Bench Grinder Basics

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FineWoodworking

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Learn how to use a conventional bench grinder for perfect bevels on your chisels. Visit FineWoodworking.com for more woodworking technique videos.

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@ILuv2learn
@ILuv2learn 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a similar tool rest and was looking for information about how best to use it. Your video was exactly what I needed. I watched it a couple of times. Thank you and Fine Woodworking for showing us how.
@graydation
@graydation 7 жыл бұрын
I think a more appropriate title would have been "How to sharpen a chisel" Since a bench grinder can be used for far more things.
@dannyhale7645
@dannyhale7645 Жыл бұрын
I've watched a lot of videos on how to sharpen chisels/plane irons on a bench grinder. This is the first video I've seen that explained the process in a clear manner. It's the only video I've seen on the subject that was actually helpful. I ended up getting a jig made by Peach Tree, from Amazon. It works great. I use it with a vintage hand crank grinder, so there's no worry about overheating and losing the temper. I can lock it into the sliding mechanism, and check it with a small machinist square. Then I can slide it left and right, with my left hand, while cranking the grinder with my right. I briefly tried doing it free hand on an electric grinder. Very briefly. That was a disaster. I'm pretty sure the guys who do it free hand are using some sort of black magic.
@DowningGoliath
@DowningGoliath Жыл бұрын
Still a relevant way to sharpen and great tips on how to set proper angles, but I've heard you should NOT quench the metal! Severe temperature changes in the metal created by dipping it in cold water has the possibility of creating hairline cracks in the metal at the thinnest part of the blade. If your tool is that hot, you've probably left it on the wheel too long, or are pushing too hard. A really neat trick is to use a heat sink from a discarded computer to help cool the steel without risking changing the metalurgy of the steel - it works amazingly well. I've also noticed that the specific grinder used by Asa in this video is a "low" speed grinder (
@mjremy2605
@mjremy2605 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see your comment. I'm very new to bench grinders. If I invest in this expensive CBN Wheel, do you have a brand name that is good?
@fredgonzini7099
@fredgonzini7099 2 жыл бұрын
Great video I like to watch videos that are general because if I pick up one new thing it's a positive.
@daleney7211
@daleney7211 4 жыл бұрын
great job teacher, novice wood turner. struggled sharpening cutting tools. thanks.
@peterharrison8756
@peterharrison8756 6 жыл бұрын
Very useful information for someone new !!
@allanfischer9417
@allanfischer9417 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! There is a ton of good info here and great "how to" for those getting started.
@rickgoebel6724
@rickgoebel6724 6 жыл бұрын
That is a slow speed grinder running at 1750 RPM not the "usual" grinder which runs at 3600 RPM. The higher speed is going to heat up the tool even faster. But I like the idea of the rounded grinding face of the wheel which I will tryout tonight.
@KonwTheTrut
@KonwTheTrut 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for this video. Very informative, including mentioning the diamond rougher and the veritas jig. Helps a lot!
@thesickening0169
@thesickening0169 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this video. One of the best I've seen yet.
@robohippy
@robohippy 11 жыл бұрын
As some one from the wood lathe world, which put my flat work world mostly on hold, this sharpening video is 2 to 3 years out of date. CBN grinding wheels are so much better than standard wheels, that the standard friable wheels are now obsolete. Check out D Way grinding wheels.
@robertmunguia250
@robertmunguia250 11 ай бұрын
I’m having a hard time getting my chisels like that! That’s great sharpening.
@MrAnderslilja83
@MrAnderslilja83 3 жыл бұрын
The most likeable person i've seen on youtube
@DogGuy19
@DogGuy19 9 жыл бұрын
Very informative video, I appreciate it very much. I'll be getting one of those jigs and hopefully I can sharpen things quickly and easily just like you demonstrate. Thanks for sharing!!!
@brianshanahan3878
@brianshanahan3878 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. This is exactly what I was looking for!
@Rampant_Mongoose
@Rampant_Mongoose 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for video I learned a lot.
@TheGamefisher1
@TheGamefisher1 7 ай бұрын
Extremely helpful many thanks
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@-_.._._--_.-.-_-_-_-...-.- 6 ай бұрын
And Fine Machining! Excellent!
@That1towncar
@That1towncar 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou! Very clear informative video!
@OldNavajoTricks
@OldNavajoTricks 4 жыл бұрын
The Bob Ross of benchgrinding...
@makasdiy
@makasdiy 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, thanks!
