Finding The Right Interface For A Hybrid Workflow - Antelope Orion 32+ Gen4 vs Focusrite Red Line 16

[@simeonmatthews4584]

THANKYOU SO MUCH. I have been looking at moving away from UAD. I have enough money for an Antelope Audio unit. But what I really wanted was the 16 line. I’m now just going to save the money up and get the 16 line. It’s a 7 year old unit but it obviously knocks the socks off Antelope for stability. Another month and it’s mine. Once again. Thanks so much for helping me make the right decision.

[@angermanagementstudios]

I’ve used Focusrite interfaces for the last 20 years of my career. In the few instances where I’ve had an issue, the tech support has been brilliant. I don’t recommend many companies but focusrite are one that I absolutely do.

[@dannyprecysroadtoforever5234]

Great video, It sold me on the RME UFX 3. Best purchase I've ever made for my studio

[@TacomaEscape]

That sounds like a very rough experience with the Orion. I’d trash the interface too lol! I just made the switch to the Antelope Galaxy 64 this week. So far no issues and everything registered and is working like it should. I’ll be testing the heck out of it to make sure it’s a keeper. So far support has been quick to reply when I have questions. Give me another month and hopefully I’ll be saying the same thing otherwise I’ll be throwing it into the trash lol!

[@TheGeneralHoudini]

I have had the exact same experiences with the exact same Antelope interface. I really hate Antelope now. It's been a very, very negative experience. I'm so tired of hearing influencers pretending it's great, but they obviously don't use it themselves. Good video.

[@osands]

My gen 3 works great for years now. Its a MEGA BEAST. It can be a little finicky once in a while but for the most part pretty rock solid!

[@ifitsoundsgood]

@@osandsI’ve heard this before too! That the gen 3 is great. So my question is, what happened?!

[@osands]

@@ifitsoundsgood the first unit I got had channels that bled audio into other channels. New unit is perfect.

[@hoborec]

Oh what a bummer with the Orion. I think I had the exact same issue on my first Orion Gen 1 like ten years ago. I solved that by just uninstalling the drivers and it worked flawlessly for some reason haha. I got the Gen 4 in February and it's been solid all the way. Don't really remember the issues with finding the software stuff. But yeah a lot of companies has really unintuitive websites. I don't fuck around with chasing stuff often so when I do It's allways a hassle trying to figure out where all different plugins are registered and licensing and all that. Great video!

[@camshash]

FWIW my Orion Gen4 has been rock solid on apple silicon mac. I did have an issue with the multichannel monitoring system early on but Antelope did a remote team-view session and solved it. I agree their website is very clunky tho.

[@kamilzamorowski3142]

ohhh you don't even know how much I would love to create custom firmware, driver and control software for antelope devices and share it opensource to flash your antelope and bring to this cool hardware new life.

[@ifitsoundsgood]

I mean, go for it! I’m sure folks would appreciate it and it would be a welcome upgrade from whatever is floating around on the Antelope website. Unfortunately for me, that time has come and gone and I’m happier for it. But knock yourself out!

[@andymhawkes26]

MORE MORE MORE MORE

[@ledzep20]

Is your studio in a shed? If so, looks great!

[@ifitsoundsgood]

Thanks very much! Yes it is in a shed. I really hope to do a video series soon about it and how it came about.

[@VladBornuz]

nice video! and yeah, same experience with Antelope...worst decision ever, and just because I trusted the influencers on YT

[@paultp12cora]

I Have The Red 16 For About 2 Years Its Greet No Probs Good Sound With Two Octopre it Gives me 16 strero Out To My Two Dangerous 2Bus+ Plus Eq And To My Neve MBC

[@noreaction1]

Can you use all the inputs from the interface to the daw via Dante? What would I miss out on if I didn’t have thunderbolt but I did have a 2.5 gig Ethernet port on the back of my pc

[@ifitsoundsgood]

That's an interesting idea! I suppose that if you were ok with every default setting of the interface you could run Dante virtural soundcard on your PC and treat it like another network device. That idea is UNTESTED and just my best guess. What you'd loose is any functionality beyond that. The Rednet control app, any monitoring or routing option and firmware updates are all done vie the thunderbolt bus (or HDX if that's your flavor). And setting up what virtual channels get routed to monitors and things like that really do require the use of the control app. Overall, IMO I would not recommend that. You'd be loosing out on way too much of control of the interface.

[@dmitryleeo]

Mine didn't want to work, although I did everything in order. Then I found that post on Reddit where the guy write that you should download app for gen 3 and with it everything fell into place. As I understand it is connected with different revisions of interfaces, but why not write about it on the web site? Otherwise, the interface is cool, it really sounds well and virtual patchbey is amazing.

[@osands]

Damn that sucks. My orion 32+ gen 3 works damn well except once in a while I need to do a hard power recycle but I have it on a wifi outlet for that so I can do it from my phone.

[@annekedebruyn7797]

That's the classic Antelope experience. It works until it doesn't and when it doesn't, there is barely to no support. They make great hardware, but they should stop releasing new interfaces every year which kills off the last gen ones and start actually taking care of their customers and fix the interfaces before ending its life cycle.

[@osands]

@@annekedebruyn7797 I havent had to contact support in like two years after they swapped my first unit for me because it had hardware issues. Oh actually I recently asked them if it was OK to move to sequoia yet and they got back to me in 24 hours. Not saying they are the greatest though thats for sure. YMMV!

[@bmtbeatz920]

You gotta check your computer maybe it has some issues., I know antelope software works well wth some computers not all gon experience the same plus check your Ram too

[@ifitsoundsgood]

@@bmtbeatz920 brand new Mac mini M2 pro with maxed out ram.

[@thashisho]

The guys at Antelope and its management are a bunch of …… Their hardware is amazing however their software and support are really rubbish and this seems not changing anytime soon!!!

[@PhonicDeep]

bla bla bla... bad product.... bla bla bla no headphones ouput... bla bla bla I am a tech guy credability. Well maybe the problem was related to your computer? a Ye, bla bla bla bad software.... bla bla bla the support didn't answer my phone, but then I get in touch with them and they fixed my problem by downgrading the driver.... bla bla bla but then I decide to update the driver and see what is going to happen... bla bla bla... I like Focusrite. Thank you, you are dismissed. P.S. bla bla bla compare the price of this rednet to Orion32+ Gen.4. Also Rednet dynamic range of dante 119db vs 129 for Orion? AMAZING CONVERTERS DUDE, AMAZING :D

[@ifitsoundsgood]

@thegeneralhoudini and @VladBornuz while that makes me feel a little better that I'm not the only one having these issues, what a bummer right? I'm sure none of us bought that box thinking it was going to be a failure. Just crippled by bad software. Too bad.