Finn Mertens VS Ben Tennyson Is COMPLICATED | Ben 10 VS Adventure Time

[@djt08031996]

Finn is certainly more powerful than I thought, but he doesn't have anywhere near the variety in abilities to match Ben

[@Kimajoruc.v]

Remember when finn had countless equipment with busted abilities

[@arthurcosta1657]

True

[@FirstName_LqstName]

We gotta stop scaling Ben in fights.. It's never fair for his opponents

[@WhatIfStoryteller]

Fr W

[@yeikelamores6085]

It's true, either he is completely trampled or he tramples

[@dsm2417]

bro didnt u just see both scale about the same at high ball

[@WhatIfStoryteller]

@@dsm2417 no Ben 10 is in Outerversal levels while finn caps at High Hyper so its not a debate 🤷‍♂ 🤷‍♂

[@VCXEditor]

​@@WhatIfStorytellerGive Feats for outerversal scaling rn

[@jahmoymignott4081]

Allies X is Ben most powerful only because the Creator of Alien X died Before Showing the Alien that's Stronger than Alien X and Ben wins

[@chaosprog2341]

Doesn't really mean much when other writers could have just retconed out.

[@XpathTheChojiro]

Didn't he get retconed and get folded by legos?

[@supreme_king_ultima5370]

Different continuity genius​@@XpathTheChojiro

[@dominocut2963]

@@XpathTheChojiro The Reboot continuity isn't canon to the classic continuity. ALL of the bens that appeared there are different from the originals (UA Ben wearing his ultimatrix backwards should already be a sign)

[@DuelshortsYT]

Ben destroys him ngl. Alien x's species can change the shows animation and have done it multiple times as shown in that episode when ben went to alien court in Omniverse. I always thought finn bring that strong without using superpowers was so crazy. But yea ben also has clockwork who can stop time and bens strongest villian was a chronosepian

[@dominocut2963]

Wouldn't Dagon be stronger than Maltruant tho..?

[@FootballBars756]

For Alien X: scaling Alien X using the CSAP Tiering System A small part of Alien X's DNA was able to cut through the contumelia's barrier who were 5d beings and they stated that the barrier was extradimensional and was what they used to protect them from the annihalarrg and alien X cut through this barrier and seeing as they needed the barrier to shield themselves this means that the barrier had to be also 5D or above 5D because the annihalarrg has to be above 5D since it is able to harm them so I would put the annihalarrg at 6D and the barrier at 6D and from this alien x is already One tier above sonic as alien x from this scales to 1-C or Complex Multiversal Level and also Instead of using this I can also just use the fact the barrier was extradimensional which on CSAP is alrieady 1-C even without my explanation. Next the Alien X recreates the universe feat is actually much greater than people think as the universe stated by Joe kelly is made up of multi-verses and ben 10 universes are confirmed as infinite and in the show it is stated several times that the multiverses in ben 10 are infinite (meaning it contains infinite universes) plus the other dimensions in ben 10 like null void, ledgerdomain, upchucks stomach dimension, etc are part of the main universe and they are all also infinite so this means that a ben 10 universe already scales to multiversal. We can go even further in scaling the universe as in ben 10 alien force when paradox is retelling his backstory he said he had acquired knowledge on all the secrets in the universe and in the clip it showed aleph null so this means the universe has aleph null and a single universe in ben 10 is high hyperversal in the least and the universe is atleast aleph null sized which on CSAP scales Alien X to High Hyperversal Level or 1-B. Now Alien X can also changed the artstyle and cgi of the show which equates to r>f transcendence but to lowball him i will give him plot manipulation. In a cannon ben 10 comic called Ghost ship (comics are cannon confirmed by Duncan Rouleau) Ben 10 and Rook meet beings from incalculable dimensions this means that they are not from an infinite dimension no they are from incalculable dimensions meaning they come from a dimension so high it can't be calculated using infinity or finite numbers and this means these being at the very least are 1-B or High Hyperversal level and Alien X scales beyond these beings making Alien X 1-A or Outerversal level being beyond dimensionality and also Alien X comes from the forge of creation a place beyond and outside of space, time and everything and so Alien X by these two feats is beyond dimensionality and there are more than 27 dimensions in ben 10 the naljians said there are only 26 that matter but this doesn't mean that there are only 26 there are more and maybe it doesn't matter to them because they can't view them or they know they could never reach or ascend past the 26th or 27th dimension. Alien X during his recreation of the universe also recreated the chrono navigator, the chronosapien time bomb and the annihalarrg and the chronosapien time bomb and the chrono navigator were stated to be able to destroy everything and with the verse at this high of a cosmology they would scale to outerversal level but alien X effortlessly recreated them meaning he is beyond outerversal levels objects in the same way these outerversal level ojects transcended all the lower tiers meaning he is high outerversal level and this is proven again when he easily defeated the galactic gladiator, a being who should also be at outerversal level or high outerversal level. There are more things I can use to scale Alien but for now ALIEN X SCALES TO HIGH OUTERVERSAL LEVEL OR 1-A.

[@XpathTheChojiro]

Great argument but. Didn't he get folded by legos?

[@supreme_king_ultima5370]

​@@XpathTheChojirodifferent continuity.

[@supreme_king_ultima5370]

And just to be clear that same Incalculable amounts of dimension = Aleph-Null. Math ain't that hard.

