How Trees Fall With Different Undercuts

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@FINNISHLUMBERJACK 5 ай бұрын

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@GijsbertNielsTerlaakPoot 9 ай бұрын

This is one of the shortest and at the same time best video’s about this subject I have ever seen. Brilliant!

@FINNISHLUMBERJACK 9 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@Temnoe_plamja 11 ай бұрын

Очень интересно, но нужно пояснить когда какой способ нужно применять

@black_gold_302 8 ай бұрын

Как его домкрат называется?

@josephphillips1777 Жыл бұрын

No example of a "Humboldt"

@johndicus123 10 ай бұрын

I do a little wood-cutting and a little video editing. Your falling techniques are so advanced I've never seen or heard of most of them. And your editing is superb! You don't waste our time, you get straight to the point showing us cut-lines. The multiple camera close-ups so well-edited makes me happy to subscribe just to see two subjects I enjoy learning more about.

@FINNISHLUMBERJACK 10 ай бұрын

Thank you very much John! And welcome to my channel!

@TrippUpthemountain 6 ай бұрын

Now if I only knew when to employ each technique. There must be a reason you would do it one way over another.

@jeremystone36 25 күн бұрын

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Kinda weird he liked your comment and then never explained…

@tr33m00nk 2 ай бұрын

So many potential or beginning 'barber-chairs' shown here! Look at the vertical hinge cracks forming! The vertical side slabbing is a good way to reveal what's happening at the hinge anyway.

@FINNISHLUMBERJACK Ай бұрын

That is a very important point: one’s safe tree might be another’s barberchair

@DavidMcCutcheon-i3c Жыл бұрын

In Finland do you always cut the bottom out of the wing cuts or is this just so that we can see the hinge wood breaking off better

@1australianbeacon 5 ай бұрын

Good question,, but of course no answers. Why do people put up videos and not monitor for the best questions, .

@FAYAleksandr 6 ай бұрын

Я ничего не понял в технике валки. Надо пояснять видео реза!

@ЭдуардСкачков Жыл бұрын

С маленьким подпилом- может сколоть ствол. Высота скола достигает 5-6 метров. Это очень опасно, может убить вальщика...

@сергейкузин-ъ6к Жыл бұрын

Что такое скол?трещина вдоль ствола?

@ЭдуардСкачков Жыл бұрын

@@сергейкузин-ъ6к ствол трескается за долю секунды, под напряжением собственного веса часть сколовшегося ствола резко прыгает назад и повисает на сколе оставшемся на пне на высоте 5-6 метров и потом падает слева или справа от подпила убежать от него сложно, у меня было такое пару раз в начале своей карьеры вальщика, и несколько раз видел как другие бегали одному переломало ноги...

@R1aUS Жыл бұрын

У нас вальщики не валили ни одним из способов, что показан в видео. Ну не было никогда вот этих многочисленных спилов по окружности ствола. Не было последующего вырывания волокон. Не было образования этих щёток из волокон в торце спиленного ствола. Смотрел видео и на ум приходила мысль, что всё, что вижу это какой-то брак в работе 😢

@NesyBred Жыл бұрын

@@R1aUS под (многочисленными запилами) я как понимаю вы имеете в виду боковые? ( это делают для более удобного контроля , что бы не перепилить). Щетки и торчащие волокна (как вы выразились) это есть не допил, который и должен быть, нельзя взять и перепилить , это не безопасно.

@R1aUS Жыл бұрын

@@NesyBred Что там нужно лучше увидеть? Они, что лобзиками пилят? Идиотские американские технологии. А рубанком почему не сглаживает бока? Одни идиоты делают, а другие, по всему миру, повторяют🤣🤣🤣

@AlenbtgMepstoen 10 ай бұрын

All these examples does not show at all what would happen in many different cases: different wood, rotten parts, leaning degree, side roots,... So, the choice of proper way of felling is based on particular case, but at the same time on estimation that will provide statistically the safest procedure.

@ErickvdK Жыл бұрын

Most people I have seen felling trees tend to get away from a tree that's starting to fall. This guy must be very good, watching a near barber chair up close...😮

@FINNISHLUMBERJACK Жыл бұрын

yes

@ErickvdK Жыл бұрын

@@FINNISHLUMBERJACK Haha, sir, I salute you!😉

@virpimu Жыл бұрын

He is very talented 💪👍 one of the best

@johnrobertson7583 Жыл бұрын

If you watch any of his other videos you see he cut the tree off and only leaves 6 foot stump to use in his demonstration’s.