@valveman12
@valveman12 8 жыл бұрын
Great Tips Excellent Video
@tylersureddin321
@tylersureddin321 8 жыл бұрын
This really helped me with my knife making. Thought I made a mistake getting a bench grinder instead of a belt.
@jacksonbrooks6782
@jacksonbrooks6782 8 жыл бұрын
I have both and do the same as you, as nice as the belt is I actually prefer the grinder.
@anthonyglassey3200
@anthonyglassey3200 5 жыл бұрын
Jackson Brooks can you use the bench grinder for handle shaping? I’m looking to get either a bench grinder or a belt sander.
@escalator9734
@escalator9734 5 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyglassey3200 Get a 2*72 or 2*48 belt grinder.
@watermain48
@watermain48 7 жыл бұрын
Nice tutorial, thanks for sharing.
@colinmurdoch9025
@colinmurdoch9025 7 жыл бұрын
Normal grit size for roughing out is 30 and for finishing is 60 ( makers advice)
@ognjenradojevic
@ognjenradojevic 3 жыл бұрын
In that case, can the grain size of 120 be used for polishing? I've got at a disposal an even finer wheel, I suppose it should be used for final polishing of the cutting edge?
@johnbesharian9965
@johnbesharian9965 2 жыл бұрын
​@@ognjenradojevic, "Final Polishing" of what "Edge"? What are we talking about? Lawnmower Blades, or Carving Chisels? Grits like 36 & 60 are mostly for coarse work in the metalworking trades, especially on the 3400 RPM bench grinder. While a 1750 RPM (slow speed - dry) bench grinder would be better for wood working tools, I find 100 & 120. or 150 grit, with a light touch, is much better for shaping and getting the wood working blades prepped for stoning than anything coarser. Don't forget, for most all blades, the back inch or so must be flattened before you shape the edge, and again after you stone the blade you have to once again hold the back of the blade FLAT against the stone to remove the burr with a few passes. Then it's as sharp as you've made it.
@d0g3n
@d0g3n 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Really enjoyed it!
@colinmurdoch9025
@colinmurdoch9025 7 жыл бұрын
NORTON Friable wheels in UK are named FLIXOVIT
@NaveenKumar-oj7xh
@NaveenKumar-oj7xh 4 жыл бұрын
Fucking pisses me off when companies do that.
@whimpey109
@whimpey109 10 жыл бұрын
I always fimd it very satisfying sharpening my tools this way and feel the tool work its way through the material with ease!
@henrysmovieclub
@henrysmovieclub 10 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thanks for sharing!
@travissmith7471
@travissmith7471 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing... This has been very helpful...
@WBToolNews
@WBToolNews 4 жыл бұрын
A helpful classic video.
@connguy146
@connguy146 6 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Thank you.
@DeeegerD
@DeeegerD 5 жыл бұрын
I just bought a new grinder and didn't look at the kind of wheel because I looked at the 50% off ;) That's my kind of tool.
@TheJKDGuy
@TheJKDGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You So much 💪❤️😀
@colinmurdoch9025
@colinmurdoch9025 7 жыл бұрын
NORTON wheels have large bores - need to be supplied with bushings to suit your grinder spindle.
@jutoku4379
@jutoku4379 11 ай бұрын
This jig only works with long shank chisels. And flat shapes
@mjremy2605
@mjremy2605 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, thank you! Subscribed! I needed the tool rest information, and grinding chisel blade tips. 1. Can you recommend a good quality grinding wheel dresser tool? So much junk on Amazon. 2. Anyone know of a decent CBN grinding wheel? Apparently it is better (and cheaper) than a diamond grinding wheel as it does not heat up easily and second in hardness after a diamond. So you get 4 things with a CBN (Cubic Boron Nitride) wheel: Bushings are machined and fit well reducing vibration of wheel, material is a heat sink and does not overheat, it is much harder than regular stone wheels, you do not need to prep the wheel with dressing it like a stone wheel. Prices on Amazon run $70 - $80 each for CBN wheels, and they vary in arbor hole size. Some are 'diamond' coated but avoid these. Get the all CBN material. Not sure of what grit to get either -80 or finer, to sharpen chisels, drill bits, and kitchen knives. I am a novice at sharpening and bench grinders. I could really use some help. I also need a 6" bench grinder and was considering the Metabo. It is easy to slip off the housing guards and this is a big advantage. Please advise - anyone?
@scottpetrie8707
@scottpetrie8707 5 жыл бұрын
Nicely done.
@Osckarre
@Osckarre 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome tips thanks for the upload!
