Find Out The Price Of A Dragon TODAY! House Of Dragon Season 1 Episode 7 Reaction

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@YaBoyRockLee
@YaBoyRockLee 2 жыл бұрын
Of course you can’t steal a dragon….folks really stuck on that one. Given the circumstances. We say that because it was a shady move at an inappropriate time. I block hints and spoilers, fun facts that actually spoil! The show does a great job at explaining Early Uncut Reactions www.patreon.com/Yaboyrocklee we have a 🔥🔥🔥 lit discord discord.gg/bmYzgDz Schedule changes as other shows start or finish. Save the link. www.yaboyrocklee.com/schedule/ Follow on socials Twitch www.twitch.tv/yaboyrocklee 🔥 TWITTER twitter.com/YaBoyRockLee_
@badpope
@badpope 2 жыл бұрын
It was all planned. Daemon killed that random dude in the hallway so they could use his body for the switch.
@daquaviousbingleton9763
@daquaviousbingleton9763 2 жыл бұрын
It’s clearly not for one you can’t steal a dragon….
@YaBoyRockLee
@YaBoyRockLee 2 жыл бұрын
@@daquaviousbingleton9763 I saw the comments. Folks take our commentary literal. We have a lot jokes and banter with each other and folks take that serious. Which is fine. I was ignoring it but you came with the same comment under my pinned reply like you reaallly want us to know lol Of course he didn’t literally Steal the dragon. But we as a trio understood that he ran up and formed that bond at an inappropriate time. That’s why the kids are upset. He snuck out and binder with the dead mothers dragon, as guests of that family. Although it’s not technically stealing. Thats what I’d call it given the circumstances lol. It was Shady. That’s all it really was. We said Stealing though.
@bluefayery31
@bluefayery31 2 жыл бұрын
@@YaBoyRockLee He totally did steal those girls' mama's dragon. Those who are defending what aemond did, dont come to me and say, oh he did not steal it, he claimed it! You cant steal a dragon 😒 oh b!tch please, claiming things that isnt yours is STEALING! And just coz the owner died, makes it ok to steal things from her and her family!? Dafuq! Their mother just died, they are mourning, just had a funeral earlier that day, then u go out there stealing their mama's dragon at her house, with her daughters and her parents there! You disrespected their mama, disrespected the girls and their mama's house! You are at Driftmark u little sh!t! He just had a little taste of power, and now he bein a shit to this girls sayin that its him who took the dragon, that he's the new rider now, coz their mama's dead! And if the girls come for him he gonna feed them to his dragon, that he STOLE! Dafuq! Ill beat the sh!t out of your hightower face if you talk abt my mama like that, u piece of sh!t! Oh my God, im so invested in this show, i love this sh!t! 🤣🤣🤣 The kid actors in this series are awesome! They are great. I hope they have more episodes with those kids 🥰
@DirtyOldmanOG
@DirtyOldmanOG 2 жыл бұрын
@@YaBoyRockLee agreed. I just disagree with Alicent being seen as doing the right thing and her duty. We already saw what those things look like in GOT with character like Ned, Tyrion, and Jon. Her character is closer to Cersei or Jamie. Who didn’t do the right things, however they had a reason for doing what they did. Cersei started the war to protect their children from the truth and Alicent is starting one because she is afraid her sins will come back to haunt her. Let’s not forget she shouldn’t be queen and her father weasel her in there. It’s the root of the problem.
@kyutal920
@kyutal920 2 жыл бұрын
Both Rhaenrya and Daemon wanted Laenor out of the way but weren't going to kill him doing so. Laenor was planning to sacrifice his own happiness when he recommitted to the marriage, but Rhaenyra didn't want that. Rather than forcing Laenor to endure misery, Rhaenyra gave him an out that benefits both of them. Sucks for the one bystander though lmao.
@peepinR
@peepinR 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, a lot of people are ignoring the innocent man doing his job being murdered. Daemon and Rhaenyra shouldn't be praised for this. The realm will reject them eventually
@genericuser-1
@genericuser-1 2 жыл бұрын
It sucks for the innocent man that was brutally murdered and then had his corpse burned beyond recognition, it sucks for Rhaenys and Corlys who fully believe that both their children are dead back to back, it sucks for Laena and Harwin who had their memory disgraced with Daemon and Rhaenyra marrying right after she died, it sucks for the incest babies that will result from Rhaenyra and Daemon's marriage. It sucks for pretty much everyone that isn't Daemon, Rhaenyra, and the gay dudes.
@d3l3tes00n
@d3l3tes00n 2 жыл бұрын
@@peepinR I highly doubt the person had a great life or family around.
@d3l3tes00n
@d3l3tes00n 2 жыл бұрын
@@genericuser-1 Good. The system is absurd. If only everyone else had the balls to crush it.
@adlibconstitution1609
@adlibconstitution1609 2 жыл бұрын
@@peepinR When Alicent want eye for an eye on his son, the audience labeled her as "the evil queen hell spawn etc." But when Rhaenyra and Daemon planned to kill an innocent man the audience were ignoring it big time
@user-to3xz5yw5u
@user-to3xz5yw5u 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is Alicent is deeply unhappy because of her marriage to Viserys. She was sold out by her father almost as a child bride to the father of her best friend and forced to be a mother when she was not ready for any of that. She pretty much has had no agency at all for the things that happened with her life. So she sees Rhaenyra going against the rules and she resents her for it, because in her mind Rhaenyra should be silent and accept everything in the same way she has, she thinks both of them should be suffering stuck in their places. She turns all of her resentment and anger over her unhappiness towards Rhaenyra and lets it grow and grow. And that is what is really sad about it because Alicent's unhapiness is not Rhaenyra's fault. Everything that has happened to Alicent was motivated by Otto's greed for power, he doomed her.
@ValidescopeWest
@ValidescopeWest 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m always like Alicent’s suffering is at the hands of her own father. And it’s not fair that she hasn’t turned her anger on Otto. He put her in that position KNOWING if Viserys had a son with his daughter that there would be some sort of rebellion or uprising because Rhaenyra is a woman. So basically Otto purposely put his daughter and his future grandchildren in harms way of a future war. And then he made Alicent think that Rhaenyra would kill her and her kids. And there is no where so far to prove she would do that. Even letting Laenor be happy and free, she came up with a plan to spare his life cause she loves him. So yeah I’m never on Otto’s side and I can’t help but look at Alicent sideways because she is blaming Rhaenyra for a miserable life that her father put her into.
@oberon9015
@oberon9015 2 жыл бұрын
Very well said; I agree with every point.
@kimberleymorrison4781
@kimberleymorrison4781 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! Perfectly stated.
@mcahmad
@mcahmad 2 жыл бұрын
And dont dorget rhaenyra being the heir is all because otto wanted to get rid of daemon
@iconoclast6555
@iconoclast6555 2 жыл бұрын
That is correct, at least until episode 5. In episode 5, Alicent learned from Larys Strong that the King himself gave Plan B Tea to Rhaenyra. That means in Alicent's mind, the King knew that Otto was not in the wrong and yet he still fired him. All the while Alicent vouched for Rhaenyra. So, at that point, Alicent knew that her father have always been correct. That was the time for her to trust her own side of the family instead of her lying friend. And from that point on, she knew that for the King and Rhaenyra, her side of the family are only second. Which was proven this episode when the King sided with Rhaenyra and her children. That's why I don't believe jealousy is Alicent's motivation anymore. It has become much more than that since episode 5. She now really believes that Rhaenyra could put her children to the sword if Rhaenyra pushes for her ascension to the throne, and she believes that even more now that Rhaenyra's children got away scot free with permanently disabling her son.
@symonew33
@symonew33 2 жыл бұрын
Alicent has every reason and right to be angry but the people she needs to be angry at are her father and husband. They are the people that didn’t take her wants and needs into consideration before they pimped her out and made her have a bunch of babies. Rhaenyra living her life and trying to find happiness where she can is not the cause of Alicent’s unhappiness.
@johnwalkeristhatdude3018
@johnwalkeristhatdude3018 2 жыл бұрын
Viserys did not order Alicent to comfort him that’s Otto let’s go off facts and not ur feelings please
@Lollordedk
@Lollordedk 2 жыл бұрын
Why is Rhaenyra wrong for not wanting to run away with Criston Cole? Would you give up your throne, your title and the great weight that is left from generation to generation for love or desire? It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard
@likhitashakya
@likhitashakya 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra is not wrong for wanting to be queen but she expected Leanor to leave behind the kids , his inheritance, his family so that she could marry Daemon. True Leanor was ok with it but her asking of Leanor which she wasn't willing to do herself makes her selfish and kind of a hypocrite.
@thaispereira7311
@thaispereira7311 2 жыл бұрын
@@likhitashakya Laenor was not happy married to her. So she let him free the way he always wanted. He wanted to help her and he saw the best way was her marry Daemon. And her father named her heir and talked to her about how much responsability it was the be the heir. She cant just run away with Sir Criston so he can clean his conscience.
@Caraxes_RoguePrince
@Caraxes_RoguePrince 2 жыл бұрын
She didn’t love criston tho so her running away would be for nothing lol they wouldn’t last together that way and she would end up feeling alone.
@Caraxes_RoguePrince
@Caraxes_RoguePrince 2 жыл бұрын
@@likhitashakya don’t make her a hypocrite tbh laenor left for love and happiness with criston rhaenyra would have neither lol she didn’t love him and she wouldn’t be happy doing the things he wanted to do.
@Lollordedk
@Lollordedk 2 жыл бұрын
@@likhitashakya Laenor tells her that she needs a husband and clearly he never will be, I believe from that point on they both came up with the plan, Rhaenyra and Laenor loved each other as a family and supported each other, this was the best decision, Laenor was not happy with his life.
@nkijes24
@nkijes24 2 жыл бұрын
Once a dragon is bonded to you that's it. Even if they wanted Vaeghar back she would have just followed Aemon everywhere. Dragons only bind with one rider and they will refuse all others until that rider dies. So there's really nothing anyone could have done to get Vaeghar back other than killing Aemon. That kid scored big time.
@jac_o7
@jac_o7 2 жыл бұрын
Lets see how they cover this plot hole with Sea Smoke and Laenor since they decided not to actually kill him off for the sake of not making Rhaenyra look bad, unless they plan on making Laenor come back eventually
@iRival20
@iRival20 2 жыл бұрын
@@jac_o7 something tells me they'll just overlook it and it'll bond with someone else regardless
@demirkazanasmaz6097
@demirkazanasmaz6097 2 жыл бұрын
@@jac_o7 seasmoke will not be included in dance probably
@MN-vz8qm
@MN-vz8qm 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah as I wrote elsewhere in the comment that is a huge win. Aemon didn't just win "a dragon", but THE dragon, one of the 3 aegon the conqueror came with originately. When the civil war will start, this monster will murder the other dragons.
@jac_o7
@jac_o7 2 жыл бұрын
@@iRival20 which would be pretty dumb, but I guess it’ll work since most people watching are casuals and wouldn’t think about it, even though it was stated in the previous episode with the kids and the dragons
@wonnie8549
@wonnie8549 2 жыл бұрын
Why would she get out of her duties when she really wants to be queen. Laenor didn’t want those responsibilities so he can easily be sent away
@christiancallahan348
@christiancallahan348 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you mad at Rhaenyra for Leanor leaving? In theory they both got what they wanted so you should be glad that Leanor got out and is able to just go live his life and be happy. It was pretty clear that he just wasn't meant for this life anyway.
@thaispereira7311
@thaispereira7311 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly.OMG.
