UNPOPULAR AUDIO OPINIONS: "STUDIO" Monitoring Is The BIGGEST LIE In Audio Engineering

[@PaulThird]

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[@cefk9944]

There's an old musician joke, that still rings true (until you have learned enough to not fall for the industry's traps): Q: As a musician .. what's the quickest way to get to $1 million? A: Well, that's very easy .. you just have to start with $2 million!

[@MisterStone-bb8bn]

Great vid. Straight forward and no filters. A vid for thoughts.

[@PaulThird]

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[@nedim_guitar]

OMG! All the stuff about flat response, distortion and about "detailed and accurate", and transient response, and headroom... Just... I'll just use the headphones and speakers that I have, use my ears and take it from there.

[@PaulThird]

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[@malaclypse1409]

Yeah, that AP Mastering guy is high on his own farts. Learn monitors/cans you like, and use them.

[@_mickmccarthy]

Such a bizarre character. "X is a scam, Y is a scam, Z is a scam! Btw, buy my course where I'll show you how to build speakers better that all these companies that have teams working on the design & production with decades of experience" He does make some half-decent points every now and then, but his delivery is woeful. Sounds like a conspiracy theorist half the time.

[@oupahens9219]

I like the room at 1:35.

[@PaulThird]

Blackbird I'm pretty sure

[@JamesJones-th3ml]

I think it depends on what you come from. Like me. I started with a Roland VS 1880 digital recorder LOL I also had these big home speakers Cerwin vega and Pioneer LOL I loved how it sounded on the huge speakers, but the mix sounded horrible LOL. I learned that smaller monitors were more mid range type speakers so I bought some KRK Rokits a long time ago man. Back in 1998 I think it was. I mixed on that with a PC and wound up so surprised at how everything I mixed seem to sound like it did when I listened through the monitors. I have KRK 8 Version 4 now. I don't think the Bass ports are designed the same way as the older ones. BUT like I said in another post does it make the checklist? YES they do. I raise up the speakers a bit higher than recommended to hear the bass better. Plus, I am just mixing my own music so it doesn't have to be to any standards. I just know that my mix sounds as big as Metallica! I play metal so that was important to me! Now I can mix pretty much anything through these monitors man. So I'm one who actually loves KRK... The Rokits I had back then worked well BUT these I have now are way better.

[@jaimegarcia7180]

This a very good video! I always wondered the same thing. Why are some studio and others H-Fi Audiophile type. But u said it the best- “Sound is just too subjective to put a standard on it”

[@PaulThird]

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[@simonrussell77]

‘Phase k’heathrance’ haha love it!!

[@anatol1204]

For me the most important is the tracking session there is where mix starts.What closed headphone you use for tracking apart of Sundara?

[@PaulThird]

Ollo S5X. Probably buy a few sony's just for spares

[@JamesJones-th3ml]

I been hearing the same about Rocket 5s and 6s but I never really heard anyone even talk about Rokit 8s so not sure what the Standard thinks about it LOL But I do like them. I think it was how the big speakers I started with allowed me to hear what I was doing wrong when I went to the Rokit 8s I never used smaller rokit speakers. BUT I have heard other people say the same thing about the low end. I think 8s make it a bit easier plus like I said it all depends on the height of the monitors and if you have a sub or not to hear the low end better. I had to fix all the Rokit spellings LMAO I had to look on the back to remember how it was spelled LMAO

[@alexgwiza]

Paul Third is underrated and missunderstood!

[@PaulThird]

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[@thegroove2000]

The perfections in imperfections.

[@traktor7372]

Watching this video on my Amphions with Arc 4 correction hehe. The Arc4 is for sure not optimal but I have always used room correction and Arc 4 does the job I want it to do.

[@PaulThird]

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[@sideast]

I've known of engineers winning mix competitions using Dt770 headphones 😂

[@PaulThird]

It's a subjective world. If you can make them work, you can make them work

[@blaise1111]

Are you able to provide links to their mixes for reference? That would be incredibly helpful.

