Fire Engines at Cheshire Fire and Rescue Service (2017)

An in depth look at how the new appliances have been set up for Cheshire Fire and Rescue Service. Fleet Services Manager Phill Cooper talks through the new technologies available to firefighters and how the appliances differ from before.

[@underbaked8689]

Changed quite a bit since my first day of service 28/8/1970. I still think the steel alloy wheeled escape was a more stable ladder than the whippy 135 ladder. But those wheeled escapes must have cost a fortune hence they were replaced! I also vividly remember getting a bollocking by my Guv for crunching every gear change in the crash-gear-box on a shout but on the way back every change was as sweet as a nut! Those were the good old days!

[@DByers-ci5kr]

I love it when he said Hooligan Bars. 😆

[@Sarge084]

I thought the ladders looked lighter. I was watching a Hereford & Worcester video of a ladder drill and I was amazed at how much it flexed. The ladders we used back in the 70's were more robust, and quite a bit heavier I'm sure!

[@CalMusicCovers]

Looks great! Love the Scanias :D

[@CalMusicCovers]

The Dennis Sabre's great. I'm just a fan of Scania trucks overall, not just fire appliances :D

[@CalMusicCovers]

Where I'm at we have a Scania WL, Dennis Sabre XL & ERF SS263 Hydraulic Platform. Love using them. Sad to hear the Sabres are going though

[@bluelineairsoftesc4975]

Leo Bruce my station in Essex just got a new 280

[@bluelineairsoftesc4975]

Leo Bruce local station is clacton

[@Horizon301.]

Leo Bruce why are the Dennis sabres so good and what’s the difference between the scanias and so Dennis not make them anymore? I’m new to this tuff so any help would be appreciated

[@elwolf8536]

I like the dinner tray up front

[@danielfowles-ti1oe]

keep safe nice weekend

[@tubodradek]

Yuh-huh, good job bros!

[@0zzyninja]

has the e-cab and digital pump panel made it easier for operations? Or does it break a lot more often?

[@steuk6510]

There so clever who designs the new firefighting equipment and fire engines

[@EnidAgnusDei]

May I ask why you select the 320 bhp option? yes it has more torque so are they much better on hills and at setting off, and is there much difference cost wise between the 320 and 280?.

[@isaaccapes9921]

Red Shutter Photography because of all the kit we selected the p320 as it’s quicker, bigger and we got given a great deal on the p320

[@Sarge084]

Are lockers still set out to Home Office standard? The idea being that any firefighter can go to any appliance and know exactly where to find the item he or she is looking for!

[@alanpowell2166]

When did the halligan tool get renamed hooligan?

[@dejanbrice8774]

I've only ever called it the hooly bar, same as most of the guys I know. Must be a regional thing?

[@CymruEmergencyResponder]

It’s always been a hooligan bar in the U.K.

[@ryanhobbs3362]

Haha, I noticed that too. I may have to call ours that from now on.

[@firey9998]

It was invented by chief halligan FDNY. That’s why it’s called “halligan” the uk called it a hooligan tool/bar, I think it got lost in translation.

[@jonthecont]

that hose reel seams an awkward place to make up. rear lower locker much better

[@cm93431]

and yet the dennis sabre next to it is still a better machine than scania and volvo put together

[@tjd4982]

Dennis sabre and Rs are solid machines but scanias are good aswell

[@billymallon7342]

@@tjd4982 will they beat Dennis when I think fire engine I think Dennis

[@evelyncaraher5039]

Dennis sabre is an old fire engine volvo and scania is better

[@tjd4982]

barty 4&6 yeah they are definitely faster than the Dennis but the Dennis is noisy in the cab but I think Dennis fire engines are brilliant but there part of history now 👍🇬🇧

[@Zackislivid]

no they don't sabers are old and clumsy they were good back in the early 1990s and 2000s but now adays no there out dated

[@williamPearcewill]

transvend is just a civilian version of the kettle in army tanks

[@kegymorgan3278]

Stowed or stored

[@Samara.Weaving]

Has it got any storage though?

[@nickdennis6953]

Samara Weaving yea it has but not a lot most of it will be filled with small gear and crew ppe

[@steuk6510]

It should have. Enough room it will have begin specaily designed

[@CTJ893]

How long is the hose pipe

[@isaaccapes9921]

CTJ893 66 meters

[@TTE441]

- USB charging points for phones lol

[@Gencturk92]

what's wrong with that ? there humans aswell, they can have phones.

