Yamcha vs Naruto is Totally Unfair!

Naruto power scaling is frequently compared to Dragon Balls for some reason as both series are incredibly iconic not just as shonen but as anime in general. However, today we arent doing Goku vs Naruto, but instead comparing someone lower on the totem poll of power to the naruto verse. Can Yamcha solo them all? Let's find out!
#naruto #dragonball #dragonballz

[@RackerTheRascalMashup]

Is tien vs bleach next lmao

[@lonkstakes]

If the people want it

[@thechadlordboros]

Tien don’t mess around, he’s giving everyone the semi perfect cell treatment 😂

[@fw.carti1]

@@thechadlordboros Tri beam x 10

[@SaraTBV]

Tien doesn't get pass soul society kenpachi or anyone above

[@zachariaravenheart]

I was about to comment this XD

[@liamrobertson9508]

Yamcha in his own universe "Sorry for slowing you down guys" Yamcha basically anywhere else "Prowler theme"

[@trollguy2616]

The “weak” dragon ball characters solo damn near every verse 😭 ain’t nobody forgetting Nappa evaporating an entire city with no effort

[@KidGoku-g4v]

@@trollguy2616 bro even worse a way weaker roshi destroyed moon casually T-T

[@HOLDENPOPE]

@@trollguy2616 'Evaporating an entire city with no effort'. You mean like what the lower-tiers in Naruto can do? Like I'm not saying that Naruto beats Dragon Ball, but a LOT of characters in a LOT of verses, are able to eradicate cities with no effort.

[@majinzanza]

⁠@@HOLDENPOPEfor sure. Back in the OG dragon ball, lots of characters can destroy the moon with no effort. I don’t count DB super (let’s be real, how did master roshi get stronger/ on par with all the other characters without consistent training). That being said, frieza in his first form was an unparalleled ruler of the universe for a long time, until goku turned super saiyan. And unless I’m wrong, yamcha’s end power level is at least equal to frieza’s first form.

[@justcj6708]

@@HOLDENPOPEpretty sure the lower tiers are gone against a saibaman who wouldn’t need to explode

[@potatosalad3655]

The fact that yamcha's brain can even process the fights in dragon ball so far in the story automatically gives him the win

[@Goat_Reaper1]

@@potatosalad3655 couldn't even process goku vs cell

[@kubanrhs1310]

@@Goat_Reaper1 yes he did, idiot. Gohan was the ONLY one to can't keep up to process it till Piccolo said smth.

[@incogni.bro3957]

@potatosalad3655 that's just stupid like really dumb

[@ashen3405]

@@Goat_Reaper1him processing really anything that goes on in dragon ball would give him the win ngl

[@xeratovildan9871]

@@Goat_Reaper1 but he could process fights in the universe 6 tournament, which is a far better feat.

[@DSXL75]

Yamcha unironically goated, he still be fighting impossible battles to protect the planet, give my boy some respect 😭😭😭

[@Tkwox]

Damn right, tell them

[@Goat_Reaper1]

And gets washed every time

[@NOTDNAOFDOOM]

​@@Goat_Reaper1 and that's the best part because Yamcha keeps coming back to fight even though he's outclassed

[@SaraTBV]

@NOTDNAOFDOOM well ain't go be a second time once he gets genjutsu'd then sealed or soul snatched, things lonks didn't even consider he just claims no hax in naruto will work just because, why?

[@myduckisonqauck7227]

@@SaraTBV Because increasing your ki correlates with increasing your mind and spirit.

[@ruandavid6328]

i love how the first losses ever is against, an alien trained by the strongest martial artist on earth, a triclops with a badass lineage trained by a literal assassin and God straight up

[@ngawangchokden4351]

And than Yamcha fought against obliu and won and the same obliu is relative to pikkon and the same pikkon who one shot perfect cell and frieza and his father and so it show how strong he is while we only see Tien defeat or damage Semi cell and yea Tien and Krillin did fought Ginyu force in planet Kai but Yamcha was stronger than them due to using that statement obliu and who is relative to pikkon and the same pikkon who easily one shot cell and frieza and his father lmao but guess he is still 3 strongest human

[@Heil-Haidra2319]

​@ngawangchokden4351 Fillers don't count since those episodes are inventions of the anime, not the manga. Yamcha never won against any actual characters since DragonBall. He got worse in DBZ when he lost his life to a saibman, almost lost his life again to Dr. Gero, and lost the love of his life, Bulma, to Vegeta.

[@charisviiik2716]

Lost Bulma to Vegeta lol

[@myduckisonqauck7227]

​​@@Heil-Haidra2319 Dragon ball is dragon ball, including filler. It's valid

[@Jamlord2061]

yamcha is a big fish in an lovecraftian abyss of a pond

[@bigyoshi5170]

Yamcha was the first Z Warrior to land a hit on Beerus, of course it’s unfair for these ants to battle against *LORD YAMCHA!*

[@lonkstakes]

He spared Beerus in that scene

[@ClanDarkassasins]

Boy how the tables have turned!

[@kamerafreak3492]

For real. He really thought "Nah, i give Goku and Vegeta their time to shine"

[@pasty188]

⁠@@lonkstakes “Bro, you made a mistake. Remember when you talked about Xeno Goku’s memory of Trunks? There’s a problem-it’s from Xeno Goku’s timeline. You need to make sure you get that right. In the video you made about how strong Goku is in ‘Dragon Ball Heroes,’ you made a lot of mistakes. I mean, a lot. You don’t seem to understand how the cosmology works or how the timelines function. Please fix those mistakes.”

[@coolkingkaleb4050]

Indeed

[@ANotSoPopularMan]

Krillin was One Piece. Yamcha was Naruto. Tien in Bleach. Master Roshi in Fairy Tale.

[@damianm8960]

Chioutsu vs Hunter x Hunter

[@ANotSoPopularMan]

@@damianm8960 The Androids vs The Grappler Baki.

[@SaraTBV]

You want tien to get washed?

[@yourfinestlocalidiot]

​@@SaraTBVA Tenshinhan with comparable power levels to Krillin on Namek (75k) was pinning down a 800m to 1b Semi perfect Cell

[@user-su4kx1oo7l]

​@@ANotSoPopularManThere is no power system in baki, pointless

[@WeimarK1986]

Man, when he was killed by a saibaman that was huge, like one of the OG warriors was beaten by a low level minion, THE FEELING OF DESPAIR WAS REAL, the stakes were higher than we thought. Sadly people took it as a disrespect, but at the time IT WAS DREADFUL.

[@farzalou2154]

yeah, i remember the first time i saw that as a kid i was like YEAH YAMCHA and then i was crying when he died.

[@shadedrob137]

People forget how heart wrenching Dragon Ball is. King Piccolo's men killing the warriors we had seen through the OG series, the Z Warriors falling in the Saiyan attack, Frieza's men (and Vegeta) causing genocide across Namek, Cell stalking/preying on innocent civilians while avoiding the heroes that could stop him. Dude, Dragon Ball was intense!

[@ub-4630]

He actually won though. No one could've expected the Saibaman had a trump move.

[@tnmblonewolf8799]

Yamcha lost every major fight since OG Dragon Ball, the shocking part was Yamcha actually dying instead of simply losing.

[@Skyfighter64]

@@tnmblonewolf8799 Here's the kicker: In Dragonball, Yamcha only ever lost to the people who were at the top tier. 21st and 22nd Budokai, Yamcha lost to Jackie Chun and Tienshinhan, both of whom won those tournaments. In the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, Yamcha literally lost to a deity. That should not be anything to sneeze at, or hold it against him. He was the first human character to figure out, on his own, the Kamehameha wave.

[@6ixman485]

Yamcha:"Wolf fang fist!" Naruto verse: *Fucking explodes*

[@coolkidcharles]

I’m fucking dead 💀

[@JuliaWAE]

Edit: First pikkon is not canon yamcha was never that strong Second yes genjutsu do work on anyone with a brain there is nothing to do with network he is just lying and biased Third db characters get vulnerable when their guard is down if blue goku can get one shotted by a ring yamcha can get killed by anything narutoverse can dish out, after getting caugh in even the most basic genjutsu cause he has no defense or knowledge of how they work he probably wouldn't even realize he is a genjutsu while they slit his troat, and even if he went full genocide something he never did he always losses since classic because he goes all cocky and overestimate his enemies until he is proven wrong...unlike vegeta lol, he wouldn't feel ki and think they couldnt fight back and get owned by basically even the children, he doesn't know any jutsu he wont expect any of them a basic substitution will get him blind sided multiple one shot abilities would get him and hr has 0 ways to defend or avoid since he wont feel anyone coming, db characters dont use only eye sight to fight they always complain that is harder to fight enemies they cant feel and yamcha is bottom fodder he has the lowerst ki control goku could basically negate this disadvantage he can't Fk you biased coward for shadowbanning because I destroyed your flawed video Nah, he was mega biased in this vs and lied + omitted multiple facts First pikkon and all that yamcha fight is not canon, second he stopped training after cell saga and became a baseball player as state MULTIPLE TIMES and by seeing how gohan fell of by stop fighting with the buff of being a saiyan I cant even imagine how yamcha fell off by super, he is probably around mecha freeza lvs or worse, sasuke would 100% burn him to ash All of yamcha previous losses was because he is always cocky and thinks he is the guy untill he knows what he is up against, unlike vegeta that denies it until he is face first in the dirt, he just need to see it or feel it what he wouldn't because none of them have ki he wouldn't feel any power and mock them and get clapped, so he would start being all cocky and playing knowing nothing about what the naruto verse can do or how jutsus behave or wtf a substition is 😂 he would puch a log a burn to amaterasu or get cut in half by kamui, might guy would floor him with 8th gate too, you ppl are insanely biased to think yamcha is on par with ssj2 😂 or perfect cell using a non canon fight as example

[@FRIYERNIX]

​@@JuliaWAEDon't forget that dr.slump made any dbz character kill any verse by just existing in their verse

[@JuliaWAE]

@@FRIYERNIX ????? Those types of vs can happen in the void for all we know lol its a character vs character their reality has nothing to do with anything

[@denobiskenechi1682]

​@@JuliaWAEthis is mostly a dragon Ball channel what do you expect

[@canhaoambulante9329]

I love when people describe Krillin / Yamcha as having the "aquaman syndrome" -> They are actually very strong, but choose to hang around the only people on the planet that can overshadow them.

