Fire Amsterdam Central 13.01.2020.

[@ericwalsh3200]

If it's a broken gas main its safer to let it burn and try to protect the surrounding property until the gas can be turned off

[@enid0mom]

I don’t think they were trying to put the fire out. They were spaying water on the building and other exposed objects to keep them from having more damage as the gas is turned off.

[@hermanvankampen6047]

@@enid0mom A gas fire can never be put out through using water.You have to wait for the gas company who is closing the gas-main by turning off the gas-shutter.

[@enid0mom]

@@hermanvankampen6047 I specifically said the fire brigade was NOT trying to put out the fire but were putting water on exposures to prevent further damage to the building and prevent damage to exposures that can be set on fire by radiant heat or damaged by the heat. I have seen a natural gas leak burn with a meter of flood waters on it.

[@hermanvankampen6047]

@@enid0mom And so I added that the fire itself can only be extinguished by shutting off the gas pipeline from 2 sides by the gas company. These press, as it were, 2 "balloons" in the pipe, which close off the pipe. Gas is supplied from 2 sides through a pipe.

[@hermanvankampen6047]

@@enid0mom So you are also right.

[@Crazcompart]

It's a busted gas line... That can be clearly seen... First order of business is to find the nearest valve to shut the gas flow off, THEN you put out whatever is still burning afterwards!

[@1ytcommenter]

yes they busted it with an excavator.

[@richarddenny7336]

Strange how people are always complaining about how long it takes to attend fires but never put their brain into focus what could be the reason why . Maybe fire appliances from this area were on another shout and additional support had to be brought in from surrounding areas .If the traffic is anything like the UK ,the attendance times for these appliances would be longer .And with cutbacks in this country happening all the time our Brigades are facing the same problems even now with increased attendance times due to the lack of personnel and appliances.

[@margief1798]

LOL!! Did you copy your comment from a book? You have NO clue what it takes to put a fire out! And I am an actual Firefighter!!

[@heli-crewhgs5285]

@@margief1798 Why are you so hostile to a comment that is supportive of the fire brigade?

[@transilvanischervampir666]

auf jedenfall hatten die bauarbeiter mal ne kleine pause gehabt...

[@DaleDix]

The people on the tourist bus got value for their ticket that day

[@h.n.5884]

Close the Main - Ventil and the fire is out....

[@Thequerdenker]

Was mich hier verwundert ist, wie lange die Feuerwehr zur Anfahrt benötigt hat und bei 11:00 der Wasserstrahl. Kann mir das bitte einmal einer erklären?

[@weeardguy]

Jemand anders ein bisschen nach oben hat erklärt das es leider einige misinformation/miskommunikation gab von der Rettungsdienst: mehrere rettungswagen wirden nach das falsche ort abfahren, was einige verspätung gab. Ziemlich schnell entdeckte jemand das, und werden mehrere wagen von andere Feuerwachen angesteuert. Normalerweise hat es wagen von Wache Nico (IJtunnel) und Hendrik (Marnixstraat) zum ersten gegeben, nun wird es ein wagen von Wache Willem geben. Alles war wahrscheinlich noch immer innen limiten von 8 minuten. Ich hoffe das Sie dieser bericht verstehen, Deutsch ist seit lange vorher ;)

[@dazasc1621]

Was it a broken gas main ??

[@janosherke3687]

Daza Sc yes

[@obieknol5275]

De ladderwagen is van kazerne willem en komt van nabij het amstelstation waar ook de blusboot jan vd heijden ligt…aanrijroute is via de lange wibautstraat, dan rechts op mr visserplein voor kazerne nico langs en dan links de prins hendrikkade op….heeft een aardige aanrijroute dus was erg snel ter plaatse…netjes

[@RonA1961]

De Jan ligt al een tijdje bij de Oranjesluizen.

