Oops, I was fying my CPU with high voltages unnecesarily. Thanks for the valuable knoweledge, I foresee great growth for this great channel.
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment!
@SchkuenteQoostewin8 ай бұрын
Thank you sir for this information. I been fighting with the heat on my 5950x to a point I went full water. Just to have the voltage being defaulted at 1.445v....Dropped it to 1.15v and amazingly it is staying idle in the 40s now.
@alexclarke35342 жыл бұрын
I just got a 5950X and enabled PBO and Ryzen master auto OC and my limit is 5150Mhz. Without touching any settings. It’s awesome .
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
Awesome to hear! PBO works wonders. When I first enabled it I was very impressed with AMD and the work they have done to build in the ability to easily scale up performance with good cooling.
@aliarto55802 жыл бұрын
how to enable PBO on x570 tuf gaming ? i have 5950x running on 1.40v 3.4GHz on default
@Bushko13373 жыл бұрын
This channel is so under rated! Very good explanations and overall presentation on how to tackle the overclocking by yourself. I give you a big thumbs up for this video! Just got my 5950x 2 days ago and did not have much success with overclocking until I found out this video, so thanks! :)
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the comment! Glad you found it useful!
@UCx80L8rXNSjrdfWYG9Id5bQ2 жыл бұрын
ditto! so much covered on how to benchmark from start to end for newbies!
@mistacane5102 жыл бұрын
Would this apply to 5900x
@Jennifer-lz7mp Жыл бұрын
Yeah you can just tell this guy is smart by the way he explains all the details.
@UnhingedSystems Жыл бұрын
@K3shavGaming Sure is! Go into the menus and change the settings to only run one iteration instead of a full 10-minute stress test.
@phoenix01532 жыл бұрын
This was incredible! You had me running my pbo/static oc in no time. Now, given that I have some experience doing both and already had my pbo decently tuned up, I pretty much slapped what you tried into mine and Holy crap batman! Did it ever work! Time for some fine tuning, lol. Also, this really was one of the best, in depth videos I've seen on this subject. I've looked into overclocking videos for about 2 years now and am exceedingly annoyed I haven't seen you before. Keep up the great work!
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! I am glad you found it useful!
@daxgaming63912 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, it's been very informative and has made a huge difference. I left the cpu ratio to auto and used the amd overclock, - p boost advanced, - pbo motherboard Cpu boost + with max cpu 200mhz Stats - boosted all cores from 3400 to 4500 on cinebench - current v core 1.138 - minimum core 1.138 - max v core of 1.250 - Average v core 1.158 - max temp of 59° - max Watts 151.2 I reckon I could push it, further, but its rock solid. Used avidia stres test overnight and while I was at work for 19.75 hours) and didn't crash. Max temp 67° Cinebench score 29145
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
@12Silversurfer122 жыл бұрын
Bro, do u have dark hero withe the switch? Can I do PBO and put the cpi volt down and get the all core static with no dynamic switch?
@mccurran76 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the video. I have a similar setup but new to the OC world and was stumbling around like a blind man in the dark! This was so well done and so helpful and got me going in the right direction. Thank you sir!
@MHBGT3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Valuable insight, going to apply this to my 5900X which is currently on a Gigabyte X570S board which has a dynamic OC switcher too.
@HeyDan19833 жыл бұрын
Dude you deserve more views and subscribers, I really liked your presentation, keep it up!
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate that!!
@benchvirgin42433 жыл бұрын
DOCS here 👌 1.285 v and [0]4.700 [1] 4550 , is the sweet spot for my system.
@rayray002043 жыл бұрын
I love your video, you know not much of 5950x proper oc tutorial on KZbin. subscribed!!!
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ray Ray! I appreciate the kind comment!
@Cmm4626 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this is no longer an enigma for me! So glad I found your video. I used AI Suite 3 to do an automated overclock now its stuck at 4ghz so I figured Id learn what all this is about and you came through! I leaned a multi core overclock will lock the frequency. I planned to put it back to do the automated boost overclocking but armed with your knowledge I may just get squirly!
@samrob20092 жыл бұрын
Great info. I don't know much about over clocking so it is good seeing videos like this.
@Mrdannyjd3 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe more people haven’t seen and liked this. Very informative, well demonstrated and educational. Keep up the great work!
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the support! I appreciate it!
@Q8Patriot2 жыл бұрын
Well explained, thanks for the detailed walkthrough
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment!
@kittleeagle3 жыл бұрын
Currently running 4.7GHz 5800X at 1.26875V with 4000MHz / 2000FCLK C14-16-16-30 at 1.45V G.Skill Neo with my Dark Hero X570. I also am Water Cooled and my Strix 3090 is in a Alphacool Water Block with a +220 GPU Core, +1000 Memory that hits 47C on 3D Mark, and Junction Temps at 68C. Not bad at all.
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
Nice! Being able to get +220 core is silicon lottery at its finest :) no matter how cool I keep my GPU it won't go above 185 stable 24/7
@osilentreaper Жыл бұрын
O my this video was AMAZING 😮 I loved the way u explained everything I feel like I wanted to learn like u had me hooked and taught me so much in just this video I have a 5950x and it's doing wonderful u earned urself a sub that's for sure thank you so much
@UnhingedSystems Жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly! New videos coming soon!
@sloppyprogrammer43732 жыл бұрын
I have a 5900x and also Dark Hero, stumbled across your channel when I was researching the EKWB Monoblock for C8Hero/Dark hero. Since I will be upgrading GPU very soon I wanted to upgrade my waterloop also and wanted to upgrade to the monoblock (I have a regular Velocity block, but I got bored of the looks). Thanks, you have really good content and are an underrated channel and had a good time watching this video and the building of your pc. I only wonder, did you see actual improvements in VRM temperatures with the mono block, because I think the VRM is already so overkill that it's for most people not worth looking into it other than aesthetics (already purchased, not installed yet before I have my new GPU and blocks. Did it mainly for looks, not necessarily for gains).
@MoldRS Жыл бұрын
Have you ran into issues with 5900x and dark hero? Im running a 5950x and dark hero and my pc randomly black screen reboots
@Simon_Hawkshaw2 жыл бұрын
Great info. Thanks so much for your efforts and sharing.
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Thanks for watching! I'm having a bit of a creators block, so the encouragement goes a long way!
@Simon_Hawkshaw2 жыл бұрын
@@UnhingedSystems I totally understand your current predicament having once been a technical content creator and educator, but I am confident with new technology on the horizon, you will soon be back in the swing of things and helping the rest of us muddle through. Take care and all the best.
@RipItProductions5592 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Excellent video and this was very helpful
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment! I'll be doing another OC video for the 5900X in a few weeks!
@NFX864423 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, really useful!
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you found it useful!
@RedPillBroadcast2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, have 30k scores and running cool/stable once again
@icold6662 жыл бұрын
If want fast BSOD´s for overclock tests, use the game called: Road redemption , it´s very sensitive to instabilities on pc, and you can found very fast the exactly vcore what you need. About degradation i see different reports about, including with 1.18v in 4 years as well a i7 2600k working at 1.41 for 9 years without any degradation.