[@gadlygamer]

alien x is not fricking high outerversal ben 10's verse is high 1-B to low 1-A at the highest cuz of it being a type 3 multiverse there is 0 feats of affecting concepts, changing the artstyle of a show does not equal fictional transcendence its just plot manipulation stop wanking ben

[@WaneYT]

Ngl bro the yappin is insane

[@FootballBars756]

Ben 10 also has hilbert space and quantum space-time further proving infinite dimensional and there are beings from incalculable dimensions in ben 10 from the comics which are cannon and incalculable = uncountable infinite > infinite = countably infinite

[@Phantom-Shadow567]

The guy didn't bring that up

[@Vindicatoranimz_shorts]

@@FootballBars756 bro that's clearly hyperversal at best

[@FootballBars756]

Something else I just noticed in ghost ship where it shows the incalculable dimension beings they bear the sign Ω which is an uncountable ordinal further solidifying the fact that they are from immeasurable/incalculable/uncountable dimensions

[@gadlygamer]

you need to prove those dimensions are spatial

[@Vindicatoranimz_shorts]

@@gadlygamer that's hyperversal at best

[@FootballBars756]

Celestialsapiens are avatars of the authors of ben 10 confirmed by Duncan Rouleau putting them above the ben 10 omniverse and It further adds the the feat of celestialsapiens changing the Artstyle and CGI of the show which should be R>F Transcendence ain't no way Finn beating Alien X. Alien X is High Outerversal - Outerversal levels above High Outerversal or even boundless. Alien X fodders Finn 💀 💀

[@blumusprime2900]

Fax

[@supreme_king_ultima5370]

Bro is lying outta his ahh

[@GmrGod10000]

@@supreme_king_ultima5370 he literally fax wdym 😭

[@lildomo2119]

@@supreme_king_ultima5370I mean I don’t know if everything he said true ima do research but I can definitely say celestialsapiens (alien x species) is responsible for the art style change of the classic series-omniverse

[@supreme_king_ultima5370]

@@lildomo2119 that's true but not what i'm referring to.. Even with that that still wont put you at Outer lol.

[@FootballBars756]

ben 10 also has metaphysics as paradox states ben has an innate sense of transtemporal metaphysics and metaphysics easily scales a verse to outerversal further buffing and solidifying ben's High Outerversal level

[@gadlygamer]

hes not high outerversal ben 10's verse is just a type 3 multiverse with celestial sapiens being low outer Finn is High outerversal to extraversal cuz of the catalyst comet which transcends the cosmology the cosmic imagination is a conceptual existence. reality is mental in nature

[@zayzillions7319]

@@gadlygamerBens verse type 4 easily.

[@gadlygamer]

@zayzillions7319 its not Theres no MUH, CUH or EMR Its just a type 3 multiverse

[@zayzillions7319]

@@gadlygamer it is and I’m not explaining it to you.

[@WhatIfStoryteller]

@@gadlygamer Type 3 is neede to prove type 4 and ben 10 has this and also ben 10 has type 4 multiverse as there are different universes with different laws of physics and also this official quote for math universe "even the most sophisticated computer simulation is just yet another special case of a mathematical universe" o this proves the computer simulation is a math universe and also meaning of computer simulation 'Computer simulation is the process of mathematical modelling, performed on a computer, which is designed to predict the behaviour of, or the outcome of, a real-world or physical system.' notice mathematical modelling. CUH states that the mathematical structure that is our external physical reality is defined by computable functions; simply put computer theories imply a mathematical universe. Thus type 3 multiverse with dfferent laws of physics and math universe (which is proven to exist twice in the show i.e computer simulation) proves ben 10 has type 4 multiverse

[@user-StarMaster]

is this a joke? its NOT complicated. Ben has stopped multiversal destruction without alien X. CLOCKWORK. undid a bomb that erased INFINITY. I love adventure time but finn has NO CHANCE.

[@axillaryclinical]

That wasn’t even original Ben

[@user-StarMaster]

@@axillaryclinical your right. it was a completely inexperienced ben who only had the omnitrix for a few hours... Finn is still doomed.

[@axillaryclinical]

@@user-StarMaster you mean the watch that was completely upgraded to suit how the owner is but also clockwork just counters it

[@sanderdevil8838]

We definitely need more cartoon scaling videos

[@IanWomack-fp6ee]

Fr

[@Miss_Heed_Lover]

Yup

[@FootballBars756]

Alien X > Finn ez

[@axillaryclinical]

What do I see with my little eye meat riding

[@FootballBars756]

Ben 10 also has type 4 multiverse and with that I could scale him higher

[@gadlygamer]

he does not have a type 4 multiverse. its a type 3 ben 10 does not have cardinals

[@jhsilver5208]

​@@gadlygamerdo you not prove

[@franciscoOrellana29]

6:00 This is not canon anymore tho, thanks to Fionna and Cake

[@monke1419]

I was gonna say that

[@sammysamiam5219]

Samurai Jack vs Aang the avatar

[@DHworldwide185]

Finn literally one shot most of Ben's aliens except his high tiers. The problems Finn encounters is the fail safe and the "big three" (Alien X, Way Big, and Atomix).

[@NightlightTales-r4i]

If a new series for ben 10 comes out following the ben 10 prime continuity they might finally touch on the omniverse that was stated by albedo in omniverse, can't wait 😄

[@WhatIfStoryteller]

Personally I prefer CSAP but I thought It'd be better if I scaled Alien X to High Outer on both sites so 🤷‍♂

[@Kimajoruc.v]

alien x upscale the ben 10 verse-high complex multiverse to hyperverse, lich upscale the adventure time verse finn is relative to him-high outerverse to boundless.