[@obieknol5275]

Dichtsbijzijnde kazerne is Nico bij de ingang vd ijtunnel….in principe een klein stukje over de prins hendrik kade…

[@robertborchert932]

Gas fire! Two problems, the continuous fuel, and the radiant heat. Note the vinyl window frames? For those making silly comments about the volume of water. Shatter the windows, and your problem grows exponentially.

[@dazasc1621]

Was it a broken gas main ?

[@dazasc1621]

@Luke Stephens 🤣😝👍

[@martijngoossens77]

Yes it was

[@paulwalsh548]

9mins before any fire trucks?

[@johnnz4375]

Possibly because everyone is filming instead of calling the fire brigade.

[@weeardguy]

Nope, most likely the first one already stopped at 5:30: you can hear the siren stop. Could very well be that there are trucks who got there earlier, but just can't be seen.

[@user-ie6jr4bg1w]

Its much worse in amsterdam, but the response time is good here. We can use the tram lanes and that helps a lot!

[@nokotho3840]

xD

[@ups6068]

i think the fire is still burning

[@davidwaterhouse1181]

Most gas pipe lines, have shut off valves.They are located in the streets.If they would have located the gas shut off valve,fire would be out.

[@minionmonkey4788]

You cant magically close a gas valve, even so the firedepartment has no tools to do this (they dont even know where the shuttoffs are located). To close the valves the company who owns the gaslines has to join in on the action. Considering its a small gas line (300mbar) closing it off should be fairly easy, if it is a distribtion line (which is what it looks like) closing it of isnt so easy because the distance between shutoff points is fairly large.

[@maiwald6293]

Gas ?

[@waltergeldof4923]

Gasbedrijf bellen en meteen de gaskraan afsluiten !!! Zo schiet de brandweer niet op met het blussen .

[@FD-E-St-Fire]

Natural gas main line fire Someone from the construction company probably hit it with a piece of equipment I’m surprised any of the adjacent rooms didn’t catch fire due to the convection heat so close to the windows

[@northlincsfox243]

I don’t understand why people have to constantly be reminded to move back. The Police have put a cordon in with a view to saving lives, yet they have to keep moving people back. I don’t know what these people were thinking, and why are those workmen close to the fire?

[@janosherke3687]

Paul Kania It’s a good question

[@northlincsfox243]

János Herke A question to which there is no answer Ha! Ha! 😀

[@maxvandenberg955]

Maybe because they wanted more room for the emergency services if necessary? Or they were afraid of an explosion, I mean after all a gas pipe broke so... yeah...

[@janvanholten7592]

They placed a line and still were moving the people backwards. Don't come with this "save lives" bullshit. They were soon on a save distance and providing the Firemen more then enough space. Yes, I have plenty experience with 25 years!

[@northlincsfox243]

@@janvanholten7592 What’s that about bullshit, squire? I worked in emergency services that provided cordons.

[@olegdmitriev6854]

Gas ...

[@johans4112]

Interesting to see it takes only three minutes for all kind of police and other people to show up and push people away from the fire but in the mean time this burns almost 10 minutes before the first fire engine shows up. Remember: this is downtown. Amsterdam…

[@tapio525]

Police is always on the move, fire engines are in station ..

[@TanksInSpace_]

Nonsense, You can here the sirene from the first fire engine arriving at 5:30 ... but they are on the left side out of view .. behind those small wooden structures .. and 30 seconds later you hear another one.

[@jimpettigrew4340]

Weird color of flames. Most fires burn orange in color not yellow and white. Is the fuel chemicals or gas?

[@jordicity]

They were digging at a construction site, the digger broke the gas main, so it was a natural gas fire

[@allanweaverling730]

Oh those horrible siren!

[@kevinhanz4894]

A broken natural gas line

[@robjoost7617]

at5 rob

[@newtonmoreria4915]

Bombeiros vieram de outro País!

[@moviemagg]

I've got more power in my garden hose then theses guys had in their fire hose's....

[@ibelieveyou2066]

Hilarious.Fire in street/outside building,by the time anyone,even noticed,building was damaged.You would like to think,they would react,much quicker.It is now taking insurance companies,months,or years,to cover the cost,for needless damage.