@Cblan12243 жыл бұрын
I had a 46.50@1.356v on my 5950. Instead I am using PBO and getting an allcore of 4575-4600 while keeping boosts up to 5100. I have 2 360mm radiators and a lot of fans in my cooling loop though. I set each core individually, it took a long time to figure it out, quite a few weekends and about a thousand reboots, but I'm happy. The only thing I disagree with is your ram. I would leave it stock until after your cpu overclock. Ram could cause core to be unstable. Core is king. Then after, see if xmp/docp is stable, and go from there. Ram is not as important as core. On my CO, I have one core at -17, and the rest are -22 to -26. Boost override best results +50 for me PPT 270 TDC 165 EDC 230
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
RAM at 3600 shouldn't be causing any core instability, but RAM at 3800 or 4000 certainly could (memory controller not keeping up). Running RAM at 2333 with Ryzen 5000 would be leaving a lot of performance on the table so at the very least RAM speeds should be verified before attempting an overclock. I agree with you in that if you are getting instability that disabling the RAM overclock is a great troubleshooting step. If the CPU is drawing a lot of power it may be necessary to increase SOC voltage to stabilize (Just nothing over 1.2V). The RAM itself wouldn't be causing instability, if anything it would be insufficient voltage to the memory controller due to CPU power draw. Out of curiosity, what is your peak CPU temperature? Thanks! Thank you for the comment and the tips!
@Cblan12243 жыл бұрын
@@UnhingedSystems depending on the BIOS I'm on..gigabytes newest bios is horrible and is unstable at xmp...I guess we can say it varies. On the previous bios I am running 3800 14-16-15-32-48-312 next to a really good overclock. I actually stopped forcing constant voltage and am using auto voltage with PBO+CO. My peak is 87 when stress testing, or 84 during a typical gaming session. I have spent many hours on this, and only hit 87 in extreme circumstances. I went extreme overclocking first, then worked on the temps later. So I kind of went backwards, and it may not be the best idea for those who just want a nice steady overclock. I am more of a...put your foot on its neck and see what it can do..type person. My gpu has a 520w unverified bios..a 3090 that averages about 2070mhz. I wouldn't leave ram on 2133 either. Just for overclocking or troubleshooting. I put it down to 2133 because I have tightened my timings and just like to focus on one thing at a time. Then I tried 3800 and it actually worked. I will say that having an fclk at 1900 does raise my cpu temps by about 5° peak, so this was something to consider. For me. It does not do this at 1867, but 1900 and it does. So I am approaching some sort of limit maybe. I agree about soc. It took a long time to figure all of these things out. It's not a quick process lol Obviously there are different/better ways to do this. I'm confident I have found a point where my cpu will never throttle, and have gotten the most out of it. Am I pushing it a bit too hard? It's very possible.
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
@@Cblan1224 Which 3090 are you using? I have thought of flashing my card with a higher wattage BIOS, but 3090s aren't the easiest to find replacements for right now. My 480W card tends to be around 2030-2060 MHz most of the time, but it has TONS of thermal headroom still.
@Cblan12243 жыл бұрын
@@UnhingedSystems you have a suprim? I have an msi GXT. I have tried suprim, ftw3 xoc 500w, and landed on kingpin 520w bios. With nvidia control panel on prefer maximum performance, it is at a constant 1920mhz. Evga xoc is 1800mhz. My msi was 1760something. So there is much less variation in card speed. Ramping up and down. Its a strong performer. But the bios I'm using isn't verified. It's on techpowerup as an unverified bios. Kingpin gives these out directly, supposedly. The initial 520w bios is verified, but for the one with resizeable bar, supposedly people had to get it from kingpin. Then it likely was shared and ended up on techpowerup. Kingpin also has a 900w unlimited bios, but for some reason he can't add ReBar to that one. Anyway, the only game that pushes 520w for me at the moment is metro exodus pc enhanced in 4k with max settings. I'm not sure why. The gpu is always at 99-100%, but some games don't go over 450w. I should mention that I have both sides of my gpu on waterblocks. Which is essential for a 3090. Don't want the vram on the back heating up the core..or have half my vram at different temps than the other half.
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
@@Cblan1224 Nice! Mine is the Asus Strix OC 3090 (485W max per sensors) with an EK block and passive EK backplate. GPU hardly ever goes over 44C and the memory never goes above 60C with the max hotspot temp being around 56C. That is with a fluid temperature between 36-40C The passive backplate is more than enough for me with the right thermal pads used all around the card. Factory thermal pads and EK thermal pads are sub-par. I have a 3090 FE still in the box bit I plan to swap out every thermal pads and thermal compound to see how it actually performs. I'll be using it at stock clocks for a rendering/workstation/streaming server.
@sloppyprogrammer43732 жыл бұрын
Tip for beginners, I learned this on years of experience: always overclock after you clean installed, disable everything you don't need for benchmarking and make sure you are 100% stable. After that, re-install windows, because you might corrupt the OS during testing and benchmarking, before setting everything as your daily driver. Don't install manufacturer bloatware, just chipset/gpu drivers and bios is enough (only if the bios is unstable, don't fix what isn't broken). I stumbled into some really weird glitches, bugs and corrupted data in the course of 10+ years, wasted a lot of time troubleshooting while the only fix was to reinstall. Thank me later, it might surprise you what a week of overclocking, benchmarking and tweaking can do to your OS.
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a solid beginner tip! If you overclock your memory for example and it isn't 100% stable, but Windows runs a defragment on your main storage drive(s) the data can become corrupted! Overclocking is pretty safe if you are doing it in small stints and properly stability testing things, I mess with my system's overclock almost weekly to test new things different hardware, but I have solid backups. When I had Windows Millennium Edition (ME) I thought I would be smart and upgrade to 1GB of RAM from 512MB. Apparently Windows ME could only support 512MB. You could add more, and the OS would display that you had more, but it would "ghost address" the memory addresses above 512MB meaning that when my defrag ran the data was thrown into oblivion and returning nothing. My whole drive was corrupted and I lost years of photos. I was 18 or 19 at the time. Data was unrecoverable. Maintaining regular backups can help ensure you don't lose data 👍
@sloppyprogrammer43732 жыл бұрын
@@UnhingedSystems Oofff windows ME.. Yeah, I rather forget that period. Also yeah... I learned this the hard way. Luckily I have back ups, but you never know. These issues can go undetected for a long while and is usually related to unstable bios/overclock settings. Usually overclocking is pretty safe indeed, but if you want to push extremely high bench scores (without LN2) and you push a little too hard for too long, data corruption is inevitable. Also you tend to get better scores on a total clean install with just chipset drivers and everything unnecessary disabled. Happy tweaking, great videos.
@chiboreache Жыл бұрын
windowz users are so miserable, they reinstalling their meta-os all the time hahaha
@SAGGGGGGG22 күн бұрын
Had a problem similar today, I couldn't figure out what was wrong for the life if me pc what blue screening and crashing after I added more fans, I couldn't even boot in to save mode it was very confusing especially when I forgot I used my USB to load bios and forgot I was trying to boot on it😂😂 had to brake out the laptop to get the file's have every fixed now I think just cleaning the pc and reformating ssd and hard drives, before I set it up again, don't what that problem to just come back straight away
@pronouncedseven6522 жыл бұрын
Subscribed Sir.. I can understand you. dude keep this up.. you have a Future.