@williamweatherall8333
@williamweatherall8333 4 жыл бұрын
This video is great
@tianyinjia
@tianyinjia 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful thanks
@Jatindersingh-my8tj
@Jatindersingh-my8tj Жыл бұрын
🌹Greetings 🌹 and Bravo 🔔
@Fretnagin
@Fretnagin 2 жыл бұрын
From a safety perspective I suggest installing an eye shield and wearing safety glasses. Thanks
@beakfordclakington1337
@beakfordclakington1337 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for some actual knowledge and vaiable actual info which is maybe SO missing in the zoomer (or whatver ) age God speed u
@TonyTormento
@TonyTormento 2 ай бұрын
How to prevent the grinding stone kicking back the tool ?
@scottmartin7717
@scottmartin7717 Жыл бұрын
How are the first two tips of a bench grinder *basics* video to throw away your wheel and throw away your tool rest?
@Fifty8day
@Fifty8day 10 жыл бұрын
thanks for the tips
@MegaSolo15
@MegaSolo15 9 жыл бұрын
Yes is used to sharpen knifes, axe and all those things
@ALTMED
@ALTMED 9 жыл бұрын
Is this grinder also used for sharpening knives? Thank you
@MrRacerhacker
@MrRacerhacker 9 жыл бұрын
you can.
@Tito74
@Tito74 7 жыл бұрын
Faisal Almaiman use a sander
@MegaMetinMetin
@MegaMetinMetin 7 жыл бұрын
TekNyc74 no
@juancifuentes9956
@juancifuentes9956 Жыл бұрын
This is worth content in this days where any idiot is call influencer
@Videos-in-the-OR
@Videos-in-the-OR 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! kindly a link where to buy this adjustable rest?
@TeePeeB
@TeePeeB 8 жыл бұрын
Do you need another compliment? You have it. Outstanding! Thank you.
@ProximoK
@ProximoK 2 жыл бұрын
This is what I've never understood about bench grinders: If you are chisel grinding an edge, don't you want a flat grind? Doesn't the wheel lend itself to a concave edge geometry?
@lebensschueler
@lebensschueler Жыл бұрын
Thats actually an advatage. Because you need to sharpen less steel with a fine water stone.
@colinmurdoch9025
@colinmurdoch9025 7 жыл бұрын
The Axminster 100245 tool rest includes the straight edge guide
@robertbrandywine
@robertbrandywine 2 жыл бұрын
If I want to use MDF wheels to sharpen knives, do I buy a bench grinder? Do I want 6" or 8"? What shaft size is most common?
@sleekspeed22
@sleekspeed22 11 ай бұрын
@FineWoodworking Great Video. I found a great deal on a Bench Grinder but the week is really small ~5" What do I give up with a small wheel?
@Postghost
@Postghost 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you, sir.
@colinmurdoch9025
@colinmurdoch9025 7 жыл бұрын
norton advise grit size for roughing out is 30 and for finishing is 60
@senorboardhead
@senorboardhead 5 жыл бұрын
Newbie question: I have (new to me) a sealed Craftsman commercial 6" grinder and two new wheels. The nuts that go on the arbor tighten clockwise on the Right side and counterclockwise on the Left. There is no place on the inside of the wheels to grasp the shaft. How do I get the nuts tight on the arbor without the shaft spinning ? There is no place where the shaft can be held like on a Dremel, and a wedge will not work, as the arbor just spins. What is the proper technique to tighten these nuts ? By hand perhaps and the spin does the rest ? Jam nuts don 't seem to be a very good idea. Perplexed.
@aspincelaframboise5300
@aspincelaframboise5300 5 жыл бұрын
senorboardhead; You need to use both hands and maybe use a wood wedge while you tighten the nut. Your grinder will need both wheels to be balanced (not wobbling). Then and only then do you dress your wheels true. If done well your grinder will hummmmmm along with you while you sharpen your tools. An important thing is to have FUN doing it eh… ÜïÖ
@mastaloui
@mastaloui 11 жыл бұрын
Yes, with a wetstone. And create another barely visible bevel. This will keep it sharp for longer.
@TheChipiboy
@TheChipiboy 11 жыл бұрын
Can you use this on some dull kitchen knifes?
@tigertrucker3971
@tigertrucker3971 8 жыл бұрын
very helpful thank you
@TheDracoChick
@TheDracoChick 9 жыл бұрын
What about using a grinding tool for carving things like gemstones? Or does that take another set of tools entirely?