[@JuliaWAE]

He is not that strong thou he was just biased as fuck, that pikkon fight is not canon and yamcha became a baseball player after cell saga and never fough again, seeing how gohan lost basically half his strenght by not training anymore with the buff of being a saiyan I cant even imagine how yamcha fellnof by super you can easily cut 80% of the power he gave him in this vs + yamcha always lost because he goes in all cocky and slip up and lose, all his loses were like that he always underestimate ppl he fights unless he already know how above they are, since he wouldn't feel ki from anyone he would do the same and get clapped in the process

[@BongBongtheGreat]

@@JuliaWAE this scenario depicts yamcha at his peak

[@Sevicify]

@@JuliaWAE Yamcha was a baseball player at the start of Z, it wasn't only after the Cell Saga. Also Yamcha being a baseball player was anime only just like Pikkon and Olibu, Toriyama did however suggest to Toei for Yamcha to play baseball just as he also gave them the concept art for Pikkon (and possibly Olibu too, I'm not sure about him). Mind you chapter 31 of the Super manga where they were determining the Universe 7 team for the Tournament of Power, where Bulma was about to suggest Yamcha before being cut off, there was a bonus page at the end showing Yamcha wearing a baseball uniform saying he still trains to keep from getting rusty just in case. As for Yamcha not fighting again after Cell Saga well that is demonstrably false as in episode 151 of Kai he fought against Kid Buu in the Other World, after having his sparring session with Krillin interrupted, and funnily later in this very same episode we see both Olibu and Pikkon show up (keep in mind Kai was meant to get rid of the filler) using the West Kai to watch Kid Buu's fight with Goku and Vegeta. Also later in the Super manga he also fought again later during the Galactic Prisoner Saga. While this video greatly overestimates Yamcha's power he isn't by any stretch weak, and he still trains right into Super and will still fight if need be.

[@JuliaWAE]

@@BongBongtheGreat his peak is never was what he said thou he gave him too much credit

[@JuliaWAE]

@Sevicify his training is at best keeping at the same level, nothing shows he improved, I was waiting for someone to say the baseball thing is anime only, only to correct them that its toriyama approved lol why did you have to know that 😄, even with all of his possible strenght yamcha is always cocky against enemies he think he is stronger or that he has a chance, he would feel ki from anyone in naruto and underestimate them + all he have is attack, jutsus have a veriety of effects and ways to unpredictability turn the tide its not as one sided and there is multiple ways to defeat him specially being yamcha as the example he would 100% fuck around and find out because its what he always does is the reason he always loses because he is a dumbass

[@JayCraftTV]

Durability wise, he took a baseball from SSB Vegeta without a whole being put in him.

[@ashuraomega1000]

I mean, Vegeta could have been holding back. Ki control is almost always present with every level of power in the series

[@romell06]

@@ashuraomega1000 even if vegeta is holding back that ball hit harder than a ballistic missile lol.

[@ashuraomega1000]

@@romell06 true

[@romell06]

@@ashuraomega1000 holding back is how z fighters except vegeta trying their best not to break the punching machine with a tap.

[@AugustoEL]

@@ashuraomega1000 With anyone else I would belive it. But that is Vegeta, the dude may be with the good guys, but he ain't a saint and he will not care if he turns Yamcha into a donut.

[@LegendaryGuy-lol]

Seriously, yamcha survived more than a 300× earth gravity

[@romell06]

people forgot about that coz goku and vegeta are the only thing that matters. Kaguya Naruto and Sasuke cant even move in Kaguya's gravity dimension where the gravity is like 4 to 5 times that of earth although strength wise human z figters are basically superhuman who can lift a bus with no effort. heck they even use telekenis to move stuff.

[@rayaneouizare6885]

​@@romell06hell normal above average humans like mister Satan can push around ENTIRE TRUCKS, dragon ball humans be busted as hell

[@LegendaryGuy-lol]

@romell06 king kai planet is 10× earth gravity, and all z fighters with no exception even chiaotzu can move in that gravity like they don't even feel it So yeah, naruto verse gets stomped by anyone from post-saiyan saga

[@Goat_Reaper1]

@@LegendaryGuy-lol imagine relying on non canon filler

[@LegendaryGuy-lol]

@@Goat_Reaper1 lol imagine betting your money on a verse that isn't even country level

[@benoitbrown9400]

Whatever happens Yamcha is still the coolest bro in DB. Not only has he never once been a dick to Bulma about the Vegeta thing, he still treats her with hella respect and friendship.

[@10jerr]

Toriama actually revealed why it wasn’t made a big deal of the bulma leaving yamcha thing he was cheating on her it was even expanded upon in the kakorat game

[@themage1016]

@@10jerrkinda stupid when you consider Yamcha can’t even properly talk to a girl in the OG and Tori expects me that he‘ll actually cheat.

[@10jerr]

@@themage1016 yeah dose take away from the character I think he might have just made it cannon for trunks to be a thing

[@GokuBlackRose978]

@@10jerrhated that crap, yamcha is not a player, quite the opposite.

[@10jerr]

@@GokuBlackRose978 in all fairness he wouldn’t really need to be he’s a professional athlete probably the best in the world at his sport he’s also good looking as implied many times through the series

[@Jon-t9x]

The second he said Yamaha could solo the cell arc, it was over

[@blackice7050]

Maybe Moro Saga Yamcha could or Buu Saga Yamcha could do that If he stayed dead for almost a weak

[@Chris_HT]

@@blackice7050in the anime filler episodes we have solid feats of him being above Cell Saga characters and in the Moro Arc he tells us specifically that he’s been training

[@blackice7050]

@Chris_HT Yeah, but Dragon Ball Super garbage writing didn't include him in Resurrection F or T.O.P What a joke!

[@borghot632]

​@@blackice7050 grow up, super is good, you dont need to try so hard to look cool by fake hating, relax.

[@blackice7050]

@borghot632 What does growing up have to do with an anime show? Faking hating? What are you talking about, you mourn? I didn't watch that shit and I don't intend to so piss off

[@hopefulhyena3400]

Yamcha loses a lot but he loses to - the protagonist - one of the greatest martial arts masters to ever live - an assassin who can master any technique from witnessing it once - god - an alien who had to resort to the Chiaotzu maneuver - a literal killing machine

[@ElBandito]

And a mummy.

[@kobe24lebron23jordan]

Yamcha won that fight with his sick comeback ​@@ElBandito

[@ElBandito]

@@kobe24lebron23jordan Nah, Yamcha won against the Invisible Man, but then lost vs. The Mummy.

[@kobe24lebron23jordan]

@@ElBandito kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYLXdKOLnZWLepY

[@do_odman]

@@ElBandito Dragon BAll is definitely the superior series.

[@McMillanTAC]

We are talking child soldiers with magic vs Kung Fu master with superpowers...

[@NN-ms9sg]

kaguya 12yo

[@isaaccuevas1717]

I rather have yamcha stay in the background with his dignity,beats whatever they did with tien being the punching bag

[@lonkstakes]

He was done so dirty in the TOP😭

[@isaaccuevas1717]

@@lonkstakes correct me if I’m wrong but was he not the WEAKEST fighter there,named fighters at least

[@numberhunter62]

@@lonkstakes Tien was also getting beat up by mind controlled not buffed up Roshi in the anime prior to the TOP.

[@Perthro77]

​@@numberhunter62 yeah but... Technically that wasnt canon I say technically because the anime preceded the manga but those episodes still seemed like filler anyway

[@____________838]

Tien likes being a punching bag.

[@Danosauruscrecks]

Being the third strongest human on earth in a series that the majority of humans have a power level of five and the warriors he hangs out with can blow up entire galaxies without effort makes him a total annihilator in pretty much any other series

[@Goat_Reaper1]

He's never showed that level of power

[@slyreject8370]

@@Goat_Reaper1 Because he doesn't get the chance to since he always hangs around god like beings that over shadow him. Hell Master Roshi literally blew up the moon in Dragon Ball and as a fellow human Yamcha certainly compares being able to go toe to toe with characters that the saiyans struggled against before like the Ginyu Force and warriors that participated in the Other World Tournament.

[@Goat_Reaper1]

@slyreject8370 that's not my problem, you can't claim he's of a certain level of power then I say he's not and you say "Well that's cause he never got thr chance to show it" then that means he can't do it

[@ARCA564]

@@Goat_Reaper1 why would yamcha blow up a galaxy or a planet for no reason?

[@Goat_Reaper1]

​@ARCA564 yall the ones that say it not me, answer your own question

[@kain7813]

People don’t realize how strong even the weaker characters are like choutsu could probably blow up a moon

[@SaraTBV]

They still weak in other verses, better go play with demon slayer or something

[@bindle-kun6084]

​@@SaraTBV who exactly asked? they can blow up the moon and more it's just fax nobody mentioned any other anime you just want to start an argument

[@kamerafreak3492]

​@@SaraTBV Damn you salty, might as well make an armor out of it that is immune to facts, since you clearly aren't😂

[@SaraTBV]

@@bindle-kun6084 and yamcha gets clapped by any genjutsu, it's just fax

[@whytfdraketrynarizzup21]

@@SaraTBVoh nah you one of those 😭🙏🏿

[@SolidShepard]

Something to add, in case you dont mention it in the video, yamcha actually did withstand 100x gravity for a bit. People are desensitized to how crazy that is from goku and vegeta.