[@black_dead_rose]

What's up with your typing

[@ibelieveyou2066]

@@black_dead_rose What,do some words,show blue?

[@holgerrauschenberg3420]

@@ibelieveyou2066 Use a space behind the point in th end of a sentence. If you do not, it will be interpreted like a link to a website. This is an example without space.It will be interpreted as a link. This is an example with a space. It won't be a link.

[@ibelieveyou2066]

@@holgerrauschenberg3420 Did not know that.Thanks for the info.

[@margief1798]

Grow up! Your comment is ridiculous!! You obviously have NO clue about firefighting or being a firefighter!! I am an actual firefighter! Know what you are talking about before you comment, makes you look ignorant!

[@Atze_S._8392]

Even if the one burst gas line is so the from the fire who is still very slow With us there are at least 10 hoses in use and what I see so 1 to a maximum of 2 tired strale of water ? Honestly, that's not how you extinguish gas fires. I have already had the fire after 20 min and the gas turned off a few moments later

[@weeardguy]

You must be joking: you don't extinguish a fire in a gas mains... You only protect the surroundings if surrounding structures are at risk. Extinguishing a gas mains fire is just impossible as it will continue to burn as long as there is gas in the pipes. The first truck is at scene around 5:30: the siren can be heard before and stops. The fact there's not a huge amount of water being dumped on it most likely has to do with the building: they want to be absolutely sure it's clear inside: as you can see, the window frames at some point catch fire as well. If the windows burst (and I admire how well those windows put up), you've got a rapidly expanding problem and since quite a lot of the historical inner center of Amsterdam has structures that contain a lot of wood, they want to make absolutely sure their actions won't make it far worse. It could also be the first attack was already present inside the building way before we could see evidence of it.

[@bruceworldwide7608]

extremly slow.....in germany the firefighters are way faster

[@josefweiberg2518]

In Germany, 20 vehicles would be on site in a maximum of 8 minutes

[@LukeBeens]

They were on scene in 7 minutes, eventhough they weren't alarmed right. They were dispatched to the wrong hotel, 6 kilometers further. As soon as they find out it was wrong they dispatched more fire trucks. Because of the mixup the first trucks on scene were from Fire station Willem (You can see the first ladder from Willem). Normally the fire stations from Nico and Hendrik would respond as first.

[@christianplatzbecker1784]

The problem no 2 is the work area from the underground Tram.

[@mr.polemikus4933]

That doesn’t make you nicer, if you can ever be nice

[@robertnewman5556]

It took those fire trucks too long to get there. They should have been there between six and eight mintes.

[@josefweiberg2518]

@@robertnewman5556 Eight mint 🥺 You mean after eight.

[@margief1798]

Extremely slow response to get water on that fire!

[@homar2270]

non e auto ma gas lol

[@aaronald5287]

Duurt wel erg lang voordat een brandweerwagen er is voor dezelfde geldt staat het hele gebouw inlichten laaie

[@Vervelio01]

Voor een brand in hartje Amsterdam vind ik 10 minuten voor de eerste blussing ook nogal lang. Maximum wettelijke aanrijtijd voor brandweer is trouwens 8 minuten. Zou je in een stad als Amsterdam met ...tig kazernes gemakkelijk moeten kunnen halen

[@jordicity]

Ze waren verkeerd gealarmeerd, de alarmering was bij een hotel 6km verderop. er zijn meerdere wagens gealarmeerd toen ze het doorkregen dat ze bij het verkeerde hotel stonden, daarom dat eerst de ladder van Willem arriveert. Normaal in dat deel van de stad word Nico en Hendrik als eerste gealarmeerd, maar omdat het mis gegaan is duurde het zo lang. Bij het andere hotel waren ze overigens wel binnen 7 minuten ter plaatse

[@Vervelio01]

@@jordicity Oei, ja dat kan een keer gebeuren idd.