@tuxedomask4masc
@tuxedomask4masc 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra knew Laenor is gonna be unhappy and depressed with her so she helped him and his lover live free in another country.. why are they mad lol like, she didnt even have to do all that she could just k1ll him but she didnt 😭
@Victor-oc3kx
@Victor-oc3kx 2 жыл бұрын
@@tuxedomask4masc The only issue I have with his escape, is that Leanor is going to leave his parents beleaving he's dead just after loosing their daughter.
@comicbooknerd3570
@comicbooknerd3570 2 жыл бұрын
@@Victor-oc3kx lol true it’s kinda fucked up ngl
@sunflower3823
@sunflower3823 2 жыл бұрын
“live his life and be happy” he now has no dragon, no family and no power. the only thing he gains from leaving is not being killed
@joeycognition8824
@joeycognition8824 2 жыл бұрын
Targaryens are of Valyrian descent, when they say “from the blood of old Valyria” they’re talking about their ancestral home which was destroyed centuries ago. Around that time every house had dragons really because the race had a magical connection to them that’s how they could control them…. Fun fact: House Targaryen wasn’t even a major house in their homeland, just a minor one…
@kingrobertii231
@kingrobertii231 2 жыл бұрын
The Velaryon’s weren’t for example
@alexandrejosedacostaneto381
@alexandrejosedacostaneto381 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda. The Targaryens were one of the 40 Dragonlord families, which were the most powerful of Valyrian houses. They we're one of the weakest Dragonlord families, but were still Dragonlords. The Velaryons, the Celtigars and the Valyrian families in Volantis, Lys and Myr were from Valyrian families which didn't have dragons and were below the dragonlords.
@nickerson1971
@nickerson1971 2 жыл бұрын
So they were the House Tarly of Old Valaria.
@joeycognition8824
@joeycognition8824 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bayard1503 If their were that many houses with dragons I’m pretty sure their were a lot of dragons back then.
@joeycognition8824
@joeycognition8824 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexandrejosedacostaneto381 Of course they are, I’m just stating they weren’t considered a powerful house. It’s what the books say
@user-io4bm3ff5b
@user-io4bm3ff5b 2 жыл бұрын
Cole didn't love Rhaenyra, watch the scene again when he asks her to leave. When she turns him down the truth comes out it was all about him and his honor.
@oberon9015
@oberon9015 2 жыл бұрын
Even if Cole did love Rhaenyra because they had sex once...it's still crazy to hold on to resentment for 10 years. I love the takes I've seen that if Criston were around today that he would be part of the red pill woman hating online movement.
@indieviolet7702
@indieviolet7702 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you finally someone says it!
@user-io4bm3ff5b
@user-io4bm3ff5b 2 жыл бұрын
@@oberon9015 You're right It's batshit crazy he still holds a grudge over a night stand a decade ago. I was just pointing out that people think his proposal was this romantic gesture when actually it was all about himself. Even the actor says Cole is a thug.
@oberon9015
@oberon9015 2 жыл бұрын
​@Supriya Mukherjee Criston is a bitter and petty manchild there as well. Remember, he killed Joffrey "in a black fury" after he requested Rhaenyra's favor and she turned him down.
@oberon9015
@oberon9015 2 жыл бұрын
​@Supriya Mukherjee My post was about the book where he threw a tantrum and killed a man for association with Rhaenyra. If Criston were the bastion of honor that friggin Mushroom claimed him to be, he wouldn't have flown into a fury and tried to beat Rhaenyra's knights to death just because Rhaenyra wanted to have sex with him. That's actually worse than in the show where you can at least interpret it that Criston viewed Joffrey as having threatened him.
@Sarahfierce8
@Sarahfierce8 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how people still shocked of how Viserys refuse to admit that Rhaenyra’s children are bastards ! Of course he won’t admit it . Not only he loves Rhaenyra the most & she’s his first born child and was his only child for along time and she is the only thing that left of his wife Aemma . If he admits he have to kill her and her children so I’m soooo confused how people are still shocked
@oberon9015
@oberon9015 2 жыл бұрын
For some reason, people think Viserys is blind to the truth when in reality he is just putting up a strong front to keep his family safe.
@AaronGuest
@AaronGuest 2 жыл бұрын
He wouldn't have to kill them just exile them, or disinherit them. Viserys is just weak.
@AaronGuest
@AaronGuest 2 жыл бұрын
@@oberon9015 If thats what he thinks then he is dumb.
@oberon9015
@oberon9015 2 жыл бұрын
@@AaronGuest He's not weak; he just wants Rhaenyra to inherit his throne. Dealing with this fallout instead of disinheriting Rhaenyra is the opposite of weak I think since he is taking a harder path for her sake.
@darrenasoppiah8809
@darrenasoppiah8809 2 жыл бұрын
@@oberon9015its not fair though, rhynera can fuck her bodyguards and have brown haired bastards while by all rights he should disinherit them and her for treason but according to lyonel kill them. so at least disinherit the kids and have aegon be after her
@kimberleymorrison4781
@kimberleymorrison4781 2 жыл бұрын
Laenor loves and accepts those boys as his own. There’s no honor in Corlys accepting them too and keeping them as his heirs???
@oberon9015
@oberon9015 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm with you. I thought it was pretty wholesome that Corlys accepts them as family and has no issue with them inheriting from him.
@ncblock87
@ncblock87 2 жыл бұрын
And 5 minutes later, he leaves them forever lmao.
@beden653
@beden653 2 жыл бұрын
​@@ncblock87 it's better for them. Daemon will defend them
@robertwalker1001
@robertwalker1001 2 жыл бұрын
This is called adoption. The only reason Alicent keeps bring it up is discredit Rhanyera to try and place her son on the throne.
@scaryperi3051
@scaryperi3051 2 жыл бұрын
@@beden653 It's better for Rhaenyra and Daemon, not for Laenor's children, parents, and nieces. Daemon, Rhaenyra, Carl, and Laenor himself all conspired to commit murder in order to fake the last's death, all while letting his family think he's dead. Just so Daemon and Rhaenyra could selfishly marry. Ah, yes, Daemon, a man who murdered his wife in cold blood to be free of her and gain her inheritance; this is the man you think would be a good father figure to Rhaenyra' children.
@arunabhsrivastava7841
@arunabhsrivastava7841 2 жыл бұрын
Y'all there's no stealing a dragon, if a dragon accepts you then only it listens to you, so in a way, the dragon chooses you, and in the book I think viscerys poked Aemond that try to claim one of the dragons if you want it so bad and guess what he claimed the baddest
@sunnyboyjr2611
@sunnyboyjr2611 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, people seem to have the delusion that vhagar was on a side but after a dragon loses their rider their basically wild and anyones for the taking and even then most times the dragon kills them.
@iliboxic7586
@iliboxic7586 2 жыл бұрын
It's just like people not getting that Rhaegal wasn't the property of the mad princess but bonded with Jon.
@iconoclast6555
@iconoclast6555 2 жыл бұрын
Viserys told him that he could get one of the dragon eggs in the volcano if he is bold enough. Aemond took that as a challenge and took Vhagar instead. Boy is more of a menace than Daemon honestly. The real rogue prince.
@oberon9015
@oberon9015 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah there was no theft. Vhagar just sensed Aemond's inner gangster.
@iconoclast6555
@iconoclast6555 2 жыл бұрын
@@oberon9015 Yep, if we analyze Vhagar's riders- Visenya, a warrior queen, obviously ambitious. Baelon, a great warrior, obviously ambitious. Laena,, been looking for Vhagar since 12yo, and was telling Daemon to return to Westeros because "hes more than this", clearly another ambitious character. Aemond, another ambitious personality. Vhagar loves that kind of bold and ambitious personality. Rhaena just didn't have it in her. If she was bold and ambitious, she would have claimed her after Laena died. You snooze, you lose.
@oberon9015
@oberon9015 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised ya'll are against Corlys here. I actually had respect for his stance of "if my son says those boys are his kids then those are my grandsons and I'll give them everything I can."
@TheImaginationRealm
@TheImaginationRealm 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@likhitashakya
@likhitashakya 2 жыл бұрын
Corlys only cares about the name those boys carried and what it would mean for his house. while Rhenys cared about her own flesh and blood ie Leana's true daughters rather than their political power.
@oberon9015
@oberon9015 2 жыл бұрын
@@likhitashakya Caring about Laenor's sons and caring about Laena's daughters are not mutually exclusive.
@TheImaginationRealm
@TheImaginationRealm 2 жыл бұрын
@@likhitashakya he cares about all 4 grandkids regardless if 2 of them are step-grandkids or not biological
@NerdyQueen1234
@NerdyQueen1234 2 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@ToyotasupraYT616
@ToyotasupraYT616 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra granted Laenor freedom that she cannot have, she is a Targaryen and the secret that was given to her is worth more than anything that is why she cant leave. But Laenor is unhappy and she granted him happiness. Btw you have to give props to the Valyrian fathers in this show, Viserys and Corlys really loves their pure Valyrian kids, to their demise perhaps (they grew up spoiled)
@ramonserna8089
@ramonserna8089 2 жыл бұрын
She could have leaved at any time. There are 3 people who can suceed the throne. She just didnt want to because deep down she is always a spoiled brat.
@blueyeshadow2738
@blueyeshadow2738 2 жыл бұрын
@@ramonserna8089 her dad entrusted this secret to her. It’s a duty that she takes seriously, like she said, the iron throne is bigger than her and anyone else. Sure there could be other heirs but she was specifically chosen by her father for this
@ramonserna8089
@ramonserna8089 2 жыл бұрын
@@blueyeshadow2738 She can resign and any of her brothers can fullfil the same role. Much easier even since they are males in a patriarchal society.
@slayerr3086
@slayerr3086 2 жыл бұрын
I know you’re not talking about giving Viserys the deadbeat props for being a good father 💀
@Cangeltibon
@Cangeltibon 2 жыл бұрын
3:50 really? Being okay with murder vs being in a consensual extra martial relationship that you and your husband agreed too.
@kallistacross
@kallistacross 2 жыл бұрын
well laenor wanted to leave without rhaenyra. criston wanted rhaenyra to leave with him. and it’s fair for her to not want to leave everything behind for him. but laenor clearly wanted to.
@psycho9815
@psycho9815 2 жыл бұрын
Like why would she live her duties behind for a guy? Or did everyone forget aegon prophecy of them white zombies gusting out of the distant north?
@psycho9815
@psycho9815 2 жыл бұрын
Criston was being selfish because they had a one night stand 😅😅
@thatoneblackdude3333
@thatoneblackdude3333 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly not only that rhenerya was entrusted with aegons prophecy she's literally obligated to stay because the throne is bigger then her and her desires the fate of the world is a stake she can't just run away.
@psycho9815
@psycho9815 2 жыл бұрын
@Supriya Mukherjee whatever your politics are please keep them to yourself because am not fucken interested
@lantzvasquez
@lantzvasquez 2 жыл бұрын
Its crazy how they don't see how much dirt the Hightowers side is responsible for they are just better at hiding it and are self righteous about it. Both sides have done wrong but to be riding so hard for just the hightowers is just crazy to me lol
@atypical1242
@atypical1242 2 жыл бұрын
It’s unfair and frankly silly to lump Otto and Alicent together. Otto is the root cause.
@mermaidonwheels
@mermaidonwheels 2 жыл бұрын
aemond shifted the blame off his mother to aegon because he know the punishment that his brother would face wouldn’t be as servir as his mother would. he’s very mature for a 10 year old.
@marti9734
@marti9734 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly he was a pro protecting Alicent.. and that do not mourn me mom and the hug. He was cutie in that scene
@Dec4AllTimeAlways
@Dec4AllTimeAlways 2 жыл бұрын
Pay attention to how Rhaenyra and Alicent are acting as mothers. Alicent is only repeating what her father did to her. Push Aegon to the throne when he doesn't want it . He's only 13 and is using alcohol to cope from his mom's abuse.