[@therizzler777]

that's 400g

[@SolidShepard]

@@therizzler777 you are making my point stronger. Lol

[@ciceroissad4821]

He actually survived 300x

[@undoiing1549]

Weakest character in the strongest verse vs the strongest characters in the fodderverse (yamcha no diffs)

[@SaraTBV]

Doesn't even get pass part 1 itachi

[@markmagician2471]

​@@SaraTBVmy man Yamcha is so strong Kamehameha destroys Earth

[@SaraTBV]

@@markmagician2471 cool story, no counter to genjutsu

[@indecision3835]

@@SaraTBV Cool story, no counter to people quadrillion of times faster.

[@SaraTBV]

@@indecision3835 cool story, can't touch obito lol 😎 also limbo clones neg diff, cry about it

[@DgCookFan]

If yamcha was in the naruto universe, he would be getting all the baddies.

[@ohhellwhereami2574]

He stilll alll baddiess thoo?

[@BrandonScott-mi5pz]

EXCELLENT WORK. LONK'S TAKES DRAGON BALL VS NARUTO YAMCHA VS NARUTO VERSE

[@enesmeral4261]

Tsunade🤤

[@____________838]

@@enesmeral4261Tsunade on Tuesdays.

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

​@@enesmeral4261 Yamcha would be too old for her.

[@ghostaccountlmao]

Really tired of people thinking DBZ powerlevels scale linearly. 50,000 is not 33 x 1400 in DBZ. Put it this way: Roshi can destroy the moon with like a 200 Power Level. Farmer with shotgun has a powerlevel of 5. Do we think 40 Farmer with shotguns can blow up the moon? Do we think 300 or so Farmer with shotguns can kill Raditz? No. They don't scale linearly.

[@KidGoku-g4v]

yup i agree it not linear. that actually makes namek saga and later character way more impressive than just basic multiply. i agree

[@badmaninc.536]

With regards to your point about 40 shotgun toting farmers blowing up the moon. It really depends on where they’re from… you now have me picturing this group saying “hold my beer.” And rednecking up a horrifyingly jury rigged contraption to do just that.

[@hugochez]

in every anime it all comes down to techniques

[@wettoast7268]

Interesting argument, well put.

[@lolegaia]

true just because there are 2 ssj1 vs ssj2 doesn't mean they are on the same level. Gohan crapped on Cell in ssj2 while Goku who almost at ssj2 unable to make Cell go all out. If we go by base , Gohan just went into the starting of ssj2 (we can see Vegeta and Goku got more powerful ssj2 form later). Then a starting base of ssj1 is Goku namek. This Goku with 1000 clones won't be able to do sht to Cell. The same goes for the farmer.

[@iiiZokage]

People talk about how Toriyama dropped the ball on Krillin, Tien, Piccolo and Vegeta but YAMCHA was the first ever person in OG Dragon Ball to be able to match Goku. I hated how they brought it Krillin and tried to replace him as Gokus best friend. This man was goated. Gokus rival, Bulmas boyfriend and self taught! Even when they when to their first world tournament after training with Roshi, Yamcha had continued training by himself and could keep up! This man had the most potential along with Goku.

[@mesalgearsolid]

I love Yamcha and will gladly defend his ability...but I think it's a bit of a stretch to say he was a match for Goku. Goku wasn't at full power because he was starving, Yamcha threw everything he had at him and Goku still wouldn't stay down. If Goku was at full strength I don't think it would have gone that smoothly for Yamcha.

[@romell06]

OG ball days were the best.

[@sqoo5]

@@mesalgearsolid Yamcha wasn't even Goku's hardest fight out of everyone iiiZokage listed. The others have held their own as equals as well during points in the story, and a couple even surpassing Goku for a short period.

Don't push it. He rivaled a kid goku while being a young adult. I agree he is a goat, but I wouldn't go that far.

[@Coldskin1]

Yeah matched goku before he trained, goku couldnt even damage the ox king

[@Naruku2121]

For whatever reason I could see Yamcha and Kiba becoming fast friends might even win over the respect of the Inuzuka Clan with his wolf-themed fighting style.

[@MrHumble101]

They’re practically the same character

[@MrHumble101]

Fun fact if you didn’t already know, the english dub of Kiba and adult Gohan are voiced by the same person

[@Naruku2121]

@@MrHumble101 I did notice some level of similarities, but thanks for pointing it out.

[@illyahrthebard3303]

Yamcha would 100% get adopted by the Inuzuka lmao

[@DDobs12]

The real feat here would be if the Narutoverse can actually make Yamcha sweat.

[@Goat_Reaper1]

Can yamcha even get out genjutsu, that still is yet to be answered and this is just 1 ability

[@DDobs12]

@@Goat_Reaper1 can they even catch him in genjutsu? I don't see anyone keeping up with his speed or strength.

[@Goat_Reaper1]

@@DDobs12 there isn't anything yamcha has ever shown or done that proves he's impossible to catch in any genjutsu especially the most potent ones

[@DDobs12]

@Goat_Reaper1 lol what? There is plenty in scaling to show he outclasses anything a Naruto character can throw at him. If you watch the video you will be given plenty of evidence as well. To put it simply...shooting me with a gun can kill me, but if you give the gun to an ant...well then it can't. That's the situation here, a bunch of ants vs Yamcha. This isn't even a debatable topic.

[@Goat_Reaper1]

@DDobs12 watching the video he makes repeated false claims, faulty scaling based off non canon material and baseless claims like yamcha is just immune to any hax in naruto with no proof or reason why, the video was 100% ass

[@ClanDarkassasins]

I tried to tell many people and no one wanted to listen... there are levels to this and Yamcha is far beyond anything in the Naruto verse.

[@Goat_Reaper1]

Yall been getting cooked with every non argument since he made this topic lol, no counter to any hax and faulty bullshit scaling just to glaze, dragonball fans are truly pathetic bottom of the barrel

[@yert5035]

naruto can destroy matter. less proficient users of the bodyflicker can keep up with teleports. naruto would blitz goku.

[@Killa_Cam2002]

@@yert5035 ??? Body Flicker doesn't mean shit to goku, mainly because his speed is Beyond infinity going into immeasurable speeds if we are low balling.

[@ClanDarkassasins]

@@yert5035 The rock that Krillin casually threw and hit goku in the head would disintegrate Naruto.

[@yert5035]

@@Killa_Cam2002 beyond infinite? Lmfao. Again less proficeint user of the body flicker can keep up with teleports.

[@somepvpguy69]

"infin- whetes the moon?" "I showed it something rad. SPIRIT BALL!"

[@jamainegardner4193]

For Android saga Yamcha, there's also the fact that Gero had calculated Goku's strength based off the Saiyan saga and his projected growth from there. In other words, he thought Goku would get 20⁴x stronger, or 80⁴x stronger and Yamcha fit that bill.

[@cuckertarlson3037]

He based his projections off of gokus previous battles. So no need to think the increase would be anything drastic like was seen on namek, with Goku abusing the zenkais.

[@jamainegardner4193]

@@cuckertarlson3037 The largest increase Goku had shown (what Gero built his projections around) was his increase from Raditz to Vegeta. In Numerical terms, 416->8000(20x), or 416->32,000(80x). Therefore he was expecting that every year, for the next four years(from the fight with Vegeta to the Android attack it's roughly 4 years, Goku would get 20x/80x stronger. the 20^4 calculations line up with how Piccolo told everyone to either be strong enough too beat the Androids or don't bother showing, with Mecha Frieza being 5-10x stronger than on Namek, while the 80^4 makes the most sense for Gero as a character, but may have been what he built the other Androids for.

[@cuckertarlson3037]

@@jamainegardner4193 even with geros highest projections. They did not expect Goku to be anywhere near the hundreds of millions like he ended up. Yamcha still scales extremely low in comparison. So like I said. Still not inpressive. They didn't even know what SSJ was. Piccolos statement is irrelevant considering that yamcha got one shot by Gero and then immediately afterwards yamcha admits he can't hang them takes Goku home. Most of the feats listed in this video are non canon. In original canon yamcha doesn't really progress much after the Saiyan saga.

[@phuzzychinn]

@@jamainegardner4193 Like, even though most people think power levels are useless as numbers and even the series stops tracking numbers and starts using other characters as measuring sticks, I did 20x his Saiyan saga power level (1480) and then did that another 3x to account for the training period for the Androids. I came up to 236,800,000... Twice what Namek-Freeza was at 100% against goku's super saiyan. That's also just assuming it was only a 20x increase each time and that's still impressive and could body the Naruto-verse easy

[@KopperNeoman]

@@phuzzychinn Characters still do have a numbered power level, even if the characters don't use them anymore.

[@alicepbg2042]

Now we need to see another "this guy is weak" character dealing with another verse. I vote for usopp vs attack on titan.

[@jaylensteward3461]

Overkill he would have no challenge

[@yadirect]

@@alicepbg2042 Mismatch, Usopp is sharpshooter and have observation Haki he could any kill Titan user as long have ammo could penetrate titan body

[@alicepbg2042]

@@yadirect but it's so funny to have usopp fight attack on titan

[@thch5855]

Notice how yamcha/usopp get owned by naruto/attack on titan?

[@jaylensteward3461]

@@thch5855 huh?

[@deadshot792]

We startin a discord debate with this one

[@casperthesillygoose]

I will stand on Yamcha winning no diff, no one had enough speed or reaction to put Yamcha in a Genjutsu plus with no chakra he can't be put in one or he'll fly into space and destroy they're solar system they have no way to counter Yamcha nor the speed to try he is literally billions of times faster than light they won't even know what hit them

[@SaraTBV]

@casperthesillygoose you gotta be trolling or just a dumbass lol 1)yamcha isn't that fast and genjutsu can work on non chakra beings you muppet, it literally works on animals, sage creatures and tailed beast 2)yamcha is nowhere near a solar system destroyer and can't even survive in space wtf are you talking about lmao 3)prove his speed is in the billions without bringing up some filler that's not even canon to the main story lol

[@stephenshaw-wx1fb]

No debate at all he’d no diff speedrun through them

[@Son_Dragneel]

What is there to debate?, with speed alone Yamcha is too much, cosmology is just smite.