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate the kind comment!
@ryanlaseter76263 жыл бұрын
I've been able to keep my 5900x@4.4Ghz 1.2V for almost half a year now! I could get aome higher clocks, 4.5, however I used various programs to test thermals and Blender's OpenData renders pushed it past 90C so, 4.4Ghz it is 😂
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
Solid! The 5900X is an awesome chip. I'm starting another build series shortly that will make use of it.
@SideKnoblauch2 жыл бұрын
Really nice and super great at explaining! Would you be covering some RAM overclocking as well on the 5950x? I've seen that the 5000 series can be pushed further on tightening timing and would love an explanation on that
@sloppyprogrammer43732 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but be sure to have good binned DDR memory. It's really difficult to push certain sticks. Everything CL14 3200/3800 is highly likely to be able to get 200-600 MHz more. But with CL16 kits it's hit or miss. CL18 kits, probably you can squeeze out some performance, but you need to loosen timings so much that's probably not worth the effort. (Edit: mHz - MHz). Also, not all DIMMS listed as Samsung B-Die will be a B-die, especially for CL16+ kits (CL14 probably is B-Die, but they are really scarce and expensive now).
@daxgaming63912 жыл бұрын
@@sloppyprogrammer4373 yeah defo expensive. I bought team group 8 pack ripped edition mem. 16gb £180, when I bought and are b-die guaranteed 3600 cas 14
@randysalsman6992 Жыл бұрын
I get a little over 30,000 with my r9 5950x stock. My best oc where temps were still ok enough was 4.725Ghz @1.34-1.35 (in between there just don't remember the exact) and I got around 35,000 on r23.
@jkeeran92413 жыл бұрын
Best video I've found going into depth both all core and pbo, thank you for the knowledge.
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure, thank you for watching! More OC tips and videos to come!
@EdwardSkihands2 жыл бұрын
Put 45,5GHz on better half and 44,5GHz lesser half of die at "CPU CORE RATIO (PER CCX)" and find a good voltage for your setup. I found it most stable like that
@erikhendrickson592 жыл бұрын
Yes! On the 5900x/5950x the FIRST CCX is almost always more highly-binned. The SECOND CCX seems to run around 100-150MHz lower at any given voltage
@InSaiyan-Shinobi2 жыл бұрын
holy shit this video made learn way more then most videos for real bro great video definitely subbed
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the awesome comment and the sub! Glad you got something out of the video!
@InSaiyan-Shinobi2 жыл бұрын
@@UnhingedSystems just one question can i follow this method if i have a 3950x?
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
@@InSaiyan-Shinobi The method is quite similar, yes. I wouldn't go over 1.35-1.4V on the 3950X. The 5000 series uses a newer version of PBO, but you can also unlock power limits for the 3950X and have it provide better clock speeds without needing to mess around too much with voltages.
@InSaiyan-Shinobi2 жыл бұрын
@@UnhingedSystems ok ima try to mess with it honestly I just stayed with 1.26v at 4.4 and stayed because when I tried to get 4.5or 4.6 the voltage was High at 1.4
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
@@InSaiyan-Shinobi When the CPU starts needing a lot of extra voltage for very little gains that's a good place to stop. The benefit beyond that point is minimal anyways.
@sophanpano18043 жыл бұрын
Really great video! I just got my 5950x with x570s Aorus master, I able to overclock to 4.525Ghz with vcore 1.225v, I'm running Cinebench r20 and r23 stable with max temp 80c using 360 aio. I scored 11787 points on Cinebench r20 and 30304 points on r23. It's my first time overclocking CPU, is it a good overclock?
@KRGraphicsCG2 жыл бұрын
This looks pretty good. I'm aiming to do this with the 5950X on an Asus Crosshair hero VIII
@juansnow58972 жыл бұрын
@@KRGraphicsCG just doing the 1st step with 5950x gets me to 100c with a custom loop and a crash, it ran hot with an aio originally too, the loops water temp is usually around 27-28c and the same for my 3090 but the cpu is always 65 idle and 80+ in load
@KRGraphicsCG2 жыл бұрын
@@juansnow5897 yikes. I'm going to be using air cooling so I best be careful
@reyalPRON2 жыл бұрын
Im undervolting and using the dynamic switch at 35A sor single core boost to be active too. Getting 5.14ghz@ auto single core, and 4.2ghz@1,1v. Getting 27900-28500 r23. low 60´s allcore maxload, singlecore maxload high 80s. Happy as f with my rig and setup when compared to maxed out like this. and mine is pretty quiet too :) Got most perf from tuning bdie,
@cprovenzo2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
@Am1rTV3 жыл бұрын
Really love the way you've presented the knowledge, results, and process you went through. A+
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! That means a lot! Glad you liked it!
@jiitch2 жыл бұрын
thank you !! great video ❤️
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words!
@yapjohn193 жыл бұрын
i like this one thanks alot this how you explain and teach everyone for starter or beginners
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
@CoKeHQ1Ай бұрын
Best oc video, would've saved me so much research and being misguided if I came across it earlier. Dont think my asrock b450 pro4 has that switcher as its a miracle I got the pbo2 working with it + above 4g decoding and resizable BAR too, blessed be bios updates. Saved 1000€ just pushing my 2018 builded pc to its am4 limits instead of building a new pc for am5. Went from stock bios version with 2700x to latest bios version that gave support to my 4070 ti super and 5950x! It was a long road, and it seems I could still min max it with ryzen master + the undervolt per core. But I will live with my -10 allcore. Wondering if the max cpu clock overdrive setting is worth to test but you said too ya had some issues with it not working well? Tempted to try it though as my boosted clock doesnt quite reach 5000, with eco mode it did but it was unstable + killed the multicore performance. But 100MHz wont make a noticable difference anyway so prob will try to move away from min maxing and just enjoy what I currently have except if you have some more wisdom to share on the topic.
@UnhingedSystemsАй бұрын
@@CoKeHQ1Thank you for your kind comments! I think moving away from min/maxing is a noble thing to do. It really isn't worth all of the headaches for a 1-2% gain. I'm more interested in building a liquid cooling loop that allows the system to run completely silent (and to eliminate coil whine entirely on the GPU, or at least isolate the noise extremely well). Also! I've got a podcast (which is why noise isolation is important to me!): Basement Faults and Catapults on Audible, Spotify, Apple etc. where we play random genres of games and have a bunch of fun doing it! New YT video dropping within 2 weeks as well, and getting back to a regular schedule! Thanks for stopping by!