@Al-ji4gd
@Al-ji4gd 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, ok Daemon.
@robertwalker1001
@robertwalker1001 2 жыл бұрын
I see too many parallels between Cersei and Alicent for me to be team Alicent. Neither one wanted to marry the king. Both demanded blood for their son being harmed. Alicent even called Rhaenyra's children savages even though she knew her son was the ring leader. Alicent is a horrible person, hiding behind some cloak of righteousness. The fact that Otto is the hand again and Larys is not dead lets you know she didn't lose much sleep over Lord Strong's murder.
@Al-ji4gd
@Al-ji4gd 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertwalker1001 They're not even remotely similar. What are you talking about?
@robertwalker1001
@robertwalker1001 2 жыл бұрын
@@Al-ji4gd Alicent is a lair. She's been a lair since episode 2 when she pretended to not be courting the king. She wanted to be queen as much as Cersei did. She wants her son to be king. She doesn't care to much about her husband's, the king, authority. She's lucky Viserys would never "honor" her like King Robert "honored" Cersei's face. She's not above the hand of the king dying to ensure her son becomes king. I could keep going.
@Al-ji4gd
@Al-ji4gd 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertwalker1001 When did she pretend to not court the king lol? How do you even pretend to do that? Firstly, it was Otto who pushed her to be queen, her becoming queen was just a consequence of that. Guess what? Rhaenyra also wants to be queen as much as Cersei did. Alicent wants her song to be king, yes, and Rhaenyra wants her son to be king one day. What of it? As for the hand of the king dying, that was clearly something Larys did on his own. Alicent actually has a point about a lot of things despite being bitter and a malign influence to her kids. Cersei was just a lying, scheming idiot. They have very little in common. I could also keep going.
@StitchGV
@StitchGV 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t just about being broke for Rhaenyra, it’s about her duty to her father and the kingdom. She’s the heir. All the lords knelt to her. She has to be queen. And Ser Criston wanted her to just abandon her duties to her family and kingdom, just because he didn’t feel honorable after having sex with her. Now he calls her a ¢un+ and treats her children like shit just because she wouldn’t marry him.
@oberon9015
@oberon9015 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the ending of episode 4 is what seals the deals if nothing else. Even after she fucks up, Viserys shows her the prophecy on the knife, confirms he still wants her as heir, and tells her he doesn't really care about what she did accept that he know that optics matter. There was no way Rhaenyra was walking away after that.
@Caraxes_RoguePrince
@Caraxes_RoguePrince 2 жыл бұрын
Plus she didn’t love criston so she would be running off for nothing lol
@ssaha7947
@ssaha7947 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly... disgusting
@mori1bund
@mori1bund 2 жыл бұрын
Criston Cole is a p*ssy! Instead of manning up and taking responsibility for his actions he's playing the victim card and blaming others for his own mistakes like a whiny b*tch.
@Al-ji4gd
@Al-ji4gd 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra defenders will do anything to simp for their queen. If Laenor can abandon his duties, why couldn't she? The realm won't accept her anyway, even the lords who knelt.
@beoborf8877
@beoborf8877 2 жыл бұрын
Daemon also killed someone else create a fake body. And Rhaenyra knows, that's the whole point of "see offers an escape", "our enemies will whisper I was somehow responsible", "let them whisper, we will know the truth" dialogue. As for "Alicent never doing wrong", I really wonder what do you think keeping around oathbreakers and kinslayers for being useful to her as she keeps committing treason on a daily basis is. She has been sabotaging the crown and breaking the rules left right and center. She is not "less bad", she is delusionally self-righteous, ignoring and justifying her crimes. Meanwhile Rhaenyra's real crime is, what? Sleeping with someone she likes?
@thaispereira7311
@thaispereira7311 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@oberon9015
@oberon9015 2 жыл бұрын
I literally just made the same comment. Alicent supports Criston and Larys the murderers but acts like Rhaenyra is the worst person in Westeros because she had sex outside her marriage. She's really running on pure jealousy because she's had to plank for Viserys all these years and he still prefers his first wife.
@AaronGuest
@AaronGuest 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra is literally committing the highest treason on a daily basis, by knowingly posing her bastards off as legitimate kids, knowing it would lead to war. Alicent's only crimes are speaking the truth and caring for her kids.
@lightvale
@lightvale 2 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!!!
@oberon9015
@oberon9015 2 жыл бұрын
Criston: _Breaks his vows then beats a man's head in for no reason._ Alicent: "Don't worry baby, I got you. Just stay at my side." Larys: _Burns his family for profit._ Alicent : "Stay close. I might you need for some more dirt later." Rhaenyra: _Has premarital sex and children out of wedlock_ Alicent: HOW DARE YOU ENJOY YOUR LIFE WHILE I HAVE TO BE MISERABLE!?? I just cannot be an Alicent supporter. Rhaenyra is right; Alicent is a self righteous hypocrite who has made it her life's mission to see Rhaenyra brought low out of pure jealousy. She thinks Viserys lets Rhaenyra get away with too much but is totally blind to the fact that Viserys also allows her the same liberty to the point where she received no punishment for trying to carve a child's eye out and injuring the heir. Despite what she screamed at Rhaenyra, we know Alicent doesn't actually care about duty and the law because of the company she keeps. If she practiced what she preached she wouldn't have made Criston her personal bodyguard and let him face consequences, and she would have reported Larys immediately. She's legit just a bitter resentful hater.
@thaispereira7311
@thaispereira7311 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect. Rhaenyra is no saint but Alicent is a big hypocrit.
@psycho9815
@psycho9815 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you took the words right out of my mouth
@iconoclast6555
@iconoclast6555 2 жыл бұрын
The impact to the realm of what Ser Criston and Larys did is very miniscule compared to Rhaenyra mothering bastards, which is essentially high treason. That has a huge impact to the realm because her claim was already shaky from the start because of her gender, and now she's gonna be challenged 10x harder because it's so obvious that her children, and therefore the next in line to her, are bastard children. If she wanted to continue fulfilling her desires, she could have at least kept taking plan B tea so that she won't mother children, but she's too careless, as if she doesn't have one of the biggest responsibilities in the realm. And since it's true anyway that she and Laenor tried to have legitimate children, they could have just simply went with that true story that their marriage simply fail to produce heirs. She has no obligation now to produce heirs because there are now more people in the line of succession because Aegon, Daemon, and Daeron exists. She didn't have to mother bastards at all. She could have fulfilled her wish and ascended the Iron Throne without any children and have Aegon as her successor. That would have been the best way to placate both the blacks and the greens and avoided the civil war. But since she mothered bastards, the situation has reached a point of no return.
@Elmonsoon
@Elmonsoon 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this. Exactly this.
@mamadouniang8208
@mamadouniang8208 2 жыл бұрын
for criston i agree but not for larys , after he burn is familly she didn't even want to look at him the reason she want him close to her know is beceause he is one of the only who he willing to take her side. alicent is jealous to rhaenyra to a extent but she is way more scared for her children live , you have to see by her pov ,how can she trust rhaenyra about not killing is children when she was lied to about somthing important when her and rhaenyra were suppose to be friend again ? (yes she lied to but in her mind she was force to by her father while rhyenera lied for no reason ( and she was catch very easly , not even 2 or 3 question and cole give it all and larys has seen the maester ). how can she trust rhaenyra for not killing his son when her son lose a eyes by one of rhaenyra son and the response of rhaenyra for that is basically "well he deserve it , he says my sons are bastard" , it's not like everyone already knew it is the truth. alicent is not perfect but rhaenyra is as worse as her , christon cole,deamon,her bastard , litteraly all the problem she has is her own fault ,all the problem she has are because she can't keep her legs close and she never take accountability for all the things she do, she keep doing stupid things because she is allow to do wathever she want and is never punish for it . but i practically never see a reactor call out the BS rhaenyra had done when she put herself in pratically all the probleme she has . ps:sorry for my bad english.
@thelightwarriordiariesxsup6781
@thelightwarriordiariesxsup6781 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra gave Laenor exactly what he wanted!
@Kilonzo8811
@Kilonzo8811 2 жыл бұрын
Do y’all realize this all stared with Otto getting daemon disinherited and finessing his daughter to have the kings sons so his family could be on the throne!!! And Alicent knows about the murder of the strongs and has said nothing!!! Alicent does not care bout the rules she is genuinely angry that she can’t be free like rhanerya who is the HEIR there shouldn’t even be a question but Otto created all of these events since episode 1😂😂 I highly doubt the hightowers are the heros in this situation 😂😂
@georgiadufresne3360
@georgiadufresne3360 2 жыл бұрын
@Supriya Mukherjee BUT WHY IS SHE TAKING IT OUT ON RHEA, WHEN THE PERSON WHO PUT ALICENT IN THE POSITION SHE IS IS HER FATHER, OTTO HIGHTOWER!?! For me that's the crux of the problem with the greens, you don't want people to go by the rules you want people to go by your rules because they're going to change the rules to suit the game for them to win. The king has named his daughter Heir, then married her to a gay man who was sterile, and the kids came out of her coochie so they are targaryens and have dragons. It doesn't matter that the Hightowers don't like it, Rhae is her father's Heir, again because of Otto Hightower; get over it.
@r.gvandaele9652
@r.gvandaele9652 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgiadufresne3360 I agree!! I dont think that person you are replied to understands the story. I am surprised they didnt make alicent as cruel as how she is in the books. I heard from readers she is as bad as cersei. 🤷🏻‍♀️
@Midnightempress594
@Midnightempress594 2 жыл бұрын
I agree this all started because of Otto's self-interest. I can understand alicents behaviour to a certain degree because she believes she is doing what's right to protect her children as any mother would. I person just don't like alicent because of her self righteous and judgemental personality. I don't agree that alicent has any right to be upset with rhanerya for lying. 1) alicent lied to her/ kept things from her about her relationship with her father (doesn't matter if she was forced to if ur looking at things from rhanerya's pov) 2) they had a falling out because of that lie and they had just recently somewhat reconnected as friends but can you say their relationship was fully healed (not a book reader). 3) just look at the way alicent approached rhaenyra. If that was me and my 'friend' came to me in that manner I was not going to confide in her about anything 4) rhaenyra is aware of alicent's personality, her telling her the truth would have probably made things worse or things would have still ended up being the same way as it is now between them. 5) alicent's father was plotting against rhaenyra and was actively try to get alicent's son on the throne instead of rhaenyra. Any smart person would have lied to alicent
@Millenial_Minuteman
@Millenial_Minuteman 2 жыл бұрын
Y'all's girl homie is tripping, alicent didn't snitch out the Kings guard for fucking the princess, AND she sewing the seeds of civil war which WILL lead to THOUSANDS dead.
@lightvale
@lightvale 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but Alicent's life being miserable is no one's fault but her father. I don't know why people get angry because Rhaenyra chose or tried to make hers not be like that.
@phamngockieumy
@phamngockieumy 2 жыл бұрын
it’s also the fault of the society that force young girls to be the pawns of grownup’s political gains.
@daquaviousbingleton9763
@daquaviousbingleton9763 2 жыл бұрын
@@phamngockieumy so are men lol the only difference is it’s usually older men who make them chess pieces
@anhkriva5274
@anhkriva5274 2 жыл бұрын
@@phamngockieumy Not just girls, all the high noble/royal kids are merchandise in the eyes of adults. Otto tried to marry Aegon when he was 2 years old.
@robertwalker1001
@robertwalker1001 2 жыл бұрын
@@phamngockieumyIt doesn't just happen to the girls. Neither Daemon nor Leanor married the people they wanted. Joffery didn't want to marry Sansa but was told by Cersei that he had to. Its part of being a noble, and if you don't like it you can run away like Leanor.