[@deadshot792]

@@Son_Dragneel yeah I know but in lonks discord some guy was trying to defend the Naruto verse

[@childishsloth4164]

Considering the fact that piccolo told everyone if you don’t think you can help and pull your own weight don’t come at all. Meaning every Z-fighter after the time skip more than likely surpass at the very least frieza on namek.

[@SaraTBV]

@@childishsloth4164 then that proved to be a very false statement cause all of them proceeded to get violated by cell Jr's including piccolo himself

[@jayscription6376]

@@SaraTBVthe cell juniors were stronger than frieza….

[@SaraTBV]

@@jayscription6376 ok? Doesn't mean yamcha was

[@Wolfbroa]

@@SaraTBVconsidering they fought and survived them for so long and then get stronger afterwards with buu saga, and super it means a ton

[@SaraTBV]

@Wolfbroa only reason they survive Is cause cell Jr's just decided to pound on them instead of kill them, that is NOT a feat lol you got beat up from beginning to end never matching any cell Jr in power

[@dunumber1]

Hold up. Yamcha wasn’t defeated “early in the brackets” he always made it to the top 8. Top 8 strongest in the world isn’t anything to scoff at

[@mugiwaraluffy6791]

Yeah there like 300 people join tounament and yamcha make top 8. And lose to goku,jackie ,chun and kami.,yamcha top 3 strongest people ever surpas roshi and tao pai pai

[@godnero7031]

Most of this was non-canon ,but Yamcha surviving 300xs gravity was one of his best shown feats. Even if he almost died doing it thats extreme. Goku did 100xs and struggled just as badly when he first did it if not worse. Then continued to body the Ginyu force after training in 3 times less than what Yamcha did.

[@mugiwaraluffy6791]

Goku also almost die in 100x gravity but he immediatly stop the button gravity and eat senju bean after

[@godnero7031]

@@mugiwaraluffy6791 yep so Yamcha survived longer in higher gravity and didn’t need a senzu to recover. Sucks they just made him a running joke in Super.

[@shoken4421]

2:25 you showed Yamcha get thrown around by a saibaman there's also the fact tien was chosen over yamcha for the tournament of power along with krillin and master roshi. Your asking a guy who stopped training to fight several highly trained ninja . This isn't even remotely close lol

[@SolidShepard]

Yeah. Back in the saiyan saga. He also beat that saibaman. And in the moro arc, it's revealed he started training again and is now more powerful than he's ever been.

[@jacobstevens6511]

He was stronger than that Saibaman by a lot. The Saibaman had a power of 1200, just like Raditz. Yamcha was 1480. Also nobody in Naruto is beating a Saibaman.

[@dashmyton8435]

Yamcha one taps the verse almost instantly

[@boredomkiller99]

Current Super manga Yamcha actually is back to training and fought in the Moro arc

[@ctv186]

Yamcha: So you're saying I won? Manager: Kid, all you do is win.

[@xx_hivewars_xx9013]

DBZA Reference!.

[@chukaval7009]

Madara vs the Shinobi Alliance, but SO MUCH worse. On a sad note, if Yamcha has to be wiping out fodder verses to get a W, he really needs some respect once the manga comes back or through Daima.

[@SaraTBV]

Didn't even provide a single counter to any genjutsu

[@bindle-kun6084]

​@@SaraTBVjudging from your profile and name I assume your biased

[@SaraTBV]

@bindle-kun6084 bias? I'm bias but lonks use non canon faulty scaling and provided no counter to any hax yet IM BIAS lmao

[@jayscription6376]

@@SaraTBVyou are though, you literally have commented to multiple people trying to say how in some possible way Yamcha loses to significantly less impressive characters lock in and accept it, your biased, also to give you a counter, 1 genjutsu needs chakra to work. 2. Yamcha could just escape genjutsu (along with other db characters) by powering up because surging energy is a way the a genjutsu can be released ( if he were to be put under it).

[@Goat_Reaper1]

@jayscription6376 this video is terrible from start to finish, no wonder he also has a terrible fanbase as well

[@alexg22222]

So, i do agree that Yamcha is stronger than people give him credit for, but you wanked him to absolutely ludacris levels based on 2 fights that never actually happened. The ginyu fight, and the other world fight were filler. Yamcha's last proper fight was vs the saibamen. And maybe the sparing he and Tien had vs Piccolo on King Kai's planet. He does have some exchanges with the mini cells, but gets wreckt regardless. He kept getting stronger throughout the series, but he is infinitely weaker than what you make him out to be. He is definitely not SSJ2 level, not even SSJ 1 level. At most i would give him a beginning of the namek saga goku level. He is definitely a planet buster. That being said, i do believe he does solo the Naruto verse :))

[@Goat_Reaper1]

Nobody can get him pass genjutsu, not even lonks so he just literally side steps it and all other hax yamcha just wouldn't have an answer for

[@alexg22222]

@@Goat_Reaper1 When the guy shoots a kamehameha that blows up everything in a 100 KM radius, your genjutsu user will go down the drain.

[@Goat_Reaper1]

@alexg22222 100 km radius? I'm wondering where you got that size from cause that ain't happen against the saibamen lol Anyways, he shoots his Kamehameha then how will he look when his Kamehameha gets absorbed by like any rinnegan user, what then?

[@alexg22222]

@@Goat_Reaper1 So you are using only the weakest version of a character, not taking any other stronger version into consideration as far as i see. Last i checked, Roshi during the first tournament blew up the moon, a roshi that was much, much weaker than even the Yamcha that fought Saibamen. The powers in Dragon ball universe has gotten so ridiculous that things have to be toned down for the sake of narrative, otherwise any ki attack would just blow up the planet:)). Last i checked, Rinnegan absorbs Ninjutsu, attacks based on chakra or nature energy. As far as i know, dragon ball characters have no such thing, so you can't just assume the rinnegan can absorb any energy related attack. And even if that were the case, it is not like they are immune to having their heads ripped off. The only thing i actually see working is if he is caught off guard and a rinnegan user can suck out his soul. Even though we have seen in naruto that people with strong chakra pools can do the tug of war for his soul. Plus both universes work differently. In naruto you die, your soul goes to the undying lands, and it is just that, a soul, in dragon ball, people like yamcha are allowed to keep their physical body even after they die. So it also depends on the rules of which universe you are using. For example DB characters have been able to nullify or reduce the effects of some hax abilities if the character is extremely strong, or has a strong will. like Vegeta breaking Babidi's mind control, or Vegitto keeping his abilities even after he was turned into a candy.

[@Goat_Reaper1]

@alexg22222 to claim a character will have hax resistance to other verses hax you can't just be like "Well their stronger so hax won't work you have to show them doing hax resistant things in their verse and what type of hax are getting resisted or overpowered You can't just claim a character will just power through a hax ability from another just off some power you think they have, just cause it exist in their verse, cool, but did they do it though? No? OK then

[@xx_hivewars_xx9013]

Gloria a Yamcha!. El lobo solitario.

[@fornowhere7264]

"Not only does it need a full moon" bro the dragonball universe had to destroy the moon because of how often it was popping up 9:52

[@captainhostile101]

dude was multi planetary level at the MIDDLE of Z, went and gotten even stronger in Super stopping Moro empowered prisoners. Not only that he solos, he does it with one hand

[@ezequielinsaurralde5058]

Most Characters Of The Dragon Ball Series Can Simply Stat-Check Naruto One's, The Vast Difference In Speed, Durability And Power Between Both Series Is Massive

[@Philtopy]

I always disliked how Yamcha got treated after the fight. People constantly nagged that he should have killed the Saibaman instead of bragging. But thats it: He DID kill him! Dont forget: Yamcha can sense power levels and Yamcha took 16 seconds simply watching the Saibaman in the crater, before turning and bragging. In that time he made sure his opponent doesnt make a single twitch and he sensed his energy very thoroughly. Second point: Saibamen and Sayans cannot sense energy levels! So the Saibaman couldnt have known how to hide their energy since they couldnt even know it was something that could be sensed. So it could not have played dead. So for all facts of that moment: The Saibaman WAS dead! But here is the catch: The Saibamen are lab bred for war. Their entire purpose is to fight, take over entire planets and train with Sayans. So for a beeing completely bred for war to have a biomechanism that is able to reanimate them to then latch on and blow up their foe makes total sense. If something is able to kill a Saibaman, it should be dealt with immedietly. So the bio-rivival is there to take the demaged-beyond-repair Saibaman and turn him into a living bomb. Very cold, logical and economical. Perfectly fitting to the mind of whoever came up with these fiendish creations. So thats what I believe is canon there: Yamcha 100% killed the Saibaman, he watched and checked the Saibaman for signs of life, He doesnt find signs of life so he turns around and starts bragging. Meanwhile the Saibaman revives himself and pulls a kamikaze on unsuspecting Yamcha.