@CoKeHQ1Ай бұрын
@@UnhingedSystems appreciate the fast reply, on top of it you took the time + put though into it. Makes me feel heard and that is rare for one who likes to write long texts (which few then read which I understand) That aside, I am really perfectionistic and I pay attention to small details really easily which has its perk in more creative and detailed things like art. But with PC stuff that can be maddening when you really easily notice game micro stutters, off sounds your pc makes, or the fluctuating sound pc fans make if you use curves to control fan speed. This led me to finding the sweet spot where temps are good and I almost cant hear the pc and just making those rpms be flat with really small rpm boost between load temps 70-85, and if it gets to 90c then the fans will go apeshit but for now, havent heard them do that once so am done with tracking n will just enjoy peace n quiet. Though gpu coil whine is pretty bad on my gpu, gave it a small undervolt and limited the fps but its still real audible if I dont have headphones on with some sounds especially now that the fans run quiet. But it could be worse and the pitch is low now thanks to those adjustments I made so it doesnt push through my headphones. Next pc build I make I will prioritize getting a quiet case that damps coil whines, hopefully still with decent airflow.
@breeblazevideobrandon32113 жыл бұрын
Well done this is a great video
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@AyGrip2 жыл бұрын
Anyone following this video just use ryzen master and apply changes that way until you find your sweet spot. Going back and forth to the bios isn’t necessary until youve found the right clock and voltage for you.
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
Also a good method. I have a number of other OC videos coming up that will touch on different methods and approaches. It would be easy to do a 2HR video on all the ways and approaches, tools, etc, but no one would want to watch that 🧐
@wakegary2 жыл бұрын
Thk you
@CDuff862 жыл бұрын
I have my Ryzen 5 3600 overclocked to 4.5GHz, however I have to run at 1.35v. Temps still sitting at 41⁰ while gaming. Under direct load with Cinebench, I peak around 62⁰ I'm happy with the 4.5 as this was a super cheap chip. 360mm aio (H150i Capellix) seems to give a LOT of thermal headroom for a much bigger chip. I think my next upgrade will be a 5800x ☺️
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
That's a sweet OC! I'd recommend the 5900X over the 5800X as it has much more thermal headroom. 5800X is an awesome chip, but it runs quite hot compared to a 5900X (5800X clocks nice and high and uses the same 140W stock power limit as the 5900X and 5950X stock for stock).
@GabrielTobing2 жыл бұрын
Damn, I only got to 4.2570 or something at 1.28v I think?
@PieroZanetti2 жыл бұрын
great video, thanks!
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@maker7901 Жыл бұрын
the best overclocking i seen thats best for ryzen 5000 series is just using PBO with curve optimizer
@UnhingedSystems Жыл бұрын
Agreed, that is typically the best overall result, PBO is very good on its own. If doing a lot of CPU intensive workloads it would potentially be more efficient to use an all-core overclock.
@maker7901 Жыл бұрын
@@UnhingedSystems yea it would in certain ways. However I found out during gaming even with pbo and curve optimizer the cpu is only drawing about 70 to 80 watts of power which my cpu is the 5800x. And I'm pretty sure if the cpu is running at 80 to 100% it would draw over 100 watts. I also noticed ryzen on 3000 and 5000 series run better on more voltage on auto. but not static voltage.
@UnhingedSystems Жыл бұрын
@@maker7901 indeed, the 5800X will draw 147-180W depending on the settings 👍
@MehrbodNoroozi Жыл бұрын
It's sad my motherboard doesn't have Variable switch I have overkill setup but my motherboard is AM4 X570 ProArt so I can't have single boost and all core boost at same time
@JohnJames-yt1gh2 жыл бұрын
I would love it if you did a video on the curve optimizer in PBO. I would like to overclock my 5900x to get the best performance on all core and single core, but am not sure how to go about it.
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
Will do, gimme a couple weeks! Overclocking is a cool topic!
@JohnJames-yt1gh2 жыл бұрын
@@UnhingedSystems it definitely is. This is my first time actually trying to overclock a cpu. The last computer I built was about 10 years ago, and I just built it to play games. Never got around to overclocking it. Haha
@JKHYT2 жыл бұрын
Static all core ratio and voltage is not worth doing at all IMO, unless you only care about Cinebench score. It's gonna be slower in lightly threaded applications, i.e. gaming. Memory tuning is worth spending time on if you want to tinker, otherwise just enable XMP, PBO + max out Auto OC and call it done. Spending more time after that is chasing single digit percentage points. On one hand it's great that you can get basically max performance with little effort, on the other hand traditional overclocking is kinda dead, or at least dying.
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree that you are better off utilizing PBO and just enabling higher power limits within your cooling capacity. That being said, I don't think overclocking is dead, it's just transitioning to more of a "if you have a great cooling solution you can get 15-20% more performance out of your CPU". Between PBO and curve optimizer you can get some really great improvements over stock. Maybe some day the CPU will be tuned so well from factory that manual options won't provide any benefit at all. That would be less fun though 😉
@JKHYT2 жыл бұрын
@@UnhingedSystems Yea I guess I'm just thinking of the way it is now vs what I consider the golden era of overclocking. Chips like Celeron 300A that could usually overclock by 50% without much effort, the Athlon XP 2500+ which was trivial to get 20% and usually more, Pentium 4's that could do 100% overclocks. These days it doesn't really seem worth it because it's a lot more effort for a lot less gains.
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
@@JKHYT Good 'ol FSB overclocking, those were the golden days. Loved my old 2.8HT Socket 478 that would push 3.4GHz
@FPVSlice2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have been looking into some OC guides again, now that my undervolt is becoming unstable after a year... What i still don't understand is the relation between pbo settings in Extreme tweaker and the ones in Advanced. I have never touched the settings in Extreme tweaker and only done them in Advanced. Won't they conflict with each other in some way? Also, what about the core performance boost setting?
@nikobobich97262 жыл бұрын
mine runs stable at 1.265 4.5k .. that seems to be the sweet spot for me. I have a 1000 watt Platinum rated EVGA power supply (wish I had the 1200 watt one). Power supplies are one most important things for Overclocking ur CPU capabilities. ... I get r23 scores over 29k and my temps run 60 to 65 on a full load... I have both ccx's set at 4.5 and my threshold set to 40 amps.. all my games run between 25 and 45 amps that way when it goes over I consistently get that all core boost 4.5 to over 5k on the curve... 12 of my 16 cores spike over 5k My CPU Idles between 38 and 42 degrees on an NZXT cooler. (wish I had an open loop probably could get temps way lower) I just set the pbo to auto and turned on the enhancer plus gave it a 50 boost override running perfectly and passed all stress testing.. kahru. prime, occt , 30 min cr23 stress , testmem. No wheaa errors for months Im getting between 200 and 240 FPS on warzone and 240 consistently on apex. I run a AW2721d monitor on 1440p if this helps anyone. KEEP IN MIND not every processor and hardware is the same you have to really stress your voltages and speeds DO NOT COPY people it will NEVER WORK.... I REPEAT DO NOT COPY SETTINGS
@lukakorman9761 Жыл бұрын
Whooaaa, thanks. I was wondering how nice would it be if there is automatic switch for OC settings.
@konfinoyair3 жыл бұрын
Good job. I wish you specified power consumption when using dynamic oc.
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
200-240W CPU power consumption when it runs on overclocking mode between 4.3-4.6 GHz vs power consumption of 140W at default operation which is 3.4 GHz all-core clock. Honestly the performance gain vs power gain is reasonable up to about 4.4GHz and then it starts becoming more power exponentially required to maintain a stable overclock. At the highest possible OC stable I was was pulling over 280W CPU power consumption, but the heat and minimal performance gains weren't worth it for a daily driver.
