done anything to improve safety.

[@So1othurn]

I wonder if Coleman is a DEI hire.

[@leonardlackey2813]

SpaceX should move to Yucatan!

[@leonardliverpool5073]

America He’s held back by its own bureaucracy😊

[@landofstan246]

No problem with the toxic exhaust gases though from all the rockets used by every on.

[@kevinherrlin1772]

FAA = DMV of space exploration...

[@EthanDickenson]

The battle has begun.

[@alesh2275]

After Lawfare, we now have Bureaucratic Harassment.

[@fjauge2465]

Just give an ongoing prototipe license , keep in touch with changes and get over it. The FAA not only gets shamed all over, it even childish tries to have little vengances at space x , with fines etc..

[@DariusDuplessis-x1w]

FAA must GO

[@Vogas2]

FAA will be reason for SpaceX to renew their work on sea launch platform.

[@roycsinclair]

Sonic booms from returning boosters and Starship will undoubtedly be LESS of of problem than the noise of their launch on 33 raptor engines.

[@TsarHare]

i do not care about the "effect" , wild life am a.i. drones to begin with. proceed SpaceX. end the "negative" claims. purely say love about start ship.

[@semperfi6288]

Wonder who the FAA is doing favors for the delays?

[@aniballecter6054]

*Okay, if the FAA is worried about the reentry of the hot ring into the atmosphere then the ISS should be left in space forever... and while they're at it, they should investigate the South Pacific area where all the space junk falls.*

[@ReginaldCarey]

Coleman should watch this and then explain to the president why his agency is impeding progress toward a national strategic goal.

[@jcfallows]

Everybody working at the FAA should be given a pencil and a clean sheet of paper and told to write down what they DO every day, NOT! what their job description. Then need to weed out the useless and sack them!

[@audioscavenger]

Meanwhile in Gina... no FAA to oversees the tons of pollutants released and violation of licenses coz there's no licenses needed. Yes FAA helps us a lot.