[@stormvogel6]

@@jordicity Best wel een snelle aanrijtijd ondanks die misser..knap, zeker in druk Amsterdam....TOP WERK!!!!

[@weeardguy]

@@jordicity Dat niet alleen, je hoort duidelijk rond 5:30 sirenes van een wagen die stopt: dat is nog steeds binnen aanrijtijd. En ja, hoe vaak gebeurt het wel niet dat de beller zelf geen idee heeft van z'n locatie? Een fout is menselijk, al zijn de gevolgen soms groot.

[@GrillerRohde]

I don´t wanna shit on the fire department because it´s hard to judge from just this video but it seems like they took forever to arive on the scene and get water to the fire. It also weird that we only see 2 ladder trucks coming but they later have water hoses and start the fight the fire like they split of or different fire stations were alarmed. Idk just feels weird and uncoordinated.

[@terryadavis3458]

Thats Amsterdam, normally fire department are there in 5-10minutes

[@weeardguy]

Unfortunately, they were alarmed to the wrong hotel (6 km further away). The mistake quickly surfaced, which is why a ladder from station Willem attended first, where Hendrik and Nico would be the usual stations to arrive first as they are both about 1,5 km's away from this place.

[@andrekootstra4211]

laat maar afbranden die stad is toch geen Amsterdam meer maar een groot yuppen fietspad

[@brucebellinger9783]

I guess that it is more important in the Netherlands to put up public barriers than fight the fire. Is response time measured in hours or days?

[@TanksInSpace_]

Nonsense, You can here the sirene from the first fire engine arriving at 5:30 ... but they are on the left side out of view .. and 30 seconds later you hear another one.

[@Doc_Rainbow]

at the beginning of the Video the Police was allready on scene so the fire service was allarmed before the video started... after 7 Minutes there was still no Truck in sight....after 10 Minutes the first ladder Truck arrives if the building whould be on fire this would be a nightmare... i mean how long is your response time in a City? if this was in a little village i would understand it but here? in germany we got a Law that Emergency Services needs to be on scene in XXX of minutes it differs a bit from State to State in Northrhine Westphalia its 10 Minutes

[@atraindriver]

In Britain the rules are on scene in 8 minutes for life threatening emergencies, but the reality is that you would be lucky in a big city if more than one unit arrived within 15 minutes. And it can be a lot longer, even in a big city: if you call for an emergency ambulance for a serious but not immediately life-threatening injury (such as a broken bone or dislocation) it's not unusual to be told that you will have to wait 2 hours or even more.

[@Doc_Rainbow]

@@atraindriver thats shocking! ill watched some BBC Ambulance Episodes and your Ambulance service is way overwelmed! in Düsseldorf Germany (where i live) you will get help after 8-10 Minutes, but the help cant be just an Amulance it can also be a First Responder Unit from the Fire Department, because all Firefighters here are also EMTs/Medics

[@atraindriver]

@@Doc_Rainbow Firefighters respond here too, in some areas, but along with the police and the ambulance they're overwhelmed. Too many people here fell for the lie that taxes can be cut without impacting public services, and now the chickens have come home to roost.

[@Doc_Rainbow]

​@@atraindriver true, i mean we got also some "Regular" callers which know your Ambulance crew by name xD but alone from the BBC Show you got like 20% of callers which just call the Ambulance service for a little chat...i hope your gov. will do something about that mate because there will be deads because of these kind of people...

[@atraindriver]

@@Doc_Rainbow It's worth remembering that the BBC series cherry-picks things which makes the ambulance service look good, you can be sure that the ambulance service themselves are sending the crews-with-TV-people on 'media positive' calls, and I can absolutely guarantee you that those who are calling for a "little chat" wouldn't normally get anything other than a call-back by phone and possibly a referral to their GP (family doctor). Or if an ambulance was despatched, it would be days later - given that they're happily filming calls where the patient has been waiting 12 hours for an ambulance, you can bet that normally those calls would have just been allowed to fade away.