@bandsalat2000 Жыл бұрын
My 5950X runs stable on a MSI B450 Tomahawk Max at 1.1250 volts (really - no joke) and fixed 4400 Mhz. I reach 29568 points in CR 23. With a Dark Rock 4 cooler (non pro) I never see more than 63-68 degrees. Without my undervolting the CPU was running at over 1.4 volts and I reached 90 degrees in no time. Since I convert a lot of movies to x265, stable continuous performance is simply more important to me than short-term boost Mhz records. At full load, the CPU draws 160-175 watts. In Handbrake around 130-150 watts. Without undervolting even 210-215 watts, which would have been too crass for my air cooler. I can really recommend the 5950X as a workhorse and am currently totally satisfied. Especially the change from the 2700X was awesome.
@Hobby_Racer3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying your channel!! Have went through all the 5950x and 3090 build and these OC settings! Could you possibly show the FPS difference between all core 4.5 without dynamic vs using the dynamic settings? Or will their be nearly no difference? Thanks
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Using Dynamic OC (allowing PBO to boost the single-core performance to 5+GHz) will net your best FPS performance in games that are CPU bound. The difference will be mostly negligible. If you are playing at 1440p or 4K you won't likely run into CPU bound scenarios that would affect FPS. The only effect would be at 1080p gaming where the GPU isn't being loaded. I was in the hospital for 10 days, just starting to recover at home, looking forward to doing some more content soon!
@sloppyprogrammer43732 жыл бұрын
Only in < 1080p you can see some beneficial improvements in Manual OC or PBO + Curve optimizer. As Unhinged said, there is next to no gain in 2k/4k and your GPU capable of rendering at that resolution. You might squeeze out 5-20 more fps, but it's not worth doing it solely for that (if you already have 200fps in a game, why would you want 205-220 fps, really). If you really like tweaking and benchmarking as a hobby, then of course it's worth it to you ;) Your CPU will respond quicker with an optimized curve and being able to boost higher, but the effective core rates don't ever go up to those speeds in gaming loads (as stated, only in older mostly CPU bound games that use 1 or 2 cores, but multithread optimized games there is barely, if any, improvement). PBO 2.0 and Curve optimizer brings more to the table for a more responsive overall feeling in OS and lower loads as well as lowering temperatures, but for gaming you barely notice a thing (and you can use it to your advantage to lower temperatures without sacrificing performance). Your OS will feel a little bit more responsive with a good curve and PBO. Tip: even if core clocks in HwInfo state 5100 MHz, it's effective core probably didn't reach that frequency. You should monitor effective core speeds in Ryzen master or hwinfo, "normal" coreclocks in hwinfo are not accurate. Also gaming doesn't draw so much power that Dynamic OC switching is worth it for just that. All core overclock is definitely not worth the risk and time investment for just gaming. Also, if all you do is gaming, a 5800x (or comparable intel cpu, just go for best performance per dollar) is more than enough for your needs for the coming few years. Don't spend extra if you "Might need it for editing, might need it for rendering" because if you "might" you're not doing it fulltime and it's just not worth spending extra for maybe a couple faster renders. It's just not worth it if you don't use it almost daily or have a hobby involving benchmarking. Also don't buy into fanboyism, really just buy what you like and what you think is best value for your money. If you like a brand, go for the brand, if you like your money go for your money. Just research well on your components, the overall build as a whole is important to your needs. Don't cheap out on motherboard and PSU, but also don't overspend on things you don't need. I went for 5900x instead of 5950x because I do 30% of my time video editing and heavy compiling of programs and 70% of my time programming (work) /gaming/surfing internet. I do it on a frequent basis, not "I might" if you understand. The 5800x would've been a little bit too slow for my needs, but I couldn't justify the 5950x for the extra price because I don't have full workloads for more than half my time (it would maybe net me 1-2 hours time reduction in a whole year, my work and time doesn't depend on it). I have this CPU for almost 1 year and I'm really happy with it and stand fully behind my purchase, but if all I did was gaming I would've just gone 5600x or 5800x at that point in time. Dynamic OC Switching is amazing if you really have high power draw loads often, otherwise it's definitely not worth to spend 200/250 more for a motherboard with those capabilities. Really choose wise for your needs and you can save a bunch of money which you can spend on things that matter more (pretty case, better GPU, games, investing it for the future, try not to get caught up in hypes it will save you a lot of time, hassle and money).
@mariobnc1995 Жыл бұрын
the problem of the ryzen 5000 is that only the first ccd reaches the frequency of 4.7 GHz you have to set two separate frequencies
@cannaroe12139 ай бұрын
more people need to know this, there are two, and we're only OCing one, the weakest
@jakubkubicki1437 Жыл бұрын
I was searching for good videos on pbo and this one is definitely far more superior than any other I've seen, thx for the help!
@martonattila66542 жыл бұрын
Good video don't get me wrong. Really good info and all that. But in short.. if you don't own a dark hero motherboard it's pretty much useless to overclock your CPU (all cores) unless it's a power house for rendering non stop. The fact that you lose the 2 core turbo boost says it all. But with the Dark Hero MB. You can have both for sure.
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
100% agreed. Using PBO and curve optimizer are better for a lot of use cases! My curve optimizer video is a follow-up on the topic. Thank you for the comment!
@LOWMAYCHICKEN3 жыл бұрын
This is a great and informative video! I’m planning on using your first method to overclock the 5950x on ROG x570-I strix mobo. For rams, I will be using the new G.skill trident royal elite (2) 16gig 3600mhz CL14. Timings say it’s 14-14-14-34. Do you think it’s possible to run 4.4 gigahertz @ 1.25v with z73 aio? Building in the jonplus i100 pro.
@ihaschimken2 жыл бұрын
I have my 5950x at 4.4ghz with 1.1V ,with 360mm
@excaliber322 жыл бұрын
Great video mate really helpful 👍. I have a 5950x and with your video got 4.6 at 1.28v stable. With that voltage would this be fine to run as a daily.
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment! That voltage is fine for daily use. No issues there!
@excaliber322 жыл бұрын
@@UnhingedSystems great thats good to know 👍
@samrob20092 жыл бұрын
Not sure exactly what I did, but I saw on HWINFO64 that I had the maximum boost of my Ryzen 9 5950x was 5175.1 Mhz on 3 different cores. It stayed for a couple of seconds and dropped back down. All the other cores max boost was 5.0.
@NerdyTeK3 жыл бұрын
great video !
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
@jarsky3 жыл бұрын
I'm so confused by my R23 score and what im doing wrong. I have 5950X on a Crosshair VIII Hero, Curve Optimiser to -12/-25/-30, Boost Overclock +125, PPT 230 / TDC 170 / EDC 200. DDR4000 @ 3733Mhz CL15 (with FCLK of 1866Mhz), im hitting 87C @ 4.525Ghz all core with PBO, it seems im only hitting about 200-205W though. And just cant break 28500 R23 score. Is this a limit of not having a Dark motherboard?