[@Kimajoruc.v]

finn with our without all of his equipment bodies ben

[@WhatIfStoryteller]

A single universe in Ben 10 has infinite dimensions, proving with MWI and Ghostship (canon) that a universe in Ben 10 is high hyperversal. It’s further proven to be high hyper with aleph null existing in the universe. Then, Ben 10 universes have other dimensions in them like null-void, ledgerdomain, and computer simulation universes. So, this is irrelevant as a universe is already high hyper. But this would be complex multiversal for one universe (fodder for true scale) due to null-void and ledgerdomain, with null-void being extradimensional, which on tiering is complex multiversal. But a universe in Ben 10 is actually high hyper. WRONG! A universe in Ben 10 also has metaphysics, and metaphysics scales to 1-A or outerversal level. Meaning, a universe in Ben 10 is Outerversal. Then, Joe Kelly says that a universe in Ben 10 is made up of multiverses which contain universes, and the Ben 10 multiverse is a type 4 multiverse. So, a universe in Ben 10 has type 4 multiverses in them, and a multiverse in Ben 10 has infinite universes. So, these multiverses have infinite universes. I already scaled a single Ben 10 universe, and by the logic of Ben 10 universes, these universes should also have their own multiverses, and the cycle repeats indefinitely. So, a single universe in Ben 10 should be high outer due to having infinite multiverses in it which are type 4 and have MWI and inaccessible dimensions in a single universe. Thus, the main universe that holds all this should be inaccessible layers beyond these universes and multiverses. But just to lowball it, I’ll put it at Outerversal level. This means that a single universe in Ben 10>>>>>>>>>>>Comp Adventure Time. So, Alien X neg diffs Finn into nonexistence as Alien X recreated this universe and is beyond all this as he exists in a metaphysical plane called the forge of creation outside all of time, space and dimensions and in multiple ben 10 scans it is stated that Celestialsapiens had transcended our very plane of existence. The Celestialsapiens have R>F transcendence over their entire verse, meaning Ben 10’s Omniverse, as the omniverse exists in Ben 10 due to Ultimate Albedo’s statements. We know that the omniverse > multiverse (main one that contains all timelines and universes with dimensions) and timestream. Since Joe Kelly confirmed that Celestialsapiens can control the entire Ben 10 franchise and he even stated that if they did that, "he’d be without a job", and Duncan Rouleau also confirmed that Celestialsapiens are avatars of the authors, so they are beyond the Ben 10 verse (R>F transcendence). Plus, the changing of the art style and CGI of the verse and the fact that they are beyond Paradox, who keeps referring to the verse or timelines as a story with his “there are many ways to tell a story” statements. So, Celestialsapiens R>F transcend a verse with this high of a cosmology. So, they should be infinite or outerversal layers into high outerversal or boundless. ALIEN X IS INFINITE OR OUTERVERSAL LAYERS INTO HIGH OUTERVERSAL OR BOUNDLESS/EXTRAVERSAL.

[@merc7652]

What is the name of the background soundtrack

[@WhatIfStoryteller]

In AF it is confirmed that Metaphysics exists in the verse with "Young Ben has an innate sense of transtemporal metaphysics" metaphysics easily scales to 1-A and if u say it doesn't have context they had just travelled to a possible future and they used the word for this as transtemporal metaphysics so its dealing with time and time and space are inseperable due to Einsteins theory of relativity so in this context it deals with the concept of space-time and this means a single ben 10 universe scales to 1-A and a single universe in ben 10 has incalculable dimensions, Quantum Mechanics and set theory. Just wanted to point that out. but anyways a single universe in ben 10 scales to 1-A and now Duncan Rouleau was asked whether Celestialsapiens were avatars of the authors and he confirmed this and Joe Kelly further confirms this by saying that Cp's could change the entire franchise and plot of ben 10 and he confirmed this by saying that if they did they'd put him out of a job so Cp's R>F Transcend the verse and on csap the requirement for High 1>A is being above an Outerversal being or Structure to the same extent the Outerversal being is beyond the rest of the tiers and R>F Transcending the verse n which a single ben 10 universe scales to Outer meets this requirement and thereby Alien X is High Outer on CSAP.

[@Alex_fr18]

csap allows anyone to make a scaling page the official scaling for him is low complex multiversal character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/Alien_X_(Canon,_Classic)/Midtop

[@WhatIfStoryteller]

@@Alex_fr18 Lmao that is not official like bro ur using midtop one of the greatest ben 10 lowballers on Csap lol

[@WhatIfStoryteller]

@@Alex_fr18 Retarded ahh page its so obvious it doesn't even come from Csap themselves like u see Midtop there and I'm pretty sure I saw him classify himself as one of the ben 10 lowballers on a page in Csap

[@Alex_fr18]

@@WhatIfStoryteller no? Did you even read it 😭🙏🏻 It says "Ben 10 canon official" Also, csap also has uni+ gojo character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/Satoru_Gojo_(Canon)/Rosa-1312 And high outer yoriichi character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/Yoriichi_Tsugikuni_(Canon)/QuakeYF By your logic, these two are also true 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@WhatIfStoryteller]

@@Alex_fr18 exactly ur point u contradicted urself since anyone can make a scaling page if u would check some more instead of just picking what j like or see u would know that there are other better scales for gojo

[@Vindicatoranimz_shorts]

There are many fallacies in your scaling bro

[@NightlightTales-r4i]

metaphysics existing in a single ben 10 universe already scales to 1-A and there are way more outer feats for alien X nowadays. The whatifstoryteller has already scaled CP's to High Outer in the least so ben wins.

[@yeikelamores6085]

High outerversal is a massive Wank

[@FootballBars756]

Alien X is omipresent from existing outside of time, space, dimensions and the multiverse and So Alien X should easily have immeasurable speed or irrelevant speed and again Alien X is omnipresent and Also the omnitrix also has immeasurable speed reaction time and speed as the annihalarrg had alreasy hit bit but it transformed ben to stop it so the omnitrix made ben "avoid an attack that already hit" or even if u don't use this the annihallarrg created space and time and it should easily be 6D as i've explained before but it creating space and time means its above it and that means that it should have in the least immeasurable speed and the omnitrix reacting to this is also immeasurable speed and Annihalarrg should also be outerversal easily as it created time and space and it was proven in that white nothingness where the contumelia's ship was; it was a timeless void and it is proven when maltruant can't use his powers as time and space didn't exist there and so the annihalarrg creating space and time proves that it is beyond the concept of space and time making the annihalarrg easily Outerversal lol.