[@FJUVHJDSR]

4:19 c'mon let's be fr, Cell saga Yamaha is not stronger than Saiyan saga Freiza... Neither is Buu Saga Yamaha stronger than Any top tier in the cell saga because Toriyama didn't write that shii💀

[@Goat_Reaper1]

These dudes be making up their own headcanon, they believe since he apart of the arc he gets the upscaling even tho he didn't do shit lol

[@samuraiblack8840]

It's been shown and proven try harder

[@FJUVHJDSR]

@@Goat_Reaper1 exactly, Dragon ball fans are the only fandom that upscale their characters based on fillers and what if's😮‍💨

[@FJUVHJDSR]

@@samuraiblack8840 buddy I read the manga, he doesn't get upscale through any methods used in the video(after the Saiyan saga), especially when he scaled him through Pikkon who is literally a filler character... We can get Naruto characters to Galaxy or higher, if we are going off head canon and filler materials

[@gabrielsalahi3656]

You’re using headcanon, he’s using straight facts Doctor knows exactly how strong Frieza is, Doctor thinks Goku killed Frieza, Doctor sees Yamcha’s powerlevel and goes “oh? This HAS to be Goku”

[@DaySZN]

This @SaraTBV kid keeps going in ppls comments yapping abt how badly yamcha loses. You have gave NO feats or evidence to your claims go back to debate class 😭😭😭

[@SaraTBV]

I been saying the entire time genjutsu negs and nobody in the entire comments has brought a valid counter, I've said obito slams cause yamcha can't touch him, kamui slams, I've said itachi genjutsu slams, I can even take it into boruto to really be unfair he gets instantly clapped by deamon so cry about it Until you can give a counter to any of these you can cope

[@Dr.Loudpack]

​@@SaraTBVIf you think obito even touches Yamcha you're under some sort of genjustu

[@ngawangchokden4351]

@@SaraTBVf*cker prove Ki and chakra same because tf Naruto characters gonna do when Yamcha destory the tree that give chakra

[@AugustoEL]

@@Dr.Loudpack Good one

[@AugustoEL]

@@SaraTBV Stop lying multiple people (me included) have said how DB characters can break out of it if they *SOMEHOW* catched Yamcha in one. So no, you are wrong. Give another argument taht can hold up or shut it.

[@techboyt3405]

Just gonna correct you Lonk. In the Moro arc Yamaha actually trains with Piccolo safe to say he scales around ssj2 - mystic gohan from super

[@KurtAngle89]

Honestly, all the further scaling for Earthlings, above Cell, etc...makes no sense at all. Exceeding planet level is a stretch, let alone surpassing light speed. This being said, Yamcha can solo Narutoverse at a 60.000 power level, so that's not an issue

[@Goat_Reaper1]

Then he wakes up in a genjutsu

[@dillonsparks115]

Not really if yamcha is casually beating beings that would casually beet cell all be it filler shows his growth to that point again krillin was in the top same with tien db I'd the only anime that puts earthlings at these levels to be fair

[@mugiwaraluffy6791]

Bro thinks yamcha power level don't increase in each saga.. androad saga yamcha not same power level as saiyan saga yamcha..of course he power level also increase..he training

[@Crazieyboy15]

I never understand the disrespect for my boy Yamcha. My mans stepped up when earth needed protecting from insurmountable odds and paid the ultimate price in fighting a battle that 99.8 percent of earthlings couldn't hope to even fight. Why is he made into a joke because he got caught by a kamikaze attack that would have killed anyone except maybe piccolo. Put respect on my mans name.

[@kylegrefe4399]

I still think Yamcha wins, but I want to point out some possible curveballs the Naruto verse has. 1. Teleportation. Minato has a teleportation ability, that people react to. I think the speed of the Naruto characters may have been lowballed by not mentioning this. 2. Amaterasu. Not that it could do much damage to Yamaha, but it could probably at least hit him as the actuvation condition is just seeing him as far as I'm aware. 3. Izanagi (I hope this is the right one). The time loop thing could potentially stall Yamcha, or even make him give up, especially if he in typical dragonball fashion doesn't go for the instant win. 4. Hidan can't die, which might surprise and stall Yamcha long enough for someone to actually use genjutsu (presuming it can work on him in the first place).

[@gr8b8m85]

Yamcha speed blitzes everyone before they can pull these techniques including Minato, Juubi Obito and Madara outsped him and they aren't even planetary let alone the crazy levels of power Yamcha would be at.

[@SaraTBV]

​@@gr8b8m85yamcha speed blitzes nobody lol yall can't even prove yamcha superior speed and don't start giving me non canon filler, on top of that you just named someone who makes this a negative diff, madara, wtf does yamcha do against limbo?

[@riskbreaker23]

@@SaraTBV What's stopping Yamacha from just casually flying up and just nuke who is fighting from a mile away? THere are maybe three characters in Naruto have shown an ability to fly Onoki, Pain, and Madara. None them though have shown the could match Yamacha in aerial combat. None of them are faster than Yamacha either. Madara got speed blitzed by Gai who doesn't hold a candle to Yamacha.

[@SaraTBV]

@@riskbreaker23 yea madara got speed blitzed by guy who can run so fast he was bending space, has yamcha ever ran of flew so fast he was bending space?

[@Draconicxy]

Yamcha better pray no one has a self-destruction attack

[@zedorian6547]

That self destruction better be at least able to level a continent while Yamcha isn’t paying attention or it wont work.

[@KidGoku-g4v]

@@zedorian6547 bro even continental attack wont do anything to yamcha at this point. he will tank it casually.

[@Willing_Herold]

@@KidGoku-g4vHe’s got ptsd….

[@HOLDENPOPE]

Deidara: "My time has come."

[@KidGoku-g4v]

@@Willing_Herold lol

[@yspy_1801]

Just to point out. Bijuu don't really have chakra networks, they're basically just living chakra and the 9 Tails gets affected by basic sharingan genjutsu.

[@Sunaiguess7]

Kaguya used genjutsu on normal people remember that And if you want more on my scaling when you reply put 3x

[@giantfood1]

to quote the great Nappa: "At least you've proven that your Raditz is still stronger than our Raditz. "

[@cottoncandyenthusiast8371]

0:19 So glad SOMEONE's saying it, imo, we need to stop saying weak characters are trash just because they're weak cause sometimes they do have redeeming qualities that could make them better than stronger characters in a story As an example and kind of spoilers for Blue Lock and haven't seen it yet, Isagi isn't the strongest guy but his technique, being able to survey the area around him, makes him the asset he is on the field, never being able to physically overpower someone like Barou but having the ability to overtake him and score, maybe even win a 1 on 1 first to 5 match

[@SaraTBV]

@@cottoncandyenthusiast8371 they are still trash, this video is trash dragonball wank BS

[@bedwarspro]

Isagi is actually useful but yamcha isn't. He just exists for no reason, isn't even funny, just useless.

[@cottoncandyenthusiast8371]

@@bedwarspro I think he has fans that either like him as he is now or when he actually got some fighting done, the point is that both characters have different personalities from the rest of the cast that people can enjoy and even if Yamcha NEVER fights again, people will still be able to look back at what he's done and see the character at their peak

[@ashuraomega1000]

The power scaling community will never understand this

[@maridiancrest243]

Yamcha literally lost to Saibaman. He lost to plant grown Raditz

[@clankoos6694]

DBZ gets soloed by any genin genjutsu

[@KidGoku-g4v]

yeah no lol. you cant assume Z warriors stand there when they are like freaking quadrillions of times faster and stronger. it doesnt matter at that point. one hit and its done. and yamcha doesn even have chakra lol. hes from a different verse. its just hapenning if yamcha just stand there with his guard down and let them attack. which tbh is an odd assumption.

[@clankoos6694]

@@KidGoku-g4v chakra(india), chi(china) and ki(Japan) are the same thing.

[@KidGoku-g4v]

@@clankoos6694 bruh thats in real life. its fiction we are talking about. chakra in naruto is way different than real life chakra. Ki in dragon ball is way different than real life chakra as a concept. bruh thats an odd logic to use.

[@chickenpotpieare3things]

Not how it works my man

[@ArtsByEbuka]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@yakurbe7039]

Okay, but counterpoint: Sexy Jutsu.

[@ngawangchokden4351]

Yamcha destory that sh*t

[@AugustoEL]

If it were against OG DB it would cook Yamcha but he got past that weakness.

[@GrayAndGrey]

Bulma made sure he got over his phobia of women back on OG Dragon Ball. Until she became Vegeta's baby-mama in Z, that is.

[@KidGoku-g4v]

that can solo yamcha.... i agree

[@IvanAcevedo_28]

No way people genuinely believe yamcha could come near any naruto top tier,kaguya solos 85% of dbs.

[@PurelyFactsYT]

Okay buddy calm down...

[@IvanAcevedo_28]

@@PurelyFactsYT prove me otherwise

[@spomgesty]

yamcha speedblitzing all shinobis, claps hinata and sakura while also clapping temari in a matter of 3 seconds

[@eddieboston6540]

So your boy a pedo because war arc Sakura and Hinata are 16 to 17

[@thch5855]

Acting as if naruto can't

[@spomgesty]

@@thch5855 naruto wont even be able to get past gaara sasuke and etc without fighting for like 10 mins

[@thch5855]

@@spomgesty Gaara? Lmao,he gets blitzed. You're acting as if yamcha is getting past neji

[@spomgesty]

@@thch5855 gaara is technically stronger than naruto now because no kurama + get anyone in naruto past star 🤣🤣

[@Cannabionic]

My boy Yamcha got a pity video. 😂 He's still cool though. 😎😏

[@motmot_is_watching]

I agree with pretty much everything but Kamui should work on Yamcha mainly because it's put on someone not launched like a bullet. If Yamcha gets Kamui on him he can't run away from it, it sucks you to another dimension while on you. From what I've heard that's how Kakashi beats Gojo because it bypasses defenses and you can't run from it you can only counter it.

[@SaraTBV]

@@motmot_is_watching he also never mentioned or tried to even say a counter to limbo clones, things that exist on a whole other plane of existence

[@incogni.bro3957]

@@SaraTBV he bypass alot of stuff all i heard is yamcha outstate the verse with not much calc bruh is another throw away vid

[@Jon-t9x]

Bruh, quadrillions! Yamcha is speed blitzing those bums

[@Goat_Reaper1]

​cool story bro, can't touch obito, genjutsu, kamui neg

[@chadthundercock3440]

If he scales to super characters he could break out of the dimension like dbz characters can scream the timechamber open

[@BlazeNarutoShippuden]

Yamcha is a coward at heart and would be afraid of most characters in Naruto, One Piece and even Bleach.