@johnrobertson7583 Жыл бұрын

@erickdvdk its due to the type of tree…i think they are fir…absolutely the wrong thing to try with a US red or white oak…

@Timedelayedfuse 28 күн бұрын

Short, to the point, highly informative and no bozo flapping his lips for 20 minutes. Wonderful video.

@peterhvidberg1260 Жыл бұрын

Nice video. But when should the different cuts be used? I believe different conditions request one of those?

@mc.6540 Жыл бұрын

That's what I was wondering.... seems to be no ryme nor reason for the different cuts

@FINNISHLUMBERJACK Жыл бұрын

EXCELLENT QUESTION! I didn't think of that, this video was just to show them quickly to you Back to the drawing board...

@johnrobertson7583 Жыл бұрын

There is one face cut he did not show. That is known as the birds mouth. It is about 100° angle and it allows the hinge to retain control of the tree even after it hits the ground. It is much more ideal cut when dropping a tree down a hill.

@ebinmaine 8 ай бұрын

@@johnrobertson7583 I prefer using a down facing birds mouth most of the time. Better control.

@motorhead.uanoon4719 6 ай бұрын

За таку порчу ділового дерева, мене лісник вигнав би без оплати у три шиї

@EMD1492 Жыл бұрын

No trees were harmed in the making of this video

@YaxisX 11 ай бұрын

This video cuts through any confusing information and perfectly illustrates what beginners need to know for a minimum of basic knowledge. Nice job.

@arcadiaoutlaw 6 ай бұрын

Really cool seeing the fiber pulls on the different cuts

@twojsasiad8214 9 ай бұрын

Takie cienkie drzewa to można byle jak ścinać. Aby upadło

@pavelrebrov6427 11 ай бұрын

не подходит если направление падения не соответствует начальному наклону ствола. смотрел и содрогался. только домкрат.

@НиколайПивкин-щ4ь 11 ай бұрын

Кто мне объяснит зачем с боков срезать ствол?

@НиколайКрасин-щ3к 11 ай бұрын

Скорее для наглядности.

@theQueen_and_the 22 күн бұрын

Super)

@qstrian Жыл бұрын

Just what the doctor ordered, Finnish Lumberjack!

@FINNISHLUMBERJACK Жыл бұрын

Great!

@johnlumbers6139 8 ай бұрын

I hope you are raking the forest floor after all this work

@ahmadamin2808 5 ай бұрын

Mantap 👍

@mariuszrownicki6393 5 ай бұрын

Nie każde drzewo ścinamy tą samą metodą zależy to od ukształtowania terenu grubości pnia ale w zadnym nie pokazałeś chodźby nawet skrucenia zawiasy a to też ma duży wpływ na kontrolowany upadek ścinanego drzewa

@chadrides914 Жыл бұрын

Dang bro is working in soft wood with straight trees. Dream situation, yet still jacking? You rather carry that than a wedge and axe? Awesome demonstrations. God speed and be safe.

@joakimyliruusi 11 ай бұрын

I'm also from Finland and we use jacks often. Probably has to do with the size of the trees, quite small so the wedge bottoms out before enough lift is generated to fell the tree over. Or that is my theory at least.

@ya472 4 ай бұрын

Undercuts are only 20% of information required for tree falling. Tree lean, wind, limb factors, and influence of other trees is the 60% of the knowledge. 20% is all the other stuff like species, rot, insect damage, and other influences.

@jelenavanagiene9307 11 ай бұрын

O tu i sodinaj auginaj ?

@sydrider6023 12 сағат бұрын

Everybody saw how the wide hinge created a minor barber chair?

@behcetmutlu6599 8 ай бұрын

bilgileniyorum yeni teknikler öğreniyorum sayenizde teşekkürler

@FINNISHLUMBERJACK 7 ай бұрын

😃👍🏻👍🏻💪🏻

@fernandosimoes8836 5 ай бұрын

Qual o nome dessa ferramenta de manivela que você usou para empurrar

@FINNISHLUMBERJACK 4 ай бұрын

Stalpen

@davidwyby 10 ай бұрын

Awesome hinge footage! Lots to learn from there.

@юрийсаушев 7 ай бұрын

в своё время(90-е) работал в ЛЕСУ,(пришлось) приходилось валить -пила ХУСКВАРНА-242-,УРАЛ!!!!!!! и я вижу что тот новое для меня ,и что то вполне тривиальное.Однако иногда "извращения" этого ВАЛЬЩИКА!!! -банально ВРЕДНЫ для обычного человека

@banasaputra 11 ай бұрын

I like this..