[@archflamingo9156]

ben takes it cuz or feed back and alien x finn best scaling from the adventure time show is from the 4d sword and Lich

[@StrawHatCloud4116]

Damn Finn is badass

[@user-pf5uc4ms9g]

But can Finn beat the regular show bird guy

[@Vontact]

yeah duhh

[@mickeelsolomon7743]

he easily solos regular show

[@mahmoudanas6220]

Bro if ben transformes to waterhazerd it is over 😂😂😂

[@lildomo2119]

This is not complicated Ben wins this with low diff…

[@sarawitrodchompu3576]

thumbnail art is by Darent Z

[@Alex_fr18]

the characters are, yes the thumbnail is made by me lmao

[@margaretnjatha4764]

can you do novel kars vs gilgamesh

[@kaliyuga14surfer88]

Ben 10 cosmology is so high man... so Adventure Time fans tell le about your cosmology, I know it's good stuff but not Multiverse Type 3 right?

[@Kimajoruc.v]

the verse is beyond boundless, the author said the books are canon the book explains the verse

[@kaliyuga14surfer88]

@@Kimajoruc.v is that so? can you explain it to me, that if you don't mind of course.

[@franciscoOrellana29]

​@@Kimajoruc.vNot all of them, because there are some comics that contradict the series.

[@J_S_M1]

Finna at a highball is universal, also the comics aren’t canon

[@SansINess53]

I think it all depends on which ben you use. If it's omniverse, finn is ducked. If it's alien force/ultimate alien, finn is ducked. If it's original series, ben is ducked.

[@DuelshortsYT]

Doesn't xlr8 solo finn isn't he too fast I haven't watched the vid yet

[@SansINess53]

@@DuelshortsYT yeah xlr8 sure is fast but he is only at the speed of sound from scaling.

[@DuelshortsYT]

@@SansINess53 yea ik but can finn counter that? Ik he got good durability it'd be a weird fight

[@SansINess53]

@@DuelshortsYT yes finn has got insane durability, to the point he would be universal.

[@Brabbs]

​@@SansINess53 what feats?

[@N1jjbafan]

The goat posts again first day of asking to do mha verses hunterxhunter hunterxhunter btw how to join discord? I have screenshots of hunterxhunter scaling

[@FootballBars756]

U don't know power scaling as Alien X is High Outerversal

[@Alex_fr18]

@@FootballBars756 I bet you don't even know what are the requirements to get to high outer 🙏🏻😭

[@WhatIfStoryteller]

@@Alex_fr18 Btw I'm FootballBars alt acc and Yes, I do know the requirements for High Outer.

[@WhatIfStoryteller]

@@Alex_fr18 On Csap its R>F Transcending a 1-A structure and on Vsbw its being above an Inf framework of R>F Transcendence while on Outerversal level

[@WhatIfStoryteller]

@@Alex_fr18 In Alien Force it is confirmed that Metaphysics exists in the verse with "Young Ben has an innate sense of transtemporal metaphysics" metaphysics easily scales to 1-A and if u say it doesn't have context they had just travelled to a possible future and they used the word for this as transtemporal metaphysics so its dealing with time and time and space are inseperable due to Einsteins theory of relativity so in this context it deals with the concept of space-time and this means a single ben 10 universe scales to 1-A and a single universe in ben 10 has incalculable dimensions, Quantum Mechanics and set theory. Just wanted to point that out. but anyways a single universe in ben 10 scales to 1-A and now Duncan Rouleau was also asked whether Celestialsapiens were avatars of the authors and he confirmed this and Joe Kelly further confirms this by saying that Cp's could change the entire franchise and plot of ben 10 and he confirmed this by saying that if they did they'd put him out of a job so Cp's R>F Transcend the verse and on csap the requirement for High 1>A is being above an Outerversal being or Structure to the same extent the Outerversal being is beyond the rest of the tiers and R>F Transcending the verse in which a single ben 10 universe scales to Outer meets this requirement and thereby Alien X is High Outer on CSAP.

[@WhatIfStoryteller]