[@dashmyton8435]

Yamcha one shots the Naruto verse instantly

[@SaraTBV]

​@@dashmyton8435them he wakes up in a genjutsu

[@PegasusTenma1]

The hell are you talking about, lmao. What a cop out. Why'd he be afraid of people who are statues to him and about as strong as ants? The fact that Yamcha keeps fighting despite knowing he's outmatched in DB proves that he's NOT a coward.

[@PegasusTenma1]

@@SaraTBV You mean you do?

[@MeEatBeef]

when was he a coward, can you tell me exactly ? btw yamcha can just blow up the solar system among all the naruto chars, yall delusional fans cant stop coping

[@originaldatagate2]

People forget, Madara dropping meteors was considered a huge feat top tier people struggled with. Blowing up a meteor is something even Saiyan Saga Z Fighters could do with ease (or if not Saiyan Sage, easily Frieza Saga Z Fighters could). DBZ power levels are MASSIVE compared to any other shonen.

[@Goat_Reaper1]

Biggest feat in saiyan saga was destroying a city, yamcha doesn't even scale to the big feats you wanna use

[@ayushanuroop9203]

just because he isn't shown destroying city or planets doesn't mean he isn't capable if you wanna believe fine, but don't ignore the power scaling or facts that was already shown in the video if you really think you are correct than I request you please make a video of your own explaining that I will glady watch it. ​@@Goat_Reaper1

[@Goat_Reaper1]

​@ayushanuroop9203 the video relied on non canon filler, if you take that as evidence then that's on you Also yall can't say naruto ain't planetary then cause you just said, just cause you ain't seen it doesn't mean they can't do it, don't ignore the power scaling and facts of narutoverse

[@dillonsparks115]

​@Goat_Reaper1 umm sayian saga piccolo blows up the moon what are you smoking biggest feet is blowing up a city?????

[@Goat_Reaper1]

@@dillonsparks115 ok and naruto scale to multi planetary beings, guess which is stronger

[@Jsipki265]

Glade our wolf fang goat is getting respect

[@FrizzRizz]

Nah Gohan vs boruto Is not Fair😭🙏

[@SaraTBV]

@@FrizzRizz yea boruto beyond stomps

[@DanrylleOsillos]

​@@SaraTBVoverrated ahhhh

[@SkyRider4815]

​@@SaraTBVGohan twerks the verse

[@GOKU_SLAMS_YOuR_FAVRIOTE_VERSE]

@@SaraTBVno he dosent teen ss2 gohan blitzes plus one shots cry

[@SaraTBV]

@GOKU_SLAMS_YOuR_FAVRIOTE_VERSE cool story bro, gohan comes trying to attack and instantly gets discombobulated by rasengan uzuhiko and promptly one shotted

[@Ricki_47]

Yamcha just had the most unfortunate luck ending up facing the people he did when he did we all would've been clowning krillin and tien if the roles were swapped although I don't see tien getting his guard down against a saibamen

[@billbob4856]

Krillin would’ve gotten clowned too if Toriyama was like “nah you don’t get 18” after he smashed the remote. If he had done that, Krillin would be arguably worse off with the fan jokes than Yamcha.

[@maidenreligion12]

As much as I love DBZ, I hate how bad the powerscaling is. Or at least how bad people parade it as. Like, quadrillions of times faster than light is so insanely, incomprehensibly stupid that it stops mattering anymore. That's so fast that they can cross the entire observable universe end to end in the blink of an eye. Instant Transmission would be utterly pointless because the time it would take for any character to get anywhere would be so insignificant, it might as well be instant anyways.

[@federicopalacios7439]

DB fans just overglaze the characters, they are not stated to be nowhere near as strong, but I have seen people say that even Bardock is star level. Yeah right, the character that canonically cannot even destroy a planet is star level, sure buddy. Or how characters are "way faster than light"; yet Buu saga Gohan flying at FULL SPEED took several minutes to go from one point of the planet to another, when actual light takes 8 minutes to travel from the Sun to Earth, so unless the planet in DB a third of the size of the solar system, that should not be possible. Let's not forget the classic post-Cell saga Goku struggling to lift 40 tons in base form. The reality is that, canonically DB characters are barely faster than light, and that's only Goku and the likes, not the rest of the Z warriors, they are nowhere near that level.

[@maidenreligion12]

@@federicopalacios7439 Yeah, that's kinda why I added the bit about parading. Because it's been a while since I've seen DBZ and I haven't bothered with DBS, so I wasn't sure how much was legit and how much was fans overhyping the characters. Though sometimes the filler doesn't help matters. Like Vegeta and King Vegeta wiping planets out with a wave of their hand. Which I dislike because it lessens the impact of Freiza doing the same thing. Or hearing people continue to talk about power levels and saying characters are in the octillions or nonillions now. Even though the entire point of power levels was to show that it was a dumb way to judge one's power.

[@christophersekyere4183]

@@federicopalacios7439 Bardock can destroy a planet the hell

[@christophersekyere4183]

@@federicopalacios7439 and yes the Dragon ball Universe is said to be Wayyy bigger than our own

[@ngawangchokden4351]

@@federicopalacios7439yea yea sure sure saying db fans overglaze when Naruto fan saying Naruto is solar system level when we didn’t even see him destory solar system and plus can scaled to complex multiverse because of kaguya 🤦‍♂️so yea shut up

[@dnpuckitt]

Half the nonesense you said about yamcha was based on guesswork you made about filler episodes. The official power levels for each dragonball arc are available. Theres no point in this innaccurate guessing.

[@demomanchaos]

The only official power levels end with the Frieza Arc.

[@dnpuckitt]

@@demomanchaos I've seen power levels from official dragonball books going through the Majin but arc

[@demomanchaos]

@@dnpuckitt No you havent. The only "official" levels were from a Daizenshu (Probably spelled wrong) guidebook that ended with with Kakarot first hitting SSJ1.

[@dnpuckitt]

@@demomanchaos na they made one that included the buu saga

[@demomanchaos]

@@dnpuckitt No they did not, that guide was a physical booklet. If you have a source do share it, but never has any official source had power levels (Which never had a number given for them post Namek save reading Trunks pre-power up and Broly's dad in the DBS movie)

[@archie857]

As soon as you said yamcha outscales super perfect cell i knew you were back on the crack pipe. Praying you get sober your family misses you 🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@cheez7519]

The same dude who was chilling on the stadium stands at the World Tournament cuz he said he had given up on fighting was apparently stronger than Cell , Poor Yamcha if only he knew he coudlve entered the tournament!

[@KidGoku-g4v]

bro yamcha did scale way higher than super perfect cell though. yamcha was soloing the warriors that were strong enough to oneshot cell. yamcha did performed better than pikkon and you what pikkon did? he oneshotted cell

[@dashmyton8435]

Yamcha stomps the verse. Keep coping

[@holdmy40zz]

i like how yamcha and mr satan are weak even tho they still change the db story drastically

[@DKS_hli]

Naruto can survive planetary attacks in kcm2 pretty well I don’t think Yamcha survives a city level attack he’d probably get speed blitzed anyway I’m not saying that he guaranteed loses, but I’m pretty sure it’s most likely Naruto

[@jasonjc2264]

Yamaha can’t get speed blitzed. He’s way faster.

[@Drunken_Hamster]

All Hail Lord Yamcha. I knew those Ultra Instinct Yamcha edits were no joke!

[@tsukune2910]

Not allowing genjustu is such a generic cop out answer imo. Let’s take an away one of the main abilities of the shinobi then say they lose.Are we allowing yamcha to sense Ki they don’t have? This is my only contention . Even normal sharingan can use genjustu that warps reality? Does space time need chakra networks? Cripplimg genjustu to only be a problem if your from Naruto is just so extremely disingenuous for vs battles. Also if anything infinite tsukoyomi shows you don’t even need a chakra network and it’s just a stronger version of regular tsukoyomi. Like stop heavily crippling 1 side. You just glossed over genjustu so hard cause yamcha gets kinda messed up by it so you just take it off the table….. also limbo clones is like a hard counter? The way naruto gets disrespected lately we really didn’t need this lol. Like even sage creatures existed BEFORE hagaromo gave out chakra to humans and they have put sage creatures under genjustu. Also just the fact you can GIVE people chakra means that chakra network nerf makes no sense. Idk man lol

[@davidrojas8210]

genjutsu is strictly stated to only work against those with chakra channels in their bodies. why should it work on someone from a different verse that has none.

[@onesmart229]

@@davidrojas8210the word “only” is carrying a lot of weight there considering that it is never stated like that.

[@tsukune2910]

⁠@@davidrojas8210no it’s not and yall say this cause you haven’t actually read the panels. Only that this is said is you control the chakra flowing through those systems not that you control the system itself. Like you don’t read Naruto so stop. And he even in the video gives examples of this not even needing to be the case. This is a cop out answer to avoid the loss. And let’s also nerf the side that’s already weaker? It’s a cop out answer to avoid a beat down. Sharingan genjustu literally injects it straight to your brain

[@tsukune2910]

@@onesmart229like it is NEVER stated. Like I hate these cop out answers and obviously nerfing 1 side then using anime filler to buff the other is so silly lmao

[@onesmart229]

@@tsukune2910 yeah, he didn’t even mention Boruto part 1 when Naruto and Sasuke were actually at their peak and instead using TBV introducing new characters as an excuse to not talk about Boruto entirely.

[@suivatra123]

Anyone in Naruto being higher than possibly planetary is a stretch in of itself. But the end result remains the same.