@Wieselkatze
@Wieselkatze 10 жыл бұрын
Can i sharpen my knives with a benchgrinder :O?
@dougquaid
@dougquaid 3 жыл бұрын
I would have rolled up my sleeves and wore safety glasses, that would be a good start.
@NaveenKumar-oj7xh
@NaveenKumar-oj7xh 4 жыл бұрын
This is not Bench Grinder basics. This is Sharpening Chisel basics.
@justfaz4177
@justfaz4177 7 жыл бұрын
Can u leave a link under this comment for the little rest thingy for the blade?
@khairulfarihan93
@khairulfarihan93 Жыл бұрын
What grit that stone?
@richiefinn
@richiefinn 7 ай бұрын
wouldnt it be better to use the sliding carrier rather than wobble all over the place . nice information though.
@Peter-976
@Peter-976 4 жыл бұрын
How come no mention of grinder wheel speed?
@irmaztamal21
@irmaztamal21 5 жыл бұрын
Where can i get the angle tool rest ?
@madscientistshusta
@madscientistshusta 6 жыл бұрын
If your grinder is bogging down can you fix the motor?
@lynnmlm147
@lynnmlm147 5 жыл бұрын
can you use plastic on a bench grinder. I have blocks of hdpe plastic that im trying to clean up
@miroslawsulma5142
@miroslawsulma5142 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@deezynar
@deezynar 11 жыл бұрын
I'd use a square to keep the chisel, or plane blade at a 90 degree angle. Freehanding isn't any faster.
@carlnikolov
@carlnikolov 3 жыл бұрын
what kind of grinding stone is he using?
@MrLiveEra
@MrLiveEra 11 жыл бұрын
Any tips on grinding a standard chisel to a skew chisel?
@Al-ds3sw
@Al-ds3sw 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video but you only sharpen half of it you forgot the most important part before you sharpen the Bevel you most flatten the back of the chisel or you’re not going to have the sharpest tool possible Flattening the back Is the hardest and longest part of sharpening a chisel in many times overlooked I hope this helps you going forward
@johnbesharian9965
@johnbesharian9965 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. And, for anyone not familiar with the concept, you do not flatten the back of a blade on the bench grinder but on your sharpening stone - Oil, Water, or Diamond.
@apsdhimaanwoodworks8371
@apsdhimaanwoodworks8371 Жыл бұрын
Wheel name plz
@aguswidi9316
@aguswidi9316 3 жыл бұрын
1:22 what is the name of the tools ? And Where I can buy it?
@AL-ps6qg
@AL-ps6qg 6 жыл бұрын
I hate my old wheels I have one that is warped so it shakes by bench to pieces andthe other one would deteriorate if I used it
@PartyChicken407
@PartyChicken407 4 жыл бұрын
What do you do with the burr at the end?
@CrankyFrankie59
@CrankyFrankie59 7 жыл бұрын
I think that was a 1,750rpm 8" grinder as opposed to the 3,000rpm 6" grinder. Much better with low rpm.
@samsson6430
@samsson6430 4 жыл бұрын
Is that an 8in bench grinder?
@GZE92Dovetail
@GZE92Dovetail 4 жыл бұрын
What brand is the grinder thanks
@AloeVera84
@AloeVera84 6 жыл бұрын
and what do we do with the burr?
@thepurdychannel8866
@thepurdychannel8866 6 жыл бұрын
Justino_Jose remove it to make it even sharper
@thepurdychannel8866
@thepurdychannel8866 6 жыл бұрын
Justino_Jose remove it by grinding or sharpening it it flat at no angle on the back of the chisel
@tagrfid
@tagrfid 11 жыл бұрын
which is the model of your Bench Grinder, very thanks
@ooltimu
@ooltimu 7 жыл бұрын
What grain has the wheel you're using?
@coolvideotubes
@coolvideotubes 5 жыл бұрын
what make/model is the grinder in this video?
@J0eCh0p
@J0eCh0p 9 жыл бұрын
no eyeshields?
@leonruvalcaba1549
@leonruvalcaba1549 5 жыл бұрын
Hes wearing glusses already mannn
@deathblosomrules
@deathblosomrules 8 жыл бұрын
What grit wheel is best for sharpening tools?
@FineWoodworking
@FineWoodworking 8 жыл бұрын
Lower grits (courser) do the work faster and heat the tool up less. 60 or 80 grit is a good place to start.