@@Alex_fr18 Alien X also scales to High Outer on VSBW Reason: Multiverse in ben 10 is confirmed inf and there are also inf universes in ben 10. a Timeline = Multiverse in ben 10 and there are inf Timelines. so there are infinite multiverses in ben 10 and the prime universe has infinite timelines and Joe kelly also stated that universes in ben 10 have multiverses and these multiverses have universes in them. and from what we know these multiverses are infinite with infinite universes/timelines and since a single universe in ben 10 has incalculable dimensions, MWI and metaphysics a single universe is 1-A from the logic of ben 10 a universe has within it multiverses and these multiverses are infinite since multiverses in ben 10 are infinite. there are an infinite amount of multiverses in ben 10 due to the branching off of timelines and these timelines go on to form new multiverses but these timelines still branch of forming another timeline/multiverse and the cycle repeats infinitely. ben 10 has type 4 multiverse due to different laws of physics and Computer simulation ( cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279097364820267079/1279102947690676224/Screenshot_2024-08-22_152602.png?ex=66d48a73&is=66d338f3&hm=64f2d6a0b203c8f37622ed9cde6908adf6a59f7935be8abe6813125f0ce39d1f& , cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279097364820267079/1279102948852633733/Screenshot_2024-08-22_152951.png?ex=66d48a73&is=66d338f3&hm=2cf128818e2bf448f788a01e0329bfe98cb4e9a349c5d21d3f0a193210456452& , cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279097364820267079/1279102948399513622/Screenshot_2024-08-22_152643.png?ex=66d48a73&is=66d338f3&hm=47b66acd5101885736afd51a6ed7ddca6be2bba4af39b91332607518fe1f8ffb& , cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279097364820267079/1279102949091577887/Screenshot_2024-08-22_153007.png?ex=66d48a73&is=66d338f3&hm=21af8db501215ec8eb50c88594f0f111b20ff99f2f636f5ad30a641c8bda91bf& , cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279097364820267079/1279102949670522971/Screenshot_2024-08-22_152738.png?ex=66d48a73&is=66d338f3&hm=2c974fa19b7b0dd23d507a9856f5cd630efc6c04d3e0ad0147ab15cb7d7180bf& , cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279097364820267079/1279102949989158932/Screenshot_2024-08-22_152827.png?ex=66d48a73&is=66d338f3&hm=b791cb904cba36d6025e39dccc42ac2b364fe0d6d94d1a7c4afdbd351fe26896& , cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279097364820267079/1279102950404390912/Screenshot_2024-08-22_152921.png?ex=66d48a73&is=66d338f3&hm=605ca3770afd9ca53fad5743bbf5df3248ffa66b9f49d1f4b89580c1b6d658e1& ) So this means that these multiverses are type 4 and so a single ben 10 universe has an infinite number of type 4 multiverses within it; but these multiverses have infinite universes within them since a multiverse in ben 10 has infinite universes and as i've scaled universes in ben 10 earlier a single universe has metaphysics, incalculable dimensions and extradimensional realms like null-void etc so a single universe in ben 10 scales to 1-A and since these type 4 multiverses contained in the main universe are beyond and hold an infinite amount of these 1-A universes and are beyond the incalculable dimensional layers that these universes contain they should scale to High Outer. Reason being that in ben 10 beings from higher dimensions R>F transcend the dimension below it seeing it as fiction which was confirmed by Joe Kelly as he said Multi-Dimensional beings views all space-time as a storybook and this means that beings from Higher dimensions view beings in lower dimensions and all space-time in those lower dimensional planes as fiction. meaning of multidimensional "of or involving several dimensions" meaning of several "more than two but not many" so this means that beings from higher dimensions see the dimensions below it and space-time in those dimensions as a storybook meaning R>F Transcendance since higher dimensions see the dimensions lower than them as fiction so R>F Transcendance and there are incalculable dimensions in ben 10 with a simple meaning being that there are an uncountable infinite amount of Dimensional layers/Dimensions in a single ben 10 universe and each Dimension transcends all the dimesnions below it and views them as fiction so there is an inf hierarchy/framework of R>F Transcendances in a single ben 10 universe and since R>F transcending something at Outerversal(on vsbw) is 1+ layer above it this means a single universe that are contained in these type 4 multiverses scale to immeasurable layers into Outerversal. then the type 4 multiverses containing these universes would be High Outer since they contain an inf amount of these universes with this framework and are thereby beyond them as u have to be beyond something u contain so these multiverses are High Outer from being above an inf amount of universes with each universe having an incalculable hierarchy of R>F Transcendance and these type 4 multiverses are beyond them so this means these multiverses in the universe are High Outer. since the multiverses in a single ben 10 universe has been scaled to High Outer; the universe being above an infinite number of these High Outer Multiverses would scale one layer into High Outerversal. so I've scaled a single universe in ben 10 to 1 layer into High Outer ben 10 universes should actually scale to Immeasurable layers into High Outer My reason: Since Universes contain High 1-A multiverses they should be 1 layer above them since U can't be below something u hold so they should be 1 layer into High Outer but the 1 layer into High 1-A should be for the normal plane of existence which is bens plane since there are still Incalculable Dimensional layers/Dimensions in the main universe and so from this in the main universe the 3rd Dimensional plane or 3D should be 1 layer into High Outerversal due to transcending the High 1-A Multiverses and the 4th dimensional plane or 4d should scale to 2 layers into High Outer and it continues infinitely with the 5th D layer being 3 layers into High Outer and so as a whole with there being Incalculable Dimensions/Dimensional layers the Main Universe should be inf layers into High Outer - Immeasurable layers into High Outer and yes each Dimensional layer is Qualitatively superior to the last confirmed by Joe Kelly. If U don't understand what he means he is saying that Higher Dimensions view all of space-time in lower Dimensions as a storybook thereby they view them as fiction so they R>F Transcend the Lower Dimensions Also this entire R>F Transcendance framework gets Alien X to Immeasurable layers into High Outer now I've scaled the universes to Inf layers into High Outer and the multiverse holding an Inf amount of them should be scaled to 1 layer beyond Immeasurable layers into High Outer but it should be Immeasurable layers into High Outer atleast and remember these mutliverses are also still type 4 multiverses The Timestream Realm/Hypertimeline should be another layer above this due to Holding an Inf amount of these Multiverses and all so it should be 1 layer beyond the inf timelines/multiverses so Timestream scales to 2 layers beyond Immeasurable layers into High Outerversal. Space beyond being above the Timestream should be 3 layers beyond Immeasurable layers into High 1-A The Main Multiverse should be 4 layers beyond Immeasurable layers into High 1-A The Forge Of creation is beyond concepts of time and Space since its metaphysical supported by Joe Kelly this means the Forge of creation is a metaphysical realm beyond the concepts of space and time and it adds up when you realize the Forge's Gimmick is being beyond Time and Space and it being Metaphysical supports this so the Forge of Creation is beyond the concept of Space-time It is where the greatest power in the verse lies. Celestialsapiens reside here and they are also beyond the concepts of space-time and are the most powerful beings in the verse Alien X's feat of recreating the universe would already put him at Immeasurable layers into High Outer and Cp's have also been stated to be able to destroy the main multiverse by Duncan Rouleau and even Joe Kelly this would put Alien X at 5 layers beyond Immeasurable layers into High 1-A Celestialsapiens R>F Transcend their entire verse including the Omniverse which has been confirmed to exist by Ultimate Albedo and the Omniverse should be atleast 5 layers beyond Immeasurable layers into High Outer through containing and being above the Main multiverse since Celestialsapiens R>F Transcend their verse they would scale to 6 layers beyond Immeasurable layers into High Outerversal proof of Cp's R>F Transcending the ben 10 Franchise This statement from Joe Kelly that if the Cp's change the entirety of the Ben 10 Franchise with its plot he'd be without a job is already proof of Celestialsapiens R>F Transcending the Verse and it is further proven By Duncan as when he was asked if each member of the the staff team cannonically exist in verse as a Celestialsapien He said a like means yes and he liked. He usually does this to avoid writing long texts so CP's are avatars of the author and thereby the R>F Transcend the verse. so Celestialsapiens R>F Transcend their verse and its further proven by them changing the artstyle and cgi of the show and by them being above Paradox who could also have R>F Transcendance over the verse due to his many ways to tell a story statements. ALL IN ALL ALIEN X SCALES TO IMMEASURABLE LAYERS INTO HIGH OUTER

[@jhsilver5208]

Who win this video?