@phamngockieumy
@phamngockieumy 2 жыл бұрын
@robertwalker1001 but girls are not just pawns, they’re also servants, baby making machines, nannies. there were more customs and traditions that people held over girls and their social expectations were higher. yes joffrey was forced to marry sansa but sansa was the one who was raped and beaten. so not really the same.
@atlasamadeus6558
@atlasamadeus6558 2 жыл бұрын
Corylys line would literally die out in name if the daughter's inherit
@saxonkush2376
@saxonkush2376 2 жыл бұрын
True
@hectormiranda1088
@hectormiranda1088 2 жыл бұрын
I mean that could've been solved easily, all Corlys had to do was to name one of his granddaughters as heir and then marry her to one of her cousins (there are many true Velaryons around that age)
@LS13.
@LS13. Жыл бұрын
Viserys pissed me off so bad- HIS SON lost an eye literally and he cared more about his grandsons being called a name …….. that isn’t a great father who favors one child over another
@mcallister..b8891
@mcallister..b8891 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine hating someone just because they're not as boring as you team BLACK all the way
@Dec4AllTimeAlways
@Dec4AllTimeAlways 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad the showrunners are really putting more emphasis on the children because they play a pivotal role in this civil war. It's very Cobra Kai-ish. The kids fighting is really showing a reflection of what their parents are doing.
@WolfWinter
@WolfWinter 2 жыл бұрын
No disrespect but you missed the subtext of the eulogy.... when Vaemond talks about Velaryon blood he looks very pointedly at Rhaenyra and her children. Everyone noticed. Daemon laughed to take the focus off of them.
@jimjimcherie
@jimjimcherie 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! No one seems to get this. No one seems to realize how Daemon has always been looking out for Rhaenyra and has been her most fervent supporter.
@NebulasOnyx
@NebulasOnyx 2 жыл бұрын
It’s still disrespectful
@xerex21212
@xerex21212 2 жыл бұрын
@@NebulasOnyx Disrespectful to whom ? No dead person has ever complained about being disrespected.
@iliboxic7586
@iliboxic7586 2 жыл бұрын
@@xerex21212 Laena would be proud about Daemon protecting the honor of her brother.
@NebulasOnyx
@NebulasOnyx 2 жыл бұрын
@@xerex21212 The two remaining daughters...HIS daughters...of the dead. The two alive parents who glared at him for disrespecting their daughters funeral in front of their kids. If you missed that part....
@lauramuller6112
@lauramuller6112 2 жыл бұрын
I think most people don't realize how complicated Rhaenyra's position in regards of heirs was. If she had no heirs her claim would be even more easily challenged. People would start to dismiss her as "barren" and would question the point of a future queen with no heirs after years of marriage. She was basically in a damned if you do damned if you don't situation. As of now having heirs with questionable legitimacy but who are accepted and recognized by the king, Laenor and Corlys is better than having no heirs at all.
@darrenasoppiah8809
@darrenasoppiah8809 2 жыл бұрын
no having bastard chiildren is way worse as lyonel strong said its punishable by death for her and the kids so challenged and death is way different
@aimanmarzuqi4804
@aimanmarzuqi4804 2 жыл бұрын
@@darrenasoppiah8809 Having a bastard children is a risk she was willing to take to ensure she stays as heir. Also claiming the illegitimacy of the children of heir apparents has long been a common political strategy, its not something that is impossible to defend.
@psycho9815
@psycho9815 2 жыл бұрын
@@darrenasoppiah8809 she was put in an impossible position though because she was forced to marry a gay man for political gain and she couldn't have heirs with him and divorce hasn't been invented in westeros yet so what was she supposed to do? Because she tried ,she and laenor trued but he couldn't get it up to conceive, she is also driven by a certain prophecy of certain white individuals gusting out of the distant north to destroy mankind unless she "produces" the prince that was promised so rheanyra was back into a corner here....why are people mad at rheanyra but they are willing to forgive alicent for not punishing larys for killing his family or criston for breaking hus vows and killing a man at a wedding or the many bullshit she's been letting her own father get away with
@lauramuller6112
@lauramuller6112 2 жыл бұрын
@@aimanmarzuqi4804 exactly! And the fact that the most important parties involved (Viserys, Laenor and Corlys) are all claiming and sustaining that these children are Velaryons makes this way more complex than what a lot of people are thinking.
@anhkriva5274
@anhkriva5274 2 жыл бұрын
If she wanted to have a bastards she should pick someone who looks like her husband to be their father.
@SaintJust1214
@SaintJust1214 2 жыл бұрын
You can’t steal a dragon, once it’s rider dies it’s free game to claim
@dianedavid3052
@dianedavid3052 2 жыл бұрын
This!! Laena told her daughter before she died that she would have to claim her dragon like she did. Aemond didn’t steal anything but he didn’t need to be so arrogant and unsympathetic about it 😂
@dianedavid3052
@dianedavid3052 2 жыл бұрын
@Supriya Mukherjee We have seen him victim of a prank in the show, bullying is not what I see. Those girls have no experience of him at all , they’re not his bullies, he wasn’t standing up to anyone who could have hurt him without a weapon. He kicked all their arses! I respect him for claiming his dragon, but I do believe his attitude was unnecessarily arrogant and unsympathetic towards them. Understandably he was literally flying high and totally feeling himself. What he said could have been said in a different way. He deliberately baited them all into a fight with his words and attitude. He might have the biggest, oldest dragon, but he’s still a child and he’s only ridden the dragon once and barely stayed on. I’m happy for you to believe as you please, as long as you’re happy for me to disagree with you 😊
@YaBoyRockLee
@YaBoyRockLee 2 жыл бұрын
we don't mean Steal in the literal, sense the word is used because he snuck out in the middle of the night and bonded with it at the mothers funeral...it was Shady. Thats all
@jimjimcherie
@jimjimcherie 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Team Black, never sided with the Greens. This episode has been my favorite so far, finally with Rhaenyra and Daemon getting their head in the game. Also, Rhaenyra didn't accept Ser Criston's offer bcs she didn't love him, she's only ever loved one man and that's Daemon, she also wanted to prove herself as queen. She granted Laenor what he wanted: freedom. Her and Daemon helped Laenor be free.
@arunabhsrivastava7841
@arunabhsrivastava7841 2 жыл бұрын
That's all speculation though☝️
@psycho9815
@psycho9815 2 жыл бұрын
She also didn't accept criston because of the prophecy of them white niggas gustin out of the distant north its her duty to at least pass that knowledge to her descendents
@oberon9015
@oberon9015 2 жыл бұрын
Team Rhaenyra is the only correct choice.
@daquaviousbingleton9763
@daquaviousbingleton9763 2 жыл бұрын
@@oberon9015 wait till she kills children and becomes a drunk mess lol Alicent is the only character to survive the dance except corlys rhaynera gets eaten by vhagar
@defaultuser000001
@defaultuser000001 2 жыл бұрын
@@oberon9015 cringe
@MemeRanks
@MemeRanks 2 жыл бұрын
How is Rhaenyra at fault? She was FORCED to marry Laenor by her father. Laenor turned out to be gay. Rhaenyra had to make heirs and tried but Laenor didn't perform. She swung the dice with Harwin and lost... having black haired kids instead of silver haired. Her father understood because HE WAS THE ONE WHO MADE HER MARRY LAENOR. I actually like Alicent but she was wrong for wooing Viserys behind Rhaenyra's back. That is morally wrong, but she acts so righteous. I do agree that she is doing her best.
@likhitashakya
@likhitashakya 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra initially had the choice to marry any guy of her choice. Viserys gave her all the freedom. But when she didn't his hands were tied and be married her to Leanor. If she had been smart she would have married Harwin and none of these problems would exist.
@MemeRanks
@MemeRanks 2 жыл бұрын
@@likhitashakya lol what are you saying? She was still looking for a suitor. It had just been a couple of weeks since Viserys gave her free reign. And by then, she barely knew Harwin. What are you even saying lol? Why would she just go and marry a guy she never or barely any interaction with? Viserys was the one who REFUSED Daemon's request to marry Rhaenyra, then FORCED her to marry Laenor. To be fair, he didn't know Laenor was gay, but he still made her do it rather than accepting Daemon's proposal. Look where we are now? Things re worse and Rhaenyra and Daemon sill married. I love Viserys btw, he's a top 3 character for me. But his choices while understandable, are what caused all this to happen. He chose to strip Daemon of the title. He chose to make Rhaenyra queen and hand her Aegon's prophecy. He chose to marry Alicent without telling Rhaenyra WHILE KNOWING what it would do to her. He chose to refuse Daemon's proposal for marriage. He chose to make Rhaenyra marry Laenor. Why do you think he ignores how messy things have gotten now? Because he knows he's the one that put his own daughter down this unfortunate path. Still a great dad, though. Just not a great king.
@likhitashakya
@likhitashakya 2 жыл бұрын
@@MemeRanks Yes Viserys was the incompetent king and basically set the stage for war. Him marrying Alicent after naming Rhaenyra heir was the biggest mistake. Why marry and have son's if you've already named an heir. Everything else was a domino effect after that. Regarding Rhaenyra, she wanted to be queen and to secure her line she HAD to marry. Yes she didn't know Harwin at that time but she knew she wouldn't be marrying for love. She could have picked someone she deemed worthy to be king consort amongst the many suitors and have legitimate children. But then she didn't. Viserys was forced to marry her to someone. Bad luck he turned out to be gay. So she should have picked someone to marry initially and not have all the problems. Also she continued to have bastard children when she knew their legitimacy was being questioned behind her back. She is weakening her own claim to the throne by continuing her rash decisions. Does that make her worthy to be queen? Hmm
@MemeRanks
@MemeRanks 2 жыл бұрын
@@likhitashakya Dude. It hadn't been a month or so since Viserys allowed her to choose a husband before the Daemon debacle. You are blaming a kid who has lived in a castle all her life (her only friend is Alicent. Literally) for not being able to find a suitor. You are REEEAALLY trying to blame her if this is the argument you are making cos it is a weak one. Viserys LITERALLY could have secured everything if he allowed her and Daemon to marry. This was obviously the best option. About having many kids. The whole reason she kept trying was so that at least one could have white hair. Having more kids wasn't going to change the whispers because the black hair and white skin is just WAAY to obvious. The moment Jaecerys was born, Rhaenyra was in trouble. She hoped to get the next one with white hair. Again, the gods didn't smile on her... same why the gods didn't smile on her when she tried to have kids with Laenor. You seem to not like Rhaenyra which is fine. Or you don't like her rabid fanbase which I admit is annoying. But the fact that you are willing to blame her MORE than you wanna blame Viserys shows an incredible reach. Everybody has parts to blame. The difference is Rhaenyra doesn't act righteous or like she has done nothing wrong. She's trying her best with the cards she was dealt. Viserys also doesn't act all righteous, which is why he does not question the legitimacy of her kids. He knows he is mostly to blame for that. Daemon has a part to be blamed too for leading a kid to a brothel. Rhaenyra has her own part for lying to Alicent (I would lie my ass out too ngl.) Daemon also doesn't act like he is perfect. The only one acting righteous is Alicent. This is my issue with her... and what makes her a fascinating character from a writing perspective (I'm a professional writer, which is why even hateable characters intrigue me when they are written well.) She claims Rhaenyra gets away with whatever but Rhaenyra and Laenor swallowed it when she pardoned Cole for beating Laenor's paramore to death. Rhaenyra and Viserys again swallowed her directly attacking the heir to the throne, Rhaenyra with a knife, slicing her wrist (this could be easily seen as an act of treason.) C'mon..you gotta admit that you're being too harsh in Rhaenyra. Whether you agree or not tho', I'm sure we can find common ground in the fact that all this makes for fascinating TV entertainment.