@gerribarnes1613
@gerribarnes1613 7 жыл бұрын
FineWoodworking b
@brucefaw8037
@brucefaw8037 7 жыл бұрын
Gerri Barnes a
@forturetools
@forturetools 6 жыл бұрын
rough grit use 60# OR 80# if want better surfacing result of the edge use finer 150# then finer
@harryjohnson9215
@harryjohnson9215 4 жыл бұрын
What's happeneds if you use the side??????
@johnbesharian9965
@johnbesharian9965 2 жыл бұрын
Highly not recommended. The wheel can split and/or shatter.
@thebeardedmanman7491
@thebeardedmanman7491 7 жыл бұрын
Just a question what is that vaccuum looking thing in the background i have seen them only a few times and never knew what they were
@AloeVera84
@AloeVera84 6 жыл бұрын
they suck most of the dust, attached to cutting or grinding machines
@thepurdychannel8866
@thepurdychannel8866 6 жыл бұрын
Thebeardedman Man there extractor fans to remove dust or fumes
@Gunkaleh
@Gunkaleh 11 жыл бұрын
Would one remove the burr on a flat stone after grinding?
@porteal8986
@porteal8986 5 жыл бұрын
While honing yes, but not on the grinder
@johnbesharian9965
@johnbesharian9965 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. The bench grinder is to prep the blade for the sharpening stone. You should flatten the final inch or so of the blade on your stone before grinding to have a reference point for the shaping on the grinder. Then, after the grinder shaping and then the stoning, you must again lightly flatten the back to remove the burr.
@pineridgecarpenters6130
@pineridgecarpenters6130 4 жыл бұрын
I was hoping since it was a fine homebuilding video I could use it for my students...no safety gear at all. I cant show that to my students...safety first!
@johnbesharian9965
@johnbesharian9965 2 жыл бұрын
LOL! "Honey, we're going to have to take out a second mortgage because I need to buy some video gear so I can make video's for my students."
@anncluckey5401
@anncluckey5401 7 жыл бұрын
I have a mini grinder,but the wheel turns up and away from me..whats up with that?
@coollee8198
@coollee8198 7 жыл бұрын
you installed it with wrong way , or the wheel quality is not ok .
@anncluckey5401
@anncluckey5401 7 жыл бұрын
牛恒振 I baught it the way it is. I want to fix the issue.
@DaStig
@DaStig 6 жыл бұрын
Ann Cluckey . some people prefer it that way. Ive known people invert the whole rig just to have a grinder that spins upward. It depends on what you need it for. People make jigs for this and that.
@toecutter9752
@toecutter9752 2 жыл бұрын
Senator Armstrong seems to have found a more peaceful occupation.
@rogeragustin9470
@rogeragustin9470 26 күн бұрын
Reasons why people don't like to use bench grinder
@robohippy
@robohippy 4 жыл бұрын
well, as a turner, this video was obsolete before it was made. CBN grinding wheels are better in every single way you can look at them. I got rid of my Veritas grinder platform 10 years ago.
@adrienrenaux6211
@adrienrenaux6211 3 жыл бұрын
What a shame, someone made a video on the internet not taylored just for you. How dare they
@robohippy
@robohippy 3 жыл бұрын
@@adrienrenaux6211 Don't know what your level of experience is, but as I said, this is obsolete.
@johnbesharian9965
@johnbesharian9965 2 жыл бұрын
@@robohippy, You must have had that operation one of my best friends mentioned when he ran into a vocalist I used to play guitar for before she became famous: "She must've had her nose put on upside down because when I said 'Hi' she just tilted her head back and kind of sniffed as she walked away". Look, Mr. High & Mighty, not everyone is able to afford $200.00 to $300.00 apiece for CBN wheels. Got it? We do the best we can with what we can afford. Now, go back to your cloistered guild and stay there.
@robohippy
@robohippy 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnbesharian9965 Well John, first question is how old are you? How long have you been turning, if you turn at all....? How much woodworking experience do you have? As for this video, I will stand by my comments. This was done by Fine Woodworking. Part of what they do is keep their subscribers informed on the latest and greatest of tools that are available. One of these advancements are the CBN grinding wheels. They range in the $160 or so to $200 range, but could be more considering that metal prices have gone way up in the last year. They are superior to any other wheel out there, in terms of safety, and in performance. You pay more, but you get a whole lot more. Sure, not every one can afford them, but once you get one, you will never go back to the standard grinding wheels, kind of like having a variable speed lathe rather than changing belts. I was stating a fact. You are trying to be all 'High and Mighty'. I have been turning for over 25 years, and did production bowl turning for most of that time. I demonstrate, and instruct. Perhaps you can learn from me....
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