[@Alex_fr18]

@@jhsilver5208 depends on how you scale the characters Hence why it's "complicated"

[@justinwhite1336]

Ben 10 verse is in show stated above multiversal, it literally stated omniversal

[@Vindicatoranimz_shorts]

@@justinwhite1336complex multiversal

[@justinwhite1336]

@@Vindicatoranimz_shorts It is said by a character in the show, that it is beyond multiversal and is literally said to be omniversal. would you like a link?

[@Vindicatoranimz_shorts]

@@justinwhite1336 that's hyperversal

[@NanojiTH]

me before : why would they put finn THE HUMAN aginst multiverse breaking alien me after : yo finn wtf chill bro

[@vegito_st1]

So, Ben is hyperbersal to infinite dimensional with immeasurable speed. While you scaled goku to outerversal to layers into outerversal with irrelevant speed. So goku scales above ben 10. End of discussion

[@WhatIfStoryteller]

brainrot ahh Comment Ben scales to High Outer and if u think Alien X caps at High Hyper u'd have to cap Goku too and in that case he doesn't get past low multiverse level.

[@vegito_st1]

@@WhatIfStoryteller bro how old are you? Besides, I have an argument, I have scans and feats. you have non. Ben is high hyperversal.

[@WhatIfStoryteller]

@@vegito_st1 are u serious rn goofy ahh

[@WhatIfStoryteller]

@@vegito_st1 dumb shit

[@WhatIfStoryteller]