[@ProfessorChimpYT]

That was pretty good! Now do Tien vs Bleach next :P

[@SaraTBV]

@ProfessorChimpYT doesn't even get pass soul society arc

[@broggy52]

C'mon, don't torture tien like that

[@christophersekyere4183]

@@SaraTBV He does.

[@Goat_Reaper1]

​@@christophersekyere4183you a fool if you think he does

[@MrDj232]

You power scalers are nuts. Vegeta blows up 1 planet in filler and suddenly Yamcha is destroying stars at a fraction of the weakest power ever show destroying a planet in the manga.

[@Goat_Reaper1]

Dragonball powerscalers are some of the worst scalers/debaters on youtube

[@cart00nface40]

​@@Goat_Reaper1they work with what's they got. Blame Dragon Ball as a whole for it's inconsistencies

[@MrDj232]

@@cart00nface40 I fully understand that Dragon Ball has weird scaling. It's not something Toriyama ever really considered when making the series. But calling Yamcha multi-planet during the Saiyan saga is a leap that not even the filler supports.

[@Jsipki265]

@@MrDj232Except it does we see him fight the ginyu force and win. Even King Vegeta was able to destroy multiple planetary bodies.

[@MrDj232]

@@Jsipki265 Yamcha fought the Ginyu Force in the Saiyan saga? Before the Ginyu Force was ever introduced? King Vegeta was blowing up multiple planets with a single attack when his power level was only ~8,000?

[@dumdip]

Why is everyone forgetting that lord yamcha is holding back

[@hermitjayt]

The thing I don't like about cross over VS is when we translate the characters to equal ground. If we put yamancha in Naruto, then he has chakra. If we put Naruto in DBZ, he has ki. There's no way batman for example, wouldn't outpace Krillin if ki were possible in his universe.

[@samarendra109]

Bold of you to assume that a drangon ball z character will stop a transformation mid transformation. Infinity Tsukuyomi for sure hits!!

[@KidGoku-g4v]

haha lol. i dont think yamcha would follow these rules tbh. but only if hes dumb and cocky then yes. but other than that he one taps

[@Auron1Roxas2]

Yamcha is nowhere near multi planetary to dwarf star level. You’re using non canon feats from the anime that weren’t in the manga, they don’t apply. The androids were simply looking for someone with ki above the average human and they found yamcha. He loses to the Naruto verse.

[@laurielkami1100]

let's use canon feats then . He solo'd prisonners during the moro saga and they were at least as strong as the TOP ennemies of the ''low tier'' z fighters . In the anime he would be stronger than krillin who is on par with c18 and can defeat ssj2 adult gohan . In the manga he is at least as strong as ribrianne

[@Auron1Roxas2]

@@laurielkami1100 Beating a bunch of criminals who's power levels are never explained is no real big feat. The anime has a lot of filler so using that is already using non canon feats. Yamcha is weak clown, deal with it.

[@laurielkami1100]

@@Auron1Roxas2 we saw them fight againt other characters whom power levels are known like krillin or piccolo

[@AdrianMartinez-qy2ds]

Gero's projection of Goku's power was pretty low, in the japanese version of the manga he says that due to his age he didn't expect him to grow much stronger, so he very clearly didn't expect him to be above Frieza.

[@Mushruums]

So if Modern day Yamcha used a Time Machine to to back in time, he could redo all the fights and save the world multiple times

[@thechadlordboros]

Before watching i’ll say this, blood lusted current Yamcha should solo but to be honest with you on this one they may actually have a shot hear me out. In character Yamcha historically lets his guard down alot (Saibamen, Android 20, etc.) in Dragonball it’s been shown that getting attacked while having your guard down for some reason ignores durability (God Goku getting nearly one shot by a regular lazer which he could dodge as a kid) so basically if they all rush him and create enough of a diversión or distraction long enough for someone to use a hax technique like the Totsuka Blade for example to catch him off guard they may be able to pull it off.

[@postnutauthoritarian]

Yamcha doesn't need to be blood listed to take the verse. He is a martial artist he can throw down when serious (see Yamcha vs Tein)

[@HavokUnbound]

exactly.. lonk's hypothetical is basically if yamcha never dropped his guard and if you take all the filler seriously which is another stretch along with him being blood lusted and didn't outright destroy the planet.. what is yamcha going to do to counter limbo clones or attacks he can't see coming? this is a good debate but its really easy to give yamcha the win when you don't take into consideration all the hax abilities in the naruto verse.

[@SaraTBV]

Blood lusted anyone from naruto he gets genjutsu'd and soul snatched instantly

[@Goat_Reaper1]

Yall do realize blood lusted obito or something kamui him to death, he can't touch him and doesn't have a counter to genjutsu, gets stunned and kamui his head off Mortal combat style

[@thechadlordboros]

@@Goat_Reaper1 kamui can be outsped minato proved that and genjutsu aside from special cases like koto or infinite tsukuyomi can be countered by simply not looking them in the eyes.

[@ShangaelThunda222]

He literally blows up the entire planet. Not even a single character has the hands for this man. He could fight that entire universe simultaneously, with a hand tied behind his back, balancing on one leg lmfao.

[@maridiancrest243]

In Saiyan saga he loses to a Saibaman which is Raditz level. I don't think Raditz detroys planets. In character Yamcha would never destroy the planet or large portions of it either. Naruto and Sasuke and the ninja verse have hax that would easily fool him.

[@zedorian6547]

None of those hax would work on Yamcha though. Maybe the harem jutsu would work but thats about it.

[@Goat_Reaper1]

​@@zedorian6547prove they wouldn't work, yall just been saying certain things wouldn't work without proving why

[@luizkorynga]

@@maridiancrest243 Saiyan Saga Vegeta can destroy a planet, Freeza Saga Yamcha was already much stronger than him

[@ShangaelThunda222]

​@@maridiancrest243He said that he was using Yamcha at his peak in Super. Nullifies everything you're talking about.

[@onesmart229]

8:39 poison gas. Hanzo has a poison gas sack in his chest that is released win he dies. Also Yamcha couldn’t stop Dan’s possession jutsu, can’t avoid infinite Tsukuyomi, and he can’t any of Edo tensai. He just lacks the necessary kit.

[@ShinimagisFTW]

Same can be said if everyone in DB. If that's the case (which it is) then Narutoverse bodies everything in DB easily

[@boredomkiller99]

​​​@@ShinimagisFTWmost of it depends on whether Chakra and Ki are equalized. Without that Naruto verse is a lot weaker as genjutsu and hacks are their main advantages but most require the opponent having chakra. Infinite Tsukoyomi would likely not even work. However if equalized then you run the issue that DB verse have shown to be able to counter illusions or hacks whether by being stronger or knowledgeable such as Roshi escaping and turning illusions against others during the tournament of power. That and most genjutsu besides the top tiers are able to be counter with chakra such as Sakura being able to stay awake. So in reality it is hard to scale how well Naruto verse to DB verse because they run on different systems. Like DB in raw stats super no diffs but it gets questionable when it comes to how Naruto verse techniques would actually work outside the verse

[@Reuraku]

@@boredomkiller99 This is the thing with DB that I don't think most fans are willing to admit it it's all power a blunt instrument, outside of simply overwhelming an opponent with sheer force they don't have much and even when DB tries to put in something that isn't just a sledge hammer like Hit and his time abilities, the answer to overcoming it is MORE POWER meaning any sort of actual hacks demolishes them unless you give the DB characters the ultimate hacks of nothing works on them.

[@Harmonica821]

I take all the bullshit up until the Olibu fight. Olibu could've very much be holding back so Yamcha can spar with him, as hundreds of characters done so up to that point.

[@Aniissshhhh]

Genjutsu through Sharingan is casted through eye contact, no chakra manipulation is needed. Itachi’s Tskuyomi can cause time dilation upto 3333 years in Tsukuyomi dimension for just a second in real world, & death (both natural & killing) in Tsukuyomi dimension = death irl + His Susano has Yata mirror ( reflects all physical & spiritual energy) along with Totsuka blade. How’s most db characters, not just Yamcha beating that ? Power scaling is fine, but in 1v1, Hax becomes much more important !

[@SaraTBV]

Of course lonks wouldn't understand this, just look at the comments nobody understands this concept Dragonball fans are the people who don't understand rock paper scissors They'll think since rock beats scissors and scissors beats paper means rock beats paper

[@playlover9680]

@@SaraTBVOMW (on my way) to put planet buster in genjutsu( he has already busted my planet)

[@SaraTBV]

@@playlover9680 it was a genjutsu the whole time lol

[@ShinimagisFTW]

That's why everyone from DB gets bodied by the top 100 ninjas in the Narutoverse.

[@SomberSammy]

so we are using fake filler things to power scale characters now? none of these things actually happened in dbz

[@Goat_Reaper1]

It's the most idiotic crossverse video on KZbin

[@blabla-fw9ix]

I agree a 100% but he isn't wrong in the final verdict tho . Say what you will about Yamcha but he is anything but ,, weak ,, . His verse is just unfair for any human . He power level in the buu saga is still likely in the low millions so yeah he would absolutely blitz the Naruto verse unless he gets cocky and starts playing around .

[@ngawangchokden4351]

And he also using Naruto filler episodes so what your point

[@Goat_Reaper1]

​@@ngawangchokden4351no he didn't lol

[@Goat_Reaper1]

​@blabla-fw9ix literally nowhere near millions in PL when he barely as strong as saiyan saga goku in the androids arc

[@jacobjensen7704]

Solar System level is empirically correct for Kaguya level fighters, but it’s kinda weird to say “the ONLY things we saw are a star, moon, and planet, therefore solar system level.” Wouldn’t that make Solar System Level a lowball? When you think about Otsutsuki narratively, they’re trying to transcend to a higher level of reality like Shibai did. Given the verse has lots of dimensions and infinite timelines, that scales Shibai REALLY high. So if Otsutsuki are trying to reach that level, why are we saying they’re only solar system level? Wouldn’t it make sense for them to be WAY stronger? Not saying that you can’t think that Kaguya is Solar System level, but I think we should start thinking of that as a lowball, not as the max, nor even mid-ball.