@Tormund_Giantsbrain
@Tormund_Giantsbrain 2 жыл бұрын
That “where is duty, where is sacrifice” scene…Olivia Cooke doing some Dinklage level lifting there. The agony, the passion! That’s a Emmy nomination scene. “We Know Father. Everyone Knows”. That’s Aegon’s “the Prince will remember that little Lord” moment. Aemond taming Vhagar & holding his own in a 1v4 makes him the real chad in my eyes. Only wholesome moment, our Prince resting his head on his mom’s shoulder to let her know she can depend on him. Last but not least, GOATTO Hightower with the coldest win or you die reference, “we play an ugly game”...and I’m the meme of Homer Simpson decked out in green onsies, sitting on green cushions, wearing a Hightower snapback, holding a Go Greens flag with a Alicent poster on the wall😂. Meanwhile checking in on Blacks: “What is honor compared to a woman’s uncle”-Maester Aemon 😳
@daroe2340
@daroe2340 2 жыл бұрын
Daemon and Rhaenyra were part of the plan to get Laenor to Essos, It was Daemon who murdered the poor slob that they threw into the fire.
@ethelann
@ethelann 2 жыл бұрын
alicent is such a hypocrite, she criticized rhaenyra and daemon's issue with targaryen incest (queer custom) but wants to marry aegon and halaena. she's literally harboring a criminal (criston) and lary's who killed the hand of the king not to mention his own father and brother. it was rhaenyra and daemon's plan to fake laenor's death, daemon even provided the corpse when he snapped the servant's neck
@thaispereira7311
@thaispereira7311 2 жыл бұрын
Them saying Alicent does not do dirty and Otto wants the best for the realm made laugh. Rhaenyra is not a saint either but Alicent is so hypocrite. I dont understand how can someone be on her side realy.
@ValidescopeWest
@ValidescopeWest 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you finally some said it too. Alicent was so upset when she thought Rhaenyra had sex with her uncle Daemon. But she’s betrothing her kids who are brother and sister??? Yeah that just lets you know it was all because she was upset Rhaenyra might have had sex happily of her own free will.
@jalertunggal7950
@jalertunggal7950 2 жыл бұрын
Is it confimed tho that alicent is the one who want to marrying Aegon to helaena,it could be viserys's decision
@iconoclast6555
@iconoclast6555 2 жыл бұрын
Alicent didn't criticize Rhaenyra and Daemon for incest. What she was criticizing was Rhaenrya being a thot and mothering bastards. If you're talking about episode 5 then that's different because Rhaenyra was entertaining suitors and no high lord would have taken her if they knew that she smashed Daemon.
@ethelann
@ethelann 2 жыл бұрын
@@jalertunggal7950 viserys agreed to rhaenyra's offer to marry jace and halaena, alicent didn't want to because she had other plans, they just established in this episode that aegon and halaena are to be married
@shaquan749
@shaquan749 2 жыл бұрын
I don't care who the father of Princess Rhaenyra's children are She is still the mother of the children and the kids have Dragon so they are Targaryen and the king is their grandfather
@OcGurl81
@OcGurl81 2 жыл бұрын
This!!!!!!
@ulquiorracifer5493
@ulquiorracifer5493 2 жыл бұрын
That not how it works, but okay.
@macheadg5er
@macheadg5er 2 жыл бұрын
Aemon's sister said in the last episode he was going to lose and eye to get what his heart desires. I guess you missed it lol She is like bran she see things.
@igoonx15
@igoonx15 2 жыл бұрын
I might be biased but tbh my problem with Alicent is that she’s blinded by hatred and jealousy, it’s not about her it’s just i'm not into characters like this who are blinded by their hatred, but it’s also her father's fault for being a snake and planting seeds in her head and how he painted Rhaenyra as a mad woman who would kill everyone, it’s a messy situation and I understand both sides and no one is good in this story but i'm more on Rhaenyra’s side because i just like her character and i know what will happen to her so i'm kinda sympathetic towards her. Also imo The Greens are just in the wrong no matter who sides i'm on because Rhaenyra is the heir despite her gender and they’re basically taking her right from the beginning when Alicent got into the king's room and if she ended up killing them it’s because they forced her to do so... i just don’t like how people acting as if Rhaenyra is pure evil when all of this started because Alicent married the king, yes she was forced but she could’ve at least told Rhaenyra about her father's plan before breaking her heart. It’s just a messy situation and i feel bad for both sides but like i said i'm more sympathetic towards Rhaenyra but i know she did mistakes...
@kingad8869
@kingad8869 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra knows the secret passages inside the red keep. If she wanted Alicent or any of her children dead, they'd be dead by now. Though Alicent obviously doesn't know this.
@igoonx15
@igoonx15 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingad8869 yeah that’s what i mean, Rhaenyra can kill them and she has the power to kill them if she wanted but she tried to make peace last episode, imo Alicent i just blinded by hatred, jealousy and fear that she is slowly forcing Rhaenyra to kill them. Like i know Rhaenyra is not fully right and she is spoiled but Alicent is doing what her father did to her which forcing her children and planting seeds in their heads and this episode showed that, like i said it’s a messy situation and i feel for both sides but i just can’t side with the greens because they’re wrong and doing stuff on things might not happen “which is Rhaenyra killing them” if they didn’t force her to.
@iconoclast6555
@iconoclast6555 2 жыл бұрын
It's not all about hatred and jealousy for Rhaenyra. If you look at things very carefully, the turning point for Alicent was learning that the King gave Rhaenyra a Plan B Tea. That means Alicent knew that the King totally knew that Otto was not wrong, but he still fired him. Alicent all the while also vouched for Rhaenyra but she and her father got burnt. From that moment, she learned that Otto has been right all along. For the King and Rhaenyra, Alicent's side of the family are only seconds, and that was even more proven this episode when the King sided with Rhaenyra and her children. She really believes now what Otto said that her children could be put to the sword if Rhaenyra pushes for her ascension to the Iron Throne, especially since Rhaenyra's claim now is a lot more rough since she has mothered bastards and the realm know it.
@lightvale
@lightvale 2 жыл бұрын
how can you say it's not hate and jealousy when even olivia cooke the actress who plays alicent literally says she's jealous that rhaenyra is a better mother💀 at this point this is all because she's mad that rhaenyra's life wasn't miserable like hers
@iconoclast6555
@iconoclast6555 2 жыл бұрын
@@lightvale I didn't say it's not hate and jealousy, I said it's not all about hate and jealousy. Don't twist my words. And actors don't always say everything in interviews. If we're supposed to just go with what actors say in interviews, then there's no point in discussions and analyzing characters' motivations. Even the showrunnes in an interview said that Daemon has impotency, but clearly that's not the whole truth. Besides, Olivia Cook herself in one of her interviews said that Alicent really loves her children and wants to protect them. So how is that all jealousy and hatred?
@LuliD2
@LuliD2 2 жыл бұрын
I always have so much fun with you all 🤣 What I see is that Allicent is the start of this beef. Her entire behavior is based on Otto's manipulative words about Rhaenyra's killing her kids for the throne. If she hadn't listened to him, they'd have had a close family even if she didn't like Rhaenyra's actions. Or at least it wouldn't get to this level of animosity between the kids and the houses picking sides. Bc that was her only reason, the fear towards Rhaenyra. An united front would have shut down every mouth and the internal conflict would have been more easily resolved
@hackt3d
@hackt3d 2 жыл бұрын
It started when daemon polluted the princess and rhaenyra created that scandal. If rhaenyra just performed her duty like alicent then no dirt will be placed on the heir and their trust will be on her. If episode 4 didn't happen. Daemon will have kids with lady rhea, Queen rhaenyra will still be alicent's bestfriend with virgin cole as her loyal knightsguard. While harwin becomes the lord of harrenhall. Laena flying freely with vhaegar. Laenor enjoying joffrey. Larys remains a limp.
@LuliD2
@LuliD2 2 жыл бұрын
@@hackt3d I don't think so, Allicent would still be hurt bc of Rhaenyra's lies about her purity but it was Otto's words about the killing of her children what drives her crazy every day. Daemon would never have slept with his wife. And it would have been much worse if Otto had remained as the Hand, the scheming would been worse. I mean, all that refusal of the citizens for a woman heir was much bc of Otto contaminating their minds
@johnwalkeristhatdude3018
@johnwalkeristhatdude3018 2 жыл бұрын
@@LuliD2 why can’t Rhae be hurt over her best friend disrespecting her dead mother and brother but for some reason u team green people want to be mad so mad that y’all force y’all selves to believe that Alicent wasn’t being a gold digger to become queen. Why does Alicent get to be mad but Rhae is supposed accept being lied to by someone who helped her grieve her mother.
@jodiedehart3314
@jodiedehart3314 2 жыл бұрын
Alicent's daughter is a Dragon Dreamer..remember in ep. 3, when Viscerys said he wished he was one ? ( they predict prophecies, and some can do magic). In episode 6, Aemond was crying about the pig prank and him not having a dragon..Helaeyna says" he'll have to close an eye...". Now she's playing with those spiders, but she's talking about " spiders spinning webs of green and black.."... for real, she's spittin' prophecies! But her brothers just call her crazy..lol.. but she is really telling future events. Really interesting! 💯💯😊😊 ( I do not know the prophesies, I only know that she speaks in riddles, but they are fun to listen to and try to figure out! I read about her character, but only in a " History and Lore" type of manner, no spoilers! I'm just having fun listening to what she says every time she gets screen time!😊😊
@randomdudeinyt23
@randomdudeinyt23 2 жыл бұрын
Oh shit! I will have to pay more attention to what she says. Thanks for the highlight!
@ValidescopeWest
@ValidescopeWest 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. I’m like why is no one paying attention to Helaena!!
@oberon9015
@oberon9015 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a coincidence
@jodiedehart3314
@jodiedehart3314 2 жыл бұрын
@@oberon9015 it's not a coincidence. I looked her up, ( Just like I looked Laena up)because Laena died too young, and I wanted to know more about both of them. She gets hardly any screen time. I actually learned a lot about her, and I thought her to be very interesting.
@jodiedehart3314
@jodiedehart3314 2 жыл бұрын
@@ValidescopeWest 💕💕
@iconoclast6555
@iconoclast6555 2 жыл бұрын
Before it became Laena's dragon, it was Aemond's grandpa's dragon. It's okay that you didn't know this, but yeah dragons are free to be claimed when their rider dies. It's not anyone's property to be passed as inheritance. Dragons choose their riders too and it deemed Aemond worthy of her. They don't choose just any Targaryens, they choose special ones for them. That's why Corlys and Daemon or anyone of the adults in their side wasn't even mad that Vhagar was claimed by Aemond, they know it's just the way of things. I'm sure they know they lost something very valuable to their side and they're like "fuck.." but they know they can't complain about it. Aemond claimed that dragon fair and square.
@joeycognition8824
@joeycognition8824 2 жыл бұрын
That’s not correct Vhaegar was originally Queen Visenya’s dragon (Aegon the conqueror’s sister wife). The next rider was king Jahaery’s son Baelon the Brave who is the current king Viscery’s father. After that it was Laena. Viscerys only ride Balerion the black dread until it’s death….
@rushibrahim716
@rushibrahim716 2 жыл бұрын
@@joeycognition8824 That doesn't contradict what Iconoclast said. Baelon the Brave was Aemond's grandfather.
@iconoclast6555
@iconoclast6555 2 жыл бұрын
@@joeycognition8824 Baelon was Aemond's grandfather so what I said was factual. Before Laena, Baelon had Vhagar. You just repeated what I said lol
@joeycognition8824
@joeycognition8824 2 жыл бұрын
@@rushibrahim716 oooh you are right! I confused myself lol
@joeycognition8824
@joeycognition8824 2 жыл бұрын
@@iconoclast6555 True true 😂
@Dec4AllTimeAlways
@Dec4AllTimeAlways 2 жыл бұрын
I already knew before it happened that Aemond was going to lose an eye. They call him Aemond One-Eye. I even caught when Helaena said you need to close an eye in the previous episode. But when it happened, I still went OMG 😱.