@Freesaf 8 ай бұрын

What is the purpose of the side cuts on the tree?

@stefanmeyers2808 8 ай бұрын

20" diameter tree and an 18 bar

@peteybwoyee 5 ай бұрын

What tool are you using to help the tree go over?

@FINNISHLUMBERJACK 5 ай бұрын

It is a tree-jack "Stalpen"

@jamesantosca4005 7 ай бұрын

What's conspicuously missing is a brief explanation of when a given type of cut is warranted and in what manner the trees consequently fall. Only the rate of fall seems to vary. I've operated a tree service for ten years and I find this video to be rather useless, as it is. Kill the music and add a narration and then you'll have something.

@daveoseas 2 ай бұрын

Agree

@GrrrRu 6 ай бұрын

Не увидел разницы. Тем более деревья несложные, и так стоят под наклоном. Или автор использует домкрат.

@basukikasmiyanto4606 Жыл бұрын

Kalau pohon tegak lurus, mudah mengarahkan robohnya semau kita, tehnik itu bisa di terapkan, tapi kalau melawan arah, perlu skil tinggi dan alat bantu

@toomasmetsniit9649 8 ай бұрын

😊Hurraa ✌️ Good work ✌️ 🙋‍♂️

@FINNISHLUMBERJACK 8 ай бұрын

😃👍🏻👍🏻

@timothysullivan4130 11 ай бұрын

the SIZWHEEL is for VERY EXPERIENCED fallers. Very cool to watch it 👍👍

@StimLife 11 ай бұрын

Для вкея все вырезы были почти одинаковы

@user-tigrik 11 ай бұрын

Спасибо! Хотя я спилил нимало деревьев, очень интересно!😊

@FINNISHLUMBERJACK 11 ай бұрын

😃👍🏻👍🏻

@healingbymakingyousmile5780 9 ай бұрын

If you were using a machine to push alll these trees shown , the cuts are useless . Let us see you cut a tree where houses and power lines are around . Any boso can cut a tree in the forest .

@FINNISHLUMBERJACK 9 ай бұрын

And then you wouldn’t be a lumberjack in the first place

@healingbymakingyousmile5780 9 ай бұрын

@@FINNISHLUMBERJACK You would cry if you had to fall a tree in the middle of 2 houses

@stefanmeyers2808 8 ай бұрын

You are not healing me by making me smile.

@imalwaysheretomakeyousmile2151 8 ай бұрын

@@stefanmeyers2808you’re a grown as man , shutcho silly as up

@BayouBreezeTreeCare 7 ай бұрын

this is great! thank you guys

@FINNISHLUMBERJACK 7 ай бұрын

Thank you very much, and welcome to our channel!

@januspiekny1155 Жыл бұрын

Które były prawidłowe?

@pawelhener5338 Жыл бұрын

Conventional @2:09

@johnrobertson7583 Жыл бұрын

Very nice compilation. Thanks.. I have seen many felling videos , but no one has compared so many options before. The choice i noticed the biggest problem with was the very shallow facecut, which ifnsone on the wrong type of tree could cause a barberchair.

@MrKotBonifacy 10 ай бұрын

You may like to check out a video by Guilty of Treeson channel, with a rather shameless self-promoting title ;-) "WORLD'S BEST TREE FELLING TUTORIAL! Way more information than you ever wanted on how to fell a tree!" - where they show you eight different cuts and how a tree falls down on them. Here, in case you're interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pH2sdoysfbKGbrc And then there's "Buckin' Billy Ray Smith" channel, by a guy who knows how to fell a tree before he sees it ;-) (just kidding, but he's knowledge and experience is VERY impressive), and then there's this channel by August Hunicke - and gazillion of others. Hey, just sharing my knowledge about them it's up to you if you want to visit them. Cheers.

@kenbrown2808 9 ай бұрын

exactly what I was going to say.

@dgoodman1484 8 ай бұрын

It wasn’t the shallow face that almost caused it, it was the thick hinge. A thick hinge especially on a leaner or applying pressure to the tree will always do that. That’s part of the advantage of a shallow face, it keeps the tree upright a little longer than a deeper face and let’s you cut a proper backcut without worry. He just left it a little long as was probably pushing it over with some force. A shallow face is generally used on leaners also because it gives you more room to plunge cut your hinge on smaller trees while still leaving plenty of holding wood on the backside

@u.sonomabeach6528 8 ай бұрын

Truth. You don’t want to cut a deep face cut on a leaner because that can make the back cut angry and when you start the back cut it can pop your tart

@kenbrown2808 8 ай бұрын

@@u.sonomabeach6528 u sonomabeach, now I'm hungry for poptarts.