@friddevonfrankenstein Жыл бұрын
Not only do your videos have the perfect amount of depth but you also seem to be a cat person. That gives you extra credit :D
@Zibz Жыл бұрын
Really good vid ;)
@UnhingedSystems Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate this 😊
@lewis21388 Жыл бұрын
I managed a manual clock of 4.6 at 1.263V (Auto) stable temps while gaming, highest I’ve seen is 75c. Not sure if I should consider that a lucky chip but pbo it’s very confusing to me when applying, it’s able to hit around 5mhz but when I boot into idle my temps are like 70c with using my gaming fan curve profile on fan control on top of constant voltage spikes. (Around 1.385-1.4 range) I know I sound dumb saying this but i legit don’t understand, I like the concept of curve optimiser but it hasn’t worked out so far until I put some time into trying again . 🤔
@nikolakovacevic40658 ай бұрын
The best video so good explained thx
@KRGraphicsCG2 жыл бұрын
This is great information and I assume this will also work on a Crosshair hero VIII. I'm using the 5950X for rendering and 3d modeling I want to squeeze as much as I can
@034G63EVO2 жыл бұрын
You could have made it farther with less voltage with an increase of Load Line Voltage. Anytime you crash Immediately, Its the spike thats killing it.
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
Great point! I did a lot of testing with load line calibration up to level 4 with no difference in stability. My chip is sadly less capable than other chips of the same model. Doesn't matter where I up the voltages, even SoC voltage increases made no difference 😒
@marianoramirez5435 Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@UnhingedSystems Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@marianoramirez5435 Жыл бұрын
@@UnhingedSystems You know, until today and for a few years now, I had a 3950X with a poor MasterAir MA410M. I do 3D rendering (I'm an architect), but this weekend, I will upgrade my workstation to the 5950X with the Noctua NH-D15 chroma black. I know it's not the same as your water cooling, but I want to give it a try, i think that maybe i will same some boost there. In any case, I'm already satisfied with the performance of the 3950X in Vray, so perhaps I can take advantage of the temperature headroom that the 5950X provides. You were so clear in your video; thanks for that. The last time I thought about overclocking my CPU was a while ago, back then in 2010, I guess, with the I7 930 and V6 GT. have a good day!
@UnhingedSystems Жыл бұрын
@@marianoramirez5435 Thank you for the awesome reply! I do suggest that you use a 360mm All-In-One liquid cooler for the 5950X for best results. The NH-D15 is a great cooler, but if you plan on increasing the power limits the results will be considerably better on an AiO. Rendering loves all the power you can provide it!
@marianoramirez5435 Жыл бұрын
@@UnhingedSystems Yeah! My next upgrade will be next year, hopefully, and there I will jump to the 7950X3D with a proper AIO. Thanks again; you were so clear with all the explanation. Saturday I will watch it again to make some tests.
@migueldegonzalo1 Жыл бұрын
Hey there, first thanks for the informative video :) now I want to ask, I managed to run 4,7 GHz at 1.328 volts, is it safe enough ? Thanks :)
@UnhingedSystems Жыл бұрын
Should be all good 👍 Just keep it well cooled 😎
@zBatos2 жыл бұрын
I have the exact same cpu and motherboard. Would I be able to just apply your best settings you found in this video to my build? 😁
@gh0sts0ld1er63 жыл бұрын
I've got a 5900x with roughly the same cooling system as you have. My idle Temps are around 45°C and in gaming around 75°C. I think this is pretty high for a water-cooled loop. Are yours this high as well?
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
Yes that is pretty normal. At stock settings I don't see higher than 65C (35-40C idle) in most cases but with some overclocking I can get as high as 75-79C while gaming. Anything under 80C is perfectly fine for the 5000 series CPUs, 90C is where the CPU will thermal throttle. I wouldn't sweat it at 75C. I did see a 9C temperature difference on the CPU peak temperatures by using a high-end thermal compound (Thermalright TFX). What thermal compound are you using?
@fredEVOIX3 жыл бұрын
im at work but i will give a full explanation later, temps at idle are very high since 3000 at least its the one weakness of amd, thers a way to kind of fix it using clock tuner ryzen more info later
@gh0sts0ld1er63 жыл бұрын
@@UnhingedSystems Thanks for pointing this out. I will try to switch paste and pads (based on your recent video) when I mount the active backplate for the graphics card.
@gh0sts0ld1er63 жыл бұрын
@@fredEVOIX would be nice to get those CPU temps and in effect my room cooler.
@fredEVOIX3 жыл бұрын
@@gh0sts0ld1er6 1)tried bios overclocking crashed all the time 2)tried PBO but it runs hotter at idle than benchmarking almost 3) found out about the app called Clock Tuner Ryzen CTR 2.1 RC5 (can find it on guru3d website) spent 1-2 week testing it and found the best result I could hope good single-multi and idle temps and watts, read my main comment about it under this video
@hmmmmm25553 жыл бұрын
awesome video and appreciate the detailed explanation of your entire process.
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@AlexJordanT Жыл бұрын
Is it safe overclocking the same cpu and Asus rog strix x570 E-gaming mobo?
@UnhingedSystems Жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@FlanK3rCZ2 жыл бұрын
I have golden sample by usmus software. I can run at same board 4650 MHz at 1.2V ♥️
@anthomatic422 жыл бұрын
What's the difference between both PBO menus? It's duplicated and I'm not quite sure the link between both. Thanks in advance 🙏
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
That's a great question! They both work, but the AMD overclocking menu seems to override items in the other menu. For good measure I only use the AMD overclocking menu and just ignore the other one. It was an odd choice for the BIOS to contain two places to change the same settings 🧐
@brokenintel3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video! Straight to the point and I finally unlocked the max potential of my chip. Do you recommend changing anything in the DIGI power tweaker section such as LLC etc?
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
I typically only recommend bumping up LLC is you are experiencing stability issues. LLC Level 2 or Level 3 can usually provide a bit more stability on some higher clocks. I find this to be more relevant with Intel chips. Manually OC'ing the 5950X I did not experience any difference using LLC or not on the Dark Hero board. The only difference was that a higher LLC resulted in a lower overall single-core boost in my case. LLC is important when the specific instability is related to the voltage drop as load is being applied. If the voltage drop is too high then the CPU will experience stability issues when load is applied. I found this to be an issue under full load after 4.75GHz all-core but LLC/SoC or any combination of settings was unable to overcome the problem.
@brokenintel3 жыл бұрын
@@UnhingedSystems Thanks again for the detailed responses! I have the same motherboard and CPU as you and today I messed a bit with the ASUS AI Suite Power tweaking. By changing CPU power phase and VDDSOC Phase to Ultra fast I was able to maintain 4.4 ghz at 1.275 V under 85 degrees with the Noctua NH D15
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
@@brokenintel What thermal paste are you using? The 5950X definitely runs hot on air, but you've got a very competent cooler.
@brokenintel3 жыл бұрын
@@UnhingedSystems second gen noctua paste
@MegaDarkTroll3 жыл бұрын
I have a Noctua nh-d15, I'm starting to think my thermal paste was applied incorrectly. 72c doing smallest FFTs for like 5 mins then CPU overtemp.