@mori1bund
@mori1bund 2 жыл бұрын
Great reaction 😃😀 but are we watching the same show? Ever since the time jump Laenor is complaining that he wants out, fight in the Stepstones, see the world, etc -> remember "a smart sailor flees the storm"? And now that Rhaenyra gives him what he always wanted, you're angry about her? 😲 Oh, and if you expect from every person who sleeps with you once to run off with you and start a new life at the other side of the world, I have bad news for you... 😂😂🤣🤣
@YaBoyRockLee
@YaBoyRockLee 2 жыл бұрын
Before responding. Do you watch full video or only the parts you like?
@mori1bund
@mori1bund 2 жыл бұрын
@@YaBoyRockLee The whole video, but I commented while watching it, so before I saw the last 12 minutes 😅😅 No need to respond, I got it. 😅
@YaBoyRockLee
@YaBoyRockLee 2 жыл бұрын
@@mori1bund lol. All good. Most comments don’t watch full video lol
@Gabi-kb2rr
@Gabi-kb2rr 2 жыл бұрын
Just saying, Alicent was the one who started lying, when she hides from Rhaenyra about her flirt with Rhaenyra's dad. But now she wants Rhaenyra to be loyal and tell her everything, when was her time, she didn't said anything. Rhaenyra just don't trust Alicent and she's right to.
@MayumiSaegusaShiba
@MayumiSaegusaShiba 2 жыл бұрын
she was 15 and pimped out and viserys himself said not to tell...not yall victim blaming
@atypical1242
@atypical1242 2 жыл бұрын
@@MayumiSaegusaShiba constantly
@LS13.
@LS13. Жыл бұрын
There’s a difference between not saying something and straight up saying the opposite of the truth. Only one is called lying. Alicent was like 14 in the beginning parts who would blame a kid being manipulated
@roronoa747
@roronoa747 2 жыл бұрын
Aemond had every right to try and claim the dragon (Vhagar) at that point, dragons only bond with one rider at a time so Vhagar was free after Laena died. Dragons aren't passed down through inheritance, anyone can try and claim a free dragon and it will then decide if it wants the rider or not. If she didn't like Aemond he would have died there and then or Laenas daughter could have died doing the same so he didn't really steal anything.
@teekay2127
@teekay2127 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra is very aware that her claim to the throne is fragile & even more since the birth of Aegon and the only way to strengthen her claim is to have heirs that's why she took the gamble with ser Harwin when things failed with Laenor, it's dangerous but she knew she had to. Queen Aemma died trying to give the king an heir, we heard her speak about the importance of heirs, she literally had 5 unsucessful pregnancies, so there's serious pressure & Rhaenyra is expected to do the same. Also, she gave Laenor what he wanted. He has hardly been present ( I mean her kids seemed to have a stronger bond with Harwin Strong than Laenor😂) and Rhaenyra knows it's because he does not want this life, she even says he belongs on the Sea. He might have pledged to be present but you can tell they've had this conversation before and he hasn't followed through and she knows he won't support her the way she needs, the way Daemon will.
@colleenabood8775
@colleenabood8775 2 жыл бұрын
Laenor will now be able to live a happy life with Quarl. The only bad thing is that Corlys and Rhaneys think he's dead
@bastianghartey5132
@bastianghartey5132 2 жыл бұрын
you the first people trying to justify alicents actions all in the name of stanship ....shorty literaly wanted to take a childs eye but no Rhaenyra is the bad one for marrying someone that cannot have kids 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@808dazzlegal
@808dazzlegal 2 жыл бұрын
Team Black
@jadwisiastrickland3781
@jadwisiastrickland3781 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are tripping 😂😂😂😂 Team Black all day
@Kidapollo92
@Kidapollo92 2 жыл бұрын
Daemon did t laugh because to be disrespectful to his late wife. He laughed because Vaemond passive aggressively pointed out that rhaenyras children were illegitimate. Otto is now the hand again I almost missed it but it would make sense that allicent would bring her father back into the fold. Daemon is pissed and I don’t blame him. Lost his wife and after all these years after war and this stuff now you want me to come home? After the death of my wife only now you want me back. We see that everyone isn’t blind that those are not laenors children. Allicent in a way is somewhat guilty for strings death. Rhaenyra bout to give in to daemon again. Aegon got fucked up and it’s his own fault should have watched his mouth. Otto is proud bringing out that side of his daughter. Aemond is such a bitch bro he stole his cousins dragon. The day of the funeral too the body not even cold yet. He got some nerve. I don’t like that the king didn’t ask the girls what happened either. The only good person left is Laenor honestly. He is atleast trying after losing his sister he reDedicating hisself to his wife. And just then right after his sister dies so does he. But amazingly it’s a switch shaves his head and leaves to live a free life.
@BLACKlVlAMB4
@BLACKlVlAMB4 2 жыл бұрын
Idk why people don’t see alicent doing dirt too 1.she slept with the king before getting married (we didn’t see it but it’s basically implied by her father telling her to wear her mother’s favorite dress ) 2 she knew about Rhaenyra and Cole but didn’t tell the king or anyone kept it to herself to benefit her 3 you can say she didn’t kill the the pervious hand and his son but she was saying she misses her father and wishes he was there cause he would be impartial to her 4 told the guy at the end I might need a friend on the low to do dirty so y’all tripping she wack just mad she gotta marry and old guy and her friend got to do what she wanted like yea bro she’s the heir and also the princess her rules don’t apply to you
@adedayooyegunju828
@adedayooyegunju828 2 жыл бұрын
remember she didn't sleep with the king. watch the show again just because she was his companion does not mean he slept with her.
@adedayooyegunju828
@adedayooyegunju828 2 жыл бұрын
so you agree both of rhynaera and alicent are wack it depends on the one you pick. Remember the random dude rhynaera and daemon killed and burned to replace laenor and
@Dec4AllTimeAlways
@Dec4AllTimeAlways 2 жыл бұрын
Aegon is only 13 in this episode and looks like an alcoholic already. It's coming from Alicent's bad parenting. Her trying to micro-manage her kids isn't working. She doesn't seem close with any of them while Rhaenyra doesn't abuse her sons.
@amirahmadi3963
@amirahmadi3963 2 жыл бұрын
woaw we got an expert daddy here, do you speak from experience? Did your dad go out to get some milk?
@slayerr3086
@slayerr3086 2 жыл бұрын
Well Rhaenyra also had like 2 (now 3) men in her life helping her raise them while all Alicent had is deadbeat Viserys who propably can’t even tell the difference between Aemond and Haelena
@jakobitheprophet418
@jakobitheprophet418 2 жыл бұрын
Otto Hightower does not have the realm interests at heart, like everybody else he wanted more power for his house and his blood. Otto and house Hightower caused the dance of dragons to happen
@Gabi-kc5nb
@Gabi-kc5nb 2 жыл бұрын
yes!!!
@subhashismandal9871
@subhashismandal9871 2 жыл бұрын
Otto Hightower is more level headed Tywin Lannister just like Alicent is a more lever headed Cercei.
@jakobitheprophet418
@jakobitheprophet418 2 жыл бұрын
@@subhashismandal9871 is Alicent more level headed, to me it’s like a Laenor situation both individual felt trap in their respective houses. Alicent comes from a traditional noble house, she had follows the rules, done everything her father told her to do, she has resentment towards Rhaenyra because in reality she wants what Rhaenyra has, freedom to make her own choices.
@subhashismandal9871
@subhashismandal9871 2 жыл бұрын
@@jakobitheprophet418 She blames everyone but her father. Just like Cercei.
@jakobitheprophet418
@jakobitheprophet418 2 жыл бұрын
@@subhashismandal9871 true
@shaquan749
@shaquan749 2 жыл бұрын
In episode 6 Rhaenyra wanted to join the family together when she offer her son to marry Alicent's daughter but she refuses the offer and you are saying she is playing by the rules, are we watching the same show here? After ten years you are still angry about something that happen between you two and Alicent is the one that started it by lying to her friend to marry her father and you want Rhaenyra to be honest with you when you ask her if she slept with his uncle
@TheImaginationRealm
@TheImaginationRealm 2 жыл бұрын
Alicent was all like you Targaryens have weird customs to Rhaenyra when she thought she was sleeping with daemon but then betroths her kids to each other... full of it
@daquaviousbingleton9763
@daquaviousbingleton9763 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheImaginationRealm it was probably their dads choice ever thought of that since they are his kids and he’s a targeryon who believes in that custom
@daquaviousbingleton9763
@daquaviousbingleton9763 2 жыл бұрын
If anything they are the least biased reactions to this show ngl
@tsheporabekane4172
@tsheporabekane4172 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, Rhaenyra was given the opportunity to choose whomever she wanted to marry remember. She could have chosen Harwin or Lannister, or anybody of her liking, Viserys didn't care. But what did Rhaenyra do, she cancelled her search just because and wanted to sleep with Daemon and Cristen Cole. Rhaenyra had the chance to choose anyone and have kids the right way. She was spoiled and decided to birth bastards.
@anhkriva5274
@anhkriva5274 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra wanted to legitimize her bastards son by marrying her off to a real princess, nothing more. Alicent obeyed her father as good daughter should and obeyed her king as good subject should, both of them didnt want her speak of it.
@nickya9257
@nickya9257 2 жыл бұрын
Y’all are tripping. Alicent needs to be mad at her daddy and stop hating on Rhaenyra because she’s loving her life.
@shaquan749
@shaquan749 2 жыл бұрын
Bro Alicent betray her friend to marry her father
@Gabi-kc5nb
@Gabi-kc5nb 2 жыл бұрын
Exatamente!!!! Mas as pessoas esquecem isso.
@shaquan749
@shaquan749 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gabi-kc5nb I don't know what they are watching
@Gabi-kc5nb
@Gabi-kc5nb 2 жыл бұрын
@@shaquan749 me neiither. I’m sorry my english so bad but, wtf? As pessoas esquecem as coisas cedo.
@taliciabarbosa4910
@taliciabarbosa4910 2 жыл бұрын
Gente, e daí? A menina foi lá e fez sim mas até aí, isso é um problema entre ela e a Rhaenyra, o problema do que a Rhaenyra faz é que afeta praticamente toda a sociedade de westeros
@Gabi-kc5nb
@Gabi-kc5nb 2 жыл бұрын
@@taliciabarbosa4910 não. isso é um problema que a Alicent cria com o discurso hipocrita dela e ela alimenta isso em toda Westeros. Tanto que ela morre arrependida e não quer ver mais a cor verde na frente dela. Repito as palavras da Olivia Cooke sobre a Alicent, ela é uma “mulheres com trump”. E se vc apoia isso, diz muito.
@sharaquitorio6950
@sharaquitorio6950 2 жыл бұрын
love the girl in the middle how she noticed how much the king loves rhaenyra more than alicent and their sons. rhaenyra was his daughter with his one true love late queen aemma. he protect her at all cost to an extent he blindly sees the truth. he knows it but he pretends to be oblivious with it.
@StepnieW
@StepnieW 2 жыл бұрын
"Alicent did nothing wrong"? Alicent went behind her best friend's back to "comfort" the King, and she poisoned her children's minds to hate Rhaenyra just like Otto did to her.
@mermaidonwheels
@mermaidonwheels 2 жыл бұрын
she was a victim who was groomed as a child to marry a dying king, criticize her for her paranoia and self righteousness but don’t blame the victims of child marriage.