[@xXTR4IRSOF7]

not on the job

[@Gencturk92]

well there not using it while on emergency calls are they ? they do have break times just like us.

[@EnjoyFirefighting]

I take mine with me on the job, and in case it's necessary I can simply call the dispatch center, a colleague, my boss with my phone .. what's wrong with that

[@Gencturk92]

that's ok, you just cant use it for social networking or friends.

[@mikewalker9238]

Have the Unions let there members drive it yet, or is it still sat in the workshop.

[@leadingfiremancross7211]

If the Union hasn’t approved it, perhaps the employer hasn’t consulted on it properly

[@CTJ893]

Do they have a radio so you can listen to music

[@Gencturk92]

dude, who listens to music when your on your way to emergency ?

[@EnjoyFirefighting]

That would be me, and most crews at my station, no matter of we're going to the scene or back to the station

[@CTJ893]

EnjoyFirefighting - International Emergency Response Videos as

[@tjd4982]

Yes they do

[@Cypher791]

What it has is precisely fuck all at the moment ~,~

[@scottfoster2487]

No preconnect attack lines ,so 18000's lol

[@CymruEmergencyResponder]

Scott Foster the hose reel is preconnect!

[@bradleywilliams5519]

Cheshire fire have the better appliances!! North Wales need to take notes😂😜

[@EnidAgnusDei]

Volvo are a joke! often off the run bad electrics they are rubbish.

[@themodfather1252]

John Johnstone I beg to differ, although I think it depends on personal taste! Still, the fact is north Wales has had new pumps practically identical to these scania's for about 2 years now. Also appliance equipment, PPE and station facilities are all newer and of better quality in north Wales. However, I admit that Cheshire are a lot more community based - they interact with the public through things like station open days, courses such as biker down, visiting schools, cadets, princes trust award etc. Cheshire are far more a community fire service - north Wales don't even have station open days!

[@bradleywilliams5519]

Everything Mechanical north Wales have open days. Cadets/YAF, a lot of school visits and have a department that supports communities. Although Cheshire has done a lot of community work, NW is more or less the same.

[@EnidAgnusDei]

We got a batch of 4 of the Volvo fle and 3 out of the 4 were off the run within the week and all on the same day, it seems if anything the newer ones are worse, the electrics are a joke and Volvo blame the body builder and visa virsa! Mind you had 4 MAN 4x4 appliances and within a week 2 had small electrical fires..... we also lost a 60 plate Volvo it caught fire whilst on station, this has also happened in other older Volvo appliances. Not had an open day around here in years now ..... Best wishes Everything.

[@themodfather1252]

John Johnstone do you mean Volvo FL6's? The newer ones are FL E-Pumps, and also the north Wales ALP's are all Volvo FL10's. The MAN appliances are a joke. They are a death trap and that's why they are used as driver training pumps in NWFRS. What station are you based at? Wrexham?

[@Aerialguy11]

What is a TRANSVEND?

[@isaaccapes9921]

Basically a water heater/ kettle 👍

[@underbaked8689]

It's a female back to back instantaneous coupling!

[@nickdennis6953]

We have a scania 280 on station and it’s the worst thing they ever give us I’ll have a Dennis any day didn’t get half the problems with the Dennis as we do with the scania it’s rubbish in the wet and it’s to fat to fit down some of the small roads here in Cambridge

[@tjd4982]

my dad is a firefighter in Cambridgeshire and he drove his friend Dennis firengine and he says it’s brilliant and he drives the Scania P280 light pump and he likes it

[@smithylvs]

Has it gone any stowage? 😂

[@karlrogers1355]

Lol

[@djghosted7072]

God he says stowage a lot

[@staffoffice]

Wait...wait.. you have a fucking food heater and the driver has his own on board locker to store his teas and coffees? Just fucking wow.... Digital touch screen pump control panel is a horrible idea, when you have guys on the line and it fails can you go back to manual pump operations? Looks like no.

[@gsmith2000994]

There is manual control

[@GregsMowing]

Stowage. You mean storage 😂

[@Matty_98]

same thing

[@Horizon301.]

Stowage is a word widely used. Like stowage compartment.

[@johnsullivan1307]

Like a consumer unit and fuse box.

[@simonsupersi2225]

why land depature and a fire engine thats stupid.

[@simonsupersi2225]

lane

[@tomjohnson9730]

Simon supers