@@vegito_st1 Alien X also scales to High Outer on VSBW Reason: Multiverse in ben 10 is confirmed inf and there are also inf universes in ben 10. a Timeline = Multiverse in ben 10 and there are inf Timelines. so there are infinite multiverses in ben 10 and the prime universe has infinite timelines and Joe kelly also stated that universes in ben 10 have multiverses and these multiverses have universes in them. and from what we know these multiverses are infinite with infinite universes/timelines and since a single universe in ben 10 has incalculable dimensions, MWI and metaphysics a single universe is 1-A from the logic of ben 10 a universe has within it multiverses and these multiverses are infinite since multiverses in ben 10 are infinite. there are an infinite amount of multiverses in ben 10 due to the branching off of timelines and these timelines go on to form new multiverses but these timelines still branch of forming another timeline/multiverse and the cycle repeats infinitely. ben 10 has type 4 multiverse due to different laws of physics and Computer simulation ( cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279097364820267079/1279102947690676224/Screenshot_2024-08-22_152602.png?ex=66d48a73&is=66d338f3&hm=64f2d6a0b203c8f37622ed9cde6908adf6a59f7935be8abe6813125f0ce39d1f& , cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279097364820267079/1279102948852633733/Screenshot_2024-08-22_152951.png?ex=66d48a73&is=66d338f3&hm=2cf128818e2bf448f788a01e0329bfe98cb4e9a349c5d21d3f0a193210456452& , cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279097364820267079/1279102948399513622/Screenshot_2024-08-22_152643.png?ex=66d48a73&is=66d338f3&hm=47b66acd5101885736afd51a6ed7ddca6be2bba4af39b91332607518fe1f8ffb& , cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279097364820267079/1279102949091577887/Screenshot_2024-08-22_153007.png?ex=66d48a73&is=66d338f3&hm=21af8db501215ec8eb50c88594f0f111b20ff99f2f636f5ad30a641c8bda91bf& , cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279097364820267079/1279102949670522971/Screenshot_2024-08-22_152738.png?ex=66d48a73&is=66d338f3&hm=2c974fa19b7b0dd23d507a9856f5cd630efc6c04d3e0ad0147ab15cb7d7180bf& , cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279097364820267079/1279102949989158932/Screenshot_2024-08-22_152827.png?ex=66d48a73&is=66d338f3&hm=b791cb904cba36d6025e39dccc42ac2b364fe0d6d94d1a7c4afdbd351fe26896& , cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279097364820267079/1279102950404390912/Screenshot_2024-08-22_152921.png?ex=66d48a73&is=66d338f3&hm=605ca3770afd9ca53fad5743bbf5df3248ffa66b9f49d1f4b89580c1b6d658e1& ) So this means that these multiverses are type 4 and so a single ben 10 universe has an infinite number of type 4 multiverses within it; but these multiverses have infinite universes within them since a multiverse in ben 10 has infinite universes and as i've scaled universes in ben 10 earlier a single universe has metaphysics, incalculable dimensions and extradimensional realms like null-void etc so a single universe in ben 10 scales to 1-A and since these type 4 multiverses contained in the main universe are beyond and hold an infinite amount of these 1-A universes and are beyond the incalculable dimensional layers that these universes contain they should scale to High Outer. Reason being that in ben 10 beings from higher dimensions R>F transcend the dimension below it seeing it as fiction which was confirmed by Joe Kelly as he said Multi-Dimensional beings views all space-time as a storybook and this means that beings from Higher dimensions view beings in lower dimensions and all space-time in those lower dimensional planes as fiction. meaning of multidimensional "of or involving several dimensions" meaning of several "more than two but not many" so this means that beings from higher dimensions see the dimensions below it and space-time in those dimensions as a storybook meaning R>F Transcendance since higher dimensions see the dimensions lower than them as fiction so R>F Transcendance and there are incalculable dimensions in ben 10 with a simple meaning being that there are an uncountable infinite amount of Dimensional layers/Dimensions in a single ben 10 universe and each Dimension transcends all the dimesnions below it and views them as fiction so there is an inf hierarchy/framework of R>F Transcendances in a single ben 10 universe and since R>F transcending something at Outerversal(on vsbw) is 1+ layer above it this means a single universe that are contained in these type 4 multiverses scale to immeasurable layers into Outerversal. then the type 4 multiverses containing these universes would be High Outer since they contain an inf amount of these universes with this framework and are thereby beyond them as u have to be beyond something u contain so these multiverses are High Outer from being above an inf amount of universes with each universe having an incalculable hierarchy of R>F Transcendance and these type 4 multiverses are beyond them so this means these multiverses in the universe are High Outer. since the multiverses in a single ben 10 universe has been scaled to High Outer; the universe being above an infinite number of these High Outer Multiverses would scale one layer into High Outerversal. so I've scaled a single universe in ben 10 to 1 layer into High Outer ben 10 universes should actually scale to Immeasurable layers into High Outer My reason: Since Universes contain High 1-A multiverses they should be 1 layer above them since U can't be below something u hold so they should be 1 layer into High Outer but the 1 layer into High 1-A should be for the normal plane of existence which is bens plane since there are still Incalculable Dimensional layers/Dimensions in the main universe and so from this in the main universe the 3rd Dimensional plane or 3D should be 1 layer into High Outerversal due to transcending the High 1-A Multiverses and the 4th dimensional plane or 4d should scale to 2 layers into High Outer and it continues infinitely with the 5th D layer being 3 layers into High Outer and so as a whole with there being Incalculable Dimensions/Dimensional layers the Main Universe should be inf layers into High Outer - Immeasurable layers into High Outer and yes each Dimensional layer is Qualitatively superior to the last confirmed by Joe Kelly. If U don't understand what he means he is saying that Higher Dimensions view all of space-time in lower Dimensions as a storybook thereby they view them as fiction so they R>F Transcend the Lower Dimensions Also this entire R>F Transcendance framework gets Alien X to Immeasurable layers into High Outer now I've scaled the universes to Inf layers into High Outer and the multiverse holding an Inf amount of them should be scaled to 1 layer beyond Immeasurable layers into High Outer but it should be Immeasurable layers into High Outer atleast and remember these mutliverses are also still type 4 multiverses The Timestream Realm/Hypertimeline should be another layer above this due to Holding an Inf amount of these Multiverses and all so it should be 1 layer beyond the inf timelines/multiverses so Timestream scales to 2 layers beyond Immeasurable layers into High Outerversal. Space beyond being above the Timestream should be 3 layers beyond Immeasurable layers into High 1-A The Main Multiverse should be 4 layers beyond Immeasurable layers into High 1-A The Forge Of creation is beyond concepts of time and Space since its metaphysical supported by Joe Kelly this means the Forge of creation is a metaphysical realm beyond the concepts of space and time and it adds up when you realize the Forge's Gimmick is being beyond Time and Space and it being Metaphysical supports this so the Forge of Creation is beyond the concept of Space-time It is where the greatest power in the verse lies. Celestialsapiens reside here and they are also beyond the concepts of space-time and are the most powerful beings in the verse Alien X's feat of recreating the universe would already put him at Immeasurable layers into High Outer and Cp's have also been stated to be able to destroy the main multiverse by Duncan Rouleau and even Joe Kelly this would put Alien X at 5 layers beyond Immeasurable layers into High 1-A Celestialsapiens R>F Transcend their entire verse including the Omniverse which has been confirmed to exist by Ultimate Albedo and the Omniverse should be atleast 5 layers beyond Immeasurable layers into High Outer through containing and being above the Main multiverse since Celestialsapiens R>F Transcend their verse they would scale to 6 layers beyond Immeasurable layers into High Outerversal proof of Cp's R>F Transcending the ben 10 Franchise This statement from Joe Kelly that if the Cp's change the entirety of the Ben 10 Franchise with its plot he'd be without a job is already proof of Celestialsapiens R>F Transcending the Verse and it is further proven By Duncan as when he was asked if each member of the the staff team cannonically exist in verse as a Celestialsapien He said a like means yes and he liked. He usually does this to avoid writing long texts so CP's are avatars of the author and thereby the R>F Transcend the verse. so Celestialsapiens R>F Transcend their verse and its further proven by them changing the artstyle and cgi of the show and by them being above Paradox who could also have R>F Transcendance over the verse due to his many ways to tell a story statements. ALL IN ALL ALIEN X SCALES TO IMMEASURABLE LAYERS INTO HIGH OUTER

[@dsm2417]

Ben Still massively outhax finn

[@gadlygamer]

finn literally solos ben 10's verse the cosmic imagination is 1-A as the concept of space, time and dimensions are aspects of the cosmic imagination

[@jhsilver5208]

Ben one taps finn

[@Rebornedits]

anos would win this match up

[@fw.cha0tic_]

Another W from lucilfer

[@AdventuretimesolosW]

Finn>

[@IrumaA-y8j]

So Finn now solos DBS

[@Alex_fr18]

@@IrumaA-y8j he doesn't, and never did

[@JadoBouhzam]

Where do u scale dbs cosmology

[@IrumaA-y8j]

@@JadoBouhzam I'm new to power scaling so I don't know what cosmology means

[@yeikelamores6085]

No, it doesn't, a single universe in db is already beyond Finn Super easy, let's see,In universe 7 there is a super space, which in the context of quantum mechanics is High hyperversal,DB follows that, as it is Canonically at least a type 3 multiverse, stated on official sites,The type 3 multiverse also reaches High Hyperversal via Hilbert space,So it is Consistent that Universe 7 is High Hyperversal, either by Super Space or the Type 3 Multiverse,Moving further into Cosmology, universe 7 also contains things like super dimensional structures,That are things beyond dimensionality itself,And considering that we have already established that Universe 7 is at least High hyperversal+ by two different methods,The only thing that super dimensional structures can be is outerversal,And BoG Goku>>Universe 7 and so on, there is a very simple meta of Goku Outerversal . The scale is also consistent with other statements, such as guides that say that Goku vs Beerus' power and fight is super dimensional,Just like the Chouzenchu that says that the power of the Gods of destruction transcends dimensionality itself, etc.