@robertwalker1001
@robertwalker1001 2 жыл бұрын
@@mermaidonwheels As soon as Otto made it clear he wanted her to marry Visarys she took it as her duty to do so. Even hiding it from her best friend. If she didn't want to marry the king she could have torpedoed the effort. It would be different if this was Visarys and Otto agreeing to marry their children but it wasn't an arranged marriage. This was a courtship and she was an active participant.
@StepnieW
@StepnieW 2 жыл бұрын
@@mermaidonwheels Alicent is an adult who poisoned her children's innocent minds. Now make an excuse for her.
@StepnieW
@StepnieW 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertwalker1001 Yup. All Alicent needs to do IF she does not want to marry the king is to tell Rhaenyra what her father, Otto wants her to do.
@mermaidonwheels
@mermaidonwheels 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertwalker1001 she was a child who was groomed by her father to severe his ambition. how can you ask a teenage girl (who isn’t of royal blood) to fight against the whole patriarchal system that was reinforced by men in power for hundreds of years.
@cristiansturino3693
@cristiansturino3693 2 жыл бұрын
I like that you guys are team Green, I"m not picking sides but its good to see a difference in opinion cause most reactors have been on rhaeneyra's side.
@YaBoyRockLee
@YaBoyRockLee 2 жыл бұрын
Funny. If you listen to the full thing. We like both girls. We are just re balancing because Rhanerya had like 100% support from us when she was younger now it’s being distributed 50/50. Alicent gets more praise Because we aren’t gonna repeat the same talking points from 6 episodes ago lol
@johnwalkeristhatdude3018
@johnwalkeristhatdude3018 2 жыл бұрын
@@YaBoyRockLee WHAT?
@nervachadikus
@nervachadikus 2 жыл бұрын
Well a dragon can't really be stolen. They're very intelligent beings and can choose who they let ride them. If anything it's Laena that stole Vhagar because Vhagar's previous rider was Aemond's grandfather Baelon.
@rightmunted7538
@rightmunted7538 2 жыл бұрын
Ima be real Aemond didn't do anything to deserve hate. He bonded with Vhagar, spoke back to those two girls when they treated Vhagar like nothing more than property, then fought back when he got jumped and lost an eye for it. He was a bit harsh sometimes but remember those boys straight up bullied Aemond and he was still sympathetic towards them loosing their father at the start of the episode. I honestly can't wrap my head around how so many people think this kid deserved to have his eye cut out just for standing up for himself for once it's kinda fucking crazy
@ophelieguay6960
@ophelieguay6960 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 100% team Rhaenera & Daemon! They are the best! 🔥🔥🔥 And I love their children! ❤️🔥🙌🏻
@MrFredstt
@MrFredstt 2 жыл бұрын
Their children got bodied by Aemond after ganging up on him 4v1 just saying
@oberon9015
@oberon9015 2 жыл бұрын
​@@MrFredstt To be fair, their kids were also born during the 10 year timeskip which means the oldest boy is only 9 at most assuming Harwin got Rhaenyra pregnant immediately after the wedding. They only get younger from there so its fair they cannot really fight.
@MrFredstt
@MrFredstt 2 жыл бұрын
@@oberon9015 Aegon is only 12 or 13 so that puts Aemond at around 10-11. Not much older. And regardless 4v1 is always going to be an unfair fight, even more so when they're all ganging up on you at the same time and one draws a knife. All Aemond did was defend himself.
@daroe2340
@daroe2340 2 жыл бұрын
@@oberon9015 to be truly fair Daemon and Rhenyra’s kids have not yet been born.
@ophelieguay6960
@ophelieguay6960 2 жыл бұрын
@@daroe2340 I was talking about the children they have now but ya they are not! 😂😂😂🙌🏻
@thatguy779
@thatguy779 2 жыл бұрын
I'm team Viscerys more and more every episode. Mans going "why y'all fighting?? We already a family made entirely of the the top 1% AND we got dragons", and they all scheming and drawing lines around him lmao
@thatguy779
@thatguy779 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aemond2024 nah bruh, homie put his foot down ‘n said “fuck y’all I’m the king”
@thatguy779
@thatguy779 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aemond2024 not really, but nobody really commands respect either. You either playing nice until you can maneuver above someone or you’re scared of them
@Charr277
@Charr277 2 жыл бұрын
@@thatguy779 Viserys is the cause of all this fighting, if he really wanted Rhaenyra to succeed he wouldn’t have married Alicent and Aegon wouldn’t have existed. Just one heir and the kingdom would’ve had no choice other than to accept Rhaenyra
@robertwalker1001
@robertwalker1001 2 жыл бұрын
Visarys fired Otto because he couldn't trust his judgement anymore but re-hires him again for his judgement. You're on that guy's side?
@thatguy779
@thatguy779 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertwalker1001 as opposed to the guy who married off a teen to get her to to try and fuck over her best friend politically, or the dude who grooms his niece also for political gain and slaughtered his wife?? Yeah, and it’s not close at all
@zo_leo8401
@zo_leo8401 2 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised so many people think Alicent is innocent and she didn’t do anything wrong. If Alicent really had honor and morales she wouldn’t have agreed to take advantage of the King the night his wife died. You can say her father told her to do it, but in the end she chose her own family over her so called morales. She was manipulating the king for 6 months and broke the trust of her best friend by messing with him behind her back, and then getting married to him. Alicent knew Ser Criston broke his oath and her duty was to report it to the king and Ser Criston should have been executed. But Alicent decided to keep it a secret for HER OWN GAIN. Where is the honor and duty in that? She talks about being honest, having honor , morales, and doing what’s right. Yet she catches Aegon beating his meat naked out the window for the whole city to see and she doesn’t even act surprised. She didn’t scold him about it, she was only focused on a joke the kids played on aemond. She has been having secret meetings with Lord Larys and indirectly got the hand of the king and his son killed. If she had honor and duty she would have reported him to the king, but the second she decided to keep it a secret and use it to get her father back to kings landing she became a accessory to those crimes. Where is the honor and duty in that? Then demanding to cut out the eye of prince who is in line for the throne, where is the honor in that? She is the only who seems to be ok with purposely hurting family members. She STILL disobeyed the King and tried to attack them. Rheynerah said it best. Alicent always hid behind being about laws, morals, duty, and doing what’s right. Yet now everyone see’s her for who she really is. Just another person who has dirt on them, and is no better than anyone else. So yea Alicent definitely has done a lot of wrong.
@miaborges3674
@miaborges3674 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!! Like we all know Rhaenyra isn't a perfect or great person, she's done some shit, things that she knows benefits her. But I'm so tired of the pedestal some people seem to have Alicent on. It's not that we can't understand why she's doing the things she's doing, or how she's ended up in the position she's in, but they're not the good clean honorable moral actions she is passing them off as. She's just as fucked as the rest of them, she's not a good person either 😂 they need to be held to the same accountability ✨
@johnwalkeristhatdude3018
@johnwalkeristhatdude3018 2 жыл бұрын
FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCTTTS!
@blackpanther6885
@blackpanther6885 2 жыл бұрын
i want you guys to watch the commentary did by the actors and actress for each episode in which olivia cook the actress who play alicent she herself say alicent is jealous of rhaenyra in every way and she herself didn't like the way alicent acts towards rhaenyra.
@atypical1242
@atypical1242 2 жыл бұрын
Jealous because she’s resentful that Rhaenyra seemingly can do whatever she wants without consequences while her life she’s been made/taught to put duty before all and men > women.
@blackpanther6885
@blackpanther6885 2 жыл бұрын
@@atypical1242 well it's not Rhaenyra's fault that her life is Miserable it's her father's ambition.
@leonardohenrique5172
@leonardohenrique5172 Жыл бұрын
they also did an interview in which emma darcy who plays rhaenyra said that alicent was right in this episode, and that rhaenyra was gaslighting everyone
@itsthatgirl98_
@itsthatgirl98_ 2 жыл бұрын
12:27 Daemon laughed at Laena's funeral because Vaemond was attacking Rhaenyra's children for not being Velaryons and you could see how uncomfortable she was with what Vaemond was saying, even Viserys noticed and so did Daemon and he laughed to divert attention and Rhaenyra's eldest son Jace noticed that.
@hackt3d
@hackt3d 2 жыл бұрын
Straight disrespectful to his wife's funeral. Don't twist his disgustinh behavior with theories and sugar coated assumptions. He just laughed at what vaemond is saying. If you remember how he beats the innocent messenger, or getting back at cole after he was knocked off his horse, then it shows he has no self control.
@michaelturner726
@michaelturner726 2 жыл бұрын
If Alicient is so innocent why didn't she tell Rhaenyra that she was comforting her father? She didn't because she knew exactly what her father asked her to do and that was to be there to comfort and get in the heart of the king. Alicient has always know exactly what she's been doing you just hasn't done anything on her own. Harwin's brother pretty much told her he was going to do something to his Father and brother and she didn't say don't do it, she waited till it was done to act as if she didn't know what he was going to do. Also Alicient has no reason to be mad at Rhaenyra, Rhaenyra has only acted as every entitled person has in history, she's done what she's wanted to without consequences.
@robertwalker1001
@robertwalker1001 2 жыл бұрын
Because Alicent is not innocent. That's why she made sure her father returned as the hand instead of telling Viserys that Larys Strong killed the hand of the king. She hides behind a shield of righteousness, but she is anything but righteous. I guess honor and duty does not match with justice. She didn't care about justice for the Strongs.
@stoneheart8231
@stoneheart8231 2 жыл бұрын
First of all, Alicent was sold out as a child bride to Viserys. It's made very clear that she didn't want to do it, but was forced to. She couldn't tell Rhaenyra either since Viserys, the King, forbade her from doing so. To blame her in this is both childish, shortsided and victim blaming. Secondly, Larys gave ZERO indication that he would kill his own father and brother. There's no reason Alicent would even consider this a possibility, considering kinslaying is the greatest sin there is in Westeros. She also can't tell on him, because she knows he would implicate her in the murders, which could get her executed.
@michaelturner726
@michaelturner726 2 жыл бұрын
@@stoneheart8231 She wasn't 'SOLD' at all. Otto made the request to her and she knew exactly what he wanted, he even stated to her to wear one of her mother's dresses. The King forbade her well after they were already developing a relationship. Alicient had plenty of time to tell Rhaenyra if she truely thought what she was doing was innocent. Yes Larys did indicate what he would do, he told Alicient at the table that his father never showed him any attention or love because of his disability and he stated his bother was the same way with him. He told her he didn't care much for either and that he could take care of the issue. Playing dumb doesn't make you innocent.
@stoneheart8231
@stoneheart8231 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelturner726 Nah you gotta be watching a whole different show cause that literally did not happen. I won’t even bother trying to reason with your jumbled mess of media illiteracy. Have a good day!
@michaelturner726
@michaelturner726 2 жыл бұрын
@@stoneheart8231 Oh I know you won't reply because you can't!!! But you are entitled to your opinion. I didn't make it personal with you I gave my opinion and now here you are making it personal. Fool! Oh and 'Sold' implies an exchange of things, something for something. There was never anything given to Otto, the Hightowers or Alicient for her. And if you're trying to say that the thrown was what the price was you're wrong on that because it was already promised to Rhaenyra.
@Harry-fh5lh
@Harry-fh5lh 2 жыл бұрын
The arguments againt Rhaenyra are really stupid actually. Laenor always wanted to get away from all the responsibilities and live off with his lover. Rhaenyra did not want it. Two people have different wants and needs. Rhaenyra actually stayed cause of her responsibilities as she herself stated that the responsibilites are far greater than her, Criston Cole and everyone in her family. Alicent and Criston are very much alike, they both are blaming someone else for their misery. Rhaenyra was forcefully pushed into a marriage with a dude who doesn't even like women. It wasn't her fault. She even tried to have Laenor's children but Laenor couldn't get it up. What was she supposed to do?