@Youshisu 3 ай бұрын

Why cutting sides of tree ?

@FINNISHLUMBERJACK 3 ай бұрын

In order to see the cut and the blade better

@Youshisu 3 ай бұрын

@@FINNISHLUMBERJACK oh ok, I though its for tree to fall easier in that direciton

@FINNISHLUMBERJACK Ай бұрын

In one of my recent videos I cut down an aspen without cleaning the sides. The Result was a 1,5m log rip in the starting from the roots and climbing on the trunk. Dangerous.

@Villervallan Жыл бұрын

Thanks for a nice video again! Is there a reson for not showing the benefits of practising the safe corner felling cut?

@FINNISHLUMBERJACK Жыл бұрын

The lenght of the video

@davidwyby 10 ай бұрын

What's that?

@Arlebrandt 4 ай бұрын

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@ИванПоломошнов-э1й 7 ай бұрын

Похоже Европа... В дошло ее мать

@ТимурТокранов-ю5с 11 ай бұрын

Дерево хочет жить..

@kotborka 6 ай бұрын

А ты думал,их выращивают,чтобы любоваться ими)?Всё в природе играет свою роль и задачу.

@nordsauvage 7 ай бұрын

Why do you trim the sides of your notch every time? Does it have to do with the length of your bar?

@benadams7425 6 ай бұрын

Shows the cut better for demonstration. Wouldn’t do it on the worksite

@mr.sergey293 5 ай бұрын

О_о

@HugoDerLustige 7 ай бұрын

Wo sind die Splintschnitte

@Raul28153 10 ай бұрын

you are cheating using a tool to push the trees over. This deprives the tree of the ability to fall pursuant to the cut method alone.

@kevinh4631 8 ай бұрын

Yup pretty descriptive,

@СергейПавлов-е3я 11 ай бұрын

Ничего сложного тут нет

@Pakam74-h8k 11 ай бұрын

А ещё покажите как правильно посадить дерево.

@FINNISHLUMBERJACK 11 ай бұрын

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@Camocountry1 10 ай бұрын

Your pushing the tree over with that pole! Let's see you not use that and use some wedges. This is stupid your pushing them over. 😂

@stefanmeyers2808 8 ай бұрын

Cry me a river.

@andrey76816 11 ай бұрын

Интересно, кто-нибудь когда то пробовал сидеть на верху ствола когда дерево пилили 😂

@razumposvyaweniy8247 10 ай бұрын

Да. Белки птицы. Спроси у них, как оно.😂

@andrey76816 10 ай бұрын

@@razumposvyaweniy8247 хорошо 🤣

@michelesquiro6145 Жыл бұрын

Merci beaucoup pour cette vidéo tellement utile pédagogique. Merci Michel

@alexeydudin3849 11 ай бұрын

Лесогуб!

@andrejshamin1452 Жыл бұрын

👍

@dunkelheit843 Жыл бұрын

You make the hinches way to thick.

@Villervallan Жыл бұрын

Thank's for showing!

@randallrun Жыл бұрын

And you can’t spell.

@aleksandarpavlovic66 Жыл бұрын

Занивљив видео

@jandec6800 Жыл бұрын

Jak dobry pilarz to 🌲 dobrze ścięte

@erniea4424 Жыл бұрын

I'm curious - will each of these methods repeat dependably virtually every time? It'a a great video, by the way...

@MateuszBPM Жыл бұрын

Good job . Perfect 👍👍😊😉

@andrewscrimger7548 Жыл бұрын

💪💪💪💪💪

@FINNISHLUMBERJACK Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir!

@СергейНемихин Жыл бұрын

Как положить дерево чтоб оно падало медленно,самый контролируемый спил

@Сергей-ч2ф6б Жыл бұрын

От породы зависит сильно! Большинство показанных способов для твёрдых пород очень опасны. А так, вторым показанным методом подпиливай медленно смотря за вершиной. Либо есть ещё метод вертикальных прорезов(где-то в сети есть но не помню как точно называется, суть в увеличении числа шарниров), но он на твёрдых породах тоже опасен.