@Allex863 жыл бұрын
Nice video, i overclocked my 5950x 4.4 ghz 1.18 v and its stable, but i don't know is it safe to be always on 4.4 ? My temps are ok around 60 under load.
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
Perfectly safe as long as you are controlling your thermals. That's a solid chip if it does 4.4 all-core stable under 60. Have you tested full AVX2 workloads? That's usually where I find holes in stability.
@Allex863 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reply!! Your videos are the best so thank you for this)) yes and it is ok, i am using my computer only for rendering not gaming. I was rendering some animation 24 hours and evrything is ok, no blue screen ))and temperature is around 62-63.
@drwal_fosforyczny2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that just passing Cinebench run and having actually stable oveclock is a far cry...
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
Very true! It is very challenging to fit a lot of information into a video without it being an hour long 🙂 I'll be showing a whole gamut of tools in a 5900X video in January. OCCT is actually one of my favorites for CPU error detection. Cinebench is a nice light workload for a CPU, if it can't at least pass that then it's an instant fail. The real test is AVX2 instructions and heavy workloads. I'll also be explaining the whole 5GHz peak and why it doesn't mean much as sustained boost clocks are far more important! Thank you for the comment!
@Ozzyorcborne13 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I was wondering if you could make any suggestions regarding the 5600x. Currently I have it undervolted with an all core negative offset of 30 with memory on the its profile at 3600 MHZ 16-19-19-39. Is there anything else I can try doing (like an overclock) or is this sufficient? Thank you.
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
If you are getting a negative 30 offset stable on your CPU all-core then that is really good. Not much more you can do to tune PBO at that point. If you have a dynamic OC switcher on your board you could push an all-core overclock as well, but I would be pretty satisfied with the negative 30 offset if it is stable.
@Ayane13b2 жыл бұрын
Wow your 5950x hits WAY higher numbers in cinebench compared to me. Mine only gets 30,095 at 46.25 and 1.342 V. I can't complain, though. My 6900xt clocks high, and my ram also clocks very well. Can't win em all!
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! It really is a silicon lottery out there! You never know what you are going to get! That being said, stock for stock the hardware today is nothing short of amazing! What a time to be into tech!
@dennismatovich84112 жыл бұрын
well done, subd.
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@terolaitanen2 жыл бұрын
Loadline Calibration prevents your vdrop. Your actual volts were way under 1.4 due vdrop.
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, however, performance wise and stability wise I havent had issues on this build leaving load line calibration at default. Usually I do level 2 or 3 depending on the aggressiveness of the OC. Doesn't seem to matter with this build. Thank you for the comment!
@jonnytechno26623 жыл бұрын
i basicly copy / pasta your build, the dark hero board comes in at the end of this month
@dysnXO2 жыл бұрын
For me 44 with 1.25 works for custom 1 min cinebench, but with 10min throttle test, it restarts the pc. Does it need more voltage? Maybe I should do 44 with 1.325? ( I got ryzen 5950x with iCUE H170i ELITE LCD Liquid )
@FsdYT2 жыл бұрын
Mine runs at 1.4 with stock settings and i think when it boosts or something 😐 my cooler is Cooler master ml240 v2
@dersmoodoofreak3 жыл бұрын
Could I use your same settings on the same motherboard but just for the 5900x or would some tweaking be neccessary?
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
It will be very similar and should work for a good starting point on the 5900X. Because the 5900X has fewer cores it has a little more headroom for single-core and all-core overclocks.
@Ludimahudi3 жыл бұрын
I got an golden Sample and my cpu does 8 cores @4,8 ghz and the other 8 @ 4,675 ghz on 1,375V
@meppie19223 жыл бұрын
You should also check your Digi+ setting in bios and upper your soc voltage to 1.1
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
You can if it is needed. I tested dozens of different overclocks with and without SoC voltage at 1.1 and there was no difference at all in performance and stability. As with all CPUs and motherboards, mileage may vary.
@meppie19223 жыл бұрын
@@UnhingedSystems That might be but rule of thumb is to set 1.1 Soc after 3200 MHz for better stability. Also LLC (load line callibraton) to level 3 is the best option. I own Asus ROG board since the beginning from Ryzen and i can say that i know a lot about them and their behavior. Also get timings more tight or overclock your RAM to 4000 MHz could benefit performance. Im running my 5600X at 4.850 GHz and 4000 MHz RAM with CL16.
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
@@meppie1922 That's a rocking overclock! Agreed on all accounts for ultra-high end overclocks. I used LLC 3 on my Intel chips too. My 64GB RAM kit doesn't want to overclock a whole lot, even with extra voltage, but its solid for my workstation workloads. One of these days I'll do a pure overclock build for maximum record setting, just for fun.
@meppie19223 жыл бұрын
@@UnhingedSystems Thnx but that is all auto on my ROG crosshair x470 hero wifi :) I was running 3800 MHz cl16 on my Ryzen 5 3600 but it can run 4000 MHz at the same timings on my 5600x so that's amazing. The reason why you want to set manual voltage is due to vdroop and or voltage overshoot. Now BIOS's are much better but back in the x370 days the BIOS was bad at everything and you get tremendous voltage overshoot with potentially kill your CPU over time. So that is why i always say don't trust he BIOS, just set manual voltage and LLC just in case and for better performance in all instances. I will upload video soon about the overclock.
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
@@meppie1922 Overclocking is a lot easier now that we don't have to jump pins and move jumpers isn't it? How much RAM do you have? I know overclocking RAM to be much more successful with 2 DIMMs instead of 4, and easier on 16GB over 64GB due to memory controller strain. Thoughts?
@JB-NZ3 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant, I learnt so much more than all other videos I have watched, combined. Thank you for making this!
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! Thank you for watching!
@JB-NZ3 жыл бұрын
@@UnhingedSystems I have 5950x and Crosshair viii hero, not the dark hero like you. Annoyed as I have no switcher option like you.
@JB-NZ3 жыл бұрын
@@UnhingedSystems I am a little confused what I do without the Switcher option due to Hero not Dark Hero. I set Ratio to 44 and Voltage to 1.25V, and then also enabled PBO and set it to Motherboard. I then went into Extreme Tweaker and set the Core VID to 1.250 and CCX0 Ratios both to 45.0, and at this point I realised I didnt have the Switcher. I then got 28890 in Cinebench R23. I am just not 100% sure if this is right or if I should remove some of those settings due to no Switcher. When I look in Ryzen Master, the EDC (CPU) indicator shows 100% of 200A, is that normal? CPU Power is about 183W, PPT is about 55% of 395W, TDC is 60% of 225A, Peak Speed is 4500Mhz, Temperature during benchmark sitting about 79.5C. I will go and watch the video again to try and grasp it a bit more. Oh I am on full custom cooling, All EK gear, 2x 360 rads, Monoblock, etc.
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
@@JB-NZ Honestly if you don't have the OC switcher I would max out the power limits and just use PBO and curve optimizer. Losing the peak single-core boost isn't worth the manual overclock in my opinion. If you set a manual overclock you effectively disable PBO and the single-core boost. The CPU will boost between 4.35-4.5 with PBO on its own assuming motherboard power limits and tweaking curve optimizer.