@thaispereira7311
@thaispereira7311 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 100%
@jayh825
@jayh825 2 жыл бұрын
Is it really that simple tho? By Westeros rights and traditions her son has a better claim than Rhaneyra and her bastards. Its only the blind love of a weak king like Viserys that allows her to keep her position. And you also have to consider since Rhaneyra and her kids claim is so weak Alicent and her kids will inevitably be a target Otto may be serving his own ends but everything he says is true and makes sense.
@thaispereira7311
@thaispereira7311 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayh825 Viserys made a mess naming Rhaenyra heir but when he did it is what should be respected. Kings words is law. To go against it is treason. Especially when he didnt change his mind enven after Aegon was born.
@Harry-fh5lh
@Harry-fh5lh 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayh825 I could be wrong about what "claim" criteria is but Alicent's kids have a stronger claim than Rhaenyra's kids. Rhaenyra has a stronger claim than everyone else as she is the chosen heir by the King himself. There is absolutely nothing that backs Otto and his theories. He is suggesting that Rhaenyra would kill Alicent's kids but there is nothing that suggests she would actually do that. Not one bit of Rhaenyra's nature suggests that she would murder someone. Here too Otto and Alicent are blaming someone else for their insecurities. Putting everything aside, it's hardly about the throne for Alicent at this point as she herself clarified what she is so salty about. She is mad that Rhaenyra did not suffer the same misery as her. Alicent was forced and used as an object by her own father. She was married to someone she did not ever like. She was almost getting forced for producing heirs. Alicent is mad that Rhaenyra did not go through the same hell and lived her life without sacrificing her happiness. And if you didn't notice, Otto was suggesting all of his shit even before Rhaenyra was married. So it was never about Rhaenyra's kids being bastards. Otto just wants to see his blood on the Iron Throne as Viserys pointed.
@robertwalker1001
@robertwalker1001 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayh825 If it was tradition than the previous king wouldn't have felt the needed to call a council to name the next heir. That was only a decade before the story really begins. And Rhanerya has the strongest claim. She is the named heir, the one everyone bent a knee to and swore allegiance. No one did any such a thing with Aegon.
@drinkofthrones5239
@drinkofthrones5239 2 жыл бұрын
Such a good episode! Loved the twist with Laenor. Can’t wait for episode 8 🔥
@PedroGamuzza
@PedroGamuzza 2 жыл бұрын
It's a feminist manifesto, Alicent play by the book and sacrifice herself for her family and duty because the world is trash for woman so she expect all other woman suffers like her while Rhaenyra wants more from life.
@silversaturns
@silversaturns 2 жыл бұрын
"Mercy" and "Aemond" in the same sentence are quite interesting I must say xD
@dschebba
@dschebba 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t get all the Rhaenyra hate ^^ Team Black all the way!
@thelightwarriordiariesxsup6781
@thelightwarriordiariesxsup6781 2 жыл бұрын
Viserys and Alicent's daughter, Helena, was performing a magic spell, and no one even noticed. She's a a Dragon Dreamer and the magic that lies within their blood is strong within her.
@gustavo_ciza
@gustavo_ciza 2 жыл бұрын
The absurd i just heard, my god. Alicent hate towards Rhaenyra is all about envy, she even said it in this episode. Alicent chose to sacriface her happiness in the name of “duty”, but she saw Rhaenyra live free, and somehow she feels entitled to fuck up Rhaenyra’s life because of it, its ridiculous. Alicent poisoned her own sons into some hate towards their own family. She and her father planted the seeds of war, because of envy and greed.
@thaispereira7311
@thaispereira7311 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Even Olivia Cooke agreed with all this. She said that Alicent envy Rhaenyra.
@Sienja
@Sienja 2 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as rules for Targaryens. They are conceived as a higher beings in Westeros as they can make Dragons serve. Alicent's just envy Rhaenyra having all the free passes. lmao
@KayBaby30
@KayBaby30 2 жыл бұрын
Y’all wild for being team Alicent.
@Shigeru0508
@Shigeru0508 2 жыл бұрын
Alicent was kinda loosing it but she has some points. Rhaenyra did massivly stupid things and her children had to suffer for it. The only thing protecting her right now, are the active delusions of her father. When he dies, chaos will happen.
@bastianghartey5132
@bastianghartey5132 2 жыл бұрын
cap what stupid things ?? she was forced to marry someone she didnt like the person cannot bear children she should just live 10 years of her life without sex ???
@Shigeru0508
@Shigeru0508 2 жыл бұрын
@@bastianghartey5132 oh yeah, that poor thing. That's a good excuse to procreate 3 obvious bastard children, who have no birth claims to make in their world. Surely, her enemies won't use that against her. And it's not like there was an episode with her being able to choose from a f ton of people to marry. We only saw 2 very bad ones but she could have had every man in the kingdom but rejected them all and was only interested in her uncle and her guard. No one wanted Daemon to be her husband and kings guard knights aren't even allowed to do it. Stick your cap somewhere else, Westeros is not modern day USA and she is not handeling her situation smart at all.
@goodfella1234
@goodfella1234 2 жыл бұрын
@@Shigeru0508 If Westero was modern day USA, Rhaenyra could choose her gender at her will, and declare herself a male heir by just saying it. Imagine how fun that would be. No society has never been this evil and cursed as today's USA.
@shaquan749
@shaquan749 2 жыл бұрын
The only people following the rules are Viserys I Targaryen and his sister Princess Rhaenys Targaryen
@thatoneblackdude3333
@thatoneblackdude3333 2 жыл бұрын
The only people with some since everyone else in the family don't know how to act.
@lucasferreira7420
@lucasferreira7420 2 жыл бұрын
Aemond is a badass 💚🔥
@jefferywill8683
@jefferywill8683 2 жыл бұрын
You have to claim a dragon & it has to let you claim it..
@MN-vz8qm
@MN-vz8qm 2 жыл бұрын
Vaeghar is indeed a huge win for the Hightower side. This dragon is huge, one of the 3 original dragons (and last surviving) who came with Aegon Targaryan when he conquered Westeros. I have not read the book (no spoiler please) but I am pretty sure this beast will kill one or several dragons (and riders) from the other side when things will turn to war.
@daquaviousbingleton9763
@daquaviousbingleton9763 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and it eats one of the main characters
@daroe2340
@daroe2340 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the claiming of Vhagar turns out to be the thing that escalates the dance to levels that cannot be good for anyone involved.
@daquaviousbingleton9763
@daquaviousbingleton9763 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aemond2024 no aemond is on the greens yes he himself is a targeryon tho
@MN-vz8qm
@MN-vz8qm 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aemond2024 both are targaryan, i used hightower to discriminate between the two, consideringbthat this side is pushed mostly by the hightowers
@philipgodsworth4764
@philipgodsworth4764 2 жыл бұрын
Dragon’s aren’t property, it’s disrespectful but not theft.
@chrissy2356
@chrissy2356 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra is still dripping with daemon 😂
@samer.4660
@samer.4660 2 жыл бұрын
laenor velaryon still alive scene should revealed before daemon and rhaenyra wedding because everyone shock about laenor death no one pay attention how beautiful and weird the wedding are
@Millicente
@Millicente 2 жыл бұрын
Yo these guys really dislike the Targs. I think they're misunderstanding Rhaenyra completely. She's really not the manipulating person they seem to think she is. If anything Alicent is more the manipulator, her and her father.
@YaBoyRockLee
@YaBoyRockLee 2 жыл бұрын
ZERO Dislike for them actually. You’re missing our intention and/or not watching the reactions to completion. Which is your choice. But you can’t understand our view if you skip. It’s like watching part of an episode and thinking you know the content
@leonardohenrique5172
@leonardohenrique5172 Жыл бұрын
emma darcy who plays rhaenyra said she was gaslighting the whole room in the scene after aemond loses his eye, and that she was weaponizing the word "treason", she's more manipulative than you think.
@phatcat4384
@phatcat4384 2 жыл бұрын
Alicent once said that the "Targaryans have weird customs" as shade. Then, she betrothed her son to her daughter XD
@sukidawter
@sukidawter 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra HAS to be strategic with her moves now. Her children’s life are in danger. It was all her plan & because she loves Laenor, she spared his life. Alicent is very capable of doing dirt. She sliced Rhaenyra’s arm. Alicent is the Karen of the keep. Team Rhaenyra always! Great reaction as always!!❤❤
@robertwalker1001
@robertwalker1001 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny how their lives weren't in danger until Alicent believed her children's lives were in danger. Makes you wonder if Otto didn't plant that seed in her head if they would be one happy family right now.
@Dizzyboot613
@Dizzyboot613 2 жыл бұрын
​@@robertwalker1001 he was definitely the catalyst! Rhaneyra even tried to marry their kids together and Alicent refused. She could've just let the feud drop then and have both Households (Targaryen and Hightower) rule
@Malkavius2
@Malkavius2 2 жыл бұрын
Like usual, great reaction y'all. 🖤 That's pretty much all I have to add, it's 2am so my mind's not in the thinking mood. BTW: Count me among the numbers of people who listen to your discussions after the episodes, they're great. Y'all are great.
@YaBoyRockLee
@YaBoyRockLee 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏽
@jordanrivers5825
@jordanrivers5825 2 жыл бұрын
Dragons aren’t passed down like an inheritance, when their former rider dies they’re basically free game for any one of Targaryen or valerian blood to claim. Rhaena has no more right than Aemond does, just because her mother rode her. Aemonds grandfather also was vhagars rider at one point
@AzkuulaKtaktu
@AzkuulaKtaktu 2 жыл бұрын
Alicent's daughter CAN be trusted, spouting prophecy like that.
@thefatman2780
@thefatman2780 2 жыл бұрын
TO MY KHALEESI & BOTH BRAVE KNIGHTS OF THE REALM. I WISH YOU ALL GOOD FORTUNE IN THE WARS TO COME.
@bani_niba
@bani_niba 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra and Daemon were part of Laenor's secret escape. Daemon killed a servant as the replacement corpse. Also, that's why Daemon said they needed a witness for the supposed death.
@cheapPixel
@cheapPixel 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra is an example of someone who does irrational and radical choices but deals with them in a calm and logical manner. It allows her to get mostly scot-free and makes us the audience look at her more favorably. Alicent, on the other hand, is technically doing everything right of a traditional noble lady, but her pent up emotions causes her to deal with them irrationally. It makes her look crazier than she actually is and make us much less sympathetic towards her, even if she does have a point. This fight was probably the clearest example of this. Rhaenyra knows the position she has placed her and her sons in, and yet the confidence and sternness of her tone allows her to appear morally superior. Even though her sons are bastards and one of them mutilated their relative, she managed to control the conversation. Alicent, on the other hand, was rightfully furious that her son's eyes was just sliced off, but she's even more frustrated that justice isn't being served despite doing everything right. She's furious that Viserys isn't doing more to fix this. Alicent can't take control of situation like Rhaenyra can, and thus appears more crazy than she actually is. She finally snaps and the two women finally clash in a fight of ideologies, and it couldn't have been filmed and written better.
@albenkane7820
@albenkane7820 2 жыл бұрын
Rhae kids little rule over the iron throne in the end anyways
@der_imperial
@der_imperial 2 жыл бұрын
Alicent has had to follow laws and Rhaenyra doesn't simply cause of who they are, she is a princess while alicent isn't, alicent is blaming viserys for taking his daughter side when she would do same for her children, cause now they are the royals. Alicent is not royal so obviously she won't be as free as Rhaenyra. She hates just because they are born in different stations, Rhaenyra is born so much higher than her.
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