[@Tricketer]

W

[@D.Zerius]

Why did you leave VC when Axiom scaled Akane to beyond tiering?

[@Tricketer]

@@D.Zerius i had to go since my family was there, i was on vacation when i debated so the house was filled, not that i ducked which is what a lot of ppl seem to be thinking 😭

[@Phantom-Shadow567]

Dude the ghost ship simply downsized themselves to a 3-D plane to fit which is why Ben and rook could see them in the first The High 1-B Adventure Time arguement so debunkable Ben 10 in this very same video you put him also has quantum mechanics and Many World Interpretation because of the Branching timelines/Timestream The branches work on every collapsing wave function of hilbert not that it directly follows hilbert space this shit is literally 2-A This fight isn't complicated it's painfully obvious that Ben 10 destroys Adventure Time

[@Alex_fr18]

@@Phantom-Shadow567 incalculable also doesn't inherently refer to infinite btw And without context, this could be argued as 5D Since every dimensional plain would be incalculably higher than the one below it

[@Phantom-Shadow567]

​​@@Alex_fr18In the context it is not indeed infinite especially when another word for incalculable is endless, measureless and infinite And they say it's incalculable with respect to all 3-D beings but we know Maltruant who is 3-D by existence is capable of calculating the range of the Annailarggh HENCE why he said “The Infinite Timestream is mine to control” Edit:funny how you haven't refuted my arg against High 1-B AT

[@Alex_fr18]

@@Phantom-Shadow567 "it is not because I said so" "It's infinite cuz I said so" The fact that the aliens have a 3D existence/the show creators not knowing whether there are more than 26 dimensional plains of existence/the ambiguity of the word itself, it would be dismissed as being false You didn't prove anything "Infinite time stream", ehh you do realize that you can have an infinite number of 4D universes, which is what is talked about here 🙏🏻😭 "You didn't debunk my high 1-B AT" You want me to debunk that goofy shit ? Sure The scan I used says "there's a collapsing wave function in Hilbert space, an infinitely large windshield containing infinite cracks, stretching into infinity" This means that the collapsing waves, are already in the HILBERT SPACE, WHICH EXISTS in the verse And it's a constant, continuing stream of waves into infinity, which would mean that the Hilbert space itself is infinite dimensional The definition of a Hilbert space from Wikipedia: "an infinite-dimensional analogue of Euclidean space." You wanted your argument to be debunked, there you go 🎉

[@WhatIfStoryteller]

@@Alex_fr18 Bro is on ABREX Type shit

[@WhatIfStoryteller]

@@Alex_fr18 doesn't matter Ben 10 has incalculable dimensions and incalculable dimensions is another way for saying uncountable infinite dimensions. Ben 10 has Uncountable Infinite Dimensions/Incalculable Dimensions.

[@wcom9999]

Finn slam frr

[@justachannel5963]

Im sorry dude but most likely not

[@wcom9999]

@@justachannel5963 he does , Ben don't reach hyper lmao . 26D is outlier

[@justachannel5963]

@@wcom9999 bro clearly didn't watch the video to the end I don't wanna argue so if you reply to this it would most likely be ignored

[@wcom9999]

@@justachannel5963 Ben's hyper arg is not solid . While AT having Hilbert spaces with infinite branching scales it high hyper

[@WhatIfStoryteller]

@@wcom9999 Lol Ben 10 Has uncountable infinite/Incalculable Dimensions

[@D.Zerius]

W.

[@XThelegendX564]

Why does Finn have such drip in the thumbnail though?

[@Alex_fr18]

@@XThelegendX564 he solos the verse with style 🔥

[@Simo-d3t]

w

[@Dragonball-kk4yu]

Credit the artist bro😅

[@Alex_fr18]

@@Dragonball-kk4yu the show artists or ?

[@Dragonball-kk4yu]

@@Alex_fr18 thumbnail

[@Alex_fr18]

@@Dragonball-kk4yu you're talking to the artist of the thumbnail rn

[@Brabbs]

Lol

[@en4d_got_slayed]

W scaling + finn obliterates the verse💀🙏

[@jhsilver5208]

Bro, this is vídeo is debunked

[@en4d_got_slayed]

@@jhsilver5208 Ik but finn takes the W here..

[@jhsilver5208]

@@en4d_got_slayed alien x outscale and speedbkitz

[@Kdowg222]

Finn the human 100%

[@glowfox1450]

f you no

[@phoenixzd5409]

Nuh uh >:)

[@PhantomEditsz]

W goat

[@turkeybeef6269]

Finn slams 🙏🏼😭, farting 4 you if you do Steven vs Anne 😫

[@phoenixzd5409]

Nuh uh >:)

[@turkeybeef6269]

@@phoenixzd5409 ):

[@Alex_fr18]

@@turkeybeef6269 who's Anne ?

[@raheemaslam7363]

@@Alex_fr18Anne from Amphibia

[@turkeybeef6269]

@@Alex_fr18 Amphibia

[@N1jjbafan]

The goat posts again first day of asking to do mha verses hunterxhunter hunterxhunter btw how to join discord? I have screenshots of hunterxhunter scaling

[@Alex_fr18]

discord.gg/ydNV6ujAQu

[@chakrafuji458]

W

[@IanWomack-fp6ee]

W