@JB-NZ3 жыл бұрын
@@UnhingedSystems Thanks. Just confirming I understand what you mean. So you are saying I don't set 44 ratio and 1.25V at all (not just not setting the Core VID to 1.25 and the CLX0 ratios to 45.0 etc? Not 100% what those are anyway), but you think just leave everything on Auto and enable PBO? Isnt the voltage going to go quite high in this situation though? You had 3 parts to set, the Core stuff, the PBO, and then the Core VID. I did a Stock test (reset everything back to optimised defaults) and got 25187 in Multi and 1511 in Single. I then did a 44.5 ratio and 1.25V CPU Core, and enabled PBO and got 29273 Multi and 1461 Single (increased Multi but dropped lower in Single). So now I will try disabling the ratio and voltage totally, leaving those on Auto, and just enabling PBO ?
@BassmanMoto2 жыл бұрын
I just got the 5950x. I'd like to do a mild OC. Would it be beneficial to just do your starting point at 44.00? All the same voltage as well in that first step. I stream my gameplay, encode x264.
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
If you have the dynamic OC feature then 4.4 is a good starting point. If you do not have the dynamic OC feature I would recommend just tuning PBO and loosening the power limits enough to run 4.4 all-core while maintaining your peak single-core boost levels.
@colesym842 жыл бұрын
You can do all this with Hydra now, except you can have 1-N thread profiles and custom app profiles.
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
I'll be giving Hydra a try. 1usmus can do some pretty cool things, but I trust the AMD engineers know what they are doing even more.
@cmacthomas385211 ай бұрын
how do you know if you have a motherboard strong enough that you should choose motherboard as the PBO limit instead of disable???
@williams117gamer2 жыл бұрын
you should try project hydra, I have my R7 5800X - 4.45Ghz @1175mV
@Xequi2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!! Overclocked with precision boost overdrive the same processor on asus b450i gaming. Temps 81C with 16 cores 32 threads in use and improved calculation speed from 28000kt/s to 33000kt/s on monkersolver. Any idea why my system crashed even without any overclocks with DOCP 3200 speeds but not 3000 speed? Worked fine with my previous processor Ryzen 5 3600. Crashing occurs when running monkersolver with 32 threads. 3000 mhz everything works perfectly, works for a while with 3066 mhz and incrementally crashing occurs faster when upping Mhz. 3200 crashes instantly. Running Kingston FURY Beast RGB 64GB (2x32GB) 3200MHz DDR4 CL16. Doesn't matter if I use 5gb or 55 gb of the ram for calculations the crashing still occurs the same.
@SuperChaoticOne3 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit confused with the Dark Hero BIOS perhaps you can help. I've noticed there seem to be two sections with sometimes identical settings. One is the Extreme Tweaker and the other is the Advanced/AMD Overclocking. Do we need to set values in both of them? Sometimes I'm finding that the values I'm setting(eg. PBO Limits under Advanced/AMD Overclocking) aren't being detected by Ryzen Master in Windows, but when I use Extreme Tweaker in this case they are. It's quite confusing and I'm not sure which section I should be editing, is there any guide to this? Cheers
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
That's a solid question! I use only the Advanced/AMD Overclocking settings and everything works great in Ryzen Master (Everything in Extreme Tweaker PBO on auto). I'll do some further testing and maybe do a video on it especially since you seem to be getting the opposite results as me. I have read some people seeing actual performance differences between using Extreme Tweaker vs Advanced. What BIOS revision are you using?
@scottmcdonaldAAL2113 жыл бұрын
I'm running a 5950X on a Dark Hero, and it runs well at 1.35 v and 4800 ghz all cores (manual overclock using ryzen master). Thermals are reasonable as I don't do super intensive workloads, mainly web browsing main purpose is flight simulation (MSFS). In MSFS temps do not exceed 55C even at 4800 ghz all cores. Would you think this is a reasonable setup for me? I need the higher ghz for better/smoother performance in 4K rendering. Liked your video, and if I were as smart as you clearly are, I would utilize the dynamic overclock feature of the dark hero. I have not tried to go higher than 4800ghz. Initially I set it up 4800ghz at 1.4 volts, but after watching your video, I reduced it. Even at 1.4 v, the thermals were again very reasonable even with all 16 cores at 4800 ghz. Ram is 3600hz but I do not tweak ram settings as 3600 is theoretical sweet spot for the 5950X afaik. Appreciate any further guidance or suggestions. I don't normally do benchmarks. Have Corsair Capellix 360mm AIO and high airflow 5000D Corsair case. Liked and subbed! Very informative!
@UnhingedSystems3 жыл бұрын
I haven't played MSFS for about 8 years, but I have kept an eye on some of the performance benchmarks. MSFS definitely benefits greatly from having multiple cores, and it doesn't necessarily utilize the full cores. Looking at 4K performance the overclock doesn't seem to make a huge difference. 4800 all-core is pretty aggressive, but if it is running stable under 80C at load then all the better. Even with the best thermal paste my CPU won't clock to 4800 stable for all workloads without a huge amount of voltage. Test your FPS at stock vs your overclock and let me know what the FPS difference is. If there isn't a huge FPS difference vs stock then you would be better just letting PBO handle the boost, it would be more energy efficient. At 4K the game is GPU bound, not GPU bound, so the CPU overclock should make little difference overall. Happy to see you are getting such great results with your CPU! Not all silicon is create equally! Lucky! Thank you for the comment!
@TheHDReleaser Жыл бұрын
Intressant. I dont see any cpu core voltage on my motherboard. But everything else is same as yours
@brockbonner46072 жыл бұрын
Hi there, love the vid very helpful. I have the 570x rog crosshair VIII extreme. when I'm in the bios setting for (Max CPUboost clock override) it asks me if I want positive or negative which do I choose?. On your video you entered 125mhz but it didn't specify positive or negative
@RATTL3R1862 жыл бұрын
Only thing is you didn't mention where you had load line etc and other settings explained . Ma be in a earlier video I didn't see. But nicely done man
@jonnytechno26622 жыл бұрын
Do you run A.I. Suite 3? I have it running the motherboard, it controls my water pump and it can mess with the bios overclock settings. I also have ryzen master. I see you did everything manually, my system stays stable at 4.1Ghz with 1.2 volts. Do you think pushing it to 4.4 Ghz is worth it? thanks for all your' help again. have a nice day.
@UnhingedSystems2 жыл бұрын
I stopped using AI Suite a long time ago (Z170 days). I like the Fan Expert 3 tool for setting curves and profiles (though the custom ones never seem to stick). Personally I would use Ryzen Master (Video coming soon) or manually overclock. If 4.1 is stable and you still have thermal headroom (temps aren't getting above 80C mostly) then you could push it a little further. If you are gaming you are better off using PBO and setting higher power limits so you can get the single core boost clock speeds. If you are doing rendering workloads or other highly CPU intensive workloads then you may as well push for a higher stable all-core clock and see where the thermals are reasonable. PBO actually does quite an excellent job at tuning based on power limits.