[@brianog5267]

My God those sirens on those Tonka toy fire engines are insanely annoying

[@robgrootveld9609]

Wait till the pass you when you're waiting for them and not heaving anything in you ears.

[@dennisbellinger333]

Really sorry assed response time!

[@juliaclark7418]

Fire brigade took to long to get there.

[@yousrich46]

Cant blame them if you look at all the constructions going on🤷‍♂️

[@maxvandenberg955]

The first fire engine on scene was within 7 minutes. I think that is their response time.

[@killian.0205]

They are faster then some responses in nyc

[@baukedegroot1063]

@@yousrich46 We need to be on scene whitin 15 minutes

[@LukeBeens]

​@@yousrich46 They were on scene in 7 minutes, eventhough they weren't alarmed right. They were dispatched to the wrong hotel, 6 kilometers further. As soon as they find out it was wrong they dispatched more fire trucks. Because of the mixup the first trucks on scene were from Fire station Willem (You can see the first ladder from Willem). Normally the fire stations from Nico and Hendrik would respond as first.

[@zonacrocone4804]

Congratulations. This fire department deserves the title "slowest fire department in the universe." Incredible.

[@hermanvankampen6047]

Maybe they had more accidents in the same moment? Can be..... It to expensive to have one firefighter on one burger citizen......Maybe you where there when this happened?? And you see here only one camera point.You can not see here everything around the building.

[@minionmonkey4788]

right... says someone who clearly has zero clue about firedepartments. they dont magically appear out of thin air you know.. Considering they need atleast 1 minut to get in the truck, then drive trough a very dense city which has loads of roadworks 10 minuts isnt bad at all. Even so, that is considering the nearest firedepartment went to this incident, they might aswell be on the opposite site of the city on a different incident. The dutch saying of "schoenmaker blijf bij uw leest" applies to your comment.

[@hermanvankampen6047]

@@minionmonkey4788 So you were there on the moment of this incident? And you know what every fire station in Amsterdam was doing at this moment?? Amsterdam has also 750000 inhabitants (or something more,I do note exactly know)......And I know that this CAN happen.I was a firefighter in Oldenzaal.Also during the first hours of the vuurwerkramp in Enschede at 13.May 2000.The first hours whe drove to some other incidents with some other fire departments in Enschede while most Fire fighters went to the fireworkings company.And almost no one outside the fire departments in Twente know this. Maybe read in this therat the reaction from Luke Beens??

[@hermanvankampen6047]

@@minionmonkey4788 "says someone who clearly has zero clue about firedepartments" ......Pffffff........ look in the mirror......

[@zonacrocone4804]

@@minionmonkey4788 Clearly! 26 years of firefighting. Probably more than you can show. :) :) :)

[@ratmousebastard]

holy crap I had to fast forward to where the Fire crews finally show up.... Maybe they be smokin' too much green back at the Fire House

[@TanksInSpace_]

You can here the sirene from the first fire crew arriving at 5:30 ... but they are on the left side out of view .. behind those small wooden structures .. and 30 seconds later you hear another one.

[@janvanholten7592]

Mijn god, hoe ver wilde de politie de mensen bij het incident vandaan hebben? Misschien volgende keer gelijk de hele stad ontruimen? Uiteraard met als smoes veiligheid natuurlijk. Toch maar eens wat aandacht aan gaan geven in de opleiding en dan als cursusleider een nuchtere brandweerman. Voorheen was dit niet of nauwelijks een onderdeel van....

[@weeardguy]

Jij weet helemaal niet wat zij horen in het radioverkeer: je kan duidelijk zien dat de kozijnen op een gegeven moment ook vlam vatten (en het verbaast me dat de ramen het zo lang uitgehouden hebben). Als dat ze medegedeeld wordt, weet de brandweer ook wel hoe laat het is: de verhalen van Hotel Polen zijn legio en wil men echt voorkomen. Maar dan hebben de hulpdiensten wel de ruimte nodig. Gelet op de nogal drukke plek die dit is, niet zo'n rare wens.

[@user-gj9hx5rl8p]

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