[@somepvpguy69]

Yamacha is so strong that his failures still transcended Fiction, my Freind stubbed his toe and hit his shin and then fell over in the yamcha pose BY ACCIDENT.

[@manupyro2741]

Yamcha slaps Narutoverse.But...It's possible that he could fall if someone uses the sexy jutsu 😂

[@Goat_Reaper1]

Then that means he doesn't get through the verse, duh

[@ngawangchokden4351]

Yamcha destory that sh*t

[@Buster84]

Yamcha lost to a Saibaman because he was caught off guard, if he’s fighting over like 1 million people at the same time even if they’re fodder he is absolutely gonna be caught off guard Plus idk why Yamcha would know to destroy the moon? Like he presumably doesn’t know about the Sharingan so he’d just think the moon looked weird

[@Goat_Reaper1]

They gotta give yamcha whatever they could to try and get the win, it's not even yamcha anymore it's a made up character that only looks like yamcha, he has prior knowledge of every hax and ability in the verse for some reason, knows every counter to everything they have, is so fast based off non canon material and he's somehow solar system level cause why not right

[@luizkorynga]

but that's the point, if he's fighting so many opponents there's no way he can let his guard down and pay no attention if he's literally fighting every living being around him Yamcha would know if the moon was different (since 21 Tenkaichi he already knows how to solve the problem)

[@Goat_Reaper1]

@luizkorynga he wouldn't even know he in a genjutsu if someone like shisui kotoametsukami him, doesn't require eye contact and controls the brain directly to do whatever command you desire

[@blabla-fw9ix]

@@Goat_Reaper1 Shisui still has to be able to hit him with it , if Yamcha is taking this seriously he will be too fast for Shisui to catch and even if he hits him with it by some miracle there is no guarantee it would work on Yamcha . If that is how the logic with Shisui worked then all he would need to do is to use his ms ability and he beats anybody and we know that wouldn't happen , he has to be in close enough range and ,, hit ,, the target's area with the target remaining in that area for it to work .

[@Thatfan864]

@@blabla-fw9ixwhat’s yamcha doing against a kaguya who can simply dimension switch him and leave him there? And not to mention blitzing wouldn’t work for characters who can just get up and heal he has to completely atomize them. And then limbo clones who he can’t see or touch

[@Zeta.ta_]

King Piccolo probably can solo the naruto verse so Yamcha doesnt have problems

[@SaraTBV]

Get him pass part 1 itschi first

[@myduckisonqauck7227]

​@@SaraTBV How ISN'T he getting passed itachi?

[@SaraTBV]

@@myduckisonqauck7227 genjutsu

[@davidleonard6617]

​@SaraTBV need Chakra for any kind of genjutsu to work. no dragon ball character has Chakra so therefore genjutsu moot point

[@SaraTBV]

@davidleonard6617 I keep debunking this, mangekyo genjutsu gets injected directly into the brain via eye contact, unless you think king piccolo doesn't have a brain he getting genjutsu'd

[@YT_LeahStuff]

"Bijou bombs are planetary" **Shows picture of Bijou bombs barely making small dents into mountains** Why are Naruto fans like this... Bro could shoot a million bijou bombs and it wouldn't bust the planet. The net mass loss is zero. The mountains are just displaced. You can't bust a planet unless you break it apart completely.

[@Goat_Reaper1]

"Claims yamcha is solar system level" Kamehameha makes a smaller crater in the ground

[@joshuameraz2826]

Would there hax even work on ppl like yamcha?

[@Goat_Reaper1]

Duh why wouldn't it? Yamcha has never shown any hax resistance to anything that exist in naruto nor would he even know of them beforehand so how can he counter something he doesn't even know of?

[@Gorerend]

Itd be down to universe equalization to make their styles of energy interact with each other, but Genjetsus can be simply be overcome by recognizing the difference in chi/ki flow, which every Z Warrior has a level of mastery with Ki control, so would be able to dispel it by powering up, since many of the more magical effects of DBZ have been shown to be able to be suppressed if not outright removed by having a massive difference in power

[@SaraTBV]

@Gorerend this is such a non argument, are you not aware of specialist who are trained specifically to have mental resistance to genjutsu and even with that they've still been caught at some point or another if the genjutsu is just that potent, how long you think it's gonna take yamcha to do whatever he need to try to get out before he's killed while he's in it yall don't think about that huh? For instance itachi can make a picosecond feel like DECADES just think about that for a second

[@Gorerend]

@@SaraTBV i mean cool story, but law of averages has it at Yamcha annihilating the entire verse in less time than that, and again, with the power difference being so vast between the characters theres a good chance that the genjetsu cannot even stick due to the flow of chi/ki being too great that the disruptions that Genjutsu’s rely on arent able to have a sufficient enough impact. Low tiers can interact with low tiers, but can seldom do anything to high tiers, Naruto verse at best is continental unless ya want to do wankery than ill allow small planet at best. And Yamcha would unfortunately be akin to Superman to them

[@Goat_Reaper1]

@@Gorerend all you dragonball fans do is yap and make up feats for featless characters, just saying nothing but think you right

[@zetset8098]

Blindfolded Kid Naruto vs Goku MUI + UE Vegeta is super totally unfair if battle place is in Narutoverse. Goku and Vegeta don't have chakra, they have only ki and god ki so idk how they can survive in Narutoverse.

[@Bardocks_Fig_Collection]

Fu$# are you talking about

[@Bardocks_Fig_Collection]

Kid naruto isn't even rock level he wouldn't even be able to affect kid goku

[@zetset8098]

@@Bardocks_Fig_Collection And what level is MUI Goku? Whole ToP was just on the rock....

[@Bardocks_Fig_Collection]

@zetset8098 kid goku is moon level? With light speed+?

[@zetset8098]

@@Bardocks_Fig_Collection What level is MUI Goku? Can he destroy galaxy just by power uping? Can planets survive if he will fight with Moro or Gas? Kid Goku was Master Roshi level(more or less) and Master Roshi is not even city level maybe mountain level. Is Naruto can be mountain level if he can destroy mountain? If Roshi was fight with Jiren so maybe Naruto can also? It's your logic in pill. 💩

[@eddieboston6540]

Don't like the use of filler being used for yamcha who at best stopped training after the namak saga Yamcha at best is planetary and over 1000x mftl+ without filler Might guy has the eight gates which is a dozens of times multiplier up to 84x then a 100x for the 8th gate Might guy is light speed far weaker ninja can perform light speed attacks that get reacted to. Eight gate guy is 840x mftl Biju madara was going to kill guy and could have but guy got so much help to reach madara he just let guy hit him by the way this was one rinnegan madara So6p naruto performance is well above eight gate guy by doing more damage and blitzing madara putting him at 1680x mftl+ at least. Naruto can get far higher but i would have to guess which isn't right on my part unlike the other numbers i gave which can be found in the manga So TLDR yamcha at best is planetary and 1000x mftl+ vs naruto who is solar system and 1680x mftl+ low ball

[@zedorian6547]

Uh huh.

[@Thatfan864]

Also even if we give yamcha the benefit of the doubt and say he massively outsats he ignored major hax that yamcha simply has zero ways to counter.

[@ngawangchokden4351]

Lmao nice headcanon you make plus you’re saying miduto is solar system level when literally we didn’t even see Naruto destory solar system 😂😂

[@Thatfan864]

@@ngawangchokden4351 have we seen yamcha destroy the solar system? I think this argument is a brain dead argument but it can go both ways yk right?

[@SaraTBV]

@@Thatfan864 it's hilarious these dragonball fans will say "we never seen naruto do this" but turn around and say yamcha is solar system off of non canon material lmao

[@TheShockingShane]

You forget that Yamcha is ONLY that strong WHILE DEAD. His stamina runs out ALOT quicker while alive. While dead he has infinite stamina or ki or both. Which made him a helluva lot stronger. Also the DBZ universe power is so unbelievably inconsistent that you could take anything and make it into anything else.

[@GurrenPrime]

As somebody who’s more attached to Naruto than to DBZ, I have to say I overall agree with these takes. I have some issue with using filler arc stuff for Yamcha’s scaling, but I also lean towards lowballing when it comes to Kaguya (I feel like she maxes out at like, planet level tops; making her solar system level or higher just makes it kinda silly that she can be sealed inside a mere moon), so things kinda even out in the end. And that’s one of the big things I believe wrt power scaling: if you’re going to high ball one side, you should highball the other; if you lowball one side, you should lowball the other; if you midball (? Is that a term?) one side, you should midball the other. Any which way, I feel like Yamcha should win if you scale both sides fairly, and I think you did that here.

[@notcensored3917]

the "moon" literally nullifies her powers completely lmao I swear people cant read

[@GurrenPrime]

@@notcensored3917 alright so let’s take a look at it this way: two people who each have sub-planetary level feats and scaling at best by that point can casually nullify the powers of a solar system level enemy? That’s stupid. It makes so much more sense for Kaguya to merely be an incremental increase in power from what came before rather than Naruto and Sasuke getting a million to quintillion times multiplier.

[@unclesmugs4552]

Naruto can react to kaguyas chakra that can travel from earth to the end of the universe in an instant,this would be further backed up by the fact that characters literally scale to their chakra,and obito stated himself that the distance of her universes are to vast to reach back to his dimension.

[@mrwang420]

Yamcha "You little boy. What are you going to do to me?" Naruto: *Turns into Mythical Nine Tails.*

[@tintillor]

The only moment Yamcha gave up was when he refused Goku's invitation to train during the android saga.