[@sideast]

@ yea it's over on Dave Pensado's site

[@FelixLanzalaco]

we know what video you are referring to, the swearing builds up then lol. However (and i am not connected to that guy in any way). For years I have been refining my own budget medium monitor builds and kind of converged on what he was doing in my own build. I was trying to achieve something like that, buying the driver units from £25k speakers for virtually nothing.. . so had made something similiar, after plugging up all the ports previously (in genelecs etc).. and was considering the transmission line box to complete it. And this was after a long period of consideration having been around linn products from the inside, and also was the engineer of a commercial scottish studio when younger. Now I just feel your review was way too reactionary and all over the place. First of all you muddy the water by making a long list of hifi specs as if there is no reduced selection of tech specs which actually works well for mid range hifi designs. We just didnt get them in budget studio gear till the past few years, but you can take about a dozen benchmarks and beat anything the budget recording industry makes. Dont you respect those for your better speakers ? Then you list of a couple of pics of serban etc. But this tells us not a lot, we dont know if they are pre-production, mixing or mastering in that studio, and was everything they worked on that good or they didnt have compromises they would prefer not to have ? Rather you should have waited a month or two, calmed down, then bought his build to actually see the thinking behind it, then reviewed his course. I dont think he is recommending to just use those speakers and nothing else or not to do all the usual room tuning, multi device and adaptation stuff anyway so bit of a strawman anyway. However what he says is valid, the big speaker manufacturers stuff is way overpriced, and so much lower priced stuff is unusable if your music has any complexity... so you can buy the bits yourself and DIY for a tiny fraction of the price. Whether he achieved it I dont know. i.e. Review his course, did he test the drivers time domain and off axis response when integrated. The backplate amplifier he mentioned supposedly has software to do all that. How good is the amp in terms of slew rate, driver control (at the studio volume) and other metrics etc for the fast response that studio monitors need. How well tested was his driver choice in terms of dispersion control, driver contol.. or the various harmonics, distortions etc you mentioned. How well tested was the box, how linear etc. Do a comparison with PMC maybe using software analysis. Of course that would be EXPENSIVE in time and resources, but you could have sent it to a mid range hifi build forum for review. Easier to just rant like that, and I really did not feel educated at all here. However its still a cool channel thats free, so overall no complaints. And you still have my thumbs up for keeping the debate happening.

[@PaulThird]

It's not a review whatsoever. Kind of feels like you've missed the whole point of the video and focused on a side bit that's a very small portion of the video. "whether he achieved it or not, I don't know" Thats why I don't advise anybody to spend £2k on building an unproven pair of speakers from someone who has no proven track record of making reliable trusted speakers Anyway, I dont want to focus too much on it as its not important at all to the overall message of the video

[@daviHuggMonster]

hehehehe...now they start with the same nonsense at in High End. So much nonsense. I did choose my new ones to be HS7 and pretty happy with them for my room,at least better then the Alesis I had before. Much of these measured details I don't hear anyway anymore. I chosen mine because of space,design and budget.

[@PaulThird]

Why not go for Kali LP8 then? Same size factor, price, more low end, neutral, boring. Pretty much opposite of HS7

[@joechapman8208]

17:58 AP Mastering subtweet detected

[@JamesJones-th3ml]

HONESTLY man if we can make something sound good on a ROCK a boulder in the street it means that it is good enough to mix with LOL I say make a checkbox. Does it Work? LOL I mean does it have sound... YES does it have enough range that you can hear things enough to make a good mix YES and last but not least. When you do the mix down is it sounding like you thought it would Yes?... then its good enough.... What's his name??? Something Scheps I can't think right now BUT he is great at mixing music, and he has this 90 dollar pair of headphones which he says is what he always uses. LOL I guess if it works that's all I want anyways. LOL It really doesn't matter if it meets any standards if it does what I need it to do. Keep Rockin! Dig the studio man.

[@PaulThird]

Apparently schepps has moved to Audeze now. Quite the contrast haha

[@carldubcats3385]

Some crazy rooms out there.

[@PaulThird]

All shapes and sizes 🤓

[@jorvten360]

Just name this bullshit full of crap, KZbinr…but I do understanding, it looks like this idiot is also from UK, meaning he could sue you easily. Or you just don’t want to give him more visibility on his channel. Well spoken, very good info especially for the new kids on the block. Keep it up mate:) btw I got the nanos after your video, but the Sony MDR M1 Is to my ears more revealing the frequency curve of the original material. That’s already measured in the internet 😂 Look , having several headphones is really important, the M1 - nano combo, is a serious working setup for mixing and mastering. Keep up the good videos mate, you against the internet,- instant classic !🥳

[@PaulThird]

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[@ardierr.2525]

What do you think about audiosciencereview? I like it to have informations but..what they define good or bad is absolute not useful for me

[@PaulThird]

Take it for what it is. Extra context behind what you hear. A lot of the distortion measurements may be a bit OTT as he likes to stress test a lot by using 94db SPL and above but it's pretty good for checking if something has a specifc design flaw. ASR is a really good resource for headphone amps in my opinion.